You can read the various boards. A number of people here have admitted to having BBFS over the years.
I suspect some of the "you should never do that" comes from those hoping to get others to follow the always cover rule so they feel safer about their own lapses. And it is also certain that, unless there are serious mitigating factors -- like she always required you to be covered until sometimes after the two of you got serious off the clock, and the made you sign an agreement that you will never go unprotected if you see other women (provider or otherwise) -- she is allowing BBFS with other guys she is comfortable with.Ever slip up and say fuck, I'm going in, once you get to know a provider well enough and are both comfortable with each other?
Guilty!
details, my date was getting hot and heavy, spooning, touching, feeling, tickling... I said now is the time to get that cover... she said I don't want it... I said FUCK IT, let's go...
Publicly admit you are a douche, it’s smart to use an alias. However, it doesn’t make you any less of a douche.
of posts you have made here--clearly you care much, much more about quantity than quality. Normally your posts are incoherent, written very poorly, and are difficult to understand, let along ascertain any concrete message.
But, finally, you HAVE posted something I can agree with and something that makes complete sense.
Please let me in on your secret. Which of you great grandchildren helped you figure this one out?
Maybe not my best moment but things happen...
It must be killing you to have to agree with me. Throwing in the personal attack doesn't make your agreement any less of an agreement.
our secret, Tini. Lol
I would have loved to get a glimpse.
Steph XO
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Regardless of how well you know a lady you still need to ask permission for something as dangerous and potentially as traumatizing as that. I’m not even saying you shouldn’t do BBFS, but I’m definitely saying you shouldn’t just assume BBFS is on the menu, especially if it’s with a girl you apparently know well and are comfortable with. Talk about taking advantage of a woman who trusted you not to be a complete asshole.
for the record, she said to, said SHE didn't want it, would never just do something like that!
He specifically states that he requested the cover, and SHE said no.
Or just his OP? If you read both, I don't see how anyone would get "rape" when it is viewed in its full context.
I think the OP is just telling us he is being a smart ass, not a felon.
Thank you Jack!
Yes, to be clear it was at her request and suggestion!
Sounded more like saying he was a dumb ass but maybe hoping others would confess too and help him deal with the mental agony. 
And it's easy to get into a comfort zone with a regular, complete with trust. However, if she's done it with you, she's probably done it with others.
Point we’ll taken... but I CANT be the only one.... maybe the only one to admit it though.
You can read the various boards. A number of people here have admitted to having BBFS over the years.
I suspect some of the "you should never do that" comes from those hoping to get others to follow the always cover rule so they feel safer about their own lapses.
And it is also certain that, unless there are serious mitigating factors -- like she always required you to be covered until sometimes after the two of you got serious off the clock, and the made you sign an agreement that you will never go unprotected if you see other women (provider or otherwise) -- she is allowing BBFS with other guys she is comfortable with.
Kgirlfriend a few years ago that went bare with me on the outside, but told me if I wanted to see her at work, I had to wear a condom like everyone else. She said going bare with me when she was working was disrespectful to her other customers. It was a bit annoying, but I had to admit she had the most personal integrity of any hooker I have met. I had to settle for spending the night at her place, and having sex before she left her apartment for work at the incall location about five miles away.
So may I ask? If for some reason if you're at her pad and you slip on the jimmy for whatever reason did you leave her $250 or whatever her rate is by the nightstand before she went to work??
And I was going to sarcastically say something shitty , like.."Look, a KGirl with morals" or something crapping like that...But as I was reflecting, i knew of someone like that. One cool Kgirl who I, till this day admire and have the utmost respect.
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The first time she invited me to her place after a strictly social day out with her, I didn't know if I was going o get laid or not, but I was still prepared to pay is she wanted me to, and I did bring a jimmy in case she didn't have any at home. However, after we had a few drinks and started making out, things progressed to the bedroom. We got naked and took a shower together, a little foreplay, I reached for the condom, and she said I only had to use that if I wanted to, so I didn't. Afterward, she told me if we're at my place or her place, or traveling together, I don't have to use a cover, but I do if I see her at work. So I offered an envelope, and she said, "If you're going to be my real-life boyfriend, then you don't have to pay any more." I said, "In that case, I WILL be your real-life boyfriend." She thought that was pretty funny.
I dated a kgirl who I first met in the hobby as well. BBFS during our time together. I never saw her at work though, after the initial meetings when I was a paying client.
But it's been with providers where our relationship has gone from hooker/john to GF/BF.
Yes, there are a lot of providers who will go BB with multiple clients, but not for FREE. As long as you are still paying her you are still a client/trick/john and what she does with you she undoubtedly does with other clients. Once she stops taking your money, you can be assured you actually are "special" in her life. Until then, what she does with you she almost certainly is doing with other clients.
My wife (who is a retired sex worker) and I went raw dog while she was a provider. But as I was not a client, it was different, as I am reasonable sure I was the only one she was riding bareback with. We both still hobby, and I still will go minus the condom with her. But no way, would I go minus the cover with anyone I am paying, is she will Bareback me she is likely barebacking other clients as well. That is way too much risk for this humorless fuck. Going raw with a SO who happens to be a sex worker who you trust not to be going raw with her clients is not the same as being a client and going raw with a sex worker you know are going raw with her clients as that is you.
So I guess we agree. Damn, I haven't been a part of a train wreck in years.
Aren't train wrecks fun?
But yes, train wrecks with fools can indeed be fun.
BBBJ is risky enough but I'm not a hypocrite. I want it, I love it, and I do it.
But BBFS. It's 2020. Do you have a significant other? "Honey I'm home and look what I have for you....
Are you going to get tested. Do you want to be called "Daddy"?
The risk is just not worth it and that is why the classy providers don't do it. It's against the law in Nevada brothels for a reason.,
IMHO
You think you’re the only special one she’s doing it with? Think again!! That girl is fucking sooo many guys a week.. you’re one of many and if she’s doing bare then you all are getting diseases, if you don’t care about catching HIV and STDs then go right ahead and do it, but if you actually care about your health then don’t trust these hookers!!
There is a well reviewed almost legendary provider here. For more than a few time I want to see her but it looked like she goes BB and I decided this is never worth the risk.
There is a well reviewed almost legendary provider here. For more than a few time I want to see her but it looked like she goes BB and I decided this is never worth the risk.
Big difference.
Here is who he "could" have been talking about. Read a few of her reviews and then tell me that it doesn't "look like" she does BB. lol
Wowzas. Do the math on this one. Approaching 1K reviews x (20 guys seen per review posted) x (average guy seen has seen 200 ladies) x (each of those ladies has seen hundreds of guys) ... and ... well just the thought of that made me lose my hard on. And if she is doing what GaGa suggests then she can't be that hot or she would be getting 10/10 reviews vs. 7/10 reviews. Now what was that other lady saying in a different thread about McDonald's?
If you do the math, she is probably making over a quarter million a year. Whatever you think of her, she's probably laughing her way to the bank.
Whatever floats the boat. Probably more than that.
Some women are professionals, and then there is Gina. When I say professional, I mean she’s a real professional, this is her job, she has a retirement account.
She offers that service and has friends that provide that service with her as well. She also does things far freakier than mere BBFS. She is always on time, she always provides a great incall (fully equipped incall);she provides video with SD card (free of charge); if there is something you want (lingerie, a special sex toy, a special apparatus or sex furniture) she orders it and pays for it in advance and you reimburse if it’s expensive (if it’s cheap, she doesn’t worry about it generally). I’ve left something at her incall, and she’s dropped it off (not easy in NYC) out of her way, no charge - no nickel and diming. She knows the menus and limits of her friends and takes responsibility for their performance (or lack there of). She does serious BDSM, and serious water-sports.
Her thing is not the sex, I find her skills good but average; but I am not aware of any limits that she has. What she excels at is her total devotion to fulfilling your fantasy, whatever it is . . . I’ve never met a provider that does that, not at her level or with that attention to detail. She builds trust and does not judge but approaches your perversions with enthusiasm.
The reason she can do this is that her Gyno sees her every two weeks, tests her and partakes in BBFS (I presume at a steep discount for medical services). To do what she does at her volume for as long as she’s done it speaks volumes about her judgement and her system.
I did a 3 some with NYC Gina a few years back.
We all used condoms.
offer BBFS individually almost always used condoms in a three-way. The only question is whether the ladies require a condom CHANGE when the customer goes from penetrating one and then the other. Its kind of nuisance to keep swapping covers out, but I can't say I blame the ladies for requiring it. After all, if Gina was known for BBFS, probably would not want the condom worn by the customer going back and forth between the two of you. It could cause a transference to you via the customer that you didn't sign up for.
...This time about threesomes and female condoms, despite your pontificating about FC2s:
These days, it's 'de rigueur' to use female condoms for threesomes. Each provider uses an FC2 so there's no need for "a condom CHANGE when the customer goes from penetrating one and then the other." There's no "nuisance to keep swapping covers out" with FC2s. You wouldn't know that because you only see cut-rate K-girls who aren't going to spend $2.00 for a female condom.
But you claim to have ordered them yourself:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-12/many-older-guys-----961417?page=
If that's so, why haven't you brought female condoms with you to a threesome with your low rent K-girls? Either you've never had a threesome, despite your "expert" advice about it, or you've never ordered FCs. Either way I smell bullshit.
We used female condoms.
I had did not. I will confirm that up front next time.
And how do you know this for sure...see her doc every 2 weeks? Do you accompany her to each and every one of her doc appts?
Of course, I attend every private medical/sex visit she makes with him . . .
Obviously that's on what she said. It came up, in conversation (not actually within a direct negotiation), and she mentioned she got tested very frequently. Incredulously I mentioned that seemed quite expensive, and that's when I learned that not only was the Gyno seeing her at the friends and family rate, but he put his guaranteed his work by partaking. When you think about it . . . other than medical ethics, I have no idea why this isn't standard practice; beats paying out with no insurance.
a provider allows BBFS just by looking. If you go in for DATY, and you LOOK and SEE that there is jizz dripping out of her VJ from the last customer, then I would say its almost certain that she allows BBFS.
I am a physician. While it has been offered a few times, have never indulged even though its tempting and the risk, relatively speaking if the lady is mot high volume, slight. My wife was with me when a nationally known and highly ranked provider offered it, my wife was ok with it if i wanted it. I still passed.
bring my own condoms, for a variety of reasons. We are all human and even the priciest, most delicious lady can have a memory lapse, or whatever. Once I am there, do not want to leave disappointed, simply because of a lack of "condom availability."
While this has never happened to me, always want to be careful. My time is valuable to me and am sure the lady feels the same way about hers.
I heard that some providers who are going bb are taking this .But this more than HIV, it goes from gonorrhea, syphilis to hepatitis, herpes.
No. No. No. No. No.
Are you trying to get yourself blacklisted and never able to see another provider ever again?
I will not gamble in that way. Everyone in this game clients and providers are considered high risk by the CDC. This risk is mitigated by condoms/female condoms. Without the rain jacket it is a matter of time before your exposed to something you don't want. If a person in this game is willing to go bareback with you they are likely going to be willing to do so with others. They intern are likely do so with yet more people. This casts a wide net of possible places STDs can come from. Condoms are not fun or sexy but they greatly reduce ones risk both getting something nasty or having to be a daddy and all that comes with that.
BBFS is a slippery slope !
the attraction for some. Lol
Gotta say ...got a laugh out of me with that cdl
I’ve had condoms break multiple times over the years so i guess ive had accidental bbfs. The 1st time it happened i freaked out, stopped the session, showered, left right away and worried until my test came back. Its happened 2 subsequent times and i didnt really sweat it for some reason. The ladies didnt seem to worried on any of the occasions.
I don't think the girls are quite the petri dish you may think they are. It's just prudential to cover. I had the condom come off inside her and didn't notice at first. She dug it out and put another one on me. We continued.
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I'm more worried about becoming baby daddy that getting something that can be cured by antibiotics.
I prefer to pay for my session up front, not on the installment plan for years and years.
I'm not feeling it right now at 61, but when I'm 70, I might want to father another child with a hot 20-something. Many celebrities in SoCal say its the thing to do. Lol
At that age you might be dead and gone by the time a son would need your fatherly advice. I would have trouble with the concept of creating a kid and not being there to raise him (or her) to adulthood when they become independent.
gets around without a cane or a walker, and I'm in much better shape than he was at 61, but if I thought I wouldn't live to be 90, then I agree it would be hard on the kid. You have my word, Lester, if I decide to have another child, I will do it by the time I'm 70. Lol
ok to lighten the mood on a very serious subject. back in the 90's had a new GF .. back then hetero couples only used condoms for birth control. .. well her on the pill so no need .. so we are FUCKING .. and i mean serious ball slapping, back sweating, choking, black and blue pubic bone in the morning sex. it was amazing ... first time in my life that kind of intense sex .. ok so the third weekend of BBFS ... i wake up with a noticeable red growth on the side of my shaft. Shit !
i get dressed and run to the MD .. i drop my pants ... ok doc what did i get ... he looks for 1.5 seconds and asks .. have you had vigorous sex lately ... why yes i sheepishly say .... MD " you burst a blood vessel!!" went from scared to feeling macho in 2 seconds LOL
anyway BBFS happens in the hobby too but one has to realize the risk for 28 seconds of pleasure. Actually i have found providers far more careful than civilian girls and always appreciated the pro ladies that keep things under control and under wraps. As for me no matter what i get tested every 5 to 6 months just for peace of mind because you don't have to do full penetration to catch something .... although last time i failed one test .............the performance test 
(haha... kidding)This is back in the 70s before AIDS was a thing and most gals did bareback.
After a particularly lively session I found a big red bump on my shaft, so shuttled it off to the nearest ER for examination.
Well, the staff on duty were baffled by it. They started to call all the staff in to come stare at it. I think there was a guy with a broom in the room to as I remember it.
Finally, an older doctor strode in, took on look and said: It's a pimple folks, just pop it and get this guy out of here.
And here I live to tell the tale.
ok to lighten the mood on a very serious subject. back in the 90's had a new GF .. back then hetero couples only used condoms for birth control. .. well her on the pill so no need .. so we are FUCKING .. and i mean serious ball slapping, back sweating, choking, black and blue pubic bone in the morning sex. it was amazing ... first time in my life that kind of intense sex .. ok so the third weekend of BBFS ... i wake up with a noticeable red growth on the side of my shaft. Shit !
i get dressed and run to the MD .. i drop my pants ... ok doc what did i get ... he looks for 1.5 seconds and asks .. have you had vigorous sex lately ... why yes i sheepishly say .... MD " you burst a blood vessel!!" went from scared to feeling macho in 2 seconds LOL
anyway BBFS happens in the hobby too but one has to realize the risk for 28 seconds of pleasure. Actually i have found providers far more careful than civilian girls and always appreciated the pro ladies that keep things under control and under wraps. As for me no matter what i get tested every 5 to 6 months just for peace of mind because you don't have to do full penetration to catch something .... although last time i failed one test .............the performance test
Funny I had the same thing a while back from a bbbj Burst blood vessel on the purple helmet Went away in 3 or 4 days
I have just like you. Ever since I was a teenager till whenever. If you're gonna vilify me, cast stones, wtf-ever, you know I know you don't report everything you do you fucking hypocrites!
Like I said on a previous post. I'm proud of the people that inhabit this place and cuz of. Still doesn't mean I'm ignorant to wtf actually goes on here and there.
If you believe everyone, everytime practices safe sex, you're a fucking idiot.
You can tell me, in the heat of passion, every fucking time, you used something?
I'll give you 7 out of 10 times and I'm being generous with those odds...
and in their very next post they start talking about their kids. lol
If you are saying that people lie about shit like this, (and you are) then I agree with you 100%