My experience in this world has taken me from the hour dates to now multiple hour dates, dinner dates, overnights and travel dates. I have moved from a roll in the sheets to now full blown events with multiple providers as well as a complete list of supporting cast members. I have learned that a dream is but a dream unless others participate. My events have become more and more elaborate as I now live out my provider's fantasies and not just my own.  

There are many guys whose fantasy would like to be Hugh Heffner.  You might be unique when it comes to asking a woman for a 360.

To each his own but, to me, your way sounds like way too much work.  Glad you're having fun though.  Personally, I've enjoyed the friendships that have evolved with a select few women.

asking someone to write down something about your time together is a bit creepy on the face of it, concerns about blackmail and worse being what they are.

I never thought of the Hugh Heffner experience. I have done a few adventures with fellow pooners and those can be fun as well. For some providers the 360 is nothing more than a thank you for a great time and what they liked. For others, it is a recollection through their eyes. I have learned what is of importance to and how to make my adventures more enjoyable.

Yes, Jake, it can be a lot of work but I do have others that help me. Concegiare and some providers will help with details. I have a personal assistant who helps out and kind of likes setting it up for my providers. To be honest it can be fun like getting Christmas presents and anticipating how they will react to the event.  

and like Jake, it seems like an awful lot of work to me, for both you and the providers you hire, but each to their own.

Mr. Fisher,

Oh, Jake please do not get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with a simple role in the hay. I use to do it all the time. Only now I seek more, much more from my providers. Not saying that is right or wrong. I just enjoy it more building on the physical thing with more emotions. Yes, I know some guys might say we do not pay for emotions and it is just a physical thing. I guess for them that might be the case for me I like more. A lot more.

Fair enough Gambler.

and I certainly don't mean to piss on your parade.

over the years?  Some from past hostesses were first class parties with guides if I remember correctly...

indicators of where you stand with a hooker based on her conduct with you.  I have been guilty of a few "event"-type dates, but not of the marathon sexual variety.  Although most of my outside dates end up with an overnight at a hotel, her place, or more rarely, my place.  

I did a quick search on one of the sugar sites for both of them and while the pickings were rather slim in Paris KY, the women were anything but slim. Paris TX OTOH did have a few "doable" girls on the site. There is also a Paris TN, but it wasn't any more promising than Paris KY. lol

Gambler I think you miss the point as it is about the event and how they felt about the event. What they liked and what they disliked and how they felt about participating.  

I thought the 360 was a euphemism for getting pegged.

Wanting a fantasy is MUCH different that wanting genuine emotions.

...and as mrfisher said, we're all unique in our own way. To answer your questions... yes, the types of women and the amount of time spent has evolved as I've learned more about myself during my journey on this playground... and no, I don't require any written feedback. Whether it's strange what you do is not for me to judge. Solo mis dos centavos.

...produce and direct a detailed and extravagant play!
But to each her own.

I thought he was referring to a real spinner, doing a one or more full rotations around his pole.

is always dicey.  As you say, a week can seem like two weeks because when you are 24/7 for more than about 48 hours, all of the negative things about her get exposed because they can't maintain "showtime" continuously for days without giving you a good dose of their real personality, habits, and peculiarities.  My Paris trip last year actually went well because a year before she had hosted me in Seoul for five days on my way to Hong Kong for business, so I know we would be compatible and have fun together for more than just a weekend.  If I don't have some successful three-day weekends with a girl, I would never consider asking her to go anywhere for a week, even when its "free" as far as her time is concerned.  

Paris TX has an excellent junior college. Perhaps that is why there are some possibilities.
It would also be a better place than Paris Australia where a 1974 movie, The Cars That Ate Paris was filmed.

Your posts reads to me almost like you are staging an elaborate, erotic play.  I've done dinner dates, overnights, and even a few trips but nothing as elaborate as yours.  But I am content in those situations to let the provider be herself to whatever extent she feels comfortable with.

Send that gal's contact info please!

"360" report would be either a load of inflammatory, suck-up crap, because they don't want to kill the golden goose, or else a little TOO much reality.   Do you really want to hear the unvarnished truth about whether SHE had as much fun as you did?  As others have said, it seems like a lot of work for the ladies, and they may not enjoy it all that much, but would fake it if the money was right.  Tempting them to tell you what the REALLY think seems counter-productive with a paid escort, but I think most would just tell you what they think you want to hear, i.e., that you're the Cecil B. DeMille of directing a sex scene and they can't wait to collect your money for the next one.  its like the vanity publishers.  ANYONE can write a crappy book, give the publisher $20,000, and get a hundred copies published.  THEN, you can brag you're a published author.  Ego boost and bragging rights?  Yes!  Value to anyone else?  Nil.  I think your idea of a staged scene sounds like a lot of fun, but that the train leaves the track with the written report.  Just my opinion.

Yes Vorlon, I too use to just do dinner dates, overnights, and travel dates. However, with a number of the providers, we started to dream or share fantasies and that took us to live out the fantasies and wow it to us to a whole new dimension.  

Gambler,  

Yes, Coeur-de-lion there is that aspect of it. However, ladies do give me constructive comments like they wish we could have spent more time on an event or less scripted. Or they did not like the choice of music, or the food was not to their liking. Yes I agree, some try to give me what I want to hear but it can simply them not noticing an aspect that tells me it is overkill.  

Yes, I did have had a few ladies who requested similar events and I have put on such events. If you private message me I can share the events.

I totally agree that is why I start off with an hour or two meet and greet. If that goes well I might do a dinner date. If that goes well an overnight before I take them on a travel date. But unlike you guys I do pay for her time. I might want to reconsider that. However, when it is not paid do you run into what Gambler said they start to fall in "Love with you and what you bring them" If it is paid there is no mistake about it. Just a thought!

How much depends on the event. It can be as little as 5,000 euros to 25,000 euros. It really depends on the event.  

You seriously must have a LOT of time on your hands. lmao

Lov the lady Senator, Maybe too much ink. Not sure why someone so beautiful would do that to her self it is kind of distracting. But then again to each his own. Not my place to judge.  

Next time I'll try to find tickets for a better play.

diamonds, sapphires, rubies, emeralds, etc.

Thanks for YHO. it is respectfully accepted. That is why I asked. So thanks.

My question is:

Could you possible next time spend a little more than $20 on the piano player?   I know this is a Chinese restaurant, but if I hear Chop-sticks one more time, I'm not going to cry, I'm going to puke.

who have done their share of high style wining, dining, and more.

just to say,  "WOW!",  when I drop my pants, and nothing more.  By them saying only "Wow!", I have no idea if they're thinking, "Wow, that's a monster", or "Wow, is that all there is?"  With brevity, WE can interpret it in a way that is most flattering to US.  No further explanation is necessary lest it destroy our illusions.  Lol

As of this posting there are only 827 "users online" Virtually anything you ask around here nowadays is going to get a rather muted response.

I know of at least two whose fantasy was to be with two guys at the same time.  A friend and I indulged both of them, with dinner afterwards.  Our DP, in particular, got rave reviews.  Those are the kind of bucket lists I can go for.

There's nothing wrong with getting feedback from a provider that you know and trust regarding improvements/suggestions for your next multi-hour/multi-day experience.  This is not the same as asking some robotic whore with a published list of do's and don'ts if she liked the way you DATY or what's her favorite position. I would think that a provider that is up for a multi-day event would be happy to give a little feedback on making the next experience better for both of you.

We don't pay for you to come, we pay you to leave.

He, as in the client.

Mr. Fisher what I do is not for everyone just as golden showers are not for me. I am curious if there are other guys that do the fantasy adventures. I am learning I am not the only one. It is nice to hear from a few of you that you do travel dates. I learned already that some of you are so good that ladies will not even charge you to travel with you. I never knew such a thing was possible. So it is not the quantity of the people on here as the quality.  

It was just a tip to the piano player in the restaurant. I gave it to my provider who then put it in his glass. She got a kick out of that. One of those things that came out of the 360. Who would think that was meaningful to my provider.

LOL  

Oh no Gambler,  

Yes, now you are talking!!!!!

Yes, you get it Mr. Laroche!

Pardon me, but I'll take the latter.

With a twenty dollar tip for the cocktail waitress who brought me a drink during the hand.

If you put your name or TM logo on a $10 pair of shoes that sells for $300 a pair, and sold millions of pairs a year. I think it would be foolish not to waste a million dollars gambling.

All I actually said was the I would prefer to spend his $12,000 in another way.
I don't have the time to waste rebutting your overly long and tendentious post, so I'll just suggest you go back and read my other posts on this thread.  Then feel free to shove your head back up your ass. LOL.

But now I have to call bullshit because of your slipup on the details.  Union scale for a single musician is the same for a Violin player as it is for piano player.  You paid your violin player $200 and your piano player $20.  That's B.S.  There is also a travel fee for gigs of less than four hours (I host a lot of parties, so I have experience hiring musicians).  Union scale varies across the country but in LA it's $140 for the two-hour minimum they charge for, plus the travel fee, based on mileage to your location.  

I often net only $20 for banging the ivories, and the gals do cry.  
I’m also grossly overpaid.

I have been called worst things. LOL

Jake  

Coeur-de-lion,

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."    I'm sure your adventure was real in YOUR mind.  You're right, you don't need to prove anything to me.  Just know that I'm not buying it, that's all.  Its not personal.  I'm just calling fiction what it is.  

No problem feel free to reach out to Tara Green [email protected]. the provider in question.  

....not to say they are better, but they are certainly different (apples and oranges etc)
If the pleasure you derive comes from creating experiences then who’s to say you should do anything different? There are men out there that pay for experiences that don’t involve sex (thinking fetish/mistress Dom etc) but involve creating an experience. Those scenarios are generally created by the woman so your essentially just flipping the ownership here...no biggie.  In your case because YOU are the one creating the experience I don’t think it’s odd that you are requesting feedback. Women frequently ask for feedback on the experience they provide - why shouldn’t you? Carpe diem!

This is an interesting concept.
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What would I do with minimal time and money constraints? Something a little different. I would go to LA, rent a nice apartment somewhere, get screened by the leading porn star agencies, and then just start seeing a different one every few days. Two hour appointments. Watching videos of the next one I was going to see on the days in between appointments.

are that none of these ladies are responding to me at the addresses you posted.  Are you sure they are current?  Perhaps its because they don't know me.  Since they know you, the easiest way would be if you emailed them and asked them to join this discussion, and corroborate your tale themselves.  I don't believe they are required to be VIP's to post on the boards. THEN, you can serve the crow.  Otherwise, I'm not biting on the story, nor am I biting on the crow until there is some independent corroboration.  If they really did this with you, it might lead to some additional business for them if they come on this board themselves and say how much they enjoyed it and everything happened just the way the described it.  That would be a remarkable save for you.  Bu I have a feeling we will just get more excuses like we did about the violinist, hair stylist, photographer and makeup artist, who you seem to think give a rat's ass about there being hookers in the room.  Trust me, as long as they're paid, they don't care.  

I believe all my experiences have value. I learn from them... both the good and the bad.  For me, some of my favorite experiences haven't been scripted or even planned out. They were spontaneous and the ladies and I enjoyed being in the moment.  

maybe 4xs and has gotten to know you well over the years, I have to say, that's not  the vibe you give off at all with me.

I heard back from two of the ladies and they are happy to respond to your emails. Are you sure you emailed both Tara and Sasha? Funny neither of them got your emails. Are you just blowing smoke?

Senator, thank you for your comment. I totally agree. Each experience is just that an experience. We can see them as negative or positive. They become part of our experiences. I totally agree I like my experiences to be unscripted but I do give people parts to play. However, my experiences can be viewed as completely different from my providers. I try to create romantic experiences or exciting experiences, or joyful experiences that will be memorable for them. However, a gift is only a gift if the one receiving the gift sees it as a gift.  

Coeur-de-lion, just heard back from the third lady who would be happy to share her thoughts of the event. Matter of fact here is her recollection for you to stew on.
 
"It was a beautiful, sunny afternoon and I was excited to meet my Boss for the day Mr. Dickson.

Well, thank you, my dear! Nice to see someone shares my thoughts and gets me. You made my day.

Well Barry,

A Dorian Gray complex.

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I am having a quick scroll through this thread on fantasy fulfillment. I have much to add, but would like to read more and ensure I am responding thoughtfully. But I felt I needed to quickly respond to this post. I have seen no emails from anyone asking about my recent birthday event. Perhaps you had the wrong address? [email protected]. I would be happy to answer any of your questions, please don't hesitate to reach out.  

I don't have VIP membership so can't PM. Not expecting to have the time and resources for this for the foreseeable future anyway.

"You will, mrfisher, you will."
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http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/09/05/oscar-will/

Since one of the ladies has corroborated your story, that's good enough for me.  You have my apologies for suggesting you made this all up.  

the discussion.  I think you would have to admit that this kind of experience that he described, if accurate, is rare among mainstream hobbyists, but I'm happy you found it satisfying, even if only from a financial standpoint.  May I ask how much you were paid for your participation in his fantasy date?  Others here might be interested in throwing some of this kind of business your way if they had information on what the rate was, and for how many hours duration.  Many guys are interested in roll play dates.  A number of them are close friends of mine.  As Dickson says, there are other One-percenters here, and now that you have our attention, its your opportunity to address them directly if you really like this kind of a session.  

Mr. Lion,

controlling fantasy, to tell her she can't respond to an information request from another potential customer?  If she goes along with you censoring her, with her knowing it could be costing her future business, you must be overpaying a bundle.  Just how insecure are you, anyway?  Speaking on behalf of any provider here when it comes to her business shows incredibly bad taste.  If she wants to respond to me, even if its only to say, "my rates are on my website, and here's the link", who are you to tell her she can't?

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But sanity is sometimes overrated.

Didn’t take much effort to find a recent ad with her rates. And don’t hold your breath waiting to hear what she got for there encounter, that’s between them. I’m guessing you either didn’t try contacting her, or she is ignoring you.

Your apology is accepted!

Mr. Lion, please put your roar back in the box. I am suggesting you speak to Ms. Green directly about her fee for her time about your fantasy you wish to create. It is not important to this discussion on fantasy fulfillment if I paid her $5,000 Canadian or $1,000 for her time. I can tell you this event went from 4:30 pm until about 10 AM in the morning the next day. It is not so much about the rate per hour but the fee for the fantasy and what is included.  

My dear, did you not get my PM?

I totally agree, Vorlon,

Oh sorry to hear about that. Well, we can all dream. That cost us little but time.

Jumping in first and not giving her a chance to respond herself on her own behalf.  But at this point that's yesterday's potato salad.   Things move quickly on this board.  With that said, Dickson has been PM'ing me the financial details, admittedly a more gentlemanly way to go about it than publishing it on the boards.  I should have thought of that myself, but I'm usually only a gentleman around the ladies, more of a brawler around the guys.  Lol    I have all the info I need to make an informed decision about scheduling an engagement with Ms. Green.   (Not THAT kind of engagement, just a get-together - lol)

It appears both Scarlet and Sasha have tried to jump in but can not put in a comment. Is this to old now and closed? Tara also tried again but is not able to add on more information. Do they have to be paid members to post?

Thank you Imanalias!

No u dont. Yet u have to send TER an email/request before u able to post anything.
At least that was what I had to do when first time trying to post on discussion.

for a regular membership which allows posting on the boards, but you still have to sign up as a member.  Upgrading your membership to VIP, which includes PM privileges and allows you to read "juicy details"  of the 20% of the reviews that can still be viewed, is where the fees come in.  The fees are modest in the big picture for guys spending hundreds or thousands each month on hookers.  

Thanks, Kitty,

Hello gentlemen,

Hi there,
I did write a reply yesterday. It can take a day for be approved and posted to the board.  
My rates are posted to my website.
Dickson had me for an overnight for the birthday event.

Thank you for your jumping into the "battle of fantasy fulfillment."  

*** Pardon my typo.. "to be approved" not "for be approved"....