Ever slip up and say fuck, I'm going in, once you get to know a provider well enough and are both comfortable with each other?
Guilty!

details, my date was getting hot and heavy, spooning, touching, feeling, tickling... I said now is the time to get that cover... she said I don't want it... I said FUCK IT, let's go...

Publicly admit you are a douche, it’s smart to use an alias.  However, it doesn’t make you any less of a douche.

Regardless of how well you know a lady you still need to ask permission for something as dangerous and potentially as traumatizing as that. I’m not even saying you shouldn’t do BBFS, but I’m definitely saying you shouldn’t just assume BBFS is on the menu, especially if it’s with a girl you apparently know well and are comfortable with. Talk about taking advantage of a woman who trusted you not to be a complete asshole.  

for the record, she said to, said SHE didn't want it, would never just do something like that!

And it's easy to get into a comfort zone with a regular, complete with trust. However, if she's done it with you, she's probably done it with others.

He specifically states that he requested the cover,  and SHE said no.

Or just his OP? If you read both, I don't see how anyone would get "rape" when it is viewed in its full context.

Thank you Jack!
Yes, to be clear it was at her request and suggestion!

of posts you have made here--clearly you care much, much more about quantity than quality.  Normally your posts are incoherent, written very poorly, and are difficult to understand, let along ascertain any concrete message.

Maybe not my best moment but things happen...

Point we’ll taken... but I CANT be the only one.... maybe the only one to admit it though.

BBBJ is risky enough but I'm not a hypocrite. I want it, I love it, and I do it.

Sounded more like saying he was a dumb ass but maybe hoping others would confess too and help him deal with the mental agony.

You think you’re the only special one she’s doing it with? Think again!! That girl is fucking sooo many guys a week.. you’re one of many and if she’s doing bare then you all are getting diseases, if you don’t care about catching HIV and STDs then go right ahead and do it, but if you actually care about your health then don’t trust these hookers!!

You can read the various boards. A number of people here have admitted to having BBFS over the years.

It must be killing you to have to agree with me.  Throwing in the personal attack doesn't make your agreement any less of an agreement.  

But it's been with providers where our relationship has gone from hooker/john to GF/BF.  

Kgirlfriend  a few years ago that went bare with me on the outside, but told me if I wanted to see her at work, I had to wear a condom like everyone else.  She said going bare with me when she was working was disrespectful to her other customers.  It was a bit annoying, but I had to admit she had the most personal integrity of any hooker I have met.  I had to settle for spending the night at her place, and having sex before she left her apartment for work at the incall location about five miles away.    

There is a well reviewed almost legendary provider here. For more than a few  time I want to see her but it looked like she goes BB and I decided  this is never worth the risk.

So may I ask? If for some reason if you're at her pad and you slip on the jimmy for whatever reason did you leave her $250 or whatever her rate is by the nightstand before she went to work??
And I was going to sarcastically say something shitty , like.."Look, a KGirl with morals" or something crapping like that...But as I was reflecting, i knew of someone like that. One cool Kgirl who I, till this day admire and have the utmost respect.

The first time she invited me to her place after a strictly social day out with her, I didn't know if I was going o get laid or not, but I was still prepared to pay is she wanted me to, and I did bring a jimmy in case she didn't have any at home.  However, after we had a few drinks and started making out, things progressed to the bedroom.  We got naked and took a shower together, a little foreplay,  I reached for the condom, and she said I only had to use that if I wanted to, so I didn't.  Afterward, she told me if we're at my place or her place, or traveling together, I don't have to use a cover, but I do if I see her at work.  So I offered an envelope, and she said, "If you're going to be my real-life boyfriend, then you don't have to pay any more."  I said, "In that case, I  WILL be your real-life boyfriend."  She thought that was pretty funny.

I am a physician. While it has been offered a few times, have never indulged even though its tempting and the risk, relatively speaking if the lady is mot high volume, slight.  My wife was with me when a nationally known and highly ranked provider offered it, my wife was ok with it if i wanted it.  I still passed.  

Big difference.

bring my own condoms, for a variety of reasons.  We are all human and even the priciest, most delicious lady can have a memory lapse, or whatever.  Once I am there, do not want to leave disappointed, simply because of a lack of "condom availability."

Wowzas.  Do the math on this one.  Approaching 1K reviews x (20 guys seen per review posted) x (average guy seen has seen 200 ladies) x (each of those ladies has seen hundreds of guys) ... and ... well just the thought of that made me lose my hard on.  And if she is doing what GaGa suggests then she can't be that hot or she would be getting 10/10 reviews vs. 7/10 reviews.  Now what was that other lady saying in a different thread about McDonald's?

a provider allows BBFS just by looking.  If you go in for DATY, and you LOOK and SEE that there is jizz dripping out of her VJ from the last customer, then I would say its almost certain that she allows BBFS.

If you do the math, she is probably making over a quarter million a year. Whatever you think of her, she's probably laughing her way to the bank.

Whatever floats the boat.  Probably more than that.

Some women are professionals, and then there is Gina. When I say professional, I mean she’s a real professional, this is her job, she has a retirement account.  

I heard that some providers who are going bb are taking this .But this more than HIV, it goes from gonorrhea, syphilis to hepatitis, herpes.

No. No. No. No. No.  

I did a 3 some with NYC Gina a few years back.  

offer BBFS individually almost always used condoms in a three-way.   The only question is whether the ladies require a condom CHANGE when the customer goes from penetrating one and then the other.  Its kind of nuisance to keep swapping covers out, but I can't say I blame the ladies for requiring it.  After all, if Gina was known for BBFS, probably would not want the condom worn by the customer going back and forth between the two of you.  It could cause a transference to you via the customer  that you didn't sign up for.  

I will not gamble in that way. Everyone in this game clients and providers are considered high risk by the CDC. This risk is mitigated by condoms/female condoms. Without the rain jacket it is a matter of time before your exposed to something you don't want. If a person in this game is willing to go bareback with you they are likely going to be willing to do so with others. They intern are likely do so with yet more people. This casts a wide net of possible places STDs can come from. Condoms are not fun or sexy but they greatly reduce ones risk both getting something nasty or having to be a daddy and all that comes with that.

BBFS is a slippery slope !

My wife (who is a retired sex worker) and I went raw dog while she was a provider. But as I was not a client, it was different, as I am reasonable sure I was the only one she was riding bareback with. We both still hobby, and I still will go minus the condom with her. But no way, would I go minus the cover with anyone I am paying, is she will Bareback me she is likely barebacking other clients as well. That is way too much risk for this humorless fuck. Going raw with a SO who happens to be a sex worker who you trust not to be going raw with her clients is not the same as being a client and going raw with a sex worker you know are going raw with her clients as that is you.  

Aren't train wrecks fun?

But yes, train wrecks with fools can indeed be fun.

...This time about threesomes and female condoms, despite your pontificating about FC2s:

the attraction for some.  Lol

And how do you know this for sure...see her doc every 2 weeks? Do you accompany her to each and every one of her doc appts?

Gotta say ...got a laugh out of me with that cdl

Of course, I attend every private medical/sex visit she makes with him . . .  

I’ve had condoms break multiple times over the years  so i guess ive had accidental bbfs.   The 1st time it happened i freaked out, stopped the session, showered, left right away and worried until my test came back.   Its happened 2 subsequent times and i didnt really sweat it for some reason.   The ladies didnt seem to worried on any of the occasions.  

I don't think the girls are quite the petri dish you may think they are.  It's just prudential to cover.  I had the condom come off inside her and didn't notice at first.  She dug it out and put another one on me.  We continued.
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I'm more worried about becoming baby daddy that getting something that can be cured by antibiotics.  

I prefer to pay for my session up front, not on the installment plan for years and years.

We used female condoms.

I had did not.  I will confirm that up front next time.

Man up!  Get snipped!  

ok to lighten the mood on a very serious subject.   back in the 90's  had a new GF .. back then hetero couples only used condoms for birth control. .. well her on the pill so no need ..  so we are FUCKING .. and i mean serious ball slapping, back sweating, choking, black and blue pubic bone in the morning sex.    it was amazing ...  first time in my life that kind of intense sex ..  ok so the third weekend of BBFS ... i wake up with a noticeable red growth on the side of my shaft.   Shit !  

This is back in the 70s before AIDS was a thing and most gals did bareback.

I'm not feeling it right now at 61, but when I'm 70, I might want to father another child with a hot 20-something.  Many celebrities in SoCal say its the thing to do.  Lol

At that age you might be dead and gone by the time a son would need your fatherly advice.  I would have trouble with the concept of creating a kid and not being there to raise him (or her) to adulthood when they become independent.

gets around without a cane or a walker, and I'm in much better shape than he was at 61, but if I thought I wouldn't live to be 90, then I agree it would be hard on the kid.  You have my word, Lester, if I decide to have another child, I will do it by the time I'm 70.  Lol

our secret, Tini.  Lol

I would have loved to get a glimpse.

I dated a kgirl who I first met in the hobby as well. BBFS during our time together. I never saw her at work though, after the initial meetings when I was a paying client.

I have just like you. Ever since I was a teenager till whenever. If you're gonna vilify me, cast stones,  wtf-ever, you know I know you don't report everything you do you fucking hypocrites!

and in their very next post they start talking about their kids. lol

Funny   I had the same thing a while back from a bbbj  Burst blood vessel on the purple helmet  Went away in 3 or 4 days

Yes it happens.