If we all agree that everyone can make up their own mind, then why all the bitching?  Is this just another example of our culture of having big brother to make all of our decisions for us (i.e. the government taking over everything because they know better than the average stupid citizen) without ever questioning anything?

Am I not supposed to comment on things because someone else thinks differently?  

Does anyone know what a forum for ideas is all about?  How funny that in the USA there are those that would like to keep quiet the dissenters, those with points of view different from their own or the supposed majority?    

Am I to take everything at face-value?  Should one believe everything one sees or reads?  Should you believe everything I (or anyone else) says?  Should we never question anything?

Should we all believe in "Global Warming" just because a small group of people claims that "all scientist" agree regarding global warming?

Should we not be allowed to question or comment on something and allow a discussion to begin without personal attacks on someone that has a different opinion than yours?

All those who shout the loudest and most venomously against me personally are merely showing that they cannot take part in an open discussion of differing ideas (ideas different than their own).  

Are they incapable of discussing an idea, sharing their contrary view on a given topic instead of attacking the originator of the idea?

If you are going to post a comment, please stay on topic -- differing ideas in a forum -- not my personality and what you think of me.

for those about to attack me personally again - thank you for proving my point. lol

i understand your point.  i think that its more an issue of the quantity and content of the comments that perhaps offends.

but there is always the option of what i do.

if i dont like it, i just move on and read another post.  just a personal choice, as others personal choice is to comment on what they want too.

life's too short to get my panties in a wad....
oh wait, i never wear them anyways  

have a great weekend everyone

Without you we would pick on some other poor schmuck, so you are doing some else a favour, by being the target. Take pride in being a celebrity target like Kim Il Jung, or I'mAnutJob.

Didn't your rabbi warn you about the dangers of having a bris at your age!

Do you know the difference between a porcupine a 911 driver?
The porcupine has its pricks on the outside.

Typical 911 driver!

you just proved my point! way to go!

and with an alias, too.  lol

Take your recent post about Adora. Why not just ask if anybody has seen her and whether 35" is correct?  Instead you post bullshit when you've never seen her?   That's not an opinion, dude, it's an attack.

If would back up your accusations you might get a better response. Otherwise IMHO they are attacks and have no place on this board.

is pretty damned good. and criticism of Global Warming has only been serving to improve the idea. that's how science works. it isn't a matter of opinion but criticism still has a useful function.

other than that small refinement, i have no problem. you may not be the most PC or polite member of the board but i don't care about that.

i think your contributions with regard to fake and stolen pics are invaluable and hope you stick around.

PS one interesting winter in DC is not a contradiction of Global Warming. it's the trend that matters. GW as a climate trend powers more significant weather extremes.

to have a name. It's called an 'ad hominem' response, attacking the man rather than the idea. It's been used since the beginning of time against many who expressed their opinions openly & without fear of criticism. Of course, the truly great ones (Ghandi, MLK Jr, JFK, etc) didn't whine about it!

one might as well point out that "ad hominem" is fallacious and only used by folks who have no intellectual integrity AT ALL and who are incapable of thinking their way out of a wet tissue paper wrap.

it annoys the "ad hominem" types to call them on their insufficient adequacy.

you're dead wrong. i am simply pointing out that vamikey is engaging in a plausibly deniable ad hominem. that's all i intend.

but who can tell? i am not great enough to read anyone elses mind. you are not great enough to read mine.

so what's the problem?

global warming.... eventually the Greenland Ice Cap melts.

that dumps fresh water into the North Atlantic which shuts down the Gulf Stream ocean current.

the Gulf Stream warms the Eastern coast of North America and Northern Europe.

without the Gulf Stream an Ice Age ensues.

the physics and math of the situation indicates that global warming events result in ice ages as consequences.

mere logic isn't an adequate reasoning tool for this. you need to get the physics right.

you are attacking the author of the idea and not discussing the idea on its own merits. tsk. tsk.

just pointing out how easy it is for standards to slip.

clearly this guy has some sort of psychological problem (well more than most of us). His entire life circles around TER and EROS and providers.

I go to church tomorrow and lite a candle for him!

you cannot expect to be loved and appreciated, even when you are often right.

Trust me on this - I know from EXPERIENCE LOL

I do appreciate your many fake reports and etc

but you've let it get to your head.

And your calling out agencies and attacking certain providers is way over the top. Especially your consistent bias toward waifish providers - which I SHARE by the way...

I am very surprised that more of your posts are not disallowed by the mods.

You are becoming a drama vector here on the boards and we really do not need it.

Just sayin'

Get a grip on yourself...

DB911,

i have a suggestion little boy. Get up really early tomorrow morning liike 300am. Please put the summer tires on your 911.  Disable all the electronic driving aids Porsche put in your 911,  Put 7lbs more air in your rear tires then the front.  and go drive the back roads at triple digit speeds. Remember black ice is your friend.

Have a great morning.

But when that opinion involves providers whom you have never met or spoken with and frequently I might add, that calls into question the behavior.
There is no way to address this question without addressing your "personality" or posting habits because it obviously directly pertains to you and some of the discussions that you've opened recently.

I think that if you feel that you're getting the brunt of criticism (and not about your preferences either, everyone has preferences which is why so many different kinds of providers are able to stay in business year after year obviously) its probably because of the manner in which you express your ideas.

What's wrong with dropping some of the pride or ego or stubborness or whatever it is that is making you ignore comment after comment after comment about what you call "discussion" and everyone else calls "attention-seeking" or "irresponsible"?

I quit reading what db911 writes quite a while ago, I also quit listening to Rush or Beck. Lifes too short for all the hatin'

"everyone else"? seriously?  you think EVERYONE ELSE thinks the way do?  EVERYONE ELSE?

You have no idea how many dudes on here back me up with PMs.  Very few want to take the BS on the board and post a comment backing me up but a few do.  But mostly thru PMs.  

EVERYONE ELSE?  Jeezus.

Everyone else believes in global warming.

Everyone else believes the banks are why we had a financial crises.

Everyone else thinks we need universal health care.

Everyone else is jumping off the bridge.

No, not everyone else.

What's the point of asking a question if you're just going to jump down everyone's throats about the responses because we're not answering in the manner that you'd like?

Continue to make yourself a board pariah backed up only by your legions of "private messages".

Good luck!

it's tough to argue against the chart.

One is that you seem to have waaaaay too much time on your hands.  There is way more to life than scrutinising every single Eros ad that pops up in DC area. Seriously.  Hobby and Internet discussion boards are exactly what they are - HOBBY.

Also, you seem to be overly sensitive for someone who has no problems "dishing it out".

I highly doubt YOU personally are being attacked for you IDEAS.  Thank god we live in free country which allows for free exchange of ideas and freedom of expression.  But when a group of individuals or one individual tries to impose their ideals on society, we stop being being that country and become totalitarian society.

Small group of people talk about global warming? They can do it all day long, as long as they don't try to alter my life to suit their theory do I give a flying ...?  Not really.

My sister is anti fur vegetarian. Does she bitch and moan when i order steak in front of her? Noops.  She won't wear fur or leather.  Does she try to make me "see the light"? Noops.  As long as I don't try to make her wear fur she is not trying to burn mine.

Being able to acknowledge other people's opinions without trying to make then follows yours is true sign of freedom.

Notice that no one has a problem with you calling out obvious fakes?  Unfortunately you don't stop there.

"Attacks" usually begin once you start spewing venom towards ladies who for one reason or another do not conform to YOUR standards of beauty.

If nature wanted to create everyone the same .. we would have 5 billion identical twins with same IQ and preferences.

Instead we were all created in our unique shapes, colors and personalities.

Some are just more anal retentive than others

Lina (not a Waif)

...Including the person who bears the brunt of getting answers they don't like when they express an unpopular viewpoint.

Think about it.

Care to elaborate for #9 means?



Lina

He read this article and is on crusade to solve the problem!!!!!

I knew there is a reason

Lina

But textcat - maybe you should read this

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/6795858.html

Looking at the data, the numbers he assigns are to people who disagree with him.

It's the dynamic of on-line discussions boards to veer to the ad hominem and extreme. It's also part of the dynamic for people like yourself to stake out prominent positions that are more obnoxious than those of most others. That's the way it is. No reason for self righteous ranting.

Dear dddbabe - so close...

Your post is so close to what I am trying to say and I don't think you even realize it.  Maybe it is because you don't 100% believe what you are saying  -- just most of the time when it suits you.

You are correct - I am not being attacked for my ideas and that is the issue I raise.  My idea[l]s are, in general, an open forum to discuss the providers freely and not be attacked for having a contrary opinion and, specifically, that providers/agencies do not misrepresent the provider through stats or pictures.

Are you (or the mob) the judge of when it is okay for me to have an acceptable opinion and when it is not an acceptable opinion?  Do you decide when I go over the line (i.e. "Attacks")?  

Which leads me to you comment -- '"Attacks" usually begin once you start spewing venom towards ladies who for one reason or another do not conform to YOUR standards of beauty.'  My retort: I do not tell people what they can or cannot do say or who they can like or who not to like or who to fuck or not fuck.  My preferences are my own and no I do not impose them on others.  I call out the FALSE advertising of women that are TRYING to falsely conform to a younger and/or slender standard (of which I am a fan of - younger/slender) through false advertising (false numbers - age, weight, height - and altered pictures).

Ever notice that the ages are falsely brought down (except for the very young which are pulled up), the weights are falsely brought down, the pictures altered to hide a bigger size, higher weight, and/or other perceived unattractive features?  Did I tell them to do that?  I am just pointing out that they did do that.  I am fine with who they really are, what their real age is, how much they weigh, however many tattoos they have, whatever other features they have, etc. BUT do not try to trick me into thinking that they are what they are not.  It seems that my personal ideal is what they are trying to be when they falsify their stats and pictures.  Don't blame me when the provider/agency chooses to falsely conform to a standard that happens to also be my preference.

Too bad you had place your feelings for me personally out in the open.  I took away from your comments on the discussion of an idea.

it has been doing this slow temp rise ever since the last ice age.  So what?

you talk about "discussing an idea" or attacking the "author of an idea".  Maybe if you posted discussion or idea posts about the ladies you would get better responses.  

Standing on your perch and yelling "BULLSHIT" "SCAM" "FAKE" and then offering no evidence, no reasoning, no dialouge as to why you believe them to be so, is not "discussing an idea".  

Maybe if you did discuss or share ideas and opinions instead of posting things like, "Nope, no proof.  Not even going to try to find any proof.  Not gonna do any research either.  Doubt my call?  Then go find out for yourself, give her a call, drive to meet her. lol" Maybe then, your "service" would be more valuable to Hobbyists.  See here: http://tinyurl.com/yhm2u58

If you post that ads are fakes, why not post what you think is fake about each one so people can look and see and decide for themselves.

You ask: "Should we not be allowed to question or comment on something and allow a discussion to begin without personal attacks on someone that has a different opinion than yours?"

The answer is "yes", however, many of your posts are like standing in a crowded theater and yelling "FIRE!" and then saying it is on everybody else to prove you wrong. That is not helpful or constructive.

JMTC and JMHO

Actually I do realise it .. that is exactly why I said what I said.

As for that particular sentence you quoted, it took me all of 10 min to sort through the messages you posted on this site in last couple of months and find the one I had in mind.

It would have been faster but search for your posts with word "pig" in it produced way too many hits

Post I am referring to is perfect example of trying to impose individual ideals onto general population.

I have absolutely no issue with you calling false advertisement.  The issue is with inability to take critisims as good as to give it.

Lina

the rise in temperature is much faster since the onset of the industrial revolution.

the following chart covers a longer time span and illustrates your error.

Silly me was thinking I was debating, not attacking

Lina

I am surprised at all of the negative responses. More then likely you have saved plenty of guys from walking into a B&S or a bad situation.

I think the other thread where you pointed out an inaccuracy in a stat against a well reviewed provider has brought out the white knights and a few angry providers. Personally, I would not have picked on a personal stat that may have been a typo at EROS.

Nonetheless, you are fair game today because some are taking exception to your perceived attitude. Frankly, the value of your posts far, far outweigh any perceived attitude.

Keep up the good work!

If it was a typo error by eros then someone could point that out.  And if that is the case,  I merely pointed out a typo (wink, wink).

the fact that the consensus of folks who feel the data speaks to global warming laugh among themselves about those who criticize them is just an ad hominem. it isn't a technical argument.

the critics of global warming don't offer anything technical that upsets the physics of the fact: increased CO2 atmospheric concentrations (correlated neatly with increases fossil fuel use) cause the atmosphere to trap more heat. escaping that calculable conclusion is a tough job that the critics have failed to accomplish. the most the critics have accomplished is that the pro global warming argument gets better and better but the policy debate gets delayed.

i am sympathetic to the pro global warming scientists need to "blow of steam" about their opponents. many of those opponents have political or economic interests that make acknowledging the data highly inconvenient. that's my little ad hominem.

if you analyze the geopolitical consequences avoiding making policy decisions in a timely way about global warming the potential downside is much more serious than the "war on terror" but less serious than the consequences of a "small nuclear war".

so the folks who believe in global warming literally think that civilization is at stake. unlike the jihadists and holy warriors they have actual data to back them up that hasn't been explained away. i can understand their frustration.

i count myself lucky to be dead before the shit hits the fan. i pity my kids and my young friends though.

all things that are known to be temperature sensitive and whose temperature responses can be calibrated.

one of my favorite temperature measures is the ratio of isotopic abundances in the oxygen found in the calcium carbonate (

that is why there are several different temperature reconstructions way back then. the fact that they all agree that the temperature was relatively flat but with fluctuations should give the global warming "skeptics" pause.

but the "skeptics" have their own reasons for wanting to ignore the data and make snarky ad hominem remarks about "who took those temperatures" without dealing with the data. LOL!

hit enter accidentally. the link is below.

the equation of radiative transfer. it is the equation that predicts the temperatures in an atmosphere.

that the data correlates nicely indicates that the causal and predictive power of the equation of radiative transfer applies here. it would be big news if there was no correlation. then we would know that the causal principles supplied by the physics of the situation were wrong.

the "correlation does not imply causation" argument is a fallacious weaseling out of the data that the skeptics claim. its only use to them is to confuse those who do not know that the physics has been well understood for decades.

the claim that there is no global warming is an extraordinary claim that this law of physics does not apply. as an extraordinary claim it requres extraordinay evidence. none has been forthcoming.

have undoubtedly been subjected to ad hominem attacks, & you are indeed whining about it, & that's all the time & energy I'll bother to devote to your whines (& already more than they deserve!).

I dont think Im attacking you but Im sure you will, after all it seems like you suffer from paranoia of some sort. Why do you search out rip off providers daily. Look for good pussy...not bad pussy. Not all providers are out to rip you off and just because the girl in the pic needs a sandwich dosent mean she is "TGTBT"  
Some of your post are helpful BUT if you have not seen the girl and there is no SOLID proof she is a ripoff(same phone number, email addy, etc.) then keep your big mouth shut. You can ruin a providers business with 1 post calling her a fake.
Start a blog site or something so you can look out for your buddies or use the reviewers board.
Another big problem is that TER only has so many threads per page and you are bumping off important topics for your questionable rip off post.
Why get your panties in a bunch? Just lighten it up and stick to FACTS when calling out a rip off.  

I'm kind of quiet in this hobby, but have started paying more attention to what is said on this board.  I agree with a lot of BeefEater has to say.

Let me start with I don't think I know any of the gentleman who post on this board.  I appreciate each person's views, and with each post I try to assess the poster's personality (and I recognize I could be dead wrong).  So as always, each person has to assess the situation and make the decision that is right for them.  If you don't realize that each person is different and has their own motivation, I don't know what to say.

I see truth in some of what db911 posts, and I value his opinion (it took me a lot of time to realize that many of the posts were "fake").  I also recognize, however, that the people (particularly the ladies) involved in this "business" are individuals.  Since this is a business, I recognize that there may be some embellishment and factor this into my decision making.

Let me stop now, since I think most of the people on the board probably already realize this.

of intent. Difficult for someone without superpowers  like mid reading. Similarly the pointing out of an ad hominem can be a relatively dispassionate exercise free from whining.

When I was watching "An Inconvienent Truth" and the former VP was lecturing about how the inroduction of fresh water ice melt (sea ice has salt and wouldn't decreas the current salinity of the oceans) would cut off the Gulfstream, I thought that this sounded like the operation of a heat exchange system. As heat increases it triggers inflows of coolant (antifreeze, water) to reestablish thermal equlibrium. In the Earth's case this cooling cycle would allow sea ice and glaciers to return.
 There's no telling how long this would take or how gradual or volitile this process would be. While some of the evidence Al Gore presented appeared compelling, in the Earth's history it has taken meteor strikes and major volcanism to shift the climate. This is planet is a dynamic system that is capable of absobing and adjusting to human activity.

That is absolutely what you do with posts like this one:  http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=6&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&Search=8&SearchType=1&Author=db911&DayFrom=300&DayTo=0&ViewAll=1&MessageID=161412&frmSearch=1

"Everyone knows what an 8 is.

Everyone knows what an 8 is not.

Everyone knows that the rating system on TER is faulty and misused.

Everyone knows when someone else mislables an 8.

The outliers are obvious and therefor the calling out of someone else's rating and then the following justification is mute [sic]."

Unless you honestly think that other people just really love a 5 or 6, you can't have it both ways.

Otherwise, I usually like what you do, but often dislike how you do it.  I strongly believe in your right to say whatever you want, but also believe in the rights of others to tell you to shut the fuck up, since they can't actually shut you the fuck up.

but only to a degree, not absolutely.

i didn't watch Al Gore's flick since:
1) i am sure it didn't add to what i already know
2) he annoys the heck out of me

the main issue geopolitically is that global warming will cause increased competition and global stresses on the way to an ice age. BTW do you really want the mass die off that waiting for an ice age would bring?

evidence suggests that the onset of ice ages is rather swift. (Siberian mammoths muching on buttercips being suddenly frozen to death come to mind.)

if one imagines the risks to include war, possibly the use of nukes on a large scale, that would cause a net global cooling because of the dust in the atmosphere.

yes we can burn up all the carbon but the main event will likely happen before then. the US will desertify and become dependant on Canada and Russia for food.

a brave new world awaits. i will be fortunate to be dead by then. my children and granchildren may not be so lucky.