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AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 5426 reads
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1 / 41

Question mark for a reason.  Is there a certain thrill in NCNS a client at this level?  Are you that busy in the summer that a response to a email is beyond you?  This is not question if the service is better.  More of should I expect more at this level. Based on my experience today, the answer is no.

hushfan 11 Reviews 45 reads
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2 / 41

Sorry that happened to you.  I feel that if more money is asked, then EVERYTHING has to be better than the lower cost alternative.  Appearance and performance have to be better, and so does the professionalism.  

Adding price to a service is only doable when you're adding value as well.  Punctuality and communication are key factors to that value for me.  

CamilleUK See my TER Reviews 40 reads
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3 / 41

I (think) I understand you are saying you expect more at the 500+ level - some will agree with your expectations some won't

I'm not sure why you would think there is a certain thrill at them at level? Why would it be Exclusive to that rate? Regardless of rate NCNS is poor behaviour...

-- Modified on 7/27/2017 6:28:28 PM

CamilleUK See my TER Reviews 41 reads
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5 / 41

Nobody? Really?

Posted By: client_number_9
Re: Everyone wants to get paid like a pro, nobody wants to play like one.. (e)
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John_Laroche 41 reads
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6 / 41

just as her phone batteries died and she tried sending an email but there was no wifi.

No excuse at any price range for a NCNS.

In answer to your question, YES I expect more from a higher-priced provider. Also, for what it's worth and although my results are not scientifically validated, I have never been NCNS at +500 and generally get a more professional experience in the screening/planning/arrival stages.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 36 reads
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AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 51 reads
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9 / 41

Just thought maybe there is a short term thrill at having me wait for the call.  Along the lines of I'm so busy and in demand that I have them lining up to see me.   NYC ladies on a power trip perhaps.  Funny, I met a really nice girl from a Ohio while I was waiting.  Next week, I'm going to be a tour guide.  I guess the evning wasn't a total loss.  I am still money good, and I met a new friend.

lopaw 29 Reviews 54 reads
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AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 23 reads
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11 / 41

I guess some of us are ATM's.  I'd rather know that than be NCNS.  At least I know where my donation is going towards.

hammerhead896 56 Reviews 41 reads
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12 / 41

That being said NCNS from either the girls or the guys at any price range should be unacceptable.  

The other question is if she got hold of you tomorrow and offered to quote "make it up to you" would you see her?

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 24 reads
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13 / 41

My post was about an event that didn't happen, so the compliments wouldn't have happened, even though I've heard that before.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 36 reads
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14 / 41

Every time I stray from Asian ladies I am reminded why I love them.  They know what time it is, and know how to keep an appointment.  I'll deal with their neurotic tendencies, because that works for me.  Latin time or Island time drives me nuts!

2648667 31 Reviews 26 reads
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15 / 41

I agree with a lot of what you post, but this is fucking awful business practice.

I'm not even talking about the missed appointments or the reason for them. That's fine, maybe I'm in no position to judge. However, when the client who made you swoon was gone and you were back to earth and made the decision to just ignore the johns you flaked on "cuz I figured I'm dead to them anyway, why bother." Sorry, that just seems silly. Even if the appointment time was over and gone and rescheduling was out of the question, you could've made contact and apologized profusely. To many, you would've been dead to them, but many would've given you a second chance. Now, you'll never know.

AND, they're both out there telling every monger they know about it. Even if they never scheduled you again, an apology may have stemmed that, depending on their personalities.

Hey, if you're meeting your goals then don't let me or anyone tell you how to run your business, but this seems like bad business.

Besides how it may or may not effect your business, I'm wondering if you don't feel like they're human beings who deserve an apology over the situation?  My guess is you're jaded over johns canceling on you, but you don't know that these two specific ones ever did that to anyone. There's been several threads lately from a lot of different angles ending up in the same place: "She doesn't owe you/us anything." That's true in a lot of these cases. But I'd love to see the day a hooker says that a John who cancels last minute or pulls a NCNS doesn't owe her anything. I have never done such a thing; and I never will, short of some catastrophe, but I do wonder why this is the only business in which the clients are the ones walking on eggshells in that regard.

Whatever.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 48 reads
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16 / 41

For supporting my stupid rant.  I've read many of your posts about NCNS.  Funny thing is, I knew about 24 hours ago, the meeting was not going to happen.  I just wish that the lady would have fessed up so I could have gone home early.  

2648667 31 Reviews 38 reads
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17 / 41

Now I'm confused. I've been NCNS'd, it sucks, and you have my empathy. But now I'm confused. What do you mean you knew the day before? I guess I'm wondering how did you know, and why not find someone else?

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 21 reads
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18 / 41

It wasn't about why she NCNS it was about courtesy.  There are many reasons why a 'lady' NCNS.  I get it.  I would like a bit of notice so I can make other plans.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 46 reads
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19 / 41

I had a sense that the session was not going to happen. I usually set up appointments days ahead of time.  If I have to confirm the meeting, the chances are 50/50 that it will happen.  If she confirms the meeting, the odds are much higher.  In this instance, she said she would send me the incall details the night before.  Guess what? She didn't send the details and I had to ask her the next day.  The result was a NCNS. It's about motivation.

reallyareyouserious 41 reads
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20 / 41

Then she did not NCNS you, she blew you off for whatever reason.  The failure occurred when she failed to live up to the prearranged confirmation.  Doesn't make it any less painful maybe but a great deal of the NCNS falls on you because there WAS NO CONFIRMED DATE, period. Flaked out, dusted you, sick, mama sick whatever, SHe NEVER CONFIRMED A DATE....maybe not right but you certainly should have known better when you received the first signal.

2648667 31 Reviews 27 reads
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21 / 41

Well, this is a different tone than your earlier post.  

They know why you missed the appointment?? How do they know that if you never contacted them? You just told Andy, in general terms, that one reason a woman NCNS's is she decided she doesn't want to see that guy. And you just said to me that a real emergency is obviously a possibility. Which is of course very true. How do you now say they know why you flaked when you "never emailed them"? You're going in circles. Never mind, doesn't matter.

For the record, I never said you should tell them the why, I said apologize.

You said you were lucky they didn't put it on the boards. I'd say you were phenomenally lucky. All I was saying is that an apology would've reduced your need for that luck and increased the likelihood of a John letting it go, generally speaking.

Hey, if you were ashamed and you learned from it and moved on, cool. That's life! Everyone goes through shit like that. But don't hate yourself, that's poison.

Good luck out there.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 36 reads
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22 / 41

You learned not to capitalize random words.  Good for you.  But you capitalize multiple words?  Whatever. Please know what you are talking about before you post.  You don't have the e-mail trail so you are just speculating.

2648667 31 Reviews 43 reads
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23 / 41

I know what you mean. When you set it up way out in front, but then you're confirming with her rather than she with you, and you get that sinking feeling. Yup. Sounds like you had the date booked, but then when she doesn't give you the location details when she said she was going to, you pretty much know the situation is fucked. But if you book someone else and she then comes through, you look like the asshat.

reallyareyouserious 50 reads
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24 / 41

" If she confirms the meeting, the odds are much higher.  In this instance, she said she would send me the incall details the night before.  Guess what? She didn't send the details and I had to ask her the next day. "

So either she did or did not fail to confirm the night previous and when you asked the next day did she or did she not confirm or do you just have a hard time putting this in some sort of logical order?

MasterZen 34 Reviews 41 reads
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25 / 41

and IMHO it has nothing to do with her rate.  It is just life, and we all share it's ups and downs.

That being said, a NCNS sucks and is rude as hell. There is no reason someone cannot reach out and cancel in advance or communicate an apology after the fact.  At any $$ rate.

My approach would be to give her a day or two to reach out with an apology and create an opening to make things right.  If no contact, I'd move on. If I really wanted to see her, I'd maybe reach back out to her a few months later.

NO sense getting too bent out of shape about it. This is, after all, supposed to all be in fun.

ordairport 9 Reviews 50 reads
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26 / 41

Asians are more reliable in my hobbying experience; both AA and women in Asian countries. It's cultural.

GaGambler 44 reads
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27 / 41

The higher the lady's rates, the more she loses by flaking out on an appointment.

 
Of course, using "common sense" in such cases is almost always a bad starting point. lol Sorry you got stood up.

MidAgedCEO 14 Reviews 72 reads
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28 / 41

LOL even paying a girl and she won't show up to see you, how does that make you feel.

You were/are a emasculated loser and always was, from your previous post.

Want some more whine with your cheese ?

CamilleUK See my TER Reviews 45 reads
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29 / 41

Oooh come back and let us know how that works out!

Xx
Posted By: AndrewDufresne
Re: Short term thrill long term loss
Just thought maybe there is a short term thrill at having me wait for the call.  Along the lines of I'm so busy and in demand that I have them lining up to see me.   NYC ladies on a power trip perhaps.  Funny, I met a really nice girl from a Ohio while I was waiting.  Next week, I'm going to be a tour guide.  I guess the evning wasn't a total loss.  I am still money good, and I met a new friend.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 43 reads
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AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 51 reads
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32 / 41

Hey it's five o'clock somewhere.  Maybe I'll even tip you a quarter and make your day.  I have some funds left over from yesterday's NCNS.  

Please keep up with the attempted insults.  Your posts seem to arrive at the same time clients make substantial deposits to their accounts.  At this rate, I'll be too busy to get busy.  Nah, I'll just hire a sexy young assistant.  I'm in a better mood already just thinking about it.  Thank you!

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 22 reads
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33 / 41

That you were getting your brains fuck out...and then end it with a "So sorry"

10v3sf3114t10 100 Reviews 41 reads
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34 / 41

Post her NCNS on your local board. There have to be consequences for this sort of behavior, otherwise she and others will continue to do it. If they see that there are negative consequences, it serves as a deterrent in the future.

10v3sf3114t10 100 Reviews 32 reads
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35 / 41

Informing other hobbyists of her NCNS is neither vindictive nor retaliatory. It is the responsible thing to do, and this type of reporting is an important means of holding providers accountable for their actions.

It is the responsible thing to do so that other hobbyists can avoid wasting their time with her. Personally, I would like to know who she is so that I can put her on my DNS list,  and I imagine many other hobbyists would want to know as well.

Holding providers accountable for their actions, for better or for worse, is the whole purpose of this website. If hobbyists do not use this website to hold providers accountable for a misdeed as significant as NCNS, then it is failing to achieve its purpose. I am sure that most providers would blacklist a hobbyist who pulls a NCNS, and providers should be held to the same standard, in the interest of fairness.

2648667 31 Reviews 22 reads
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souls_harbor 29 reads
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GaGambler 25 reads
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38 / 41

what you call "disrupt and damage" I call "discouraging bad behavior"

 
I think bad actors on BOTH sides should be called out for it. NCNS hookers should be named publicly and so should NCNS johns. In this age of smart phones there simply is no excuse for not taking the ten seconds it takes to make up an excuse, I would prefer to be given a flimsy excuse that I know is a lie rather than simply being stood up wasting my time and in many cases my money. and I am sure you hookers feel the exact same way. Would you book with a client who is known for booking and not showing up? Wouldn't you rather know if a client is likely to disrespect your time? I know I would like to know which of the hookers in my area have a history of NCNS so I could avoid them.

GaGambler 25 reads
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39 / 41

It would have taken you all of five seconds in between the 11 orgasms I gave to grab your phone and text "so sorry" to the poor sap who was supposed to have been fucking you instead of me.  

 
Or was it twelve orgasms? I have such a hard time counting them after the first two or three. lol

10v3sf3114t10 100 Reviews 65 reads
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40 / 41

If there is a way to discourage bad behavior, such as NCNS, that does not involve damaging the business of providers who commit such misdeeds, I would like to hear about it.  As with any other for-profit business, the only way to get them to change is to impact their bottom line.

Or do you think that providers should be able to get away with such misdeeds?

impposter 49 Reviews 42 reads
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41 / 41

Posted By: Smartie
Can't you take your moolah to another girl? Can't you just let it go?
No! We can't. It often takes a lot of planning and scheduling on our part to set aside the time to arrange a date. (I'll leave out the variety of details that might be involved for each client.)  
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Now, in the moment: My appointment is at 8:00. NCNS at 7:50, 7:55, 8:00. OK, I'll wait a bit, maybe an overstay, traffic, had to bring pet hamster to veterinarian, etc. .... 8:15, 8:30 ... I hope I hear from her soon because I'm meeting friends for a late night out at 10:30 ... 9:00 and still NCNS. I'm just supposed to call someone else at 9:00 and get in and out by 10 in order to meet my friends at 10:30???  (Rewrite script for afternoon dates while taking a long lunch or ditching work or other scenarios.)
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If I had a zero tolerance policy and had NCNS at 8:01 and started calling around, I might get another short notice date set up. But what if she finally calls at 8:20 or 8:30? Now she puts it on ME for not following thru on the date just because she was a "few minutes" behind schedule.  
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So it's not as easy as you think to just "take [our] moolah to another girl."  
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A 10-second call; a text; an e-mail; ANY kind of notice is better than no notice at all. The last minute cancel is bad enough but it at least lets us get on with other business.

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