Gross, taxable or net?

-- Modified on 9/7/2011 7:10:46 AM

Mainly aimed at the pros who have done this for a long time...

I've been sticking to 5% of my monthly income allocated to Providers but I just popped up well over 15% with a recent incident hooking up with some bar fly's in Vegas that were too good to pass up. In fact.... they drove me home and cooked me breakfast (killer breakfast) before we had a session of well over 2 hours for a duo session. Total time together was over 4 hours and a really good time...

So... my question goes along the lines that I want to continue doing this for a long, long time and I was just wondering what other hobbyists spend on a % of their monthly income??

Probably more along the lines of curiosity but I want to keep this hobby healthy...

What works for you??

My gross income is substantialy higher than my net, so I don't consider that valid.

My percentage of taxable? So far, this year, it's at about 4.5%

But are we talking provider fee? or are we including related expenses, e.g. hotels, gifts, dinners, travel?  I'm including that.

Percentage of my of net? We can define that if you think that's an interesting point, and go from there.

The percentage I think is the most interesting would be against disposable income.

I currently have an unusually high after net expendature on some family related things.

After I take all that sort of thing out of net, I have what I consider disposable, which is "me" money. I can do whatever I want with that, no regrets.

This year, I'm spending a very high amount on providers. (I'm not including strippers there.)


The reason is that my youngest was traumatized by her mom's live-in BF during a visit last year. That lead to my decision to drop civie dating and take my adult fun on the DL for the sake of my daughter - no new adults in her life.

Right now my pecentage of disposable on providers is about 70%.

One of the reasons is that I decided to explore some of my more "uncommon" adult interests; the type that take a while to buold up trust with a civie before delving into. That has gone so well, I decided to skip my other hobbies for a while go down this path.

So, my normal expendatures on the ladies are up! But I'm digging it.

If you include strippers in the mix, I'm at $95% of my disposable. I've been experimenting (quite successfully!) with picking strippers I think might "come over to the dark side" as I'm refering to this as. It's fun, and a surprisingly refreshing change from established providers.

HalfHour

forgive the typos, aint proofing my hunt'n'peck typin today

I budgeted 100k for the year in January and I'm at 85k spent thus far (including 2 overnights with ATFs through the end of the third quarter), so I'm a bit over budget; however, my travel schedule slows down during the 4th quarter and so does my hobby, so I suspect that I'll be at budget by 12/31.

Not to hijack, but another interesting stat would be what % of your provider $ went to your ATF(s) vs other providers...for me 50% split between two ATFs and the balance to others.

As to what % of my income $100k is, that's none of your business.

On an MD's salary nowadays, one can no longer shoot the moon with impunity.  I budget 10% of my take home salary to my passion.  This  makes for a weekly or bimonthly frolic.  I don't exceed the one hour tour time but since I work hard for the money I seek kindred providers.  I have been known to blow the month's tithe in one day, but later control myself for several weeks.  I find that moderation and rotation keep the experience fresh and rewarding.

Net.... even if you own a business you know your income after taxes... (or you should...)..

Lots of laughing... that's why I'm asking for % of the income and not your income....

Thanks DrDato...

Wise words of advice...

I really hope that everybody can agree that you are taking this beyond the original question....

You give us a ZZZZZZZZZZZZ followed by an answer that makes me want to ZZZZZZZZZZZZ...

It's really not that complicated.....

I respect your answer to my comment on your answer but the bottom line is.....

What is the % of your net income that you spend towards hobbying?

Long term sustainable? What % keeps you out of trouble?

It's really not that complicated to answer....

If you bring home $10K a month and you spend $1,000 a month hobbying.... that's 10% of your income...

Pretty simple....

Posted By: HalfHour

your reply would show you as humorless, or taking yourself too seriously.

If someone asked your question in live group of people, someone might very well respond as I did.  

My response was intended as a light hearted comment, which if taken seriously and responded to accordingly, I would answer accordingly.

Or, if it wastaken as a humorous quip and passed over, would be understandable and no big deal.

You obviously infer a sarcastic insultive intent, which was not the case, but perhaps understandable since, as we all know, much of true meaning in communication is lost without the benefit of voice inflection, facial expressions etc.

In your case however, I think your personal filters have contributed toward your thought that my comment was at some level disingenuous.

It was not.

My gross income is substantialy higher than my net, so without qualification, my serious answer wouldn't be much in the way of a contribution.

Also, since you didn't state what your calculations were based on I couldn't derive any understanding or value what-so-ever from your comments.

My percentage toward gross? I don't consider that valid so I'll pass on the answer.

My percentage of taxable? So far, this year, it's at about 4.5%

But are we talking provider fee? or are we including related expenses, e.g. hotels, gifts, dinners, travel?  I'm including that.

Percentage of my of net? We can define that if you think that's an interesting point, and go from there.

The percentage I think is the most interesting would be against disposable income.

What are your levels like there? I currently have an unusually high after net expendature on some family related things. I have 6 kids I have custody of and a deadbeat ex who is not much of a mom. Technically, custody of 2 under 18, but I have a adult child who is unable to care for himself, so that's a big chunk.

After I take all that sort of thing out of net, I have what I consider disposable, which is "me" money. I can do whatever I want with that, no regrets.

This year, I'm spending a very high amount on providers. (I'm not including strippers there.)
The reason is that my youngest was traumatized by her mom's live-in BF during a visit last year. That lead to my decision to drop civie dating and take my adult fun on the DL for the sake of my daughter- no new adults in her life.

Right now my pecentage of disposable on providers is about 70%. One of the reasons is that I decided to explore some of my more "uncommon" adult interests; the type that take a while to buold up trust with a civie before delving into. That has gone so well, I decided to skip my other hobbies for a while go down this path.

So, my normal expendatures on the ladies are up! But I'm digging it.

If you include strippers in the mix, I'm at $95% of my disposable. I've been experimenting (quite successfully!) with picking strippers I think might "come over to the dark side" as I'm refering to this as. It's fun, and a surprisingly refreshing change from established providers.

I'd like to hear more of the details bout your escapades.

If you've stayed awake long enough to read my novel here.


HalfHour

forgive the typos, aint proofing my hunt'n'peck typin today

I have a base home/family budget that remains untouched, spouse gets an allowance to spend as she choses, then above that is what I use for investment/play as I see fit - but my base pay covers the first 2 plus some of the third - but really my real play is dependant upon quarterly and year end bonuses.  In the current economy, those are down considerably (i.e down to about 10% of what they were in good times), hence my play is down considerably.  I sure hope the folks in DC can get their act together.

Similarly, I provide some freelance and consulting services, and that income is what I use to hobby.  The benefit is that many of these freelance gigs remain unknown to my wife, so I don't have to account for any "missing" income.

Lemme tell you somethin', Dr. Dato.  If you’re a .com baller like myself, 30k is blown in a month… along with my appendage.  Show a provider some green… they’ll bob extra hard while they weave.  And if you tell’em you’re a doc who only fixes breasts, they’ll be givin' you free half hours while you motorboat their chests.

And please don’t be separatin' gross income vs. net income and talkin' about tips and gas money while drivin' to Econo Lodge.  You know how strong a DATY cravin' can be.  If you gotta up your spendin' to calm your johnson… than do it, doc.  What will I hear next… you want a CBJ?

-Barry McCockinner
aka    HansTheGlans

McCockinner or shall I say Hans - your point is well taken.  If one need pay to play, then bring it on.  Save and splurge to quell the urge.  There is and never will be a reason to hold back.  It all does make sense when there is a properly waxed O looking you in the eye.