can we talk about these new screening requirements? if you need my real name, my employer, my work phone number or my linkedin to be comfortable making an appointment then this is not the line of work for you. fellow hobbyists...how do you feel about these intrusive screening requirements? providers...can you make me understand? when did references and deposits stop being enough?

Girls get to set the requirements to see them. If you are not happy with those requirements move on.  What you list seems to have been around a while (at least 5 years). References are probably good for many providers assuming the reference is someone that is well know and credible to them. You don't show any reviews so not sure what your background is or how recent the references you want to offer might be.

It’a a hobby date, not an intro to meet mom and dad.  Manage risk ladies.  Select fewer clients.  Strive for repeats.  You will know more about em after couple dates than gleamed from linkedin

I pass and move on to the next lady...BUT...I will NEVER criticize a provider on doing what makes her feel safe. If you don’t like the screening requirements, don’t complain about it, just move on.

If we all don’t have a need for anonymity then why don’t you advertise using your government name? i never said don’t screen. if multiple reputable providers say they’ve seen a guy recently and they all got paid then why do you need his personal info. moreover if you’re really concerned about getting paid then require a deposit. for every provider saying that having a client’s personal info makes them feel safer there’s four providers asking for that info to later blackmail him. you find shady characters on both sides. a lot of hobbyists would be surprised by the criminal record of the girl next door or the really hot milf in those ads. i just read a review where a guy had a session at his apartment and gave the provider a bad review and she showed back up at his apartment and he had to move. on the other end of the spectrum check out the personal site of jillian foxxx...this provider was attacked by one of her regular clients and hospitalized for months. i say all that to say...you never know what could happen and we all accept the risks...hobbyists and providers.

Everyone sets their comfort level for screening.  You don’t like it, no need to be on here complaining.

"This is not the line of work for you"?  Jeez dude seriously? I don't see providers that require that type of info, but I simply move on. People are free to navigate this business however they want.

As a few of my old girlfriends noted, "The worst thing that can happen to a guy on a date is he gets turned down and his ego gets bruised. For a woman, she can get killed". It happens more often than you think in the civvie world. Woman goes out on a date, and gets killed. It is not as uncommon as you think.

I get it from both sides, on one end the ladies need to do what makes and keeps them safe, but for the guys they are worried about ashley madison like data dumps. So there is significant risk. As my position at my firm became more public facing I've scaled back A LOT of my hobbying.  To where I haven't seen any lady for almost a year. So much so that I think my hobbying days are likely behind me. I would not feel comfortable with any personal info that leads back to me, but I know with anything there's risk, we're all just trying to mitigate it best we can. The ladies are totally in their right to do the same.

I’m not too keen on providing that info either.  I’ve seen numerous ladies, all without issues. On the flip side, I’ve had ladies cancel on me last minute or straight up ghost me. Never left a review or trashed the lady because I consider that to be a part of the game.  

You sound like a good candidate for international travel; Montreal, Toronto, Mexico, Netherlands, and in particular FKK Germany.  

Whenever a provider asks for LinkedIn, real name, and employer, I politely move on.  People’s lives will be destroyed as a result of this, either purposefully or inadvertently.  You can book it.  

Why can't a frustrated monger whine a little too?

Providing too much info, especially work info, provides too many opportunities for scams and blackmail. It‘s the Internet.

The guy is simply expressing his concern.... you are no one to tell him to not post here. Just like everyone-providers can decide what info they want for screening......Similarly anyone-hobbyists can decide what concerns to bring up to discuss here. You don’t like it? Just don’t post or read!

Simple law of supply chain- this area lacks good providers & that’s the reason even average or below average providers have donations & screening requirements beyond par.  

Getting older & most experienced?? LMAO...cut the crap...didn’t you do your first review posting like few months ago #FPUA_introduced?

This is a board....he is entitled to share his opinion....you don’t like the post...simply don’t post but don’t tell him to not to post...it’s not your website!!!!!

Also, mongers are free to post here....you don’t like a post....don’t post....you can’t tell him to not post if you don’t like what he posts!

Except when a gentleman is trying to use them to book a last minute date, ladies need ample time to respond.  

Wow! That was quite an intelligent answer. You could have saved so many postings by speaking your mind before.

I will be in DC/Nova from the 15-29 😘 (you'll find my itinerary under DC ads).

While I don't have a problem with references, all providers deserve equal safety regardless of where they fall on the "hotness" spectrum, to say that only "above average" providers should get to screen strictly is seriously assinine.

why providers need as much PII information as some do as if others, who don't need as much PII don't care about their safety etc.  

Different strokes for different folks. He doesn’t like  it, move on.  

And i can say the same for you.

His lack of self awareness is comical.  

Very true

I wouldn't see any provider asking for all that info the OP lists. No female company is worth the risk of what she may do with it.  

I personally don't have problems contacting/meeting providers that aren't on 411 as long as they have multiple recent reviews here along with Normal screening and of course looks and rates.
Have met several from just the reviews here without any issues.

Bruh there are some crazy women out there too..Like that one in Arizona who stabbed that guy while he was taking a shower after they had sex.  Damn I forgot her name. lol

Early on, a younger naïve me would give up all my info to get an appt. I did this with several Agencies, that at the time were providing the hottest of escorts in the DC area. Once I gave them my info, I got to see all the glorious women I could afford.  Then they got busted. Then the calls from LE. Expensive lawyers. Then the blackmail emails to my hobby email acct. Weird threatening messages left on my hobby and work phones.  If you are risk adverse, are worried about getting divorced and loosing your kids or your paycheck, or loosing your job, THEN either don't be in this hobby or don't give up your info. It is that simple. When an Independent or Agency gets busted, they are offered a deal for a lighter sentence. They WILL Give up your info and records of visits (ALA DC MADAM). If they get caught with their cell phone and/or laptop, LE will download that info to try and turn more people on each other.

Do you remember the Madame in Frederick, MD that was busted? That caused quite a stir. Fortunately, in that case, people were smart enough to use burner phones and fake names. Several "Bill Clintons" were helpful in undermining the investigation. Even if there was a "real name" it could have been fake paired with a burner phone. So, the lack of technology helped. They didn't post everything to the web, they just printed the lists and made them available for people to come in and read. I don't think that would happen today.

Try telling that to someone who absolutely needs your PII, they will assure you that they shred everything etc but we all know better.

Like I stated, any provider who says she deletes your info right after verification is lying. It’s insurance in case something goes awry during the first meet. After that initial meet then perhaps... but the whole generic statement about ‘deleting after verification’... is b.s.

from both sides. If you are not comfortable giving your info to that provider... you dont have to. Move to someone else that is less strict. Although, you could be missing some good fun & safe time. But at the end of the day is your decision, just like the provider decision on how she does her screening.  

"when did references and deposits stop being enough?"
IMHO a hobbyist is ill advised to give a deposit.  Deposit scams are rampant in the hobby.  Unless you already know the lady and have an established understanding, giving a deposit is just asking for trouble.
Even when intentions are honorable on both sides shit happens and a deposit can easily become a point  of contention.
I've been in the hobby for 15 years and seen over 400 ladies and have never given a deposit.  On the other hand, I have read many a thread where newbie hobbyist have gotten scammed using the "deposit" ploy.  Don't do it.

No screening P4P fun.

Folks in this hobby just need to do their own thing based on their comfort level.
I’m a P411 only guy, because I don’t like giving out my info.
True, I might miss out on spending time with some nice ladies - but I avoid all the stress of worrying about my info being out there.  No brainer for me.
On the flip side, ladies who require more personal info will miss out on some great potential clients - but that’s a sacrifice they are willing to make for their safety.

With covid so many “grandma’s have died” 😂 so sometimes deposits are a most. It depends on the client and their screening.... and my instinct these days

Providers with strict and sometimes inexplicably strict PII policies would also lose some very good clients who could be repeat customers.

is what I follow. There are plenty of providers that one can meet without giving up PII or making a deposit.