Chicago
Recent BBFS Review
DirtyUncleJoe
posted
1 / 35
morecoffee
posted
7 / 35
I'm simply telling you what I have personally heard from gentlemen. I agree that the term is interpreted by most to mean certain things are on the menu, but others have expressed to me that they consider someone GFE if she is a personable, non-mechanical, non-clock-watcher type. Feel free to define it as you will; I'm just trying to see it from every possible perspective. 
True story: One person told me to my face that he wouldn't consider me GFE when all the requisite menu items that the term implies were definitely on offer. When questioned, he explained that to him a GFE means that the two people magically click and have a perfectly harmonious experience. LMAO. Yeah, good luck getting that every time you meet a new lady
True story: One person told me to my face that he wouldn't consider me GFE when all the requisite menu items that the term implies were definitely on offer. When questioned, he explained that to him a GFE means that the two people magically click and have a perfectly harmonious experience. LMAO. Yeah, good luck getting that every time you meet a new lady
What is the difference between full service and GFE? In this market, you can get full service as defined as no or little kissing and sex, probably just one pop for $$ or less at many MP type places. Why would anyone pay double that for that service? Because the lady is a bit better looking then the average provider? And that comes with attitude? Guys repeating that service are either right down the street, or they are unaware of all the other options. I also bet these ladies are newbie friendly because they aren't getting many repeaters.
As I am typically considered to be GFE, and do not subscribe to the "this service=such-and-such price-point" mentality I'm being truly objective on this topic.
I'm simply telling you what I have personally heard from gentlemen.
I agree that the term is interpreted by most to mean certain things are on the menu, but others have expressed to me that they consider someone GFE if she is a personable, non-mechanical, non-clock-watcher type.
Feel free to define it as you will; I'm just trying to see it from every possible perspective.
True story: One person told me to my face that he wouldn't consider me GFE when all the requisite menu items that the term implies were definitely on offer. When questioned, he explained that to him a GFE means that the two people magically click and have a perfectly harmonious experience. LMAO. Yeah, good luck getting that every time you meet a new lady.
I'm simply telling you what I have personally heard from gentlemen.
I agree that the term is interpreted by most to mean certain things are on the menu, but others have expressed to me that they consider someone GFE if she is a personable, non-mechanical, non-clock-watcher type.
Feel free to define it as you will; I'm just trying to see it from every possible perspective.
True story: One person told me to my face that he wouldn't consider me GFE when all the requisite menu items that the term implies were definitely on offer. When questioned, he explained that to him a GFE means that the two people magically click and have a perfectly harmonious experience. LMAO. Yeah, good luck getting that every time you meet a new lady.
MrRate
posted
20 / 35
Now while every provider owns their own body and should set their own rules, hobbyists should be informed of those rules so that expectations are met on both sides. I have found that most providers who claim GFE are using it as a marketing ploy. There are exceptions, but let's not be naïve here. No one should frown on other people's choices, but I agree with all of the comments here that call out how providers shortchange hobbyists' expectations by misusing the GFE term. High priced providers should especially call themselves safe GFE if they are not providing BBBJ in my humble opinion. I can't imagine any high priced provider being worth it if not providing bbbj. Ooooops, I said it. Let's see who flies off their meds on that one!
I can't imagine any high priced provider being worth it if not providing bbbj. Ooooops, I said it. Let's see who flies off their meds on that one!
GFE means and trust me when I came into the industry this was a new concept so was in part a party to helping form what in the heck it meant.
It means that one can expect to have an experience akin to that one might have with his Girl Friend(not wife, covered FS is certainly implied since many real life couples use that form of BC not wishing to start a family prematurely). A guest would expect his girlfriend to french kiss if not deep french kiss, offer cunnilingus, and preform BBBJ(with or without the CIM depends on the lady).
When is the last time a guy or girl were with their BF/GF and a cover was introduced before oral? NEVER because in a relationship the lady would just move onto something else rather then cover it up if she didn't want uncovered dick in her mouth. When is the last time that a guy was turned down by his GF if he wanted to go downtown? Again, this rarely happens in a relationship, after married sure but before not so much. And kissing, the big one! When is the last time you were even just dating someone and didn't give them a french?
This is common sense, if you do not offer the same services a GF does then you can't lay claim to GFE. Many tem it however they want but it is just a session until those services are added, then it becomes a GFE appt.
The being friendly, conversational, and putting the gentleman at ease trying to truely make a connection with them is a given no matter what type of session you are doing with a guest like Massage and Non-GFE.
On a side note PSE is an attitude as well as rapid fire progression and added services that go above and beyond what a normal woman might do on a regular basis. Normally refers to Grecian cruises and many fetishes.
As it happens, your definition is what it means to me too, although I prefer not to label myself as such in my advertising. And it is very similar to the definition found in Wikipedia. Who knew? LOL! It means that one can expect to have an experience akin to that one might have with his Girl Friend(not wife, covered FS is certainly implied since many real life couples use that form of BC not wishing to start a family prematurely). A guest would expect his girlfriend to french kiss if not deep french kiss, offer cunnilingus, and preform BBBJ(with or without the CIM depends on the lady).
When is the last time a guy or girl were with their BF/GF and a cover was introduced before oral? NEVER because in a relationship the lady would just move onto something else rather then cover it up if she didn't want uncovered dick in her mouth. When is the last time that a guy was turned down by his GF if he wanted to go downtown? Again, this rarely happens in a relationship, after married sure but before not so much. And kissing, the big one! When is the last time you were even just dating someone and didn't give them a french?
This is common sense, if you do not offer the same services a GF does then you can't lay claim to GFE. Many tem it however they want but it is just a session until those services are added, then it becomes a GFE appt.
The being friendly, conversational, and putting the gentleman at ease trying to truely make a connection with them is a given no matter what type of session you are doing with a guest like Massage and Non-GFE.
On a side note PSE is an attitude as well as rapid fire progression and added services that go above and beyond what a normal woman might do on a regular basis. Normally refers to Grecian cruises and many fetishes.
But you cannot ignore the fact that others have their own interpretation. They do. Not only other ladies but men too. If "there can be only one" (and if you get that quote, you're my kind of people! lol) then perhaps there needs to be an online manual to instruct everyone so they don't mistakenly form their own ideas. j/k xoxo Debbie
A term which most people think assert means one thing and one thing only, can still be interpreted differently.
Example: I consider myself to be tall, because I am taller than the current average height for women in this country. But just this week I've heard both, "Wow you really are tall!" AND "Oh, you're not really tall!" ......so even something simple can have different meanings.
Most people here may want there to be one concrete definition of "Girlfriend Experience" (and that would make things a lot easier) but unfortunately GFE does mean different things to different people. How they come up with these ideas (and they run the gamut from what I personally consider a bit impersonal to what many define as a PSE) is a mystery.... likely just based upon their own preferences and desires. It doesn't matter how or why others define it differently than what is popularly accepted here... what matters is that there ARE other definitions out there. So when a lady calls herself GFE, although her services may not match up with the common definition, perhaps she truly defines GFE as something else. Or perhaps she really is knowingly lying. To say that any lady calling herself GFE when she does not meet the popular expectations of such is obviously lying is jumping to conclusions. It is assuming an intended deception on her part. I prefer not to assume. Have a great weekend, everyone!
xoxo
Debbie
Example: I consider myself to be tall, because I am taller than the current average height for women in this country. But just this week I've heard both, "Wow you really are tall!" AND "Oh, you're not really tall!" ......so even something simple can have different meanings.
Most people here may want there to be one concrete definition of "Girlfriend Experience" (and that would make things a lot easier) but unfortunately GFE does mean different things to different people. How they come up with these ideas (and they run the gamut from what I personally consider a bit impersonal to what many define as a PSE) is a mystery.... likely just based upon their own preferences and desires. It doesn't matter how or why others define it differently than what is popularly accepted here... what matters is that there ARE other definitions out there. So when a lady calls herself GFE, although her services may not match up with the common definition, perhaps she truly defines GFE as something else. Or perhaps she really is knowingly lying.
To say that any lady calling herself GFE when she does not meet the popular expectations of such is obviously lying is jumping to conclusions. It is assuming an intended deception on her part. I prefer not to assume. Have a great weekend, everyone! xoxo
Debbie
loverman89
posted
34 / 35
seeker_of_truth
posted
35 / 35
Sure, for you (and others) GFE means getting the "connection" and "friendliness". But for the hobbyists it has come to mean something else (at least for many of the hobbyists) -- this is what we have learnt from this discussion. So here's solutions: let's get rid of (or enhance) the confusing terms and clarify everything in plain black and white. Say, for the sake of argument, something like:
- GFE: basic "girlfriend-y" experience (whatever that may mean) and if the girl really likes you she may offer more, but it essentially means CBJ and no Kissing
- GFE+: The GFE from above along with kissing but CBJ only.
- GFE++: GFE+ with BBBJ
- GFE*: Provider offers Greek So as an example, if a provider ad says: GFE+ & GFE* --> Then I know she does kiss, does CBJ and allows Greek but not BBBJ. It is very easy to expand this to have absolutely NO confusion. If now, a provider offers GFE++ and doesn't offer a BBBJ then the client has a right to protest and either write a bad review or get their money back (good luck with that!
-- but word will get out and her business will suffer. I mean, you can even replace the GFE, GFE+, GFE*, etc. with simple letter codes even: A, B, C, D, etc. So, all a provider really has to put on her website is something like: ACD (this will mean GFE++ with Greek). Sorry, this is the engineer/scientist in me -- it is very easy to design a code/system that lacks confusion on either side. Should be easy to do: once a few providers start using this (in on local market, say Chicago) then it will catch on in a more broader area. ESPECIALLY if the hobbyists start using it in their reviews -- at the start of the VIP section, just put up the code (so that people can quickly glance at it) and then go on to the descriptive parts. In fact, the code doesn't even have to be very big/long. Can cover the essential parts that guys look for, such as: BBBJ, DATY, Greek, etc. It can easily be extended to more categories (or remove others) once tastes/preferences changes. And I'll stop writing now. :P
- GFE: basic "girlfriend-y" experience (whatever that may mean) and if the girl really likes you she may offer more, but it essentially means CBJ and no Kissing
- GFE+: The GFE from above along with kissing but CBJ only.
- GFE++: GFE+ with BBBJ
- GFE*: Provider offers Greek So as an example, if a provider ad says: GFE+ & GFE* --> Then I know she does kiss, does CBJ and allows Greek but not BBBJ. It is very easy to expand this to have absolutely NO confusion. If now, a provider offers GFE++ and doesn't offer a BBBJ then the client has a right to protest and either write a bad review or get their money back (good luck with that!
-- but word will get out and her business will suffer. I mean, you can even replace the GFE, GFE+, GFE*, etc. with simple letter codes even: A, B, C, D, etc. So, all a provider really has to put on her website is something like: ACD (this will mean GFE++ with Greek). Sorry, this is the engineer/scientist in me -- it is very easy to design a code/system that lacks confusion on either side. Should be easy to do: once a few providers start using this (in on local market, say Chicago) then it will catch on in a more broader area. ESPECIALLY if the hobbyists start using it in their reviews -- at the start of the VIP section, just put up the code (so that people can quickly glance at it) and then go on to the descriptive parts. In fact, the code doesn't even have to be very big/long. Can cover the essential parts that guys look for, such as: BBBJ, DATY, Greek, etc. It can easily be extended to more categories (or remove others) once tastes/preferences changes. And I'll stop writing now. :P