There have been a lot of threads recently (and a million in the past) bemoaning the lack of authenticity their provider experience. I've met my share of ladies who took great satisfaction simply in blowing my socks off and we both walked away happy because it didn't need to be anything more than that. Bring it on ladies - I love me a good performance!

directly related to the attitude of the john. You go in with a great tude and treat her like a human being, she repays you in kind.  

And I agree with hobbyist+truth on why.

Are you taking a position that  negotiation is a NO NO, no matter what..

In Melissa's recounting, he opened with a lowball offer AND insinuated that she was lucky to receive it. That sounds pretty insulting to me, I'm not surprised she passed. Even a used car dealer would laugh off that offer. I've lived in countries where I could bargain in practically every transaction - it still requires an element of mutual respect in order to not get punched in the face

You might negotiate once a year depending on contract or employment type, some folks might negotiate every few years or even less often, if at all. But what if your boss came to you every day and asked you to justify your worth and negotiate your salary? Would you still feel the same?

Providers just offer discounts and specials without me even asking. It's like I'm seeing a weekly flyer for a department store holiday sales promotions.

where someone's offer is just so ridiculous that its so insulting that its almost laughable in a sad kind of way.  I am just talking about the overall policy that some abide by.  

Typical salary negotiation starting point: $___ is my expectation based on my experience, market rates and other offers under consideration. What can you do?

If you can't give me XXX for XXX hrs... Go fuck yourself.... Yeah that works..Sure....

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He drops his figure to half yours, then cut the time in half and then restrict services commensurate with his offering. And the dick god thing, that would have made me laugh.

Every provider is willing to negotiate under the right circumstances. Making it broadly known that that option exists invites haggling from the get-go. There's an unending supply of cheap johns out there.

I make the assumption when I look at an ad that she has determined what her services are worth based on the market she is competing in.  And I either pay what she thinks she is worth or I don't call.  Sure there's a possibility I might catch her at a time of greater financial need, and maybe she would accept less.  But if she does there's also a good possibility she would provide less of a service.

I know that its not smart to broadly advertise it....Point taken.. But again its not very smart to come out and completely shoot it down either...

These women are selling the most intimate service on the planet.  So no matter what you say, it's just not the same.  At least in this country.  In places like CR, negotiation is part of the game. But not here.
So, be my guest and negotiate here.  All you'll do is piss her off and she won't see you.  Pick girls who have a price/value relationship that works for you and just pay the freight.

It doesn't need to be done in a hard ass, haggling kind of way...One can always polish their edges by using people skills. And no one says, you can't do it in America.. I have done such soft negotiations many times, and plenty of times have got what I wanted...

It's some of that entitlement things the ladies seem to get blasted for here sometimes in reverse!



Steph

I don't do it.  Sometimes a "special" is only $25 off.  I'd rather give her the full amount because I want her to be enthusiastic about seeing me, not feeling like she's been nickeled and dimed.
I have, however, accepted grandfathering if it meant saving $100. But that's not the same as negotiating.

It would be stupid to try and do that.. Some of it entirely depends on circumstances...

It would just start things off on a sour note.  When I see a profile and read reviews of a provider that suits my fancy and then see her rates are a little out of my ballpark I'll just move on.  IMHO it would be an insult to try to negotiate down to a price that I'm willing to pay.  And again I'll stress that if it's a first time session with a new provider I would never even consider trying to get her to agree to a lower price, talk about a mood killer.  Hell, I don't even take advantage of P411 discounts when available.  I've found that by being nice, respectful and courteous my sessions have been very rewarding.  I'll probably take some heat from some hobbyists on this, so be it.........

(and this is a bit redundant to my post above) I just can't wrap my mind around haggling with someone who's going to suck on my cock, let me put it up her vagina, then swallow my sperm.  If I can't afford her rate I don't try to book her to begin with.
I'm fine with that.

Is completely wrong. Most of them pull rates out of their butts. To each their own, believe whatever you want. I have seen one provider go from $$$ to $$$.5, and every one follows her. Could of months later, they change names and come back $25 lower than their original rate.  

I appreciate grandfathering and have even been offered a special rate after multiple engagements, which I appreciate not just for the acknowledgement that I'm a valued customer but for the business savvy of the girl who offers it.  But ask for a discount?  Never; no matter how artfully done, it's like cutting the salary of an aircraft mechanic...he might show up and do the job, but do you really want so-so performance when the stakes are that high?  And for me, like many, hobbying opportunities are few and I don't like disappointments so I consider the stakes pretty highl

Have this going on...

Let me start off by saying that I completely understand this is an intimate business, and hence I don't drive a hard bargain like I would when buying a car etc.  

Now I get it.  Especially re the overnight, that's not haggling, especially if she had no posted rate anyway.

Last time something like this happened in MLB was in 1986 with Houston Astros.

His abs are a shame and those legs need work.