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MajorReno 1467 reads
posted
1 / 23

As an observer of the events of the past 2 years, I have concluded that Hotel hobbying anywhere in MD is unsafe, and should be avoided.
I would also have similar concerns regarding Tysons hotels.
The hobby has clearly been decimated.
The only relatively safer venues might be an incall apartment [with precautions], or outcall to a hotel room reserved by the guy.
Perhaps more ladies can arrange to entertain in safe apartment locations [although I realize that this is not entirely without risk].
Unfortunate but honest conclusions---simply my assessment.

Not-so-drunken-dude 960 reads
posted
2 / 23

are still relatively safe. LE and Feds no what is going on. However, they are not going to do much, unless there are major complaints. Tyson's hotels are far from residential areas, and Dupont is just filled with so many people. MD is just not safe; I still can't believe some   girls are visiting some "hot spots" in MD

zombieman12 6 Reviews 751 reads
posted
3 / 23

Saw a provider out of a hotel block from Tyson mall.  As I left my appointment a hotel security walked right past me.  I won't go back there to risky.   Lower end hotels tend to be me less risky I think.  Just out of curiosity do high end hotels train their front desk agents to spots hobbyist?  I use to work at lower end hotel and we never noticed hobbyists coming in and out.

!!!!! 691 reads
posted
4 / 23

With apartments, one should move every 6 months or so. Eventually some nosy neighbors will notice the traffic. Low volume providers at hotels should be fine, and don't make the clients wait at the door.

MajorReno 666 reads
posted
5 / 23

Most 2 star and above chains have been training staff report/co-operate anything of interest,or of a suspicious nature.

!!!!! 531 reads
posted
6 / 23

Of course it would be suspicious to someone, with or without training, if a female customer has 5, 6 male visitors a day for 5 straight days. Low volume with short stays is fine.

MajorReno 428 reads
posted
7 / 23

I hear you, but even the Upscale ladies often do not adhere to the regimen to which you allude.
Forewarned is forearmed...JMO

Sidney Starr See my TER Reviews 801 reads
posted
8 / 23

Hotels are fine. See girls who know what they are doing and who hopefully if they are visiting are spacing their appts apart rather then seeng clients bak to back. This has always been talked about. You just have to have common sense and k ow what you are doing.

 Apts are NoT safer then hotels. Think about it. Neighbors DO notice if different men are coming and going all hours of the day and night. I live in a nice gated community and I don't really care what my neighbors are doing, BUT I DO just notice things. I notice if they are on vacation or if they have visitors sometimes. I know their routine, meaning they are gone by 8 and back in the evening. So apartments OR houses are NOt safer then hotels.

 Hotels have more traffic and all minds of things going on. People come and go, they run to their room for an hour or two to change or check messages or freshen up. So it's not as wowed to see a guy go up and then come back down an hour or two later.

 Both have it's pros and cons, as do most cities.

Happy Hobbying!!!

latina.bebe See my TER Reviews 345 reads
posted
9 / 23
dreamsescorts See Agency Profile 447 reads
posted
10 / 23

Posted By: MajorReno
.....but even the Upscale ladies often do not adhere to the regimen to which you allude......
MajorReno:

Then by your own words it's not a blanket failure of a "State" but the actions of an individual is the highest weighted variable in what I call a "causality equation". http://goo.gl/AOzma

Yokozuna58 isn't in denial at all, he thoughtfully challenges your ideas on two fronts. One social class ( what kind of women are you seeing) and two actions of the individual (behavior).

I have saying " Often in life it's not what you do, but how you do it which matters." His points are correct, the smart provider avoids specific red flag behaviors. Some Backpage providers take the path of least resistance and make themselves low hanging fruit.

The problem isn't Maryland is a hot state, the issue is something I've been saying from day one, raise your standards, do things a certain way and you minimize your risk. Plain and simple. But to accuse him of being in denial simply because IMHO he respectfully and effectively challenged you on the battlefield of ideas is ludicrous at best.


I know, "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you."


Of course you will do what you do, and I will continue to swim in lake Maryland  just fine. Of course don't think for a second I don't have a portable flotation device with me at all times.


Respectfully,


Lee Dreams

" It's all about Integrity"


TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 419 reads
posted
11 / 23

....so I dunno about the hobby being decimated.
Outcalls to Tysons or pretty much and part of DC and most of NoVa is okay for me. Last time I did incall in MD (very few) was when I had an apartment out there. I've cut off outcalls to MD for a while though. I've thought about temporary incall apartmets too, imo an incall is as safe as the lady screen and her amount of traffic into it.

xray84 28 Reviews 411 reads
posted
12 / 23

Ah. That's the sound of the lightbulb going off over my head. I'm seen a couple of ladies of the discrete, careful sort and seen the luggage they carried and thought, "Holy, crap, that's a lot of lingerie, condoms and toys!" Now I see; it's towels and sheets (and some lingerie too...)

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 368 reads
posted
13 / 23

One of the problems I have with maryland is the hotels seem to be either minimal quality or inconvenient--or both.

I have had no such issues with hotels in DC & NoVa, though I have had issues with some of the ladies.  To me the selection of a lady who knows how to conduct her business is more important than the hotel.

Personally I prefer to host at my place for several reasons, but I have no issues visiting a quality lady at her place.  Often for ladies I know I will just add them to my reservation, or leave a key for them at the desk.  With reasonable care and discretion I have never had an issue.  In fact, at some hotels they have gone out of their way to make her feel comfortable as an extention of my being a frequent stayer.  As an added precaution the ladies I do this with always look professional, and we have taken care of any finances in advance.

I am not challenging your assessment--so much depends upon the individual people as well as the circumstances.

earthshined 397 reads
posted
14 / 23

I will only see one person on one day at a specific time so there is less suspicion coming from hotel staff.

The other important issue is the type of hotel.I don't mean star rating.In some hotels you can enter from the parking  lot right to the elevator without going through lobby.Other hotels have the entrance somewhat separate from the front desk.if you  happen to go when there is a conference or wedding there are a lot of people walking about making it easier to blend in.

Cameras at a hotel could be an issue but that would only apply if police or staff are actively investigating an incident.Hotels dont have people in dark rooms watching cameras minute by minute.

ChristianSands 13 Reviews 375 reads
posted
15 / 23

"Staying 3 or 4 nights in the same hotel and seeing 4, 5 or 6 guys a day"
-That's pretty much every agency gal.  Hotel staff doesn't need to see condoms and sex toys lying around to be suspicious.  If a young, attractive gal is staying in her room all day except for the hour or so it takes for housekeeping to make up the room, and does this everyday for several days, coupled with a series of men who are not guests arriving and leaving within an hour, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that something is probably up.  You're fooling yourself if you think that the difference between getting noticed and not getting noticed is obvious behavior - like dressing like a hooker or having sex toys lying around.  I'll bet that most of the time, someone at the hotel knows exactly what's going on - even with the high end ladies - it's just that they don't have any interest in challenging it.  If LE brings a situation to the hotel's attention, or there are complaints from other guests, then they'll act on it.  Or if things get out of hand and they think their hotel is viewed as being a good place for a gal to set up shop, they'll probably take action.  But it's not all explained by how the lady conducts herself.

Posted By: Yokozuna58
My assessment is that your statements are overblown and since they are your honest conclusions, maybe you should widen your perspective a bit and assess things a little more?

It really is all about how the lady conducts herself while in the hotel.

What you describe is a typical issue for BP type providers ... staying 3 or 4 nights in the same hotel and seeing 4, 5 or 6 guys a day. Certain red flags for the hotel staff can include but are not limited to:

    Checking in with no luggage
    Dressing the part of a street hooker
    Asking for extra towels, soap, shampoo, etc. all the time
    Condoms / sex toys out in the open when the maids come in to clean the room
    Candles all around the room
    Steady stream of guys only staying an hour or so
    and the list can go on and on ...........

Hotel staffs are now trained to recognize these things and report them.

However, the more "professional" lady checks in to a hotel with luggage (maybe she even brings extra towels in them for herself?) and is dressed accordingly so as not to stand out (maybe this time of year, she's dressed in a baggy t-shirt, shorts and flip-flops with her hair tied back or under a hat - i.e. looking like a tourist ... or she is dressed in a business suit looking like she is in town for work). She also keeps her "supplies" well hidden and disposes of them so as not to draw any extra attention (maybe she takes them out with her when she goes out and disposes of them that way?). She only sees a few gents per day so as not to wear a path in the carpet leading to her room.

I live and hobby in Maryland and go to hotels for rendezvous's all the time with no issues whatsoever. But then again, maybe I am seeing a different type of lady than you are?

It is my assessment that your warning, while valid to a small degree, should NOT be used as an overall assessment of hotel hobbying in Maryland ... your comments, as presented, just don't hold up to include everyone.



Dr Dave 7 Reviews 274 reads
posted
16 / 23

Actually, the "Shamwow Guy" appears to be well acquainted with the escort market (link attached).  This could be the business opportunity he is looking for to boost his sales!

john2510 8 Reviews 409 reads
posted
17 / 23

I think it would take some pretty careless activity by the provider to cause any real problems, and then only for herself.

I can hear the conversation now, "Miss, we notice that you're young and attractive and use a lot of towels... Are you a hooker?"

Unless she stays weeks on end, it's doubtful staff will see many of the guests as they approach/depart the room.

There's always plausible deniability.  The worst I could picture is the hotel telling her that her business with their chain is no longer appreciated.

It would take a foolish hotel manager indeed to involve LE and risk having his hotel in the news that night.

As a hobbyist, I'm much more concerned with a sting than I am with the hotel or lurking LE.

Posted By: MajorReno
As an observer of the events of the past 2 years, I have concluded that Hotel hobbying anywhere in MD is unsafe, and should be avoided.
I would also have similar concerns regarding Tysons hotels.
The hobby has clearly been decimated.
The only relatively safer venues might be an incall apartment [with precautions], or outcall to a hotel room reserved by the guy.
Perhaps more ladies can arrange to entertain in safe apartment locations [although I realize that this is not entirely without risk].
Unfortunate but honest conclusions---simply my assessment.

MajorReno 394 reads
posted
18 / 23

What I derive from all the posts above:

1.Nearly everyone agrees that the state of MD is off limits.

2. Agencies should also be avoided [whatever few remain].

3.Hotels in DC, Alexandria,and possibly Tysons are "safe", as long as the lady sees only 1-2 clients per day, she carts in her own sheets, towels, etc., and avoids the omnipresent cameras.

Who said the hobby has not been decimated?

Not-so-drunken-dude 487 reads
posted
19 / 23

from a few different agencies. Most in Tyson's with one or two in Dupont. However,  no one has ever said anything to me yet.  A couple front desk guys did say something, and it was a simple  " Have a nice day Sir." I suppose if you fit the stereotype of a chubby, middle-aged, White gentleman,  they might be more suspicious.

Laura De Leon See my TER Reviews 424 reads
posted
20 / 23

Probably that's why a good idea to stick with independent well known ladies that are  know how to screen and are low volume...  High volume will be suspicious anywhere!!!

Just my thoughts!


Laura

!!!!! 196 reads
posted
21 / 23

The most important precaution, I think, is not to stay at one hotel too long -- a couple or 3 days. maybe. By the time the hotel staff becomes suspicious, the lady's already gone.

go4milfsandgreek 144 Reviews 439 reads
posted
22 / 23

Through work, I have gotten to know about 50 hotel GMs very, very well.

Their take on things -- the more corporately run hotels tend to be more agressive about preventing providers from staying there and are quick to bounce them at the slightest complaint/suspicion.  The big, monster hotels, like the Marriott Copley of CraigsList fame, are also tend to be too big for them to police effectively. Come on, the CL victim wheeled a massage table through check in and security did not raise an eyebrow!

Midrange, extended stay hotels --Courtyards and the like -- have much lower staffing levels and are less likely to notice visitors. Their clientele is more casual.

Boutiques and five-stars are much more favorable to providers. So long as no one complains, they dont see it as their business what goes on in their guest rooms. These hotels attract fewer families, more either hard-core business travelers or a cooler crowd who tend to spend less time in their rooms than average guests, so fewer ears to hear activities and notice passers by.

digdirkler 109 Reviews 302 reads
posted
23 / 23

"and Dupont is just filled with so many people."
FALSE I WAS BUSTED IN DUPONT ON AN INCALL LADY COP DECOY STING

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