Hello all,

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/1998/09/bill-clinton-and-the-meaning-of-is.html
Bill Clinton and the Meaning of “Is”
“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”

I and I’m sure many others have had the menu opened up once the provider got comfortable after a session or more—sometimes even during the first session, ala “YMMV”.  HJ to CBJ, CBJ to BBBJ, no DATY to DATY, BBBJ to FS, FS to Greek etc.  

Thanks for your reply! Ha I'll remember to bring that up lol! Have a great day!

Thanks for your insight! I'll try my luck. Have a great day!

...and usually don't offer anything more. Never say never, tho. She might offer more, especially if you're a regular with her. It never hurts to ask politely.

was for a FBSM.  It included a HJ and that's it.  On a subsequent meeting, I asked about BBBJ, and she agreed for an upcharge.  After about 6 weekly visits, she offered me CFS for an upcharge without me asking.  The rate progression had gone from $150 to $200 to $250 for FS. In retrospect, I wish I had asked about FS when I got the blow job, so the advice here from other posters to ask her is sound.  Go for it, but don't pressure her if she says no.   It still floats the idea, and she may consider it and come back later and change her mind.   Or, you can  just book a FS provider with no fuss.  

An awesome FBSM gal just had such a fantastic delicious body that on our visit, I literally groped her up all over and reached down and pushed her thong down.  This was while she was setting up some tunes on her MacBook for us to listen to.  She panted and shuddered that she "wasn't FS".....

I've seen a FBSM provider in Wilmington, DE (Joy) and she makes it very clear what her boundaries are.

I usually bring up add-ons at the end of a session so it doesn't interfere with the planned event and we had the better part of the hour to establish chemistry.  

Long ago (maybe 25 years) I saw a tall blond gorgeous massage provider several times.  She would come to my house, get naked, give a great massage, then lie beside me and use her hand expertly.  I was happy with this, and she only ever advertised massage.  Then at the end of one session she said, I want to give you more!  Jackpot!!!  I saw her several times more after that, full service for the win!  I don't know why I stopped seeing her.  Damn.  Anyway I tell this story just to show, you never know!

Some providers  are as advertised,  and you may have to respect  that, however you said  you are a longtime  customer,  so don't  be afraid  to ask, but you not gonna find out by keeping  your  mouth shut . Am sure she is somewhat comfortable  with you by now and might oblige you,especially  if you have been respectful  and generous.  However  keep an open mind when asking  just in caseyou get turn down.  

providers, who I see sometimes when I really need a massage (and they know how to give a genuine massage), I always ask if they’d like some table time and they always say yes. On my first visit, I tell them I’ll only rub what they want me to rub, ask if they have any spots they want special attention to, and I start there. Once they’re comfortable I’ll ask if they’d like their glutes rubbed (always a Yes, if they haven’t already directed me there), and go deep there which they always seem to appreciate. I also do their inner thighs getting very close to but not touching their pussy (unless they’re indicated that’s ok). On the flip, I’ll ask if they’d like their lips massaged, and if that’s a yes (usually) I’ll go from there to ask if they’d like a finger massage (pretty high take up rate) and then if they’d like a tongue massage 👅 .  If that’s a yes, it’s a pretty good indication that a BBBJ at least will be on the menu, and maybe FS in a future session if not that day.  

I often get nuru massages. There are some good places in oc. I find the uncertainty of not knowing where the session will end up exciting, but at the very least I know I'll get to enjoy a super oily body slide with hj.

If they are using oil it's not a Nuru. That is a body rub. Nuru is only done using a gel and the feeling is far different than using oil. Look for those using the gel for an authentic Nuru experience.

I have a favorite massage provider that does a great massage, hj, and/or NURU massage. I noted right on her ad she states no fs or bj. During my first massage with her, she made it clear that she doesn’t do fs or bj, and some guys keep insisting on offering her more money to do it. She gets upset about it. She’s a nice person, so I respect her wishes and limits. Almost every guy that has gone to her notes that she is strictly no fs or bj. Most guys get it. My belief is that if she decides to offer you personally more, she would bring it up on her own. I won’t risk offending her. If she decides otherwise, she can offer. If you are happy with her services, like I am, just go with her offered services. That’s my take.

That seems like a pretty big jump from a woman tolerating you rubbing your bare dick on her clit to you jamming it inside.  I'm guessing that some girls assume you're going there but I'm guessing you've been slapped in the face a few times or thrown out of a few appointments.  There are some people who would put that in the category of rape, btw.

There's a chasm of difference between a woman tolerating a sexual activity and responding positively to it. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Yes.
Consent is the hottest part of sex.
No need to elaborate on this simple truth.

There have been nuru providers that I've read reviews about that claimed that they were lazy, uninterested and overall were given a bad rating. Since the physical description of the provider was appealing to me I decided to try her anyway. My experiences were exactly the opposite, so it's true you get what you give.

She either will or she won't