In the news today, a former Microsoft director and a former Amazon director, both reviewers, were charged with "promoting prostitution", a felony charge. You can google it or visit Slashdot for more details.

And as for "trafficking", obviously it's nonsense that the prosecutor needs to emotionally appeal to the hoi polloi. Who's to say the providers were not mostly independents.

It would seem that reviewers are indeed in danger! Reviews are the bedrock of this site. The only solution is to anonymize them and disconnect them from the submitter completely once they're approved.

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A review website focused on the Seattle area that was recently shut down by LE.  Supposedly these 2 reviewers saw and reviewed women who were "victims of trafficking."

How do you actually know that? Because the prosecutor said so in the press release? As I see it, "victims of trafficking" is just a ploy used by the prosecutors to make their case. Please google the following text (dated 1/11/16):

> "there are still umpteen websites out there that we haven't gotten to yet," said Sheriff Urquhart, promising that they would eventually go after these sites, too.

I'm afraid that this site and some of its reviewers may not be far behind.

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To this site. Only an idiot would do some shit like that hahaha ok bye.

I'd have to see more details, but there has to be a nexus between writing a review, which could be fictional (as far as proving it in court) and an actual paid sex session.  These guys must have (I am guessing) been caught in a sting arriving at a sex for hire location.  The "promoting" portion of the charges seem harder to prove in court

Using an anonymous email would certainly be a good first step, but unfortunately it would be quite insufficient and incomplete. There are many ways for LE to identify a reviewer still. The simplest would be to ask the review website for the IP of the user, and then ask the ISP for the user of the IP. Another would be to ask the email provider for the IP, and then again trace the IP to the user. Even if the user was using a VPN, chances that are it could easily be traceable. If the user was using Tor, that would be the ultimate protection, but even a Tor user was very recently de-anonymized by LE.

As I have noted in my initial post, the only real way to protect reviewers is for this review website to stop associating submitters with their approved reviews -- there should be absolutely no info connecting the two, and it is technically very easy.

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I expect this kind of dishonesty from the MSM and from LE, but the number of people right here who buy into this bullshit is rather disturbing to me.

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reviews would be an innocent ion nature .

 Classical reviews  are empty. What is was about ? what is suppose to be? Classical reviews?

It is known that word lives by double or sometime triple or more standards -even writing 'bad news " has rules how to make it so it would sound as  a "good news" .

 managers know what I am talking about

yet we here - so straight forward -  and in the matters which has the most sensitive nature.  

 Why we need to have all those "juice" details?

Reviews can be on woman's look and how she os sweet or not and if she  meets expectations  or not.

All that services and abbreviations - I still not met one single man which would not like them ALL.

It can be implied  that woman does it all - as to Greek - you can find out that and on the date( or just say on reviews that she double sweet, triple sweet - or what ever  

 
There no absolutely  NO need to go in to ever little details such as  
 on which edge of the bed  you was doing her with you D deep in her  A

That is how reviews are now.  

So that is just be simple reviews without any hooker/john s terminology as  

 "Incall outcall,  menu services and so on . "

It is what I am repeating already many  times.

Date booking should not take place from P 411 or other sites even form here - just find a woman  here but not send her FROM here pms about date -

 sending  n bookings forms for a  prostititon is admit in participating in such  

 and as well as writing reviews .

 Do  NOT Meet those escorts who DOES participate on all possibles john screening date bases  

and more likely as added YOUR info there as well  

 
May be TER wiil come up with new TER  

(as it was promised long time ago and would take it an step further as about being more discreet and more legal savvy - as well as will allow there women who do it all and men who do not need proves on that and will review her classical and elegant)

 
Safety as use of condom and safe practices also are implied and even not discussed.  

I wish there be new TER where only safe and wise people  would  be allowed and not the one which can  say -
 on our boards

"she does look pretty with my cum on her face"  

And then we wonder why law goes after those adult sites .. and it is why many nice men and women would not bother to participate here  

I  do participate - and I am beaten up a lot for my   honest sayings of my opinions - but again - not ventured - not gained.  

I would be this summer in Geneva , yet I wold be visiting states often by business.  
So now I have bit time to talk here  

Even I do have  many reviews here - I went by customs of this business when I knew  little
Now I know that men with no reviews and zero white list in many cases just way safer
 And I would not reveal a secret for you men? That not only for me is NO- NO-

  a Seasanal hobbyists with 150 + review are written ?
Why not have  two platform for TER  
 classical and I think many want to stay within sites where they openly would talk about coming to her face and taking his cock deep to throat sloppy so all world would know that -  if there are some people like it - so then they are free take their own risks  

But there has to be a choice for those who just surfing and meeting people without talking hooker and john language - YET knowing precisely what it would be  if they will meet each other behiund close doors

I think it be good Idea for TER start second platform and invite there women  who have wild menu  so men know - they even do not need use search function or write reviews.  
 Call that Classic  Social Connection- yet we all would know want it is about  
 Wink wink  

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Or just don't write reviews.
Personally I'm not worried about it.

not to mention a couple of aspirin

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somebody needs to put their cock in her mouth to make her stfu.

Or maybe just start read books and  improve your comprehension skills?

Reading also helps - maybe you already going to this  diseases .. from which Robin Williams committed suicide ?
 
How it is - I read online - he has dementia? Gambler - be careful !!  

 Reading MY posts is  prophylactic  from dementia.

Your few cells left then are  starting to  work.

 
Do not mislead people to think that you are  Pontius Pilate  with  his headaches .

 You are not.-

 You just possibly have some illness that you have so many headaches may be  even you are develping dementia -

 then you JUST would benefit from some brain work..and posts do provide you with such.   It is why you keep reading?

 
May be you  want us all , intelligent readers  to lead in to belive that you - as t Ponti Pilates -- always have headaches?

Then act as  him - wash your hands and do not feed crowd wich is thirsty for blood  

 
You just made my day with you are  acting as Pontius Pilate..  

 while in fact you are are just ill  and loosing brain cells ... - you admitted that and yourself.

Stop take aspirin - nobody told  you that aspirin dilutes your blood ?

you possibly will  have  and of a lot bleeding problems?  
 Your nose is bleeding as well and  every little  scratch bleeds long?
Stop take aspirin.

Improve your relationship with the  world,

 become less cocky,

 be kinder ,

 read more books  

and hit fitness room (not just hookers beds.)

 and you will cure your health .
 
 
So it is my  free therapy  for you  for now - soon I am busy again with my long term assignment  

 - getting ready for Geneva for summer

Yet I would be in states often and at summer  time  as it is my second residence- NYC  

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that has its servers offshore is out of reach of American LE.  Further, these types of "crimes" are generally state matters, so the Seattle Sheriff can bluster all he wants, but cannot do squat beyond the limits of his own jurisdiction.

besides I bet you she can type and suck cock at the same time.  

I remember London Rayne bragging about having that talent, but I LIKED London. It's an art form to both be a bitch and be likeable at the same time.

that in light of the way things unfolded in Seattle, the word is out in the Kgirl community that if they go along with the LE party line that they are trafficked, they will not be prosecuted, but instead treated like a victim and released.  I know a couple that have been through the process and the worst that happened to them is that the money that was taken when the incall was raided was not returned to them.

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Just saw kiro news report  & read it.    

One thing I don't get is, it's not like these "hobbyist" knew these girls were being trafficked.  They should focus on the real criminals the traffickers  ugh 😡😡😡

No one cares about putting consenting adults in prison, but everyone is against "human trafficking"

As I said, it REALLY pisses me the fuck off when even people here buy into this bullshit. Especially someone with slanted eyes herself. Wake up Gemma, there is no bogeyman here, except for the MSM and overzealous law enforcement, and the politicians, and the feminists and the bible thumpers, DAMN, wait a fucking minute, there are PLENTY of bogeymen after all, my bad.

GaGambler is right. The way these news articles are written, they have you believing that there is an epidemic of trafficking. The Asian women in question can walk out of the door and seek help from Social Services at any time.

I also know a couple who claimed they were being trafficked when I know damn well they were here 100% of their own free will, one of them was actually engaged to a former client, got arrested and starting simply "making shit up" to save her own skin.

Trafficked women don't go on week long vacations with their boyfriend.  

This is not unique to Asian women, I remember when one of the suburbs of Atlanta did a crackdown on all the Brazilian "casas" It started when one of the women got busted and also claimed she was being trafficked. I know for a fact she was lying as well as I had seen her as a customer not only at her incall, but we did an overnight once, without the agency's knowledge at her own, very nice apartment, where she had her very nice Lexus parked, Sex slave mi culo, Sorry I am too lazy to Google how to say it in the more appropriate language of Portuguese

but my sample size is rather large having dated several women that worked either for an AMP or an Asian agency, so I got to know not only the women I was dating but all their friends as well, so my personal experience with seeing women that many people might guess were being trafficked numbers in the hundreds. Far from being held prisoner most of these women would walk through fire in order to stay here, and many of them have managed to do just that, some by marriage, some by other legal means.

Some of it is cultural, one of the first women I got into an LTR with who worked at an AMP mainly stayed at the spa, most Americans would assume she was being forced to stay there but the truth was she had a very nice apartment only a few miles away, but she worked very long hours and sleeping at work got her an extra hour or two of sleep each night, so six nights a week she would sleep at the spa. Saturdays she would spend with me and then we would stay together during her vacations which were about one week out of the month, yes that "time of the month" lol

Oh GaGa, there is human trafficking that really happens, I'm shocked they blame the hobbyist, it should be focused on the pimps & MF-ers who sex trade these girls..  

 I maybe slanted eyed, as I know you are too, all I'm saying is human traffickers are POS.

Yes, "real" human traffickers are POS, but the media looks for traffickers under every rock, and virtually every Asian agency when busted is charged with human trafficking, I've seen it with my own eyes.

I am not saying the abhorrent practice doesn't happen, but you are much more likely to find a trafficked woman sewing in a sweat shop in the garment district than you are a massage parlor or nail salon on front street.  

Most Asian on Asian crime happens in their own closed communities, away from the prying eyes of most American people. and this includes sex slaves. I have only had a couple of experiences in forty plus years of seeing hookers where I had the feeling the women were not there of their own free will and those times were in "Asian only" places where no white clients were to be seen. and yes, I felt very uncomfortable and left without indulging.

So, yes it does happen, but the chances of those women in the AMP, or the Kgirl, or the Vietnamese woman doing your nails being trafficked are probably several thousand to one.  

And yes, If you think those Vietnamese women in the salon are talking about you in Vietnamese behind your back. They are. lol

Pretty foolish if they bust an incall and there is no "victim."  They let the girls off if they cop to the fiction they are trafficked, so LE can get the org owners and justify spending tax dollars in the investigation.

What's up with the betting man, gambling is bad for you...  I know not all Asian establishments are human trafficked but most are along with Europeans, Latina & AA's...   You always have to make an big fat Argument out of things that you think you know it all in.  Last week was adrienne.

I am sure a LOT of Europeans, Latinas and Ebony ladies are going to be really fucking happy with your assessment of them.

Are you back on the sauce again? because you aren't making a lick of sense.

You're insults are so tiring.., I think your on the sauce.  Give it a rest man ... You can't tell me there no trafficking.

if it will shut her pie hole

Thinking anybody gives two shits what you think

a free blowjob to get me to read all of that.

concentrated in the Hispanic brothels and the Chinese storefront massage parlors.  There are four tip offs you may be in a trafficking establishment:

There are more girls in the waiting room than there are private rooms in the place.

None of the girls speak any English.

There is a dirty smell, mostly sweat and body odor.  

The manager is collecting the fee/donation and not the girls.

Years ago when I used to go to a few AMP's, I encountered a few of these and turned around and walked out as soon as I had even a hint that there was trafficking going on.  Most Kgirls operate out of an upscale two-bedroom two bathroom apartment, no manager on the premises, and they collect the money themselves and pay their expenses for the incall to the org owner.  Two rooms, two girls, no smell, no manager taking the money = no trafficking.

signing a contract, that is different from trafficking.  Many girls are advanced money for airfare, cosmetic surgery, legal help with visas, wardrobe, living expenses, etc., and agree to give a larger percentage of their earnings to pay back the loan until it is fully paid.  This practice spans many professions, such as nail salons, au pairs, certain tradesmen, in addition to providers.  (However, I never heard of a tradesman that needed bigger boobs to work here.)

I think there are evil people in the world and therefore there is trafficking.   However, it is to any provider's benefit to claim to be trafficked to avoid prosecution -- so claims of being forced into the business are going to be common.  In fact what girl wouldn't pull that line?  

Two goals I can discern from your posts: 1) self-promotion (e.g., coming to New York) and 2) arguing for a non-juicy-details site.  

As to both goals, you'd do better to make your posts more concise. The spacey stream-of-consciousness is not persuasive (2). Nor is it attractive (1).  

I did enjoy some of your lines, though. At times it was almost like an opera libretto