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Re: My condition only flares up in the presence of assholes
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“AS...(sorry!) assholes?!“
Such FOUL language.  :(
As I’m sure there are MANY like you, “jimboy,” who suffer from “A.A.C.S., I’m sure there are OTHERS who suffer similar distress upon reading such STRONG language.
I implore you, sir, to think of THEM before expressing yourself with such language.  :(
BTW - “Where WE go from here?”
I wasn’t aware WE were going ANYWHERE together, sir.
Good day.  ;)

By going over my "favorites" list, and looking over the list of local providers with the HIGHEST ratings, is when you realize what a TOLL "T.E.R." being "off-line" caused the "mongering/hobbying" community, both locally, and across the entire U.S.

A LOT of reviews are now over 2 years old.  :(

Many providers have either moved on to the next chapter of their lives, or changed their contact info ENTIRELY.  

Wonder how long it will take for the "community" to get back to NORMAL, or if it's even possible for the community to EVER get back to a semblance of "normal" here in the U.S...  :(

Ok.  If we must.   It will take a bit of time for former members to reengage.   I didn’t see a news story that TER is back.   It’s too soon to tell if the cumminity cums back here.

There are already some members I knew before that have come back.  During the downtime, they would just try to login a couple times a month to see if anything changed, and in December, they all got lucky.  A lot of the members that were aware that VPN would let you login saw the lack of activity here and decided not to participate.  

 
Word is getting out slowly.  There is another local LA board that a lot of former TER members gravitated to after the shutdown.  A few of the posters there have mentioned that TER was available in the US again.  WHEN they come back will probably be determined by the level of activity and new reviews on TER.  

When you write like someone worth talking to, "most" of us will treat you that way. Capitalizing a handful of words for emphasis is a perfectly acceptable of expressing yourself, MUCH better than your earlier posts.

 
At the current rate of repopulating the review database I think it will only be a few months before TER will be worth the money to a typical monger to re-up VIP membership. Yes, the ladies are going to have a roughly two year gap in their reviews, but since ALL of them will have the same gap (not thigh gap of course) it won't count against any of them. Attrition has always been part of hooker/john life and that isn't going to change. New girls come, old girls go. Some stick around for years others a very short time. The same can be said for the guys, some of us (like both you and me) have been here for many, many years, others drift in and out of the boards.  

 
I don't know if we were ever NORMAL, but I think we will get back to some semblance of normalcy in a few months.  

 
Once again, congratulations for taking some very good advice that was given to you. You'll find that very few of us will hold a grudge and that most of us will forget all about the other nights shit show, or was that last night? See, I have forgotten already. lol

Well, considering the SER...(sorry!) serious distress my "ALL CAPS" style apparently caused poor Mr. "jimboy," I had to amend my ways, irregardless of my personal preference.  
Who am I to cause such apparent distress, such apparent pain, to another human being, much less a fellow monger.  :(
In fact, I'm considering initiating a completely separate thread to alert the rest of the community to use their ALL CAPS judiciously, so as to avoid causing this poor soul, nay, any poor soul that suffers from A.A.C.S (aversion to all caps syndrome), any further distress.
I will pray that his dire condition subsides when we can encourage AL...(sorry!) all members to use their caps CAREFULLY.  ;)

If that proximate cause is avoided, I'm as gentle as a lamb and as constructive as an engineer. And you can see as much by my constructive reply to your OP. Where we go from here is entirely up to you.

“AS...(sorry!) assholes?!“
Such FOUL language.  :(
As I’m sure there are MANY like you, “jimboy,” who suffer from “A.A.C.S., I’m sure there are OTHERS who suffer similar distress upon reading such STRONG language.
I implore you, sir, to think of THEM before expressing yourself with such language.  :(
BTW - “Where WE go from here?”
I wasn’t aware WE were going ANYWHERE together, sir.
Good day.  ;)

The fact that you would feign shock at the word "asshole," while posting on a fuckboard, is a hilarious reminder of what a tiny set of rhetorical tools you have. But what's supremely hilarious is that, after posting such fart-wind, I wouldn't be surprised if you go to the mirror and pat yourself on the back at your "cleverness," all the while remaining oblivious to the cartoonish character you've become. As I've mentioned before, and will amplify here, you are the quintessential laughingstock who nobody takes seriously, or gives a second thought to. I can only assume that these tendencies can't help but manifest themselves IRL with you . . . and that's the saddest and most pathetic thought of all. And this post is a perfect example of where "we" are going. Namely that each and every piece of dreck you post will be met with a response calculated to send you even further into the depths of ignominy. You are, and always will be, the Coyote to my Roadrunner.

...for spending even a PRECIOUS second continuing to interact with likes of YOU.  :(
It has proven to be nothing but a complete waste of my TIME, and since time is the ONE thing NONE of us can obtain any MORE of, aside from that which has been granted to us, I choose not to spend any MORE of it corresponding with YOU..., aside from telling you what a SAD and EMPTY life you must have to continue an OBSESSION with me and my writing STYLE.
So..., with this FINAL missive to YOU, "jimboy," I bid you adieu.
Have a nice life..., LOSER.  ;)

Hard to know for sure. It might take some additional posts to nail down. BTW, the belly-laugh moment (at your expense, I might add) in your reply is when you try to say with a straight face that this is ABSOLUTELY your FINAL response to me. Anyone with a shred of intelligence knows that is simply not the case. Just like the Coyote keeps coming back for more punishment, that's the Sisyphean cycle in which you're ensnared. I tried hard to give you a second chance but, in the words of an old saying, "Stupid goes all the way to the bone." And about your recurring straw-man (feel free to look that up as you frantically search for Sisyphus) argument that this is about your Tourette posting style, it stopped being so after the first couple of exchanges and then became entirely about exposing you, for all to see, as the insipid, irrelevant, annoying putz you are. But, if you'd like some All CAPS to play with, I've attached an image which maybe you can edit to suit your PERSONAL preference.

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I find it annoying to see the overwhelming amount of all caps, it’s understandable when you want to emphasize but it’s also considered yelling. And TER has a policy regarding posts using all caps, in the subject line and if the body of content is overwhelming with all caps. Obviously either the new management doesn’t care or you haven’t violated that policy or your posts would be denied or deleted.

But thank you for being considerate and willingness to tone them down.

Comply?
No, not COMPLY, rather paying passing attention to a NON issue.
If I wanted to ARGUE the merits of how and when to use ALL CAPS, I’d join a message board for LOGOPHILES instead.  ;)
As to WHAT constitutes “yelling?”
We may each have our own opinions on the topic, but as far as I’m concerned. the following is an example of “yelling,” IMHO -
I THINK YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF OVER-SENSITIZED CHILDREN!!!
Yeah, imo, THAT’S yelling.
Thanks for reading.  ;)

Some areas will snap back before you know it (NYC, LA, SFO, MIA, etc.). Others will seem like it takes friggin' forever to make up any ground. But, as the G-Meister said, there has always been plenty of turnover in the provider community. Another significant factor, IMHO, is what economists would call "ease of entry" into the industry. Some businesses are just easier to set up and operate than others. And, as much as people on this board love to trash BP, it was an excellent vehicle for new providers to break into the biz. Then (for the good ones), as they gained knowledge, experience, and built their reputation and client-base, they would move up to higher-end, or their own, sites and raise prices appropriately. Another path for new providers to gain experience and confidence is to start with an agency. But there are a limited number of those and some of them aren't very good which makes them less than ideal as a launching pad. Bottom-line, TER helps a lot for clients and probably also for established providers to reclaim and increase their business. But I think what's still missing is an ad site with a massive footprint like BP had (and CL in its day). And of course the problems with BP are well known but a new site would hopefully avoid the bad and use the good. What was good (I can hear the skeptical questions now)? For one thing, the way the site handled searches and subdividing areas was very efficient, IMHO. In NYC I could see in about 2 mins who was advertising on the LES, UWS, Midtown E&W, FiDi, etc. And I could do it for both escorts and sensual massage. Most of the search functionality with current ad sites is absolute crap. Also, new ads went to the top of the page and pushed down the old. If you go to PD or Slixa, just to cite a couple of examples, there are a LOT of ads where the provider hasn't been in your city for months but you can't tell until you open the ad. The current pathetic and fragmented advertising situation needs to improve in order for new providers to be able to enter the marketplace as easily as before. Just my .02 worth. p.s. I also second what the G-Meister said about not holding a grudge and moving forward with productive discussion.

If we are talking about higher end escorts in their 20's and 30's, I think the days of them coming back in any significant numbers is gone forever, sadly. They had two years to find other money generating vehicles (think twitter).  

 
It's like asking a millennial to give up her avocado toast and go back to eating a cheeseburger at Burger King. It aint gonna happen

I've seen provider posts in various forums that X number of followers and contacts via social media don't necessarily translate into booked sessions and cash in the bank. Obviously, some are doing better than others. And, since TER has only recently come back online, I think the jury's still out. But, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I think the bigger challenge is the lack of an ad site with the vast reach and ease of use as in the heyday of BP and CL.

If you mean "not delist" when you say "come back" ...

If reviews help guys and someone doesn't want reviews, won't the guys be seeing the reviewed escorts?  

I mean we can't believe that reviews are useful and also believe the don't help some escorts.     In other words, (good) reviews mean business.  That's either true or not.  If it is not true, then yeah, there's no reason to be listed.

The culture has drastically changed. We are in a post Sesta/Fosta age while simultaneously coinciding with a post #metoo one. "Review culture", to these women, is misogynistic on its face.

 
To these women, the reviews are too graphic and too sexist, they have no ability to respond directly back to the reviews and they believe they do not get a fair shake when contacting TER about a fake review.

 
As Dev has said as well, these women will not be coming back. New girls either follow or befriend many of the established girls on twitter, and those more established girls inculcate the new girls to the evils of review culture and how they would just be feeding into things that caused #metoo to begin with.  

 
That is VERY powerful stuff to girls brand new to this type of escorting as they don't want to step of line with the current group think because they will viewed as turn coats not down with the "feminine cause."

 
Many guys might feel this attitude by the women is over the top, or ridiculous, but it is certainly a real thing and it is NOT going to change anytime soon, if ever.

an environment that is unfriendly to girls without reviews on TER, then I think many will come back if they believe they're losing a significant amount of customers to other girls who have TER reviews.  I have already started doing this.  I recently contacted two indies, asking them what handle I should look for on TER to read their reviews.  They both said they are not on TER, to which I said, "Then you are a pass for me.  I'm only interested in seeing girls who have been reviewed on TER."  If these girls get enough contacts like mine, they will have to reconsider their decision to delist, IMO.

 
I think many of these girls fear reviews because they KNOW they are providing sub-standard service at inflated prices.  If mongers are able to compare them to other girls with reviews, they will be forced to raise their service standards, or else lower their prices.  Its a win-win for us mongers.

They don't. I am referring to women who were forced to find alternative ad venues/review sites to great success in TER'S absence.  

 
They could care less that you passed on them and would think less of you for even mentioning TER. The demand is SO strong for these types of girls I am referring to it is far outpacing the supply.  

 
How do I know that? Most of these girls have had dramatic price increases AFTER TER essentially went offline, something I would have NEVER guessed two years ago. You saw my "K-girl" (not Koreans, but girls who now charge 1k/hour or more) post.  

 
Here's another factor; times are good, jobs are secure, good raises are the norm, bonuses through the roof and the stock market is running wild, so many guys have TONS of disposable income.

a few weeks ago when you said some of these ladies are never coming back.  Obviously, is some ladies are charging $1K per hour and are getting all the bookings they want at that rate, they have no incentive to subject themselves to reviews and have mongers find out that they are not worth $1K an hour when there will be many ladies getting good reviews that are giving better service.  What I was talking about was their perception.  If they think they are losing the kind of clientele, i.e., guys with the potential to be loyal regulars, they may reconsider their position on being listed and reviewed on TER.  It won't work with ALL providers, but it will work on many who are not getting as many bookings as they would like.  

If you inquire about booking two or three hours and then tell them you are backing off because they have no TER presence, I think some will reconsider de-listing.  Its called market manipulation, and while you can't do it in the stock market, there is no law against it in the pussy market.

But, if they’re SMART (that’s questionable!), these same YOUNG “pros” will realize that “T.E.R” is yet another avenue available for them to generate MORE “income” by driving additional TRAFFIC to their sites.  
And WHO doesn’t like more “income?”  ;)

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You got me thinking......how do millennial escorts think?  What are their values, interests, etc?  I spend the majority of my hobby resources on lady's from Gen X and older.  

Does a millennial fuck differently.  Sexual expectations?   Taboos, if there are any.  In my day BBBJ and DATY were on the edge.  Anal was not even a consideration, let alone 3 sums.

Or is all this just academic?

At the risk of painting an ENTIRE generation with a BROAD brush, I find the same characteristics that have otherwise been found in this generation to apply here, namely their possessing a sense of ENTITLEMENT and a preoccupation with being "woke"/politically correct, which certainly puts a DAMPER on the "romantic" aspect of the "game."  :(

Unfortunately, in this case I do. The OP has raised a point that goes to the heart of the matter here.

If you’re referring to me in referring to the “OP,” “inicky46,” why..., THANK you!
If not..., please ignore!  ;)

Sounds like they truly believe they know what they are talking about.  While I am sure they are simply expressing an opinion based upon their own personal experience.  It is anyone's guess just how relevant that personal experience is.

 
The truth is; nobody really knows.  TER going dark was not that big of a deal if you kept contact information and stayed "connected."  Many of my favorites may have chosen to "diversify" their businesses but those who I forged a healthy business relationship with always have time for me.

 
Could I really be the exception rather than the rule?  I wonder but am guessing not.

It should go without saying that if you kept contact with your personal favorites, and are COMPLETELY satisfied with your "roster," then, yes, the "shutdown" of "T.E.R." should not have affected you in the SLIGHTEST.
Speaking for myself (and perhaps others), one of the MAIN reasons I continue to "hobby" so many years after my "initiation" into the "life" is the "VARIETY" it affords me, which has consisted MOSTLY of many POSITIVE "interactions."  ;)
One way to INSURE that an "interaction" with a new "pro" is positive is to do research, which, aside from limited "word of mouth," takes the form of REVIEWS on a site such as this.
Now, if that avenue is closed off to one, then the "game" becomes more of a CRAP shoot which may, or may NOT, pan out, and if you're shelling out X amount for a "donation," trust me, the LAST thing you want your "experience" to be is a crap shoot.
So, yes, I'll admit it - I missed "T.E.R.," and I'm glad to have it back!  :)

I've had more than one provider tell me that TER serves as a screening tool for providers as well.  They can look at a guy's reviews and get a general idea of what he's looking for in a session as well as get a pretty good feel for his personality by the tone of his reviews.  

The Las Vegas area took a HUGE hit when TER went down.  I was looking at the Las Vegas Top 100 providers list this morning and there are nowhere near 100 providers.  Before TER shut down there were at least 150-200, maybe more.

When the whole Sesta/Fosta thing gathered steam I made a list of all the providers on TER that I wanted to see, before the shutdown, and marked them as a "favorite" on P411 and that saved me during the last two years.  Still, it'll be nice to see some new profiles and reviews pop up here so I can start seeing some new providers....

Guessing 3-4 months, about 2000 users on line at any time, but higher than any other site already!

Hopefully the government will stop telling consenting adults what the can and cannot do who the fuck is electing rulers that tell them what is good for them while they do whatever they want.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW

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