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BondGirl007 1654 reads
posted
1 / 27

Hello everyone,  I've decided to do this, thru an agency but not sure which is best, can anyone give me pointers?
Long red hair,  hazel eyes,  petite with a nice round butt :)
*unfortunately I do have tattoos (minimal) but those will b gone soon
Thank

Grigori_Rasputin 1032 reads
posted
2 / 27

Book an appointment with an establishef inde girl for pointers on working for yourself. Agencies are fine but would you rather work for yourself of get pimped.

Bailey_Bleu818 See my TER Reviews 760 reads
posted
3 / 27

Why work for someone and turn over your profits? Yes, there is a learning curve: how to screen, what areas to visit, hotel booking. But there is nothing like counting 1800 and placing it in your bank account. You do the work-YOU should have the profits! Read, read and read! Did I say READ?  
Look on EROS and see how ads are worded. What the girls are asking for and google. Read the boards to find what areas are deemed nice. Ask questions! Most of us are more than happy to tell you where to go and what areas have been welcoming to us. I keep a diary of hotels! Secret entrances, how not to pass the front desk, where people can wait without being noticed! It turns into a nice adventure!

As for as tatts...I hear people complaining. My back looks like a garden-which is what I wanted. Flowers and vines. I hear nothing but nice words when I'm in a certain position (smile). They are always shocked its there. I wouldn't worry too much about art work unless its really weird :)
Just my 2cents!!!

dreamsescorts See Agency Profile 911 reads
posted
4 / 27

I wouldn't presume to choose for you.

Each path has it's own pros and cons, a statement of the obvious.  

Each agency has its own operational philosophies and operate differently at the mechanical level. As for being an independent the range of experiential outcomes run the gambit. Different women manifest different outcomes and some personality types just don't have the self or emotional discipline some do. Agency woman and independents generally have two different personality and psych profiles. This fact comes from years of observation and duh, running an agency and being a marketing consultant to several independents behind the scenes.

I suggest you take a look at yourself first and answer the question "who am I" ? This single question will be the greatest determinate whether you succeed or fail since it governs your decisions. I have mentored several Independents and several Agency owners and everyone thinks it's about the mechanics of the transaction. (This is especially true of clients, they only see one side of the equation.) Well before you get to the 'how', you must pass through 'who you are'.  The individuals who crash and burn ALL have ignored this understanding.  I have watched this truth play out over..and over..and over..

Granted, a bit more of an advance concept than what you asked, however it doesn't make it  any less true.

If you want to understand what in general why some choose and agency check out this posting:
"You don't know, what you do not know, and you dont really care either "
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=245100&boardID=6&page=#245100

It should help.  

If you choose to go the indy route, then read everything you can and by all means ask for help. However, be cautious and understand not every woman is going to be helpful. There are those who will sabotage you in a heart beat just as there are those who will give honest help.

This is an important decision, take your time.


Most Sincerely,


Lee Dreams
"Sine amore, nihil est vita"


P.S:

Should you choose or desire to contact me, do via  E-MAIL no PM's please. I can also recommend a few independents who I know would give you good direction. Otherwise I wish you the best.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showAgency.asp?id=1124

-- Modified on 4/20/2013 1:34:27 PM

Bailey_Bleu818 See my TER Reviews 739 reads
posted
5 / 27

I totally agree with you! You definately need to know who you are and what your limitations are, as well! Not to mention be driven! Your post took a lot of the small things in consideration as well as the larger picture

dreamsescorts See Agency Profile 705 reads
posted
6 / 27

Posted By: Bailey_Bleu818
I totally agree with you! You definately need to know who you are and what your limitations are, as well! Not to mention be driven! Your post took a lot of the small things in consideration as well as the larger picture.  
Thank you,

I do make the effort to assist when I can, provide rational perspectives for consideration as best as I am able.

Some-days, I succeed and other days I fail.

Regardless, thank you for your words.

 
Sincerely,

 
Lee Dreams
Serva me, servabo t

BondGirl007 743 reads
posted
7 / 27
BondGirl007 646 reads
posted
8 / 27
BondGirl007 679 reads
posted
9 / 27

Thank you so much,  I appreciate the time and wisdom shared :)

macdaddy1944 51 Reviews 655 reads
posted
10 / 27

i would start with an agency..let them do the work..it will take you awhile to learn the ropes..when you feel confident enough in yourself..go indie..you will see the best and worst of both worlds..you ultimately will make the choice you are most comfortable with..

Grigori_Rasputin 728 reads
posted
11 / 27

Apparently you dont know the goings on behind the scenes within this industry. Agencies do not take too kindly to a girl leaving them and going Indy after they have built her up. There are a couple pimps in Federal prison now that used to operate in the DC area who got busted for this very reason. I am not saying that they are all this way but it is very common. One more thing to the threadstarter, just because she is a woman who runs an agency, it does not mean that she is less dangerou, greedy and ruthless than some of these male pimps.

DCIntroductions See Agency Profile 605 reads
posted
12 / 27

Like others have said both have their pros and cons. I can only speak for myself but I have zero issues when a lady that works for me goes independent as long as they don't steal money cause often, an agency is how a lady gets started in this business. We as agency owners don't own these ladies, they aren't our property however I do know that for some indies it takes a while to build a reputation and get clients. Agencies can assist with that. If you are going to work with an agency, do your homework, ask around as you've already done, and if it doesn't work for you, move on to another agency or become independent.  

Good luck  
Taylor

Sexy Gymnast See my TER Reviews 701 reads
posted
13 / 27

I will totally help you! :)

xoxoxo Aerial May~

macdaddy1944 51 Reviews 607 reads
posted
14 / 27

perfectly said..all the " pimp" talk excluded..this is the way to go..agencies are there to help the girls get started..they are reputable and always look out for the new ladies welfare and safety..if she enjoys the agency and its workings..she will stay..if she wants to learn how to screen and book on her own..they will help her..the money is always less important to a new girl than the comfort level she is seeking..some find it sooner than later..but they all eventually find it..

Posted By: DCIntroductions
Like others have said both have their pros and cons. I can only speak for myself but I have zero issues when a lady that works for me goes independent as long as they don't steal money cause often, an agency is how a lady gets started in this business. We as agency owners don't own these ladies, they aren't our property however I do know that for some indies it takes a while to build a reputation and get clients. Agencies can assist with that. If you are going to work with an agency, do your homework, ask around as you've already done, and if it doesn't work for you, move on to another agency or become independent.  
   
 Good luck  
 Taylor

foreroticreview 17 Reviews 644 reads
posted
15 / 27

Well, "Long red hair,  hazel eyes,  petite with a nice round butt" sure as hell woke me up, I mean who needs coffee....

Sent you a PM

dreamsescorts See Agency Profile 673 reads
posted
16 / 27

Posted By: Grigori_Rasputin
Apparently you dont know the goings on behind the scenes within this industry. Agencies do not take too kindly to a girl leaving them and going Indy after they have built her up. There are a couple pimps in Federal prison now that used to operate in the DC area who got busted for this very reason. I am not saying that they are all this way but it is very common. One more thing to the threadstarter, just because she is a woman who runs an agency, it does not mean that she is less dangerou, greedy and ruthless than some of these male pimps.
"How we see, what we see in the world is a reflection of our internal truth and who we truly are."
~ Lee Dreams

"...you marry your unconscious mind and then spend the rest of your life projecting out onto it"
Carl Jung

For those of us who are educated in the SCIENCE of personality profiling, the fact you chose "Grigori Rasputin" as the alias to  HIDE behind speaks volumes. Those of you reading this who know nothing of the Russian Historical figure, look him up. Keep eye to how history and Rasputin saw himself as a victim among other things. (Subject to which version of history you read) Then look at the results he generated for his life.

Grigori_Rasputin you present a continuous and ABSOLUTE negative view of a reality which is far from absolute. There are negative situations, neutral situations and positive situations. Like people who processes the world through pain and fear you focus solely on the most negative extreme to the exclusion of all else. (You know that is indicative of fanaticism right?)  Like perpetual victims and certainty freaks it APPEARS you are one of those people who project your inner pain and fear on the world around you.

Before you even attempt to deny and say " you don't know me", dude come on you chose Grigori_Rasputin as your handle.  You see women in this business as perpetual victims using phrases like "get pimped", " or "she is less dangerous, greedy and ruthless than some of these male pimps. ".   If you didn't  ultimately see women as less than, then you wouldn't present your  argument with the immediate and absolute presumption, all women in this pond are victims. By the way we have a term for that in this industry, " it's called a Captain save a Ho".  

I'm sure most providers reading this be they independent or agency girl knows exactly what I'm talking about and how ultimately demeaning it is both overtly and covertly. Usually, this personality type is an acceptable client, until they discover  you the provider doesn't want or need saving, then things often go south.

Since you see all agencies as  nothing more than "Pimps" and using your 'model of the world', not mine; in your conscious /subconscious reality all the providers  are nothing more than whores to you.  Every argument you have made is in a absolute, negative victim frame work. Therefore you can't have one belief construct without the other.  Which then leads to another sad trend.
'That which we fear, loath, rail against we attract and manifest one way or another'.  A personality type like you or let's not say you, like the one I'm presenting, would tend not to see higher social class, empowered women because they do not validate your negative disenfranchised view of the world. After-all, it's no secret many clients LOVE to slum it so they can feel superior to someone which then justifies their poor behavior.

Ultimately, this is why such negative personality types hate Agencies, because you (universal tense)  know the honest professional ones will hold you accountable. Most independents have no back up and limited recourse. Translation: can't do shit about it. This is part of the reasons behind your attempt at marginalizing us.

Are their poor Agencies, hell us. Just as their are poor clients, poor independents. Personally, the agency owner who put a gun to girls head (most of you know whom I'm talking about) deserved to have his ass put in jail and I fully support it.
Someone like him doesn't represent me, DreamsEscorts or Taylor DCIntroductions or Pam Aphroditenyc and others.

As for Agencies not letting you leave. What often happens is the "woman" in question attempts to do it in the most dishonest fashion possible. This is the "actual cause" of what comes next. Let me tell you what my policy has always been. You want to move on, do it out the front door not the back. If you do it honorably out the front door, you'll have my support (technical, marketing & screening) and blessing. Do it dishonestly out the back, I will protect any copyrights, trademarks or names.

There you go.

Summary:

Your posts reveal clearly to anyone who pays attention "WHO YOU REALLY ARE".

Therefore  tonight, I shall make a wish for your inner peace and  say a prayer for your soul.

You may now commence the denying of everything I've said and how I've taken all out of context and out to get you.

Lee Dreams
"Sine amore, nihil est vita"



-- Modified on 4/21/2013 11:54:36 AM

dreamsescorts See Agency Profile 546 reads
posted
17 / 27

You are most welcome, if you seek other prospectives or information contact me via e-mail (dreamsescortservice @ yahoo.co.uk), such action will NOT imply any commitment nor obligation.  In May I'm supposed to give a class to two Independents who requested it after speaking someone who started out with me on procedures, methodologies and perspectives.

I merely tend to help those who ask for it plan and simple. *shoulder shrug* as Brigitte would say, "it's how I roll"..

Lee Dreams
"Sine amore, nihil est vita"

junglegym25 19 Reviews 669 reads
posted
18 / 27
citizen59 40 Reviews 544 reads
posted
19 / 27

Choose an agency to get started.  
Ideally choose an agency that allows you to limit your hours, have meals and that clears appointments with you, that does not tell you when you have appointments - you should control if the appointments are back to back.  If possible an agency let's you set the pricing and that respects if you want to shorten your visit.
If an agency acts to intimidate and control EVERY move:  get out

DCIntroductions See Agency Profile 713 reads
posted
20 / 27

Posted By: citizen59
Choose an agency to get started.  
 Ideally choose an agency that allows you to limit your hours, have meals and that clears appointments with you, that does not tell you when you have appointments - you should control if the appointments are back to back.  If possible an agency let's you set the pricing and that respects if you want to shorten your visit.  
 If an agency acts to intimidate and control EVERY move:  get out.  
   
 
HAHA until you run an agency you shouldn't comment on it. Should we allow the model to set the split, determine how much we spend on her for advertising out of OUR money, and wipe her ass as well ? WE are responsible for making sure they stay on track...you know, those annoying times where you are kept sitting waiting in your car 15,20, 30 minutes past your original appointment time or NO showed, WE are the ones who make sure that doesn't happen. We have to get them up to start at 9 am, we have to make sure they stay on point etc etc etc. We don't control the ladies, MAKE them do anything, or keep them starved. My ladies get breaks, pick their schedule, and hours for the most part.  

The most common thing I hear from ladies "ohh I used to get booked all day at 600 700 an hour". If I was to allow the ladies to set the price point half of you guys wouldn't be my clients. I can give a pretty good assessment what a lady will be able to make and it seems to work pretty well. This whole paragraph made me laugh. You don't have the slightest clue what it takes to be an agency owner, its a LOT of work and HEADACHES. This is one reason why so many come and go.  

Sorry I generally shut my mouth but I just couldn't stay out of this one

prince-of-tides 10 Reviews 550 reads
posted
21 / 27
Grigori_Rasputin 624 reads
posted
22 / 27
BondGirl007 630 reads
posted
23 / 27

Thank you everyone for your personal opinions, I truly appreciate you helping a complete stranger! Some of you were very insightful and some of you made me laugh so thank you all!

IvyCassidy See my TER Reviews 517 reads
posted
24 / 27

That response made absolutely no sense and really just reaffirmed everything Lee said.

Grigori_Rasputin 647 reads
posted
25 / 27

"Soapbox" Lee is in the pimp business so his selfritious blather about the ethical side of pimping is comical.

citizen59 40 Reviews 554 reads
posted
26 / 27

Sorry, I think you took my advise too broadly.  It is your agency and of course you set the split.  If a Newbie insists on $600 or $700 you wouldn't hire her.  What I was suggesting more was the difference between between say $250 and $400 where the pricing works best for both of you based on the market and the menu.  

 I have heard of agencies (that have since closed) that intimated the ladies, limited their breaks and set their hours which  created long waits in the parking lot and other problems.  

You and your ladies have great reputations.  You run a processional agency and I did not mean to suggest how you should run it

Grigori_Rasputin 660 reads
posted
27 / 27

If you did not notice that I was the first to suggest to the threadstarter to go Independent and not use an agency.

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