The first is the little matter of the provider "supporting" her SO. This is a non issue to me. My wife has always made significantly more money then I do. I was once asked if it bothered me that she made 2 to 3 times what I make and I said it certainly did: I wished she made 10 times what I do so we could buy a great summer house, a Paris apartment, etc etc.
The second is the jealousy issue. I am not a jealous person (Tho once, for reasons I will never understand, I was overwhelmed with jealousy and it was the worst feeling I have even had.) Could I deal with my SO having sex with so many others and being "really into it" and giving DATO etc? I think ti would be all right and at least one friend of mine is now married (I think) or is effectively married to a provider and he goes on lobbying and I think she still provides (at least that was so the last I heard) ad he seems very happy. Decades ago, I was close friends with a number of providers. They were a group who were professional dommes and who did very painful and at times disgusting (to me) things to their clients. As friends, they were a wonderful group and I could easily have fallen in love with at least two of them. The thing that struck me at that time was how not weird they were. They were smart and affectionate and good friends.
I was just perusing the different threads from different places and came across this post in Boston, I found myself getting a little perturbed by the seemingly offencive tone of the thread. Normally, I'm not the angry hooker who takes exception to others opinions as we all have an ass hole but this really bothered me.
The jest was that if a provider has a boyfriend or husband, he is less than a loving or productive man, he is living off of her and has no standard for himself in relationships and that she can only get a low life succubus (in man form of course) who can't look past her chosen profession and see who she is as a person and fall in love with that. They insinuated they are all pimps, not partners.
I'd just like to say that altho we are in an unconventional profession, it is a profession none the less, A JOB and we do have regular lives and families and homes and interactions. Our world is not filled with tricks and treats every hour of everyday. We are capable of being loved by descent human beings and we are not all being taken advantage of. Every man that loves a provider is not a pimp or a loser. We are not all on drugs or feeding some deficiency in our lives, some of us have great relationships with our mothers and fathers and our parents are still together, no daddy issues. We weren't all molested or raped and we do have religious and moral compasses. Not every hooker is exploited or forced into this life at an average age of 13, I myself have never met one of those women and we actually choose this career and enjoy it. Seems they are generalizing us all but forgetting about the highly respected soccer mom who is fucking her kids coach, her husband's brother and best friend while she's taking zanex by the handful because she can't cope with the struggles of being a stay at home mom. We all know shopping, cooking and cleaning all day can be the worst life ever.
Well that's about it. Just had to get that off my chest. Again forgive my rant in advance but people need to know
The provider I'm seeing is just a regular lady just trying to survive. She's not a drug addict or alcoholic. She's a single mom just trying to pay her bills and support her kids. I help her out as much as I can outside of our meetings. She's is so sweet and adorable. We've become great friends.
BRAVO!! I've been saying the same kind of thing for years!! Why can't people look at the positive aspects (and there are several) of the "hobby"? There is still SO much stereotyping in society that needs to be overcome!! (I do have hope that the millennials will help to eventually bring about---(as Friedrich Nietzsche would say)---a "reevaluation of all values.")
Funny how so many misogynists are keen to demeaning the professional women in the industry. No motherfucker, what you're doing is far worse. You have a loving wife and family and a great job yet you feel the need to divulge your own personal desires yet you're still better than the women who is trying to survive in a masculine-dominated society
A lot of guys here don't have loving wives or families and considering how many of them can only afford a hooker once every few months, I doubt they/we all have great jobs..
but yeah, you're pretty much spot on about the tricks looking down on the hookers when if we are going to talk "morality" here, it should be the other way around. Myself excluded of course, I am not cheating on anyone, but neither do I look down on hookers, I only look down on them when in mish or doggie, when in CG or RCG I suppose I am actually looking up at them. lol
That's all fine and good. But I need first-hand experience just to be sure you're not full of crap.
We'll need to date in order to sort all of this out okay? That's the only way I can know for sure. If all goes well, I will come back to this thread and report back our results. i.e. whether or not I am a loser for having "lowered" myself to dating you and all that jazz. I will then also be able to attest to whether or not "civie" sex with a hooker is less satisfying, etc.
LOL, I'll take you up on that but know this, if we date, you will have to meet my parents who live about 7 minutes from me and insist I watch football at their home every week. When they go out of town, you'll have to help me feed the horses and clean the pool in the summer time. You'll have to eat homemade food because I'm not a go out type of chick and smoke outside or downstairs by the pool table because I can't stand the smell. But I have a huge house, deck and backyard so you can find a place away from me. You'll also have to get to know my two dogs (my babies) You will have to go to each grandma's house alternating holidays in MS and NC and you will have to go with me to the gym. That's pretty much my deal breakers. Oh and the strip club is a must!
If I can think of anything else, I'll let ya know. In the meantime, you can shoot me a pm and we can get this party started. one last thing, until we are actually a couple, I'm gonna also need you to remember the envelope, LMFAO. Wouldn't want to have to report what a loser you are right?
PS thank you all for putting up with my bs and rant. The support of my feelings is appreciated. You have made my heart less heavy about this tonight.
Luv Ya
Posted By: some-guy
That's all fine and good. But I need first-hand experience just to be sure you're not full of crap.
We'll need to date in order to sort all of this out okay? That's the only way I can know for sure. If all goes well, I will come back to this thread and report back our results. i.e. whether or not I am a loser for having "lowered" myself to dating you and all that jazz. I will then also be able to attest to whether or not "civie" sex with a hooker is less satisfying, etc.
2) I say "fuck," "shit" and "pussy" like they're going out of style
3) When with your parents or other family, I will pick the most opinionated one of the bunch, and I will proceed to argue with them about politics and religion. And I will treat it as if it were a sporting event, with my goal being to show them how right I am for holding my beliefs and how simple-minded they are for having theirs.
If you can put up with those three things, then I will be fine with massaging granny's bunions. And the watching football and going to strip clubs ... a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
The first is the little matter of the provider "supporting" her SO. This is a non issue to me. My wife has always made significantly more money then I do. I was once asked if it bothered me that she made 2 to 3 times what I make and I said it certainly did: I wished she made 10 times what I do so we could buy a great summer house, a Paris apartment, etc etc.
The second is the jealousy issue. I am not a jealous person (Tho once, for reasons I will never understand, I was overwhelmed with jealousy and it was the worst feeling I have even had.) Could I deal with my SO having sex with so many others and being "really into it" and giving DATO etc? I think ti would be all right and at least one friend of mine is now married (I think) or is effectively married to a provider and he goes on lobbying and I think she still provides (at least that was so the last I heard) ad he seems very happy.
Decades ago, I was close friends with a number of providers. They were a group who were professional dommes and who did very painful and at times disgusting (to me) things to their clients. As friends, they were a wonderful group and I could easily have fallen in love with at least two of them. The thing that struck me at that time was how not weird they were. They were smart and affectionate and good friends.
I agree jealously can be an ugly monster, when I was in a serious relationship many moons ago, I fell victim to it and it was not a comforting feeling or reaction. I had to realize that if a man chose me, there was a reason and I had to reinforce his choices not my own insecurities. Once I did that, I figured out that (at least in my own mind) what was for me can not be "taken or replaced" by anyone else. It made things a whole lot better, happenstance that he then became jealous as I was no longer consumed with the who, what's and where's so he figured I didn't care anymore. What a koinkydink right?
As far as the money, when your wife does make 10 times more and you get those homes, can I be your huckleberry? Lol
Posted By: Dr. joe
The first is the little matter of the provider "supporting" her SO. This is a non issue to me. My wife has always made significantly more money then I do. I was once asked if it bothered me that she made 2 to 3 times what I make and I said it certainly did: I wished she made 10 times what I do so we could buy a great summer house, a Paris apartment, etc etc.
The second is the jealousy issue. I am not a jealous person (Tho once, for reasons I will never understand, I was overwhelmed with jealousy and it was the worst feeling I have even had.) Could I deal with my SO having sex with so many others and being "really into it" and giving DATO etc? I think ti would be all right and at least one friend of mine is now married (I think) or is effectively married to a provider and he goes on lobbying and I think she still provides (at least that was so the last I heard) ad he seems very happy.
Decades ago, I was close friends with a number of providers. They were a group who were professional dommes and who did very painful and at times disgusting (to me) things to their clients. As friends, they were a wonderful group and I could easily have fallen in love with at least two of them. The thing that struck me at that time was how not weird they were. They were smart and affectionate and good friends.
While everything you said is quite true, you have to understand that the overwhelming majority of "civvie" men would NOT be able to cope with that (having a partner who was an escort)
I'd wager that many here, who frequent escorts, would not be cool with their partner going into that line of work.
Obviously all the harsh, cruel things you mentioned aren't true or fair. It's just for most mortal men, we can't handle sharing our wives and girlfriends in such as intimate way.
I'm by nature not jealous or possessive, I think I'd be OK with my partner going into the profession, maybe with certain ground rules laid out.
Posted By: ajoi2you
I was just perusing the different threads from different places and came across this post in Boston, I found myself getting a little perturbed by the seemingly offencive tone of the thread. Normally, I'm not the angry hooker who takes exception to others opinions as we all have an ass hole but this really bothered me.
The jest was that if a provider has a boyfriend or husband, he is less than a loving or productive man, he is living off of her and has no standard for himself in relationships and that she can only get a low life succubus (in man form of course) who can't look past her chosen profession and see who she is as a person and fall in love with that. They insinuated they are all pimps, not partners.
I'd just like to say that altho we are in an unconventional profession, it is a profession none the less, A JOB and we do have regular lives and families and homes and interactions. Our world is not filled with tricks and treats every hour of everyday. We are capable of being loved by descent human beings and we are not all being taken advantage of. Every man that loves a provider is not a pimp or a loser. We are not all on drugs or feeding some deficiency in our lives, some of us have great relationships with our mothers and fathers and our parents are still together, no daddy issues. We weren't all molested or raped and we do have religious and moral compasses. Not every hooker is exploited or forced into this life at an average age of 13, I myself have never met one of those women and we actually choose this career and enjoy it. Seems they are generalizing us all but forgetting about the highly respected soccer mom who is fucking her kids coach, her husband's brother and best friend while she's taking zanex by the handful because she can't cope with the struggles of being a stay at home mom. We all know shopping, cooking and cleaning all day can be the worst life ever.
Well that's about it. Just had to get that off my chest. Again forgive my rant in advance but people need to know.
You're probably correct many can't handle it and to each his own, however, don't limit me to the dredges of society because of your (not you personally) lack of understanding is all I'm saying. Remember just because one doesn't know who their significant other is screwing behind their backs doesn't mean they hold a jem In hand. Providers are just open about it and actually get somethings for it.
Intimacy is a very private and personal thing I agree, sex isn't always intimate, it doesn't equate to love or heartfelt emotions. But your correct in the statement that many are not strong enough or open enough to manage the thought.
Posted By: The_Lies_We_Tell
While everything you said is quite true, you have to understand that the overwhelming majority of "civvie" men would NOT be able to cope with that (having a partner who was an escort)
I'd wager that many here, who frequent escorts, would not be cool with their partner going into that line of work.
Obviously all the harsh, cruel things you mentioned aren't true or fair. It's just for most mortal men, we can't handle sharing our wives and girlfriends in such as intimate way.
I'm by nature not jealous or possessive, I think I'd be OK with my partner going into the profession, maybe with certain ground rules laid out.
Posted By: ajoi2you
I was just perusing the different threads from different places and came across this post in Boston, I found myself getting a little perturbed by the seemingly offencive tone of the thread. Normally, I'm not the angry hooker who takes exception to others opinions as we all have an ass hole but this really bothered me.
The jest was that if a provider has a boyfriend or husband, he is less than a loving or productive man, he is living off of her and has no standard for himself in relationships and that she can only get a low life succubus (in man form of course) who can't look past her chosen profession and see who she is as a person and fall in love with that. They insinuated they are all pimps, not partners.
I'd just like to say that altho we are in an unconventional profession, it is a profession none the less, A JOB and we do have regular lives and families and homes and interactions. Our world is not filled with tricks and treats every hour of everyday. We are capable of being loved by descent human beings and we are not all being taken advantage of. Every man that loves a provider is not a pimp or a loser. We are not all on drugs or feeding some deficiency in our lives, some of us have great relationships with our mothers and fathers and our parents are still together, no daddy issues. We weren't all molested or raped and we do have religious and moral compasses. Not every hooker is exploited or forced into this life at an average age of 13, I myself have never met one of those women and we actually choose this career and enjoy it. Seems they are generalizing us all but forgetting about the highly respected soccer mom who is fucking her kids coach, her husband's brother and best friend while she's taking zanex by the handful because she can't cope with the struggles of being a stay at home mom. We all know shopping, cooking and cleaning all day can be the worst life ever.
Well that's about it. Just had to get that off my chest. Again forgive my rant in advance but people need to know.
Joi, thank you for that post - it was heartfelt. And I agree. Providers are like any other cross section of society. There are good ones and bad ones. But because they are providers it doesn't necessarily make them a certain way.
I do my homework pretty well so I've had many good experiences in the hobby. And the kind of women I see are generally hardworking, fair, honest, and kind. They are single moms trying to make ends meet, college students with bright futures, and ladies that just didn't enjoy the traditional nine to five and chose to become their own boss. I've even met a few of the cliche'd "hooker with a heart of gold".
So, I fully agree with you that providers are awesome folk. And you young lady most certainly have your act together.
And I've dated a provider back in my past. Like any relationship - it takes lots and lots of communication, patience, understanding, and love. And it is full of pitfalls - like jealousy. But it certainly isn't impossible.
Joi, thank you for that post - it was heartfelt. And I agree. Providers are like any other cross section of society. There are good ones and bad ones. But because they are providers it doesn't necessarily make them a certain way.
I do my homework pretty well so I've had many good experiences in the hobby. And the kind of women I see are generally hardworking, fair, honest, and kind. They are single moms trying to make ends meet, college students with bright futures, and ladies that just didn't enjoy the traditional nine to five and chose to become their own boss. I've even met a few of the cliche'd "hooker with a heart of gold".
So, I fully agree with you that providers are awesome folk. And you young lady most certainly have your act together.
And I've dated a provider back in my past. Like any relationship - it takes lots and lots of communication, patience, understanding, and love. And it is full of pitfalls - like jealousy. But it certainly isn't impossible.
No explanation of myself provided. It was a general statement of fact about providers. For one to expand their thinking they have to have the lesson or knowledge of the alternative. If we don't meet them where they are (here) and bring them to our level who will, main stream media? Some still will never get the oxymoronic ideals they posses about hookers as they pay to lay next to us and somehow feel in a position of power above and over us but someone needs to give them the cheat code to get to this level. If they use it or not is up to them but a closed mouth never gets fed.
Posted By: SamanthaKillington
Small minds do exist;
"A mind full of Conclusions leave no room for Expansion"
I'd be very happy to date a provider, active or retired. I would enjoy hearing about her sessions, I know I'm bent.
I'd want to participate in a gang bang with her. I'm not gay, or curious, it's just the thought of watching her get off multiple times.
I'm not a jealous person, jealousy is an ugly and completely useless emotion. So, if she can handle it, I can.
I spent some time with a provider who has a SO whom she freely told me about during the down time, and she told me if he could be he'd be in the closet watching us. I said "I would too", I'm a voyuer so that would be awesome. I'd bet that at the very least he has a camera set up at her incall, she only does incall and its at an apartment.
I'd be very happy to date a provider, active or retired. I would enjoy hearing about her sessions, I know I'm bent.
I'd want to participate in a gang bang with her. I'm not gay, or curious, it's just the thought of watching her get off multiple times.
I'm not a jealous person, jealousy is an ugly and completely useless emotion. So, if she can handle it, I can.
I spent some time with a provider who has a SO whom she freely told me about during the down time, and she told me if he could be he'd be in the closet watching us. I said "I would too", I'm a voyuer so that would be awesome. I'd bet that at the very least he has a camera set up at her incall, she only does incall and its at an apartment.
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