I've been in communication with some beauties on X that seem too good to be true, but I'm just not sure. They post frequently on X, often with unblurred photos, but haven't been on the site for that many months. They tend to want deposits as much as 40-50% and one even wants to charge $150 for Face Time verification. No reviews, either. My inclination is not to trust them but I wonder if anyone else has had good experiences in such a situation?

"My inclination is not to trust them." - I think you should trust your inclination not to trust them.  
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Old universal adage: If it seems too good to be true it probably is.

Instead of working from ads / photos  to reviews, why not start with TER Reviews to guide your preliminary search (appearance / performance / hair color / etc. ...) and THEN check their ads for photos, personal self-descriptions, and other details?  

Good advice. I'm still curious though if anyone else has pulled that particular trigger and had a good result. And how common is it for a 50% deposit?

Think with the big head. Not the little one.

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You are not in communication with some "beauties", you have been in communication with a highly educated Indian who is running 20 other "sex worker" AI accounts and a making bank from stupid Amercian men who actually think they are real. Please in the future when you come across them submit a spam report. For the love of everything do NOT send them money!!!

I'd never see someone based on their presence on X alone. Never. Especially with the big red flag of a 50% deposit. NO WAY.

"Start with TER Reviews to guide your preliminary search (appearance / performance / hair color / etc. ...) and THEN check their ads for photos, personal self-descriptions, and other details."

 
Sage advice.  Do yourself a favor, and take it.

We are on X with a link to our website which has a link to our TER reviews.

A presence on X alone is such a grey area. Trust your gut and run away.

There have been numerous threads started on this board by guys who were scammed when responding to social media ads allegedly from providers.  Contrast this with the total absence of ANY threads where customers are bragging that they answered a provider ad promoting a discount and it was the deal of a lifetime.  Discounts are worthless on anything where you don't know the true value before the alleged discount was applied.  Hard to put a price on pussy, but it's easy to put a price on a face and a body type.  Beware fake photos.  

many reviews or some kind of long online history with the same name going back years. I would not trust this.
There are many ladies who are on X that do require deposits for even a 1hr appt and are reputable. But that is easy to verify with a google search.
If you are not certain it is best to just avoid. No one wants to be ripped off.

but when I find one I'm interested in, my second stop is on TER to see if she has a profile and reviews.  I'm sure you're right that there are exceptions and legitimate providers can be found who are not on TER, but the extra layer of credibility that a TER profile/reviews provides means I don't have to search for corroborating info in the far reaches of the internet.  

You don't have to pay a deposit. Ever. There are plenty, and I mean PLENTY of beautiful ladies that don't require a deposit.  

Deposit = move on to the the next one.

Deposits are a way to make sure we’re both committed to our time together! They help me keep my schedule free to accommodate people who truly value my services, rather than just saying yes to anyone who might be considering me as a backup plan or a passing fantasy. A lot of friends who never used to ask for deposits now do after dealing with no-shows and LE. And some work from home so probably good to minimize who they’re sending their location to.

If someone feels like a bit of a gamble, I’d say it’s fair to offer a smaller deposit to show sincerity. That way, it’s not too much of a risk if it turns out you’re better off not meeting someone who would do something unethical.

I typically ask for a deposit of 15-20%, or 50% for 'Fly Me to You' bookings. Most people find this reasonable, especially given how active I am online and how easy it is to communicate with me.

Personally, I don’t usually do phone or video calls unless it’s something like an overnight or multi-day booking. I’m much more comfortable with written communication — even with my mom, haha! 😄 Oral is more fun in person, though 😉

While platforms like Tryst and OnlyFans do verify our IDs, it doesn’t always guarantee legitimacy since some girls hire out their communication. For me, it’s all about building a real connection. Logical arguments don’t speak to the emotions behind why people choose to book — it’s about being authentic. When both of us are on the same page, it’s the perfect match!

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First of all, deposits are relatively new. 10 years ago, only a tiny percentage of providers asked. Now, many demand it. It is certainly an "old school vs new school" sort of thing.  
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You are both a provider and a customer right? You are the client often in your civie life. You can certainly understand why there is so much push back against deposits from clients in p4p. I certainly do, and I am one that pays them, if the 3 or 4 conditions I need are met (i.e. she has a long track record of acting professionally with them, they are at or under 30% or so, they are of a method I feel comfortable with, etc)
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Just remember, guys flaking and LE have been around forever. There has been tons of changes in the last 3-4 years as deposits are just one of them. More and more girls want RW info i.e. our employer name, drivers licenses, selfies, LinkedIn profiles, FaceTime chats, etc. The bottom line is that change is very difficult, especially since the ground rules have been the same for the last 30 years prior to 2020 or so. Those old rules were "no deposits ever." I get that. But times change.
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I just wish everyone could see this issue from the other side. That would be a help. I don't lecture ANYONE they should pay a deposit. Ever. That would be me leaving my lane. That being said, the people that are always 100% anti-deposit, should stay in their lane as well. Now, I don't mean veteran guys shouldn't point out the potential downside of sending a deposit as that is just looking out for someone with less experience. But the gents telling all others to never send a deposit are doing it to serve their best interests and dont consider the downside for the providers by not collecting one.  
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On the verification front, to me personally, I can not verify you (plural) simply bc you are on Tryst, Er*s, or OF. They mean nothing to me. IDs can be faked and I have no idea how stringent or legitimate of a verification process they even administer to the providers. Since I cant tell, I need people I trust (i.e. guys with long track records of decency and honesty) to write reviews and be able to contact them privately. That is how I get my peace of mind.  
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Again, I just wish each side could be more understanding of the other. Many women tell me they don't want to ask for a deposit but they need to. It is an extra step in the process for them, with more emails back and forth than they would prefer but they feel it is a necessary evil to protect themselves financially. Let's face it. Any guy, if they could, would do the same thing if the roles were reversed and every girl would do the same thing i.e. push back against deposits if they could in their RW buying of services or products.  
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What I have found, and what I am appreciative of, is the girls that demand a deposit, are almost universally flexible in the manner they receive same. That seems to me to be the compromise. Many women will take a photo of a Gift Card so they can access the numbers off it and place it into their Amazon or Uber online account, as some examples. That seems like a win/win but everyone reserves the right to act and set policies as they wish. I just dont think either side should pressure the other to do so, publicly or privately.

I understand your reasoning for a deposit. But, deposit scams by supposed providers are much more prevalent than legit deposits lately.
Therefore there's zero reason for someone to take a chance on paying a deposit now. There are lots of very good providers that do not require it.

I totally get the client's perspective. In an industry with low barriers to entry, risks are high especially with AI making it harder to discern legitimacy. Some providers aren't as friendly as they seem, and safety is a huge concern. When I worked at the ranch, onsite security meant I didn’t need personal client info, just appointment negotiations or walk-ins, and regular background checks on providers kept everyone safe. Today, doing proper research on a provider is crucial.

I pay deposits for photoshoots, hair, nails, and massages, with cancellation policies. A $50–$150 deposit is minimal to me, and I’d rather compensate someone if I can’t make it. For larger arrangements like "fly me to you," I get the need for video verification. I understand clients’ hesitancy and don’t write them off—seduction is part of the sales process, and many who were cautious became deposit-payers. Some expect perfection, but handling objections is key.

I only accept cash and don’t require ID if a client has strong references. I’ve had bad experiences, so my deposit and screening policies help me feel safe. They may mean more "no’s," but it’s worth it. As a woman, I take extra precautions due to physical vulnerabilities and prefer clients who respect my boundaries. I’ve had clients who showed true colors behind closed doors, and catering to anonymity can sometimes attract those who don’t value mutual respect. I’d rather not argue boundaries or have to invoke emergency protocols though I’ll return the donation and leave if it’s bad enough.

Even with screening and deposits, some first-time clients still show problematic behaviors, and criminals don’t care about consequences. I wouldn’t meet anyone off a regular dating app without screening either. Maybe watching too much true crime and my non-confrontational nature has me extra cautious. I truly appreciate all the consideration from my patrons! 🫶

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Giving a 50% deposit to someone with no accessible reviews is asking for trouble.

NOT the deposit comparison with "photoshoots, hair, nails, and massages." Because NONE of those businesses are illegal and NONE of them is rife with vendors who take a deposit and then ghost the customer and keep the deposit.
Sadly, that is the case with escorts far too often.

Definitely. I don’t need to do this bad enough to pay anyone a deposit.

I totally understand where you're coming from. I wasn’t trying to compare businesses and disregard the concerns—just sharing that I pay deposits often and don’t mind losing the negligible amount if I cancel, as it’s a way to respect their time and effort. Having worked as a receptionist and manager at a massage chain, I’ve experiences how hard it is to get clients to respect cancellation policies even when we bent over backward to fill canceled spots and to try to avoid having to charge people. People still don’t want to comply with deposits/cancellation fees in almost every business (and some of those service providers usually make an hourly base wage!) For me, a deposit of $50-100 is nothing especially because with my schedule I know I might not show up.

A lot of my appointments are upkeep/preparation for upcoming sessions. I usually take 2hr+ to get ready, I also warm the nuru gel and set up everything. Deposits go toward all that stuff unless we can reschedule the same day or someone provides enough notice (I’ve seen up to 2-3 days for some providers) I give $50 to my roommate to be out if it’s within their usual sleeping window and if it’s a last minute booking and they’re not already going out for an outcall, to the gym, etc. For 2-girls, the deposit goes toward her travel to my place or for us to go to a hotel. If I rent an incall hotel room through Dayuse app, which I’ll do if someone wants a 2hr+ incall because it’s nice to have the different amenities, I’d be out ~$100-200 if the client cancelled without deposit.

I suppose I could avoid requesting deposits if I rented a separate business space and just make myself available for all, but no-shows are still a loss. It’s something I’m considering though — maybe splitting rent and sharing the space with another provider and coordinating schedules so it’s feasible.

I still don’t know if I’d like the idea of giving out location without the commitment of a paid session—some clients would probably show up only to try to emotionally manipulate me to reducing my rate or threaten to not pay or harass me. Afterall, some who paid for 1 session have convinced themselves that next time should be free because they forget to make the distinction between fantasy and reality. LE could easily book a provider who doesn’t require references/real world info and get them to agree to something illegal, but a small deposit at least weeds that out. I’m not very explicit, but with deposit and their agreement to the terms on my form (which legally protects both of us) — if someone wants to discuss details, then I can be sure it’s safe to.

I even asked for cash upfront if I met someone in the hotel casino if I decided to hang around after an appt (which I no longer do because all my experiences have been horrendous compared to quality respectful gents who book from my website or ads) but I know some swear all the business in Vegas is in casinos or stripclubs vs online. I’ve only booked a handful in-person and left all of them in tears/hating what I do vs loving it which I have for the last 6 years relying on the web and with the protocols I have.

I’d be willing to bet providers are scammed more often and more in value than any *legitimate and reputable* provider ever steals in deposits (if we could actually measure that) I’ve had to buy a special pen to check cash because I kept getting fake bills, and now I only accept cash or crypto for full donations due to guys trying chargebacks or they report us to payment apps and don’t care how it affects us.

I had a guy once who paid through my wishlist, had an amazing unrushed session and then ghosted me when the gifting platform asked for confirmation of his gift. They refunded the $1000 because I couldn’t get ahold of him and neither could they. That felt like a scam and a violation of my consent. I blacklisted him, but he lives overseas. He’d even screened with another provider though he covered his last name. He booked and compensated my colleague before (who doesn’t take card payment) but she’s not FS so he wanted to book with me this time, but it was my lesson for being too lenient with payment method.

The ranch I worked at also didn’t accept deposits (despite some clients actually wanting to, so many resort to buying us things off our wishlist to show excitement and sincerity) For example, I once skipped a couples lineup and a few bar calls for a confirmed appointment, only for them to show up with a lowball offer below house minimum ($200) I realized I’d have been better off prioritizing the in-house money and making the appointment wait a few minutes or if I got booked for multiple hours-overnight, they could choose from the many and other lovely ladies. Since anyone could book online, we often got spammed with no-shows and bookings for multiple timeslots under different names and for multiple ladies via the online reservation form. For repeats/regulars, I had my own system where I would reserve the time just for them at our previous rate or more if they wanted, so long as they confirmed when they were headed to me otherwise it’d be treated the same as a walk-in. Other brothels have a process where they ask for 30% of what you intend to spend.

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I appreciate your concerns and will stipulate that people like you are not the problem. I think the real solution is for both sides to do their homework. This can make it clear that, for the customer, there's no risk in giving someone like you a deposit. But as a general rule I simply won't jump through all those hoops and will simply move on to someone who doesn't require a deposit. You'll simply have to live with that, as I will have to live with being rejected by girls who require deposits.
We can all be happy!
Best of luck!

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Thanks for bringing this up!

A few years ago, I was crushing on a prominent X woman, model and influence-er. While science has only scratched the surface in its understanding the complexities of male attraction,  she had a hard, round and pronounced posterior which, I felt, was worthy of pursuit.

I DM-ed her and, to my surprise, received a prompt response. "Wow" thought I, but soon learned all that glitters is not gold!

She:
-Had no reviews  
-Wanted up-front payment $$$$ for a proposed FMTY arrangement.
-Declined a video conference, based on privacy concerns.

What could go wrong?

I surmised she wasn't responding to my DMs at all, but that her handlers were and walked

I hope this little tale-of-woe is helpful to someone!