We all seem to get the fact that this is a business, but she doesn't
Please don't tell me that this is a "I've fallen for a hobbyist and I can't get up" post from a hooker who wants "true love" and still wants to get paid as well
You meet a provider and hit it off. I mean, it's one of the best fucking appointments of your life!
You decide to write a review.
Would you feel dissapointed to read that someone else just wrote the exact same experience that you had? Does it make you second guess the connection you and the provider had if someone else feels the exact same way you do? And if so, would it make any difference if another guy posted his review BEFORE or AFTER yours?
Discuss.
If someone else has the same experience, no surprise. That shows the girl is consistent.
The only time order of reviews matters [to me] is if it is her first review, which sets the profile
We are talking about your ATF.
You just had a crazy fucking time with her, then you read a review of another dude who wrote blow by blow just about the exact session you just had with her. This has got to bother you a little. I have a follow up question if someone can admit to feeling a little weird in this situation.
There are a lot of guys here who believe a GFE is the beginning of finding a real GF, these guys set themselves up for a fall and I can imagine they are crushed to find out that the woman who just rocked their world was only performing a service, but doing it really, really well.
You guys are too damn professional about all this! Where's Rod Tidwell? Maybe I should've just PMed him lo
and still do your job to the upmost,
All you have to do is stop taking his money. That's all the proof I have ever needed. The last active provider I dated used to get great reviews, and quite frankly she would do even MORE with them than with me. but her job was all an act. I got the real thing. and like every woman here at least already knows the real thing can be very different than the fantasy.
To make a long story short, every time the green eyed monster would rear it's ugly head I would remind myself that she came home every night to me of her own free will and that she wasn't with me for the money because I didn't give her any. Well no more than any other BF/GF situation.
Maybe this is the answer you are looking for???
and yes I am sure Turdy believes that every woman he is with thinks he's "special" ah the arrogance (and foolishness) of youth.
So basically, the only way to prove to this client that he is special is to not charge him, give him OTC time, or bareback Greek. Lol.
I am not really interested in any of these, but I do appreciate your input. Sometimes just getting your thoughts out there helps to figure things out.
If you're talking about "special", and not just doing special sexual things...
I had a provider send me one of her professionally-done photos, an outtake that didn't make it to her website. Sexy as all hell, showing her beautiful boobs, and clearly showing her face. She gave me her real cell number, which I never called. She's very protective of her identity, so I took these as signs that she trusted me more than the average schmoe. Either that or she's an idiot.
I got to see her in her casual clothes without makeup. She'd send texts to me just to say "hi". Maybe she texted other guys, too. I don't know, but all of this made me feel special, at least for a while.
and I haven't gotten down to the bottom of this thread yet, but it sounds like you're getting the same answers, so that should be telltale.
That I met a client and we are crazy hot for eachother. Then another guy wrote a review of a session which reads exactly like my time with the client I am crazy about.
I feel bad because I'm afraid the guy thinks our time together was a fluke. A performance. It was not a performance. It was magic.
That's all. I realize it's all a little silly and there's no way I can assure him of my feelings other than just telling him. Which hopefully he believes. I just feel bad as a provider that he saw (or will see) the other guys review.
Our point, which you seem to miss, is that if you were genuinely "crazy hot" for this guy, it would be easy to prove. Simply stop taking his money and that would remove all doubt.
What you have is at most "chemistry" you and him "click" which is fine,, why do you want to be the one complicating this? Guys come on here all the time misreading the signals you ladies send out and 99% of the time, it's them reading more into a GFE than is really there. Why do you want to give false hope to a thousand manginas who have "fallen for a hooker and can't get up"???
Lie to us all you want, what's really ironic is that you appear to be lying to yourself.
I am not unsympathetic to the challenges that come with falling for someone who is married, but that's why most providers have boundaries.
Good luck
Glad that you sorted through your emotions and came to face the reality.
How long did you see this guy? What do you like so much about him?
I see this as fantasy land and I don't read anything more into it. If my review is the same so be it. If I receive more communications other than the usual thank you note then I'd feel special but just that special and noting more. At the end of the day just be honest with him includeing you don't want the p4p arrangement to stop.. All the misunderstanding in the world could be solved with honest feedback. Maybe I'm a tool but that's how I feel. A women would have to come out point blank and say I want to date you or I'd like to be your friend before I'd think our relationship is anything other than p4p.
I feel bad because I'm afraid the guy thinks our time together was a fluke. A performance. It was not a performance. It was magic.
That's all. I realize it's all a little silly and there's no way I can assure him of my feelings other than just telling him. Which hopefully he believes. I just feel bad as a provider that he saw (or will see) the other guys review.
which I don't have (I have a current favorite), and the other guy's review was a blow by blow (pun intended) description of my sessions with her then I am going to assume that the little green eyed monster is going to rear its' ugly head.. but just for a moment.. then I am going to slap myself up alongside the head and remind myself "self!, she's a hooker!, this is what she does for a living so unless you want to support her, get over it!"
then I'm going to get over it and call and book another appointment because he just reminded me of how good she really is...
If she went to Greece with him and O'd 4 times...all bareback.
Offering bbfs doesn't translate to genuine feelings and connections. I would think she's probably doing that with many other clients too and it would make me feel concerned about her safety.
On the other hand, if I knew that her feelings for me are genuine and there's no doubt in my mind that she's really into me then her offering bbfs would at least make some sense. It's not the other way around, IM
If you're trying to make the client feel more special while continuing to take his money, you can write some thoughtful cards, give him a small gift after seeing him for a session. Also, you can swallow his load after the session if you don't normally do that for clients. Then tell him not to write it in a review.
Any expanded menu makes me feel more special as a client, but there's always this thought in the back of my mind wondering "if she thinks i'm so damn special why do I have to continue to pay her to see her?"
I'm starting to wonder what the point of this thread is though. You want to convey to him that the connection is real, mutual, and genuine yet not taking his money and seeing him OTC wasn't the answer you're looking for. Clearly, you're looking for another answer to suit your needs and intentions.
Are you looking for someone who can be a BF who takes care of you at the same time?
Kind of like a sugar daddy but someone you genuinely like, so that you don't have to refer to him as your sugar daddy even though he's taking care of you financially just like an SD. LOL
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Without knowing what the OP provides, I was suggesting she provide more to the hobbyist than the others, so he would "know" she felt special toward him. Of course, in this business, it's hard to tell what's the truth and what's bullshit.
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As long as I'm paying the girl, I'd think that she can say whatever she wants to get me to continue to pay her. It doesn't matter if she's giving me MORE service with an expanded menu. The only way it's genuine is if she's doing it without me having to pay her for it. I won't be convinced otherwise. If money is involved, it's just a sugar daddy or a close provider/client relationship.
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I'm a woman lover, a mangina, completely pussy-whipped. I love women in general and try for some connection with the lady past the physical in every session. When we're going at it and something happens and she starts laughing (e.g., d**k accidentally comes out) but then apologizes for laughing, I gently tell her that laughter is a sign of a great, relaxed session and laugh with her. I try to get through the professional persona and make a connection to a person at the other end of my dick. I am glad that's how I am, won't apologize for it or take any shit about it, so don't start.
I'm probably the guy that would be most sensitive about this, but if the review was mostly about the physical wonderment, that's OK, as previously said, she's consistently a lot of fun in bed. If everyone is talking about a great psychological or chemistry connection that I also felt, it makes me wonder if the connection that I felt was real or just persona. I would much rather be with a woman than her professional persona
yes it would get me thinking that "oh, it was just another session for her so maybe there's no real chemistry going on" and then I'd try to come back to reality.
Otherwise, in the case of no real feelings beyond a provider client relationship, reading a review from a guy who had a similar experience would mainly serve to confirm that she's all that and more.
I think anyone who isn't sadistic would prefer to see his favorite girl get glowing positive reviews instead of negative ones.
Would there be some jealousy? Maybe some. I guess I'd feel just a little bit weird that it's the exact same blow by blow routine but I also know that this is just work for most providers. Unless the girl is giving me a lot of OTC time I wouldn't assume anything beyond it being strictly business
That the guy would think I was just doing my job on an assembly line.
Ok, so if guy#2 just had the same experience as you, and the provider knows you likely read guy #2's review, is there anything that the provider can do or say to assure you that the connection was genuine and mutual?
I'm kinda feeling guilty. Know I shouldn't and this is dumb, but I do
I'm sure you've been in relationships before and deal with more people than most guys here, do you really need to be asking us this? LOL
IMO, just give the guy some OTC time, go on dates, convey some hint through email/ text, maybe suggest going to some place and spend a day together OTC?
Actually, I think you posted this here so that the guy in question can read it too. He'll keep guessing because you're using an alias. Very clever... :
If you want him to feel better, go Greek bareback to let him know he's special. Unless of course, that's your specialty, then use a condom, he'll think you actually care for him.
then she has made me feel like it was genuine for the 2-3 hour fantasy and this makes me happy. It would be way too emotionally draining for a lady to really feel this way genuinely connected to that many guys, I think anyway.
We all seem to get the fact that this is a business, but she doesn't
Please don't tell me that this is a "I've fallen for a hobbyist and I can't get up" post from a hooker who wants "true love" and still wants to get paid as well
She clearly stated that she wants to show him that the epic session she had with him was a genuine and mutual one.
Yet she still wants him to pay her but convey the message that she likes him genuinely. HUH?
Personally, I'm very careful not to 'read the provider' incorrectly. She can say whatever the hell she wants in terms of sweet talk but the last thing I want is to mistakenly think that she really genuinely likes me beyond the session.
Therefore, as long as I have to pay her to sleep together or hang out together, I will never be convinced that she's anywhere near genuine
A provider can absolutely feel a crazy connection to a client, while insisting he pays her. Why would I want to change the dynamics and have him not pay me? Then it would be a married guy having an affair with me. That is not what either of us want.
or more importantly, you keep telling him that. He might believe you, but I don't. You might think he is a bit more special than your average client, but no mistake here, he is still your client.
and no, I don't blame you in the least if the guy is married, but don't lie to us, and don't lie to yourself. when the feelings are REAL the money won't mean shit to you.As long as you still want him to pay, your feelings will always be suspect to any guy with half a brain.
From what you tell us, it seems he doesn't need to know that your feelings are genuine or special for him.
He's married. You'd like to keep him as your client, a special client.
But is there a need to tell him that you like him for real through? By conveying your message, do you realize you just might get what you wished for... that you didn't wish for? You mentioned wanting to hear answers from "guys like RT" earlier not from guys who treat this as a real hobby. Don't you think this tells you a lot about your state of mind?
It sounds to me like you like him and you want to tell him that. You don't want him to think that your time together was just another session... yet you're confused because you're afraid and because he's married
Did he bring it up? If not and you are not prepared for him to run like Bolt then maybe keep it quiet. As for me I have one lady that I pull out all the stops for. I don't have much and she knows it but for our time together I make her the whole world. Then I go home and try not to get caught smiling. It can not go further. Until you see the decree and some movement from him just play it coo land don't get too invested in him.
Because if it ever does I will have lost perspective and I hope whatever remaining shred of sanity I have will be enough to convince me to take a long break from this, or perhaps a permanent one. But so far fair seas and smooth sailing.
there is one lady i have seen many times, my ATF, and honestly I would be very upset and hurt if I read a review of her that was just like our times together. Call me a hopeless romantic, but I feel like we have a special connection. Never intended to, but who can predict these things? So yes, I agree with you
I mean, I treat all ladies with the same respect and level of performance, so I'd expect the "pros" to be every bit as consistent as me! ;o)
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Florida:
I completely get your question, and experienced this! And yes, it nearly killed me emotionally.....I felt knocked down but I got up again!!! We are all human and a connection is a connection....but we are supposed to be detached....its hard!
You sound sympathetic....
George
If the guy had the exact same experience, I'd get the notion that the provider was playing by the numbers. As it is, many reviews sound the same: kiss, she gives BJ, he does DATY, they do mish, CG, whatever, she does another BJ, he cums, showers and leaves.
Where I was bothered a little was with a provider I'd seen who had reviews that were very different from each other. It sounded like she was reading the guys' minds, and going wild in ways that they would like. With me, though, it was more staid. Then I realize that I'm old, and just not cut out for the wild stuff anymore. So she was reading me, too.
If your reviews are just a bunch of acronyms, then its one thing to have same exact experience, but if they are detailed dissertations, like BCG (Tobi T) calls them, then its almost impossible for someone else to steal your thunder. 
Very hard to steal from a detailed dissertation. It's impossible for two independent sessions to be written exactly like the other the more detailed it is written.
I've seen you brag on many an occasion that your dick is a full inch long, Now I see you finally admit your dick is "average asian size" at only 1/2 an inch.
Now our secret of why we have "big brains" is out forever. rofl
Hahaha if length and detail are the issue, then you will never run into this problem.
If you just be sure to give every person your A game, most will greatly appreciate it and allow themselves (on some level, at least) the fantasy of thinking they are a big deal with you.
I do that and yet I know in my heart of hearts that it is really a fantasy, but I don't let it get to me.
As the good book says: Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
The ones that get all caught up and can't tell fact from fiction are the ones that have problems, and quite frankly, you should be glad if that type stays away from you because that's where the drama comes from
I'll be happy to see that another hobbyist wrote a similar experience, this way I have some assurance that she's consistent and I'll know that I'd like to repeat with her. I'm not in this to find a mate (although I think a provider would be the ideal mate if I were). But what I do want is consistently good service. My ATF was exactly what you described, the same reviews as I had experienced. and if she hadn't retired I'd still be seeing her. I for one don't have any delusions about what exactly this is, and I find it to be perfect.
So, concerts are my thing.. I love love love them!! Travel far and wide...
When an artist says, "Los Angeles!!! You have been the best crowd this whole tour!!"
I don't write a complaint that says, "heyyyyyy.. I was just at the Vegas show last night and you said the same thing!!"
It's part of being an entertainer. You are supposed to keep your audience entertained. 
... how another client really FEELS about you - nor how you feel about him. Thus if I read a review that is very similar to the experience I had, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. As others have said, consistently excellent performance by a provider is a GOOD thing.
There are two providers I consider "ATFs". One has a set routine she likes to perform on the first date, thus many of her reviews, written after that first session, are very consistent. When I write my reviews, I do not include every single detail, every feeling, every word spoken between us. It is those details that make my experiences unique from everyone else's. My other ATF has more varied reviews because she takes the lead from her clients and is open to almost anything, within some boundaries. And if the client lacks imagination, she most certainly does not. If I look across all of her reviews, I see most of the experiences I have shared with her... most but not all. If I were to select any one review at random, it might be very close to one of my dates with her. Again, that does not matter, because a relationship between two people is defined by more than a few words on a computer screen.
I know that both of my ATFs have many other clients who consider them to be their ATFs... which is no surprise because they are two exceptional providers, and ladies. I understand that our relationships are professional. They aren't my girlfriends, nor my SO. The "connection" I feel to these ladies is, I am quite sure, felt by many other gentlemen. That is one reason I think that being an exceptional provider is no easy feat... and one reason why many of you make more per hour than I ever will!
and he reported she made a statement Of appreciation for his efforts... the same exclamation that she said to me several years prior. A little creepy, yes, since I still see her sometimes but then I decoded it was just her expression to use as she saw fit & I'm fine with it.
If the details are too similar... I wonder if the reviewer copied a previous review! An over view would probably sound the same anyway.
...your interaction during the session is how it's special to those you want it to be special with. He (special guy) shouldn't take the same sounding session as exactly the same experience as his. Unless he has said something to you I think you may be overthinking this.
Ultimately though the others are right as long as there is money exchanged he may be special but not that special.
only so many ways to have sex or for a session to evolve.
Seriously.
If I would feel disappointed or catch myself thinking about “connection” with a provider, I would back out right away and try to stop seeing this girl completely. I am all or nothing kinda guy so that probably would not end well for me. Come to think of it, I am dealing with this situation on and off for the last few months, not fun.
Florida, if I may, after briefly scanning posts here on your thread, here's a few of my thoughts on this topic....
'Feelings' and 'magic' are two different things in this world, at least to me. The magic I feel with one gentleman may be a different kind of magic I feel with another gentleman, but nonetheless, it is magic, and not feelings. Feelings typically develop over time, usually anyway. And while sometimes over this time, it's possible that feelings may evolve, (we are all still human here), they may 'cloud' what is really just........magic.
The key is to remember just where you are and I think once you do, the smokescreen should clear away and ground you once again. I can only imagine that once the business aspect is taken away, too many 'other' questions arise that ruin the 'magic' you had to begin with anyhow.
My point is simple...enjoy the 'magic' for as long as you have it, but nothing more.
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