Discounts or specials would you like to see?

Looking for some good ideas guys.

Thanks and Hugs,

Tammy

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This week only.... free game of chess after each session...

Tammy, I like the idea of extra time for the donation. I like to get to know you better. It just makes the session go smoother. I also never mind $50 off the regular donation. Let me know when you are travelling to LA.

Granted, she still gives me 90+ minutes for her regular rate, but I may not have ever seen her had she not offered the original special. Since we enjoy each others company, I think it was a win-win for both of us. I am continually surprised by the ladies who complain about business being slow and then remain so strict on their time/rate ratio.

She makes me think she can stay with me as long as I want with her regular rate.But because I play during my lunch she knows I have to be back at the office so she lets me think I'm in control.What a sweetheart.Our sessions last anywhere from 90 min-2 hrs.Perceptions is everything.
Adios

I used to see a lady that charged $200 for the first visit, but only $100 for all follow-up visits (this was 5 years ago, so adjust for inflation).  She liked regulars and the safety and extra fun that was possible, so she would tell you right up front that was her pricing structure.  What she didn't like was going to a lot of trouble screening and emailing guys who would only see her once.  She felt it was in her best interest to offer a significant incentive to encourage regular visits since she no longer had to worry about who you were or what you might do.  It worked too, because even though she really wasn't a favorite of mine, I did go back many times and got to know her better and eventually got quite fond of her.  

Similarly, most other providers I've seen more than say three times, usually offerd a discount, which I really appreciated.  I enjoy repeat visits when I find a lady with whom I really click, so it's welcomed.

But if your objective is to generate new business, especially when things are a little slow, or you're new to the area, etc., nothing beats a discounted hourly rate to get some action.  This will generate the most incremental business, and probably get you visibility with a lot of new faces.

There are some psychological price breaks, and you'd be amazed what a drop of only $75-100 will do to generate interest when you go below these price points.  And of course, you'll make it up long-term.  If some of the new guys are people you'd like to see again, then you can always offer some discount for being a regular later, at your discretion.

If you want to go another way, take a cue from the many customer loyalty programs being used today.  Keep your normal rate, but offer the fourth session free (for example) after the first three at your usual rate.  This makes sense because your out of pocket cost for the free session is almost zero.  And unless you're very busy (which you're probably aren't if you're running a special),  there's no opportunity cost due to lost business.  You keep your rate the same, and since many people won't make it to the fourth session (just human nature) it will  cost you very little.

This approach still gets people in the door, but defers the payout of the "incentive" until the end, after you've already benefitted from the three previous visits.  Plus, if you're worried about "price shoppers" who just chase deals, this technique is particularly good at avoiding a big up-front discount to guys you may never see again.

Another cue from business it that most companies find that incentives need to be varied in order to maintain their effectiveness.  A continuous incentive is a price reduction, not an incentive.  So mixing it up a little bit increases effectiveness and motivates more because the incentive is viewed as special (temporary).

Good luck with whatever you try, and I appreciate the fact that you are thinking creatively in response to the current business environment.

Interesting topic regarding complaining provider with tight fees.

If you are a new client then don't expect a discount, but if you are a regular then expect what ever your little heart desire but remember a favor for a favor. Hpygolky I like your girfriend method and your attitude toward her tactic.(she is a smart lady)I know how to play the game because i'm a smart lady myself.

First let me explain that I am not a complaining provider, but I rarely discount my fees, I'm sorry but I'm not going to give all for nothing, because first of all...Speaking for myself if I may please. I am cheap from the start as a FS provider with true picture of myself which do not do me justice and top reviews.

I give more then of myself to everyone of my clients....No matter what the day is like. If I can't give superior top norch quality, FS Service, which include extra time, double-tripple pops, light massage, shower, free drinks, free food, plenty of conversation and sometime offer free stay if they choose a late appointment then I don't give any service at all.

Although when I do get the bargin hunter who request discounts, and longer time not even considering the fact that I just might have another appointment booked. I just tell them right up front that what I advertise is true and I only discount:

1)If they are long-time regular customers (per HootOwl or (2-4 times a month) and I am their ATF

2)If they are making a special trip to see me traveling 100miles or more.

3)If they visit me durning my monthly vacation(lol)

4)If they want a dinner date and a late visit.

So if they want to bargin hunt-Why even call me from the start when my web page post my fees and speaks very loud about me, myself and I.. "Oh and other"

What can I say I'm performanceperfe and I am not a ripoff so don't rip me off. Sorry just my 2ct. So flame me.



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ruth i like your posts. you come at things with a steady sense of yourself.

i don't think the biz school analysis of opportunity costs and all that gets at the *personal service* problem here: if you set low prices to get a customer, it's hard to raise them; and pricing meant to get clients is different from pricing meant to *keep* clients (assuming you want this particular rover to hang around).

ruth comes at it from the keep client side, she has a variety of strategies to induce repeat visits, because that means she won't have to pay the new client "customer acquisition costs" of screening, scheduling, missed appointments, risk of abuse, hassle with unpleasant people, and all the rest. all of those frustrating experiences are just likely to compromise what she values most in her service, her *sweet attitude* ... and her methods help her build a personal relation, which emphasizes her personality.

lowering prices outright means that you're willing to accept all those costs in order to raise your immediate cash flow or market share, which also exposes you to a lower quality clientele. it's quite well known in consumer businesses that "trial incentives" or inducements to first time customers produce on average much lower quality (financially), less loyal, more complaining and lower repeat customers as well. even so, a business will do that because it has creditors knocking or because it hopes to drive one or more higher quality competitors out of the market in the short term, and absorb their high quality customers after they're gone. that's very dicey logic in a market serviced almost entirely by small independent providers competing on appearance, services, personality, companionship, location, ambience, safety and price -- a complex bundle of attributes.

to tammy's question: your best recourse may be to bite the bullet and relocate, after touring likely locations to check them out, or consider different ways to advertise. your web site, for example, doesn't seem to say alot about who you are, what you like, how you entertain, etc. information can be an incentive, too.

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Talk about *sweet attitude*

Thank you very much...


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…with both Performancperfect's and drollere's business acumen. On the other hand, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with an introductory offer for a short, well defined period of time. drollere is correct in that it is a common business practice to generate some quick revenue. The acquisition costs are there, as drollere stated, but you could find 1 or 2 gentlemen who will become valued regulars, while you are increasing your immediate income.

Why not peak some interest and push those who may be on the edge of the purchase cycle, over?

riker sweetie you are correct, you could find 1 or 2 gentlemen who will become valued regulars, while you are increasing your immediate income. I forgot to mention that I have gotten a few, but not by dropping my fee to a discount rate. They agreed to my posted fee because I was kind and gentle with them.

Ruth

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There's been a lot of interesting & good responses already, but I'd like to add a couple of my personal observations.

First of all, I likely wouldn't be attracted to an offer of discounted dollars..if anything, I would probably shy away from it.  If I were to be attacted by a "discount" offer, it would be only one for extra time.  And I think the dollar-discount might prove is some cases to be problematical for the lady if she wanted repeat biz (& I'm not interested in any gal that doesn't) because there would have to be many guys who would expect to pay the same on a repeat visit.

I am a "repeater" if the chemistry & all that goes into it is right.  As such a client these are the things that have keep me going back (in no particular order):  I'm grand-fathered in terms of future rate increases; I receive time that I didn't actually "pay" for; I'm treated as though I'm someone a little special to her, whatever that might entail, but certainly does mean that we simply enjoy the time spent together in a non-sexual way.  All of these things, when they happen, are never something that I've asked for, or even expected..in fact they've never even been discussed, & it's better that way.  I look upon such situations as a gift, one given because the giver simply wanted to..not because an obligation to do so was felt.  Why they are given, when they are, I do not question..why should I?  I simply appreciate & enjoy to the fullest!  All these things (refering to another recent thread) are what make my ATF my ATF.  

I am still just getting started in the business and I would really like to get reviewed, however, some men seem to be a bit apprehensive about posting on this site, so I'm giving a discounted visit if the gentleman posts a review of me for my website and an additional discounted visit if he posts a review on the TER site.  I'm hoping it jumpstarts my business AND gets me reviewed quicker.

You probably arent trying to do anything dishonest, but this sort of thing is typically frowned upon by the authorities here.

It leads of questions of buying reviews.

Ok I didn't consider that so I've changed the site.  Thanks for sharing.

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Reiscounts for Reviews

It is a bad idea all around.  Your intentions are good, but as the post below states it is frowned upon and in addition compromises the integrity of what the reviews are suppose to be about.  

I welcome reviews, but refuse to talk about it with clients.  If they choose to...great...if not...great also.  At this point I have enough out there so that everyone has a good idea of what I am about.  I feel in doing this, not one of my reviews can come into question about being compromised in any way.

Starting out, requires patience.  They will come, although it may feel like forever (Been there).  There will be those that will try and barter for a review,  I would advise you to refuse to see any gent that would do so.  Anyone that would try and use it, doesn't have any integrity and should not be posting reviews to begin with.  

Just another 2 cents!

Lauren

Reiscounts for Reviews

Thanks Lauren.  I appreciate your input.  I'll just be patient and wait for things to happen.

I have seen a number of ads for mother/daughter teams as well as sister teams.  How many of them do you think are legit vs two ladies getting together on a good marketing strategy?

I have a favorite provider who sometimes brings a friend at no extra charge. I have always found two girls fun but not worth 2x the price. When business is slow I would suggest that two providers who are friends could call their respective customers and offer a two- girl special for maybe 1.25x the cost of one.
That way if they each bring in one they earn 2.5x from clients who would have stayed home otherwise. When two girls share one man he usually finshes faster and so they do less work. At least that has been my experience.

the time for my pleasure.

I am not questioning any one advertisement in particular but just making a general observation.  I have seen ladies who had individual ads as well as a separate twosome ad with their sister.  The two ladies in the ads were as much sisters as you and I are brothers.

Please don't go that route. Lauren is 100% correct. I am sure you are a lady with class and you do not need cheap reviews. In due time your reviews will come. Great service bring honest reviews and also not so great reviews. I've only been in the biz since OCT and still consider myself a newbie.  "LQQk@menow" love by one loved by all. Per riker Looks like it's turning into a gang bang But if you guys don't mind, I'd rather have Ruth to myself.

If only I can get my "cyber gentleman friends" to fly this way to visit me so I can show them how I appreciate their support and friendship here. (Thanks to TER Staff) If only these guys  knew I would give them a full day of tender loving care including a light massage, a round of golf 9 or 18 hoes, dinner and an all nighter for only 1 hrly fee (hum did I say I do not give discounts) Would you consider this to be a discount?  Would this be a reason for a review. U bet ya


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Reiscounts for Reviews

Thanks guys for replying to this.  They are correct.  Discounts for reviews can cause the provider and reviewer to be banned from TER forever.  Please just allow the reviews to happen.  They will.

-- Staff