First of all, deposits are relatively new. 10 years ago, only a tiny percentage of providers asked. Now, many demand it. It is certainly an "old school vs new school" sort of thing.
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You are both a provider and a customer right? You are the client often in your civie life. You can certainly understand why there is so much push back against deposits from clients in p4p. I certainly do, and I am one that pays them, if the 3 or 4 conditions I need are met (i.e. she has a long track record of acting professionally with them, they are at or under 30% or so, they are of a method I feel comfortable with, etc)
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Just remember, guys flaking and LE have been around forever. There has been tons of changes in the last 3-4 years as deposits are just one of them. More and more girls want RW info i.e. our employer name, drivers licenses, selfies, LinkedIn profiles, FaceTime chats, etc. The bottom line is that change is very difficult, especially since the ground rules have been the same for the last 30 years prior to 2020 or so. Those old rules were "no deposits ever." I get that. But times change.
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I just wish everyone could see this issue from the other side. That would be a help. I don't lecture ANYONE they should pay a deposit. Ever. That would be me leaving my lane. That being said, the people that are always 100% anti-deposit, should stay in their lane as well. Now, I don't mean veteran guys shouldn't point out the potential downside of sending a deposit as that is just looking out for someone with less experience. But the gents telling all others to never send a deposit are doing it to serve their best interests and dont consider the downside for the providers by not collecting one.
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On the verification front, to me personally, I can not verify you (plural) simply bc you are on Tryst, Er*s, or OF. They mean nothing to me. IDs can be faked and I have no idea how stringent or legitimate of a verification process they even administer to the providers. Since I cant tell, I need people I trust (i.e. guys with long track records of decency and honesty) to write reviews and be able to contact them privately. That is how I get my peace of mind.
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Again, I just wish each side could be more understanding of the other. Many women tell me they don't want to ask for a deposit but they need to. It is an extra step in the process for them, with more emails back and forth than they would prefer but they feel it is a necessary evil to protect themselves financially. Let's face it. Any guy, if they could, would do the same thing if the roles were reversed and every girl would do the same thing i.e. push back against deposits if they could in their RW buying of services or products.
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What I have found, and what I am appreciative of, is the girls that demand a deposit, are almost universally flexible in the manner they receive same. That seems to me to be the compromise. Many women will take a photo of a Gift Card so they can access the numbers off it and place it into their Amazon or Uber online account, as some examples. That seems like a win/win but everyone reserves the right to act and set policies as they wish. I just dont think either side should pressure the other to do so, publicly or privately.
I've been in communication with some beauties on X that seem too good to be true, but I'm just not sure. They post frequently on X, often with unblurred photos, but haven't been on the site for that many months. They tend to want deposits as much as 40-50% and one even wants to charge $150 for Face Time verification. No reviews, either. My inclination is not to trust them but I wonder if anyone else has had good experiences in such a situation?
"My inclination is not to trust them." - I think you should trust your inclination not to trust them.
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Old universal adage: If it seems too good to be true it probably is.
I've been in communication with some beauties on X that seem too good to be true, but I'm just not sure. They post frequently on X, often with unblurred photos, but haven't been on the site for that many months. They tend to want deposits as much as 40-50% and one even wants to charge $150 for Face Time verification. No reviews, either. My inclination is not to trust them but I wonder if anyone else has had good experiences in such a situation?
Good advice. I'm still curious though if anyone else has pulled that particular trigger and had a good result. And how common is it for a 50% deposit?
I'd never see someone based on their presence on X alone. Never. Especially with the big red flag of a 50% deposit. NO WAY.
"Start with TER Reviews to guide your preliminary search (appearance / performance / hair color / etc. ...) and THEN check their ads for photos, personal self-descriptions, and other details."
Sage advice. Do yourself a favor, and take it.
You are not in communication with some "beauties", you have been in communication with a highly educated Indian who is running 20 other "sex worker" AI accounts and a making bank from stupid Amercian men who actually think they are real. Please in the future when you come across them submit a spam report. For the love of everything do NOT send them money!!!
Thanks for bringing this up!
A few years ago, I was crushing on a prominent X woman, model and influence-er. While science has only scratched the surface in its understanding the complexities of male attraction, she had a hard, round and pronounced posterior which, I felt, was worthy of pursuit.
I DM-ed her and, to my surprise, received a prompt response. "Wow" thought I, but soon learned all that glitters is not gold!
She:
-Had no reviews
-Wanted up-front payment $$$$ for a proposed FMTY arrangement.
-Declined a video conference, based on privacy concerns.
What could go wrong?
I surmised she wasn't responding to my DMs at all, but that her handlers were and walked
I hope this little tale-of-woe is helpful to someone!
We are on X with a link to our website which has a link to our TER reviews.
A presence on X alone is such a grey area. Trust your gut and run away.
There have been numerous threads started on this board by guys who were scammed when responding to social media ads allegedly from providers. Contrast this with the total absence of ANY threads where customers are bragging that they answered a provider ad promoting a discount and it was the deal of a lifetime. Discounts are worthless on anything where you don't know the true value before the alleged discount was applied. Hard to put a price on pussy, but it's easy to put a price on a face and a body type. Beware fake photos.
many reviews or some kind of long online history with the same name going back years. I would not trust this.
There are many ladies who are on X that do require deposits for even a 1hr appt and are reputable. But that is easy to verify with a google search.
If you are not certain it is best to just avoid. No one wants to be ripped off.
but when I find one I'm interested in, my second stop is on TER to see if she has a profile and reviews. I'm sure you're right that there are exceptions and legitimate providers can be found who are not on TER, but the extra layer of credibility that a TER profile/reviews provides means I don't have to search for corroborating info in the far reaches of the internet.
Giving a 50% deposit to someone with no accessible reviews is asking for trouble.