in your post to your TER profile? It doesn't cost anything and might result in some business from the gents and ladies on this board.
Here is my question: if the money I give a provider is for her time and not for services rendered, then why does she need to verify who I am via LinkedIn, DL, etc. I understand if she wants to make sure you are not an asshole, but none of those things will do that. And since no laws are being broken by exchanging time for money, it shouldn't matter what your profession is.
I care whom I share my time with & need to have a true connection. Vetted potential clients allows me the ability to see if we may have chemistry. As a single mom my safety is my #1 priority, so I do verify you’re not a person I need to worry about sharing my time with. Everyone is different. We are not all here for the same reasons. Find a provider who does not compromise your time. Be aware not all providers are professional & vice versa.
QueenBia, I have read a lot of your posts on this board and love you dearly. But sometimes (ok most of the time) your answers sound like they were written by ChatGPT. This is why I think so many on here have commented about the self-serving nature of your posts. Don't get me wrong, you go girl, and keep on doing you cause it is obviously working for you, but if you think having my DL (which I could have doctored because you certainly don't have a way of checking the number or driving history) and a link to my LinkedIn page gives you any idea as to "chemistry" then the word means something else in Spanish or Webster needs to update the definition.
When it comes to your safety, once again, none of those things will guarantee that. As I mentioned already, you're not going to jail because it's time for money. And if you are trying to make sure you won't get beaten up or worse, ever factored in that CEOs and Prisoners have the near same psychopathy rate? Not to mention that every serial killer ever known is usually described as "he was such a nice and mild-mannered guy" by his neighbors?
If that last part sounded a bit harsh, I am sorry. Know that I am not trying to convince you to change your ways. If this works for you because that is what you were used to doing when you started out, great! Keep on doing that. I just think that this is an outdated left-over standard hailing back from a time when pimps, whoops, I mean agencies, did all the bookings. And if the provider is the sort to charge for certain services, which you fall into that category based on your tier system of pure platonic vs deluxe etc, then I see the need to make sure the people you are meeting won't slap cuffs on you, or set up shop in Pahrump, NV. But that is also expecting a certain level of intelligence, which maybe most hobbyists are averse to. Something to mull over.
I personally love smart women and have noticed that the smart ones forgo those types of verifications. There is this provider in Vegas who goes by Dr. Kiwi and has her Ph.D. in Human Sexuality, just as an example. Great vibe all around. Love those down-to-earth natural beauties, no matter their age. But again, that is just my personal preference. And this is not an ad for her. Although it reminds me that I should write a review.
Hey FunGuy702,
A Provider's time is linked to the services that she provides. And you got to remember that Verifying who you are is really important to you & The Provider, because now a days you have State Cops, City Cops, Federal Government and etc. trying to shut this whole operation down and arrest everyone.
No court will believe the money was for their time. That's a legal "fiction" that really doesn't have any weight in legal proceedings.
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Safety screening is at best looking for repeat offenders... of which is somewhat of a pattern in sex offenders.
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Anyhow screening isn't going away so no use hoping for it.
That makes a little more sense. Something to note is I have noticed that the providers who also have a college degree of some sort are the ones who do not insist on an archaic verification process. Agencies tend to be the worst about it, and I have no patience for. If I get to chat with the actual provider, more often than not, even if that is their standard, they tend to wave it based on our conversation.
Now, what would make sense is insisting on a health certificate (both ways) that showed a recent panel of tests and negative on all counts that I could get behind.
I have a college degree and I still screen. And tests are good from the date on them. So they don't really guarantee you are clean. And that's only necessary if you are wanting bare services. Another reason we like references. Why do so many guys want to go bare w a random person. That's really something you do in committed relationships. I wouldn't do it even if i wasn't in this line of work. Protect yourself until you are in a1/1 relationship. That's my 2 cents.
Just last Sunday I had a new Sugar Babe over. She's doing uncovered oral on me, then jumps on top and shoves my bare willing into her pussy. Yikes! Even though that damage was done, a little bit later I put on a cover for the rest of the show.
I also have a college degree and require screening. You are spouting nonsense. I have honestly never had a client in my 12 years as a provider ask for my testing results, but I would be happy to supply them upon request.
Indeed. No prosecutor would have a problem getting around that "any money paid is for my time only - what goes on behind closed doors is between two consenting adults" line.
Same thing with envelopes - gotta love how some ladies want you to write "happy birthday" or some such on the envelope.
Not sure about everywhere obviously, but in the states that I lived in money didn't even have to actually change hands - intent is all that's needed.
I know a provider whose website says she's a yoga instructor. Lots of pictures of her (sans face) wearing sexy clothes. She lists prices for yoga lessons. I don't know of any individual who would believe that any sane person would pay $600 an hour for yoga lessons.
You give the prosecutors to much credit ha! Where I’m from and the states that I frequent(all of the states in New England and sometimes NY) the only state that I’ve seen consistent convictions of well informed individuals is Connecticut. Connecticut doesn’t care if you’re in the right or in the wrong they follow the blindfolded lady to the fullest, if I cop has made an arrest they just go with it 9 out of 10 times unless it goes to trial or it is someone’s family member.
Connecticut is the only state that Jonny Cochran, Rest In Peace, said he would never again take a case because of how corrupt and self serving their laws are. Don’t quote me on this next part but I believe he said the some of Connecticut laws were made by prosecutors.
Ok you can quote me again, Connecticut is also one of the only states where you can be charged solely based on hear say. Crime is indeed rampant in Hartford and New Haven but they have no want(not way) to control it, aside from BEING the constitution state they could care less about upholding it. The amount of money the state of Connecticut has profited off of their DOC is astonishing and substantially higher than 80% of the US based on the amount of prisons they once operated simultaneously but were forced to shut down when the governor was forced to investigate what the corrections officers were actually doing in the facility when they were supposed to be monitoring inmates, which then lead to timed walk through of the prison for every staff member. Protocols that all of the other New England states already had in place.
So to your comment after my brief history lesson, most states out here will actually drop the charges if you can provide proof that you were only there to donate for time or to drop of money. I say prove and the only way to do that is if you text certain things and have the text messages printed out and certified. This is of course after arrest if the cops are crooked. But if they are not crooked and/or a prosecutor is on their ases about their conviction rate that’s when they let you go. And move on to someone else. I’ve seen a lot of girls asking if you agree that you’re donating for time only and when I’m concerned about LE I just reverse the wording. It has worked for me every time. They either get offensive and try to trick you into getting mad and admitting guilt or they just disappear all together. Don’t you have a lot of reviews? You should know these things, like I said it keeps safe.
Another good point to mention is that you almost never see lawyers caught up in sting ops, it’s not like they don’t do the same things we do. The difference is they, I and other informed guys know what to say to make sure LE can’t pursue you.
Talk about fiction. Wow
Talk about fiction? Anyone reading this and seeing you say that clearly went to google to find the truth!
Very simple google search any of it..
I rest my case ha! Did you even try to fact check this before making yourself so laughable?? Inquiring minds want to know
In any legitimate court it isn’t about what you know it’s about what you can prove. Good prosecutors agree, judges and top attorneys all agree on this. If unfortunately you’re in a jurisdiction where this isn’t the standard I would leave immediately because a simple mongering charge is the least of your worries if you ever have to deal with court proceedings yourself. Always good to know before it’s too late, I hope this helps. And it should.
Safety screening does a lot more than look for repeat offending sexual predators it also screens for on duty LE. As well as a potential robbery for these girls. Excessive screening is usually LE or scammer activity. Pictures and a drivers license is with name only is as far as I’ll ever go.
Honestly if I can just be blunt I would like to ask you two who disagree a question but I would want all parties to agree that no offense would be taken. It’s not some rude out of this world or highly unlikely question, and technically you don’t have to answer or you could lie, but I would like to ask based on the way you interact with other people on this site..
Wt I’m just going to say it “IS THERE A REASON YOU TAKE THE LOW ROAD IN EVERY SITUATION?” The question is for you Lester and also FunGuy702 I’m only seeing you two come after people and stick up for each other on here.. if you disagree with the community so much/often what makes you stay? All of the typical deceit tactics are there but I’m wondering what you stand to gain from it all? When you come across someone with such determination towards discrediting others it definitely makes you come across as your working.. working on what other than discrediting and influencing idk.. so what’s with that? Is there some way of monetizing discussion board comments, I’m new here so don’t get upset and tell me to go to lell please just help me understand the culture that you to are a part of
post here because they disagree with YOU makes you come off as the new board Nazi. Granted, FunGuy is new, LIKE YOU, and you both have been here all of ten minutes. Lester has been here for 9 years and I can vouch for him as a straight shooter. Why is his opinion any less valid than the new guy, YOU? IMO, you get some things right and others wrong, just like most people here. Lester has eleven reviews going back 7 years, and you have none. Go ahead and try to convince us that you have more experience in P4P than he does. I love to be entertained by newbies with no reviews who come here and tell us how to do things. Lol
Gotta love these folks who come on here, have no reviews or verifiable experience, write like an 8th grader, and try to act like an expert. Only in America! Oh well, at least we have a couple of new laughingstocks to amuse us until they’re too embarrassed to keep typing.
In all actuality it would be until the new guys get tired of trying to steer people in the right direction and just say whatever I’m not going to keep looking out for people if they’re going to keep believing in false news,,
But good things for you a suckers born every second,, That’s your cue, go capitalize!!!
Also who writes like an 8th grader?? Many consider me to be proficiently skilled at writing and a very intellectual linguist. As I consider most of the members of this website to be as well.
11 days to come up with this word salad? That’s hilarious. And if you want to help others post some reviews and tell us about the escorts you’ve seen so we know whether to see them. This is a review site in case you didn’t know. Or maybe you’re still saving up for your first escort experience?
Mr. Lion,
This is not 2005. No one, except maybe you, cares who is "new" on TER. No one, except maybe you, cares how many reviews a client posts. I hate to be the one to break it to you but this website is becoming quite irrelevant. Entertaining? Yes. Relevant to the sex work industry? Minimal.
is the number of keyboard jockeys populating this board with little experience in the P4P scene. Every time there is a wave of newbies, the same old topics are brought up and same stupid questions are asked. If new members would use the search button, and get the info they want that way, when they do join the discussion, they might know what they are talking about.
Someone like you should know that the presence of reviews attached to a member's name is the only measure we have of whether someone has the experience to know what they are talking about. This is a review site. The discussion board is just a bonus for serious providers and reviewers to exchange information. You post here because you want to be noticed by potential customers, not because your life is so boring that you have nothing else to do. Am I right?
Likewise, the relevance to the sex work industry is a function of the collective experience of those posting here. You can't expect to learn much about trends and practices in the industry from members who have not yet written their first review of a provider. When I was new here in 2008, I read the boards and learned from those who had a substantial review history before I put my first post on any board here, which was about two years later and 100 providers later. As a newbie, I didn't want to get a reputation as an idiot when it comes to this biz. It seems many new guys skip the learning curve and go straight to giving speculative advice based on nothing. I agree with your conclusions on relevance, I'm just explaining why we have come to this point.
Exactly. God forbid any of us have a serious health issue, but if I do I don’t want my advice coming from a first year med school student; no, I want to see the best expert in the field, the doctor who has done the most surgeries or therapies of the type I need with the highest success rate. Same when it comes to sex and the hobby. I want information from the most experienced and knowledgeable guys and gals, not some newbie whose first discussion board post was two weeks ago and who has never posted a review of any kind that I can read to vet his/her knowledge base. That’s why when a new TER member comes in and writes definitive and/or aggressive posts I push back.
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I also disagree with Miss Scarlett’s theory that TER is in decline. There are certainly less participants since the FOSTA-SESTA hiatus, but TER is still the best place to share and receive information to keep one’s hobby experience safe and enjoyable.
The fact that you think that sex work exists in a vacuum and the only way to tell someone's experience either as a client or provider is by how many reviews they have or post is quite the bizarre thought logic. I know you have quite the hard on for this website, but come on buddy. And yes, most of my posting does come from boredom, today is laundry day. Do I think I will get any clients off here? Maybe? In the last year I know of two that found me on here. The vast majority of new clientele find me on twitter or tryst. And let's not discourage new people from posting on here. Unless you really want to keep it to just you and the other 5 random people and your other 3 alt accounts, that is.
that sex work exists in a vacuum, but I do think that those with no experience who come here and give advice come off as vacuous, both providers and mongers. I was in an board exchange with a provider who was trying to tell people about the prostitution laws in the Bahamas, but she had never been there. I have been there, so I had first-hand experience. When I pointed that I had been there and she had not, she quit arguing. I won't post a link because I don't want to embarrass her a second time on the same topic. Lol It's no different with newbie mongers who have little or no experience but want to tell everyone here the "right way" to do things based on the ONE session they have had. Lol
I only have a hard on for the ladies I see, nearly 100% of which I find and vet on TER, so am I a TER supporter for the tens of thousands of dollars they have saved me from the information I get here? Hell, yes!!!! Without TER, I might be fucking some struggling provider in Wisconsin who doesn't make enough to send her laundry out. Yikes!!!!
Thanks you so much again for bestowing on me your pearls of wisdom. I only wish someday....someday.....I can make enough money to buy a fancy washing machine so I no longer have to beat my clothes against a rock down by the creek.
If you're still coming to the DC area next year I'll offer to grab your laundry when I meet you and wash it for you!
I'll send you a washing machine so you can join the 20th century before taking on the 21st. Of course, you need electricity and a running water hook up. A pump at the kitchen sink won't work. Together, we'll get you off of beating those rocks. Lol
This guy lives under a rock with his 3 other fake alt accounts
He’s clearly one of the people who profits off of influencing others to see providers of his choice, be it free time or any other kind of compensation. Sextortion is a thing. And if he spreads BS here to get his evil deeds done I’m sure he does a lot worse when communicating with providers 1 on 1… YIKES is right! Providers be aware
against TER rules. If you think I have more than one account, send your proof to Admin and if it's true, they will ban me. Put up or shut up.
Evil deeds? I loaned money to many providers during the height of Covid in 2020 to help them with their rent. What have you done to help ladies in this biz besides fawning and sucking up?
1) You generously overpay your Mexican maids because they share their enchiladas with you.
2) You employ numerous illegal immigrants in your business, helping them support many families throughout Central America.
3) You happily over-pay many K-Girls and even set them up in "luxury apartments" so they can send more money back to the homeland.
You are a Fine American Whoremonger.
Bravo!
considering you probably didn't look any of this up. Number 2 is a laugher, and number 3 is half-right. What can I say. I do have a reputation for generosity with all of those who work for me in any capacity, including sex workers, although my children accuse me of giving away their inheritance. Lol
that’s a load of b.s.
First, you’ve demonstrated with your own behavior here over the years that the presence of reviews attached to a member's name is NOT the only measure we have of whether someone has the experience to know what they are talking about. If you insist on denying it, I’ll provide evidence.
Second, there’s only ONE TER discussion board limited to SERIOUS reviewers to exchange information… and it isn’t this one. I expect you’re well aware of that. If not, you should do a little research before making statements like that, or you might get “a reputation as an idiot when it comes to this biz.” lol
with no reviews. In all the fairness, if I had no reviews, I would probably say the same thing you're saying. It's like a guy with no hair bashing a guy who has a full head of luxurious locks. Do you see the irony here? Lol
With that said, there are many aliases here who have earned my respect over the years by demonstrating their knowledge of this biz. Others use the alias to hide the fact that they have no reviews. If you don't see that both exist here, then your mind is closed to the facts.
I have dozens of reviews under my member name. I’ve told you that before. And your whining about no reviews under an alias has nothing to do with your statement above (“ Someone like you should know that the presence of reviews attached to a member's name is the only measure we have of whether someone has the experience to know what they are talking about.”), which I called out as b.s. because you’ve demonstrated in these forums that you don’t believe it yourself. And it took you nine days to come up with that straw grasp. lol
You should be well aware that many members choose to post reviews under their member name OR their alias, and sometimes under both. I expect one reason they post reviews under their alias is that they want to hide them from providers, should they need to provide their TER member name (or email attached to their member name) for screening. I don’t feel the need to hide my reviews from providers. If a provider doesn’t want to book a session with me because of what I say in my reviews, it’s just as well we don’t meet.
I didn't notice my name mentioned the first time. Just have to disagree that I come after anyone. I try to stick to discussing the facts and opinions on the subject. Discussing or attacking people (except on the politics board) is boring and unenlightening. However I'll entertain any examples if someone wants to show where I did so -- I'm not a Saint. I barely notice anyone's name in a post, as I am discussing the ideas in the post. If I happen to seem to "come after someone" it's likely pure coincidence or just that we have generally different outlooks that would cause me to comment more often on whatever they write.
then how come you're doing so much posting there lately?
I'll note for the record that this person is a stalker who follows me around to every topic and posts these Fester pictures.
Notice that he can't rebut what I actually said. He can only call me a stalker because he can't think of anything else to say. And, in fact, I DON'T actually comment on everything he says. I limit myself to when he says something monumentally stupid. Which happens a few times a week. And our little snowflake just can't stand it.
At one time he even claimed to be flattered by my Uncle Fester gifs but I guess his skin has gotten thin of late
Stop sobbing, Fester.
Just because he has posted reviews does not in any way mean that he’s more experienced in P4P.. this is a website on the internet sir… and I’ve been doing this “WITH PROTECTION” since the year 2002(YES that’s before Craigslist in its prime!) without a review website, I’ve never been caught up in a sting and I’ve never got an std from a provider
You know how they say don’t believe it if you haven’t seen it and believe only half of what you have seen??
Well here on the internet you’re allowed to believe 10% of what you see before you become a victim.. you and your false news always trying to persuade the masses…
Also I don’t get anything wrong if people choose to not take my advice that’s on them just make sure you come back to the board and let us all know how it went, most won’t be honest and say “I should have listened” but I would and maybe there are some others that would. Go ahead and listen to a wack job if you want.
You know how they say “play stupid games, win stupid prizes…”
posted on this thread telling us how much experience you have, and yet, you still don't have a single review. This is a review site, not a coffee klatch. When are you going to start reviewing? I don't know what your financial condition is, but most guys here can afford to see a provider at least once a month. Have you considered rub and tugs? You are allowed to write a review of a massage session that ends in a hand-job, but you can't review the hand-jobs you give yourself. You consider yourself "eloquent" even though you just said, "Ladies be aware" rather than "ladies beware." How about that review?
You say you started paying for sex in 2002. It always saddens me when yutes are so inept at seducing hot civvie women that they have to pay for sex when they are so young. I paid for sex the first time at age 48. Before that, I got all of the women I wanted through the dying art of seduction. I think a lot of guys that started dating in the 70's and 80's are the same. Still single and paying for sex 21 years later. Sigh. It must suck to be you.
“Safety screening is at best looking for repeat offenders... of which is somewhat of a pattern in sex offenders.”
This! I’ve had so many sex offenders and men who have very recent domestic violence convictions trying to book with me. I hear so many stories from escorts about being assaulted by clients or having to deal with boundary pushers, and it’s usually because they don’t screen. I don’t understand how so many men don’t grasp how dangerous their gender-mates can be towards companions when they themselves are constantly warning their sisters and daughters to beware of strange men.
Once again I will chime in on this topic. I verify who my clients are and I also run a background check on everyone before I book a date. And yes, I have had guys try to alter their DL. That gets you blacklisted very quick. And no, for the millionth time we do not care if you are a cop. I have clients that are cops. And they submit their screening info just like every other gent that wants to see me. As you can clearly see from all of the stings that are still going on all over the US the target continues to be clients, not providers. As to why gals care what your profession is? I don't know. I do not ask for it, and I do not care. If I do find your profession during your background search I might ask in general conversation, but if you are a blue, white, or no collar guy makes no difference to me.
Most of my old clients were white collar but most of my recent clients are blue collar. Very nice gentlemen with great manners and straight-to-the-point attitude, which I LOVE. I actually have more fun when I’m around them because they are easygoing and show their appreciation. So like you said, it doesn’t matter what collar you where, you just have to be willing to help the escort maintain her safety by screening.
I have a favorite collar. 
Ooh! My favorite kind as well but you’re missing a lock 😉
in your post to your TER profile? It doesn't cost anything and might result in some business from the gents and ladies on this board.
Because she is probably using an anon profile, just like you often do????
an alias for posting for over 7 years, but I have used them over the years for certain reviews. Do you see the irony in you saying I use an alias to post, and YOU don't have a link either. You didn't really think this one through, did you? Lol
We are honestly only supposed to post our personal link when we are posting an ad. It does not happen every time, but my comments have been flagged when I put my link in as being an "ad", which is only allowed in the ad section.
that you are attracting are now blue worker workers and no longer white collar workers, it suggests that either your more recent customers have moved upmarket, or else you have moved down-market. Which do you think it is? Have you adjusted your rates downward recently to attract a wider customer base?
I screen so if you hurt me I have recourse because if I get hurt I will press charges. Knowing I have some info for that reason makes me comfortable. So far it's never happened. I also want to know if you are a jerk but I know that's not set in stone. Différnt people have different experiences w a person but it's nice to know if you short on money or try to take the condom off or whatnot.
There was none of this "show me how bad you want a date" bs these chicks pull nowadays. The competition was there, and abundant. There were no deposits for "safety", there was no giving up your whole identity just to bust a nut. In all seriousness, nowadays these escorts just want more money, for less service, and post pics of how luxurious life is.
There is no way a deposit is going to verify safety. A deposit is meant to save a time for a booking and nothing more. Unfortunately gentleman are being scammed out of deposits left and right because they think they can buy their way out of sending in screening info. My rates are very reasonable and I provide a very consistent professional and satisfying service, but I will not see you unless I receive and you pass screening. My incall is my home, so yes, you will be required to give up your whole identity to "bust a nut" if you wish to visit me. I make no exceptions for my safety.
It’s true haha
Are you really saying that these women should not have a way to identify you, given all the dangerous crazy creeps that are out there.