How about props to all the providers who do not bait and switch,  and those who do not field business calls during a session, and those who do not upsell for jism, and those who do not haul off and hit their clients?  It's not your fault Lavinia was having a bad week or that Lavinia's 'friend in another state' is too stupid to be able to answer her own phone.  

She waits literal months to publicly apologize and you really believe she's repented?  She just wants some of your hard earned cash as you obviously blow quite a bankroll on escorts given your prolific reviews.  

You should put this in perspective.  An apology is meaningless without repentance. That 'apology' can just as easily be translated, "Please sucker, give me the oportunity to take you once again.".

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i will NEVER EVER go back and pay her ever again!! as you said, talk is cheap, but it does take a big person to air out there dirty laundy on a public forum .and for that i give her credit

She aired no dirty laundry, only offered a litany of excuses for a few of the reprehensible actions.  Some people will actually view this apology as the actions of a big person even though it is less than the least she can do to make it up for you.  If talk is cheap than you just gave someone props for being cheap:  cause and effect.

wow my intention was not to promote but i guess that is how you look at it,i guess you have never had a really bad experiance with a provider , because you only have 3 reviews and none of them are really horrible,your very lucky. maybe your right and it is just self promotion on her part, i guess if she was really sorry she would try to make it up to me(and that has not happend) so take it for what it is, a pubic admission to horrible behavior.

Here’s what ssteveowens said when introducing his original post about a recent visit with Lavinia back on 9/1/2006:

“o sure she still fucked me silly BUT…” (BTW I think that’s one of the all time great quotes…).  

He also made a comment specifically for her at the end of his post:

“i hope you read this girl because you can still be one of the best but last night your attitude sucked!!!”

HOF is certainly correct in that this sort of behavior is inexcusable and that ‘props’ should go to all the providers out there who don’t bait and switch, field calls during appointments, up-sell or hit their clients.  Reporting such behavior is also what this board is all about.  This forum is also about exchanging and discussing information that, for whatever reasons, cannot usually be covered in the format of a review (or replacement review).  Providers can learn from reviews and this forum too and the good ones (i.e. the professional ones) certainly will look objectively at all this information as feedback on their performance and services.  

Since the incident reported by ssteveowens, vwjetta has reported a favorable visit with Lavinia.  Unfortunately there have been no new formal reviews on Lavinia since that time.  In addition to taking away much useful information I have enjoyed reading all the recent Lavinia threads immensely .  Many thanks to all of our contributors, newbies and veterans alike…

Regards,

TS Tempted


P.S.  Thanks to ssteveowens for making me look up his use of the term ‘props’.  I’d seen it before and its meaning was always clear from the context but now I much better understand where it comes from and its usage:  props (noun) - proper respect - "I have to give my props to the governor for the way he handled the problem"

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One girl and I spent the evening 'out'.  After time at the bar and dinner on my card we began the walk back to her hotel.  She kept trying to get me to put my arm around her as we walked.  She then asked me, "When is the last time you cum?".  I said "3 days ago.'.  She replied, "Good.  You will cum fast then go home.", as she grasped my hand.  I pulled my hand away violently.  This was after 2 days of her calling me telling me things like, "I want you dick in my mouth...mmmmmm."  She asked me not to cum also because according to her, "She wants me really horny so she can fuck me a looooong time.".  I would see this girl fairly regularly.  That night she increased her price $100, asked me to pay upfront.  I acqueisced because I had seen her many times before and was getting a 'night out' plus for that price supposedly and I rationalized that she wanted the cash upfront to ensure I didn't walk away payment free if I found another tranny at the local tranny bar where our evening started.
 At her hotel she seemed genuinely dismayed that I had no interest in her fucking me or really even touching me.  When I finished showering she launched into a sermon describing how the evening disaster was entirely my fault, how I'm so controling,  I told her I had a terrible time and there wont be a next time.  She promised me 'ass on credit':  next visit to Boston it would be free of charge.  I doubt the credit will ever take place though.

An event out with an escort (before or after) BCD can be a great thing and certainly adds to the total experience.  However, besides the often obvious significant age difference, which will probably attract attention anyway, public displays of affection (PDA’s) can certainly be a big turn off because they are much more problematic than just being seen out with someone (particularly in your own backyard - LOL)!  Usually when I hear about such PDA experiences it can be attributed to the escort’s inexperience with ‘dates’ outside BCD.

As we all know time is money and spending time outside of BCD has a significant opportunity cost for the provider.  Generally there is an expectation that such time should also be compensated, according to the circumstances and as appropriate.  It always helps to have this understood up front.  Misalignment of expectations is almost always a recipe for disaster.  That having been said, a provider asking for abstention several days prior to the appointment would seem like a very good sign and would certainly raise my expectations indeed!

Escorting is a ‘performance’ art form and can extend well beyond BCD with websites, emails, phone calls and even other time outside BCD.  Any additional investment outside of BCD should have its rewards as well.  An experienced escort should know that they are also ‘on’ when they are with a client outside of BCD and should also know how to provide a great experience (performance) in both venues.  I am sorry for your disappointment HOF, but one thing I am sure of is that you will keep trying.  As you seem to know and I would agree, there is much more to this hobby than just BCD .

Take care,

TS Tempted

Happy New Year all!!

I guess I look at this a little differently.  There is no excuse for a bad experience, but everybody has a bad day and IMO deserves a second chance.  From what I have read lavinia has on a regular basis provided a very positive experience with a few exceptions.  I take prode in my work and believe that I generally take great care of my customers, but everyone has a bad day.  I find the apology honorable and believe that it was from the heart, there is nothing else that Lavinia can do except learn from the mistake.  I would not hesitate to see her over this.  Best wishes to all!

I'm probably younger than many guys in the hobby and look like a trendy hipster, so the age difference isn't obvious to outsiders.  I liked the PDA.  It only served to set my expectations higher, though.  When she dropped the line, "... cum fast and go home."  it just turned me off so much that I couldn't get into the sex afterwards.


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HOF:

Sorry, I misunderstood about the PDA’s, they would probably bother many, so I thought they might be bothering you too (since they don’t, lucky you!).  Certainly if the comment about getting it over fast and going home wasn’t meant as a joke it would be pretty debilitating…

Unfortunately there seems to be a lot more ‘attitude’ involved with the TS hobby – see TS Alter Ego’s thread above (for the HTML challenged there is the related link below).  Fortunately there are boards like this one and posters like you that can help us to discriminate between the various ‘attitudes’.

Take care,

TS Tempted

Because I'm still in the closet (LOL) I would never PDA with a TS who wasnt ultra-passable.  On the other hand, I have a UTR ATF who is indeed ultra-passable, and I PDA with her all the time against my better judgment (i.e., risk of being busted by SO or her friends).  Then again, there's just something about leaning over to your GF in your car and putting your hand on her pants and feeling her hard . . . .

... the rug.  You're just the type of sucker this apology is aimed at.  ssteveowens post did exactly what I predicted and only served to raise Lavinia in the eyes of some board members.  She smacks a customer, upsells him, and manages to use it to enhance her image on this board.  You ever hit one of your customers?  Let Lavinia have a 'bad day' upside someone elses head and on someone elses paycheck.

 There is something else she can do aside from apologize:  1)never do it in the first place or 2)  Give him his money back and a free session.  That resolution seems more sincere and heart felt to me.

i think h.o.f is right about this, she as of today has NOT offered to make anything up to me,have a bad meal at a fine restaurant, what do they do? they make it right! give you the meal on the house. any other service business if they dont do the job right what happens? they fix the problem at no cost to the customer!but i guess that she is not so sorry that she is willing to some how make it up to me, just sorry enough to tell me that she is sorry!

I totally agree with you.  It's was big of her to apologize albeit months later, but I'm glad you won't do business with her again.  The motivation behind her apology is suspect.

Steve, since you have already stated you would never see her again she understandably isn't offering you a free session because you said you dont want one.

By the way I would be willing to do my part to help here by aceping a free session with her in your place.

if she would offer a session to make up for the horrible one i would consider it . that way i would belive that she really does fell sorry for hurting me and taking $450.00 from me. it would be a start.