First off, Love Goddess, and others, I want to thank you all for your input and help.

I will try to keep this brief, picking up where it was last posted, I did in fact see this provider again, at which time, she communicated her feelings of love and affection for me.
I stated that the money issue should be put aside?
She balked, and then went silent on me.
I then reapproached her, and said I know that its all a game, I was not upset, and indicated, that I once again, I desired to drop the emotional stuff, as  I reminded her, that no matter, as long as there was an exchange of money, I was a Client, she was a provider, and the date was about
ME! And whatever I shared emotionally with her, was at my chosing. As well, I stated that if she was unwilling to accept these terms, then I intended to walk away. ( this was all communicated with respect and kindness )

So what followed was a reply email, in which was so vile, so full of hostility, and comtempt, that I did not bother to complete reading the entire text, and instead deleted it.

Then I went on with life, but received several prank phone calls, (I have no way of proving whom
was behind these calls,)
One call was from a mental health facitiy, others
were calls in which the number could not be recorded.

I received some inquires from hobbiests, asking just whom it was that I was having the dispute.
It was asked if it was ######### name deleted,
and I stated no, not her nor her.
I made the decision to post on the local board,
to save the innocent providers from any fall out.
In doing so, I still left out the name of the provider of which I had the dispute.

I explained how and why I reached my decision to
no longer see this provider, as she refused to take no for an answer, I am guessing that the provider posted under a different alias, and began to shout me down, and otherwise, heckle, and discredit me.

This went back and forth between me and the alias
poster, as I attempted to justify my concerns and
actions, and then I just backed off from further posting.

Well, further posts by me on the board were followed by posts from still yet another alias,
who heckled me, and taunted me. I ignored the taunts.

I finally got tired of the bully treatment, and
mildly directed a few questions at said provider,
about her feelings toward Karma.

What happened in her reply, was a direct attack upon me once again.
I replied in the tread, that she should re read her words and apply them to herself, like looking
in the mirror at herself.

Then I ignored any further replies by her.

In her replies, she has pretty much turned everything around, making it appear as if i am  a stalker, loose cannon, and she is the victim of unwanted avances by me? LOL

If you all remember, it was SHE who constantly asked me to call her, Ask her for dates, and so forth.
I smell set up from the word go.

So now, it appears that I am an untouchable,
As my attempts to contact and get time with other
providers, goes unanswered.
I know of the exsistance of a provider black list,
and it would not surprise me that I have been entered onto this list as well.

So Love Goddess, after all of this, I am all eyes
on your reply, as well as others.
I am a kind and caring person, I don't look for fights, or conflict, nor do I desire to hurt or
bully others.
Is it time for me to move on from the hobby?
Or should I attempt to clear my name? In doing so
would mean, futhrer conflict with said provider.

And lastly, why? I feel as if I have been targeted
by her, and maybe a few other providers?

Its weird, but I feel somewhat a great sigh of
relief, and peace in mind, in spite of all the drama. As well, I would like everyone to know, that in spite of her crossing my boundaires so many times, I held out the olive branch.
Each time, I was hit with a slap on the face, and more comtempt, hostility, and condensending attitude. So I Walked, but even in walking,
she was making sure, to follow and continue to take a stick and stir the beehive.
An old proverb, Individual who insert sticks into
behive, and disturb bees, Get Stung! LOL

Thanks
Trooper2

-- Modified on 9/9/2007 2:25:28 PM

L.G. If you mean that I take this as a lesson in
how deceitful, and angry and indifferent that many
of these individuals can be, Yep, I have learned.
Maybe a better way of viewing it, without the desire to come off as condensending, is that there are a lot of people who are so much more emotionally needy than I? or emotionally unware of self?


Thanks for the input, as well, maybe I can hang around the board, and offer some insight from time to time.

-- Modified on 9/9/2007 3:21:37 PM

Yo T2,

Friggin move on.  In the "literature" your object of affection is referred to as a "siren".  I personally have learned, with the assistance of LG and others, there are those who would prefer to gaff you, play you for everything you have, then leave you bleeding.  Taking the high road is the "ethical" thing to do, but remember there is nothing ethical about the hobby - and the sooner you realize this the better off you are.  

Do your screening, keep within your own boundaries, and if the ladies give you compliments, just keep on truckin'.  As LG would say "if they want to take you off the clock, they will let you know".

I say proceed onward.  See more ladies.  It's good for the male soul.

Best,

BS

Thanks B.S. As you can see, I did in fact cut and
run, although its a moot point now.
I really enjoyed the sex with her, as well I accepted that it was going to cost me money, the issue was, her need to control, and manipulate.
I had set boundaires, and stood my ground, she got
fustrated that she was not able to break me.
She was all game, and (smile) she attempted many angles, but I blocked her every attempt.
I finally got tired of fending her off, and said look, just let me do my thing, you get your fee,
and everyone is happy? but nope, she needed to keep up the mental and emotional control game.

So I said see ya and made my way to the door,
well she was madder than hell, because she was unable to bust me open, so she pretty much kicked in her last resort, and that was to seal me off from access to the other providers, by way of her
posts, and back channel slander? And even as far
as a black list?

So Big, you see, She thought that she was going to own airborne daddy, she was attempting to do her pimp thing on me, thinking that she was gonna make me her mule, But mules kick when angry, and  I kept saying NO Go!

What she failed to see, is that I am a strong character, and deep in emotional awareness,
I know me, and I could see her as well. I did need
some other pairs of eyes to verify what I was indeed seeing, and other members lent me their
insight, and so I hit door yelling Airborne!
But I failed to see that the aircraft was not yet
Airborne, so it was a short jump, with a bad PLF.

But I am chuted up and ready to go again.
Now where are those other lovely ladies?
My humble thanks to all.
Trooper2

-- Modified on 9/9/2007 6:32:10 PM

Trooper, it's good that you have cut the chord, but have you really?  From yourlong, self-justifying posts, you give the impression that you keep coming back for more punishment, instead of cutting off totally as you should have done at the very beginning of this saga.  I diasagree with Big Splooge when he says there are no ethics in the hobby, but he's right on target with the rest of his comments.  Good luck, and stop wandering into trouble that you yourself appear to have invited.

Your point is well taken! Thanks again for sharing
your insights. As far as ehtics, well their is a select group in the hobby who have some ethics, and all the rest are just posers. Just like out in civie land. After some learning some more self
awareness, I will be better at seeing through the haze?
T2

I even made my husband pay for sex, in one way or another... Feelings have nothing to do with sex, and should never be used as an ultimatum to force a provider to see you for free. Geez, and you wonder why you cry the same story over and over??? Did it ever occur to you that you were partly to blame for your own actions and role in each of the situations with these allegedly psycho women? Nothing about your stories rings true, to me. I think you are in serious denial and need to seriously and honestly evaluate your role in the lives of each woman you complain about.

"Poor me" only works for so long before you start to sound like the psycho in each situation. Just an honest opinion from a long-term provider who has heard the same sad tales from clients with whom I would never dream of booking a second date... For obvious reasons.

LOL I hate to be rude, but you dear provider are taking a bash at me without knowing the full facts.
I did not post here to write a book, just to understand what I had gotten myself into?
I hate to break it to you, but I never asked her for FREE SEX, rather I offered to compensate her in some other manner once she began to state her profound love for me.
But thanks for reading into my posts and attempting to set me as guilty of something.
As far as taking advice, or guidence, I think that I will stick to listening to those who are accredited, and  knowledgeable, As I have done in the past and am doing in the present.

Believe me, I am a fair minded person, but I cannot even begin to understand individuals who are affected with personality disorders. Have you taken the time to read up on the possible disorder
of this individual? To see that no matter what,
You or I could never be correct in her eyes.
After all its all about her, and her needs,
There is no compromise, and you or I, our boundaries do not matter what so ever.

As well, thanks for sharing, and stating your
opinion, but unless you know the full story, its
better that you listen and learn. for the fact is,
That because I come from a less than normal upbringing, I have had to readjust and learn from my mistakes, Never have I stated complete a lack
of accountabilty, I am responsible to a degree,
because I did not recongize her baggage, until
it began to affect me in a negative manner.
But Hey, I am learning, Check into borderline personality disorder, or the others that L.G. bought to light.
I am a average troop, in that I have not been educated in the human mind, but when I see some unusual behavior, and I care about that person, I at least try to understand. So I was responsible
in that I was unaware. What's your excuse for your lack of awareness or knowledge?

-- Modified on 10/20/2007 9:59:31 PM

-- Modified on 10/20/2007 10:05:32 PM

Debbie, I understand your fear of strong men like
me, and I am disappointed that you have to employ
anger and defiance to cover up what you may be lacking inside emotionallly. I hope that you seek help for your issues.

And Day, nice try at humor, but maybe you should apply your dime store knowledge where it will do some good, at some comdey club, where the paying crowd can have a laugh at you the lost comic.
LOL

With a little more awarness, you may even figure
out what your baggage is. LOL
Its been fun to consult with an accredited source
of knowledge, and find out what makes some of you
act as you do. Now its my turn to laugh as well
as I now understand the real joke, and it is not me. LOL

Hobby on, but watch those bumps in the road.

While I understand what Itgirl is saying, I was upset with her appoach toward this issue, for truly, she is commenting on a subject on which she
is not fully informed, There is no poor me attitude here, rather, a believe me, I paid for sex in my past marriage, dearly! I left because the other half did not keep her end of the bargain.

I have always upheld my end! no bull, and I expect the same of my partner, Its a relationship, and if both people build out from a stong foundation, then the bridge is less likey to collaspe in the middle, I am a man, not Atlas.

So back to the issue of paying, I had made an offer, for compromise, in the payment department, and she flat out refused to even consider my request. I view relationships as business, as well, In that I am a partner in something greater, and while I would never say that this partner was not worth it, I do desire for her to see my own need to feel worthy and accepted in the relationship, as I have needs and wants as well. I don't feel as if I am an emotional bully or blackmailer, but I felt forced into taking a position in which I had to play power struggle, in order to keep some sense of fairness in place.
I think that this is where my partners feel that I abused my power, and thus projected this at them.

I feel that same way myself, in that my fear was that she would overpower me, (she is a strong woman) and thus take complete control of the terms, and make me to her, If I am going to be a slave, then at least I desire to find a loving and fair master, who gives to me as much as they would give to Herself.

We all have fears, and needs, I tried to talk my way around her mask, and address her emotional person, from my emotional person, Our Masks were
getting in the way so much, that we have not been
able to really speak to each other directly, person to person. I understand a bit better now, because she has been very direct in pointing out her concerns in a very astute manner.
WE should be careful, and take this as a cautionary tale, as we both are very much alike, in so many respects. If this were to go forward,
then we both have to do a better job of communication, and understanding each other fears
and needs. This is where feelings and fairness come into play.
I think that the woman of my affections is warning me, Don't fuck with me! I hear loud and clear, and as well, I am pretty much saying the same to her, Don't mess with me,and I promise not to mess with you!
Put aside the power playing, and let it be known
that we both are very serious individuals, when it comes to matters of the heart, because I will be the first to admit, that emotional wounds are much harder to heal, as to opposed the physical wound. I am begining to understand her fears better, as our way of communication forces us to
deal, person to person, with very few masks to get in the way. Now about the next date? :0

I don't take this warning lightly, as I know all to well, that I am dealing with a VERY intelligent person. I hope that she realizes the same in me. We are beautiful minds!
That is another reason for my attraction to her

What I would like for you to understand about all of these prior threads, is to not pay to much atttention to what I said.
At the time, I was very upset, and in some pretty deep emotional pain. It was me in effect, attempting to mask my pain, and anger, to misdirect you away from my buttons (fears)

Now in these more recent posts, I am more calm,
and rather than speaking from my mask, I am speaking from my person to your person.
I am not to keen on letting everyone know about my person, but if this is what it takes to help us, and then so be it. Just be aware, that even for me, there is a limit to what I will share here. I want my person to share with your person, and without all the masks getting in the way.
Let the sun shine in, and feel the warmth that we
can generate together! :0


I have been told, that the only thing that you have to fear, is fear it self, Ha, back in the day
when I was jumping out of perfectly good airplanes, 351 jumps in all, I was scared each and
every time! LOL and now even more so! LOL
Cause I am less a fool? or just not as gun ho!

But the fact is, in dropping our masks, and facing our fears, often results in realizing that
we really have nothing to fear after all.
I want to thank you for allowing me, to know you better, and for helping me understand.
I appreciate you, and as you already know how I feel about you! so no further words need to be spoken here at this time.

When you and I drop masks, it allows us to speak directly from one person to another, and begins to build trust, understanding, and less need to wear masks in each others presence.
I am not predatory, you know my one BIG fear, and I am not to deeply fearful, that I have a vaccum cleaner effect? At least I don't think I have this effect? You would know, as you see me better than I see myself? I tried to hide it on you, but you discovered it, and that made me run away, and then you felt abused. Sorry for that, and thanks for talking to me about this.
Keep your head up! and we will get through this.
:0


-- Modified on 11/28/2007 1:34:08 PM

I think that I have reached that boundary, where if this is to continue, then another venue is now required. I guess the ball is in your court.
If you desire to continue then you have to find a way to express yourself. Maybe you could create an
yahoo email account, that is unknown to me, and then when you sent an email, you could enter in the subject field, about the three words, that I had said to a friend when I messed her hair up.
Remember? Hey I _ _ _ _ _ _t! LOL this way I know to answer and reply.
That way you can retain the person hidden, and yet express yourself more. I would contact your mask, but I feel that I would be rejected for doing so.

Otherwise, the time has come for me to leave this place, thanks and best wishes! hugs and kisses
Friend!
T2

Please Don't think that I am playing with you.
I am sincere in my request. Remember we are very alike, so you know how I am feeling. I believe that my fears are very closely identical to yours.
This is no game to me, but I am rewarded if we share. How about you? Are you sincere?
I am fearful of the game, at times I am afraid  of you, and I want to go hide so I don't get hurt. I feel like you want to hurt me. I feel like running away again. But I need something from you!

I am fustrated, as I feel that you get to hide and stay safe, and are asking me to stand out in the open alone.
You too, shall be rewarded as I value you and I desire that you are rewarded.
I am somewhat confused now, by the direction that
you wish to go? and I sincerely want understand. I can only continue to acknowledge you, as you do for me at this time. Its Fair to both of us.
Hugs and kisses, I L_ _ _ you.  

PLEASE!

Again, I am closing the thread, contact me directly, if you wish to continue to share or comment. Otherwise, I can only conclude, that you have nothing else to add? In a polite way, I am saying put your money up front!

Wishing you the best!
Luv
T2

Hey YOU! YOU said you understood!
Well, Let me spell it out, YOU can keep up your front! but I see the real you!
I want to talk to you! Its worth a shot! Can I contact you to see you? or email you? without you taking any cheap shots?
We know about each other, that is why we are attracted to each other.
Yes, its true, Its partly my responsibility,
But its yours too!
I stepped back, to deal with ME, and let you deal
with you.
I am better aware now.
Now its time for us to iron out the who, why, where, what and when.
Care to continue?
Take Care!
Hugs and kisses
T2


Luv
T2

-- Modified on 12/3/2007 11:57:23 AM

-- Modified on 12/4/2007 4:23:00 AM

I seen it thru to the end, I have to say, that I am glad that I gave it my best.
You are an abuser, and a very crafty one at that.
But I know who you are, and I have read books about you. I was once like you as well. I got help
and got mentally and emotionally healthy.

You felt that you needed revenge, well to bad, you took still yet another air shot, and that was
your last shot! Some day, you may realize just what you had, and lost. ME.
Hey, You Know I LOVE YOU! Really!

T2

-- Modified on 12/6/2007 8:00:09 PM

I seen it thru, to the END.
Now, Like I said, Put your money where your mouth is! I have proven myself, Now the ball is in your court! Don't think that I am going to hold my breath waiting though. Its like this, WOW she has all those moves! She can really dance! But can she SING?
I can walk and talk, and chew bubble gum all at the same time. and SING too! How about YOU?

YOU know I LOVE YOU "REALLY
If I did not, you would not have had all this attention up to now.

Trooper

-- Modified on 12/8/2007 4:07:55 AM

Hey, I need you to contact ME! I have to stay safe
because I am afraid of angry people,Remember to take care of yourself, YOU  are so worth it! Just like ME! "even if I am different"?
What is normal? who decides what is right for me?
or wrong for YOU? Try to Stay positive, the pain lessens, or goes away. I am going back into therapy to deal with the negative about me.

You know I LOVE YOU
Trooper/you know who!

-- Modified on 12/10/2007 3:31:04 AM

Honey, its OK, You can Cut and Run, You owe me nothing, and I owe you nothing.
I cannot take the lead and contact you, as it appears that you may want to take still yet, another shot at me? Thanks but I will pass on that
idea. I am glad that you can accept your own neediness, instead of placing all the blame on me, There is no fault with wanting or needing someone, after all we are only human.
The problem occurs when we hide it. Or take avanatage of someone else unfairly.
Thus, you know I love you! and its ok for me to feel this way as long as I accept that it is my feeling alone, and not impose or force it upon you. You have Won, because you have taken ownership of your feelings. Great Work!
Don't park yourself in a go no where spot!
Keep Growing! You are so worth it!
As well, you now have a greater awareness, and acceptace of self. You truly are beautiful!



Trooper/ you know who

-- Modified on 12/11/2007 7:59:25 PM

OK, once again, I am doing my part!
The Ball is in your court!
Don't BLOW IT! or otherwise, I will consider this
as THE END!
I am putting forth my best, Now you put forth your best! I will be waiting.

Love always!
I hope that you can realize can realize your responsibility in the cycle, and get the necessary help. I know mine, and in the blink of an eye, I am fixed, by walking away.


Trooper2/ you know who!

My request is still open, its the best I can do,
But I will have to close the door eventually, I do wish you a happy holidays!
One door closes, and another one opens. What door will you chose?
You should know, that I desire to see you in a happy and postive place, but that is your decision, just as I am in charge of the choices
that I make, and where it leads me.
Thank you for sharing!

Love Always! Your friend!
Trooper2/W

I guess I am going to have to move on then, as there is nothing positive here for me, like acceptance, and love.
But Just the same, Merry Christmas! and best wishes to you! Take Care.

Trooper/W
Don't know, How I Feel? Those three words say to much, but then again they don't say enough.

Merry Christmas! EOM

First off, I want you to remember, I too have flaws, I accept my flaws.
I am not a angry person, Not a taker! And not insensitve towards others pain.
So keeping this in mind, I felt your pain, I seen your need, They are YOUR PROBLEMS!
Do I love you? You know I do. But that does not translate into, You can use me as your doormat!

I was willing to be supportive of you, Not support you.
As for my statement, "I did not like her personality?" Well let me break it down, As I have stated, there are many wonderful attributes about you, But in your flaws, your personality, there is
your tendency or need, to control others, in which you beat up emotionally upon other individuals, Remember, you are always Right!
Not in my world, because in my world, not only am
I flawed, But EVERYONE is flawed! this includes YOU as well. So What I am really saying, " I do not like some of your behaviors"

So while I can and do face up to my flaws, it puts me at a disadvanatage, in dealing with you,
because you refuse be open about your flaws,
Thus, I cannot be supportive of you or allow you to be to close to me, because you see yourself as
perfect, to hide your flaws, you deceive, distort,
and misdirect, attempt to discredit others,
and play upon others vulnerablities.

So I always have to be on guard around you,
and that makes for drama, which I do not desire.
You see, its like this, I love you, and I accept you totally, But what good is this, if you refuse
to gain a better sense of self awareness of you?

You have stated your love to me, but never in the presence of others, you are always in the shadows,
and always covering your tracks, so that no one
can pin you down, or peg you, so that they can hold you accountable for your words and actions.

Well, That is where you are fooling yourself,
Because many others can see you, and because of your tendency, to bullshit, they know better than
to give you creditability.
In any game you play with me, you lose, because
I already know, that your words are nothing but
empty gestures. Actions speak louder than words!
What have your actions been?

As always, I am REAL! I put my money where my mouth is! and this is why it was so important to me, to learn about you!
If you ever want me, then expect to put your money where your mouth is, only then, will I put my money where my mouth is. Fair is fair.

As for Sex, well, you are a provider by choice,
and a great GFE at that! So why should I
feel guilty, in my desire to have sex with you?
Minus the emotional commitment.

I cannot give you both, you can have one or the other, or none. But never will you have your cake and eat it too, unless I get my cake and eat it too!

Pretty simple huh? You put out, and I put out.
But remember, whatever you put out, its stays out
because I have to do the same.

Well its all past now, because its time for me to go.
Merry Christmas!


Trooper

-- Modified on 12/24/2007 3:51:28 PM

Just as I had been leading up to in my posts,
I set a date, and yes dear, its time for me to make my way to a more stable, and happier life.
this is a bit of a big step for me, Thanks for
holding my hand while I build up the courage to make the leap.
I wish that I could promise you, that if you were to heal your issues, that you are welcome back,
I cannot totally extend that to you, after all
its about me, I am leading the way, for ME.


So good luck and best wishes to you from my very
warm and kind heart. Love ya always.

W/Trooper

Don't know what else to say, or do, or how I should feel? I am not all that, I am just ME.
Love me or hate me, but I am still ME. its all that I have, and its all that I will ever be.
ME!

I promise you, that I will get your rocks off
before I get off.
That's fair right?

-- Modified on 1/1/2008 4:32:51 PM

With a big smile! Thanks for the laughs. But really, I would much rather fuck, than play this
child like game with you.

borderline personality disorder? it does not apply to either one of us,
But your anger, leads me to think that you are somewhat a narcissic babe for sure. I don't know why you are angry, but why don't you try to deal with it, by beating up on a punching bag, or maybe even LAUGH!

-- Modified on 1/11/2008 3:47:45 AM

Me? Angry? Nah, sad though, sad because I want to be with you, but on more favorable terms for me.
And I just am not seeing it, so oh well, what to do from here? Well take care of me, and hope that i meet someone, who is as beautiful, intelligent,
and sexy as you! but able to be fair, and loving,
and willing to share.

Heck, I even was hoping that we could go back to square one, and have a professional relationship,
Ya know, just Sex, and have fun! but I don't see that any effort is put forth on your part to allow that to happen as well. So like I said,
Now What?
I am truly between a rock and a hard place, when I would rather be between your silky legs. (smile)
So as a survivor, I tend to desire to stay positive, and work for a better deal for myself.
If its not possible, then I owe it to myself to look else where for what I want. So, I am giving up on the idea of us. but not on me. Life goes on.


-- Modified on 1/12/2008 2:10:57 PM

Itgirl, the facts are, that I did take a long look
at my actions, and it was because I corrected my actions, in order to have personal happiess, I got beat up on by my ex wife, because SHE did not want to look at her actions, and change or compromise.
So I divorced her, when I married, I was in fact emotionally out of balance, and during the course of the marriage, I became more balanced, which put stress on the relationship. Its a long story, but the provider whom I want, well she knows somewhat about the price I paid.

It was because of that marriage, and divorce, that I became fearful of relationships, because I
put my heart out there every day for 22 years, and got little return on my investment.

Would I dare to ask S/R to marry me?
Yes, if we are able to estabish a trusting foundation, with good comflict resolution, and mutual understanding, then in spite of our differences, Yes, I would venture to ask her to be with me.

Would I take care of her? sure, as long as she does her part, and sees to my needs also.
The fact is, there is no such thing as free sex,
We all, men and women alike pay, in one way or another.
And feelings have everything to do with a relationship, perhaps, that is why you are now alone itgirl, because maybe, you failed to see to his needs, such as you put yourself above him?
Well whatever, I don't have an answer for your failed relationships. And as it is, I have never given up hope to have a loving relationship,
I am only human, and I made mistakes, due to fears
and misunderstandings?
So you see, I have never claimed to be perfect or innocent of anything, It was the ladies who refused to accept responsibility for there actions
and what not,
Now I have met one, who at least is trying to come to terms with me, and that is why I am here.
I Want Her! But WE both have to be on the same page. I hope we can do it!

I want you! I have made up my mind, now it is just a matter of you making up your mind.
No fair! one foot in and one out! But then again taht is what I had been doing.

Give US a chance! I was being afraid and negative,
and that surely must have turned you off.
But now I am allowing myself to be positive,
and so
I WANT YOU!
We just have to get on the same page if possible.
I am invested in the idea of you and I.
Lets try, and work for happiness, and more solid
foudation with which to build upon.

Please be patient, I don't want to rush in and have you run away. I want YOU!

Honey, I would like for you to grasp, that this is NO game, I am not afraid to make a commitment
to a relationship, and I invite you to ponder just what you desire as well.

I am thinking legal commitment.
I learned a lesson long ago, to not play house,
so if you really do desire this, and yes the structure that comes with it, then work with me. We can date, and get better
aquainted, don't worry, no free sex, and then make it all happen if this is what we desire.

Otherwise, if you cannot be serious,         Leave me alone!

I want you, and I am prepared to go all the way.
But just be aware, that I intend to have a say in our relationship, and what happens with us.
I will not allow you to have total control or power over our affairs.
I will do my part, and protect and serve you, but this means you have to do the same for me.
Its a two way street. Hold up your end of the bargain, and I promise you that I will do the same.  

So let us get down to the business at hand, or
go our separate ways in peace.

Warren

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Shawna, About Ouch that Hurts!
I expect complete honesty between us, while it was only little white lies, they were false statements none the less, and in my eyes totally uncalled for.

As well, you deceived me, by urging me to contact you, which I did in good faith, only to be jerked around.
So if you are lacking creditability, Change it!
My proposal to you, is Real. There is nothing false about it, you can bank on it.

I am a stand up guy, I take my creditability serious, so that others, as well as myself, know
that I am good for it.
You shall have to be good for it as well.
I will not accept anything less from you, nor should you expect anything less from me.

So take some time, thing about it, and then give
me your answer. Person to Person!
Keep in mind, I am going to hold you to the same standards as I hold myself to. By the way, I am not a white knight! Just a stand up guy,
looking for a stand up girl.

I won't waste your time, don't waste my time as well. This is the begining, or its the end.

Kisses
Warren



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Fair is Fair, If I misrepresented myself in any manner, I will thank you for your attention  for making this known to me, I apologize for any misrepresentation of the truth.

I offered, what I thought was a honest and fair
explantion to you, in regard to the statements
that I have made here, as well as any other contact that I have had with you.

My creditability means alot to me, so if I am wrong, then you can count on it, that I have taken the necessary measures to correct my errors.
Now, how about you?
Its easy for you to see the speck in my eye,
while you ignore the log stuck in your eye.
Thanks for making me a better individual, now can
you take a better look in the mirror as well. Account for yourself, just as you expect of me.

Love
Warren

I know its what you want, otherwise, you would not be here.
You women have a way of getting what you want without speaking a word?
So its time to answer,
I accept whatever your answer may be. but I would like for you to be sure, because I am going to hold you to it, just as I expect for you to hold me to it.
Its important to me, that we have peace between
us no matter your answer.

Warren

We both change, I am not afraid to change and
be yours, How about you?

Yep. its called creditability, Not word play, nor slinging mud, or whining about long ago events.
Nor hiding behind facades, while pestering and antagonizing somebody.
So. spoiled insecure, Loud mouth, Brat, You know what to do.
Are you big enough, and brave enough to meet half way ?

Posted By: Trooper2

I seen it thru, to the END.
Now, Like I said, Put your money where your mouth is! I have proven myself, Now the ball is in your court! Don't think that I am going to hold my breath waiting though. Its like this, WOW she has all those moves! She can really dance! But can she SING?
I can walk and talk, and chew bubble gum all at the same time. and SING too! How about YOU?

YOU know I LOVE YOU "REALLY
If I did not, you would not have had all this attention up to now.  

Trooper

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Thanks to the L.G. and advice from so many others, while I was once in a state of confusion, over all the crap getting hurled around that had been instigated by none other than the subject, of whom I attempted to identify and expose in the thread. I sustained some damage to my reputation as a results.