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Re: Interesting POV
Dr Who revived 3353 reads
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Do you know any hookers that really know how to manipulate the system?

Seems the fast track for most hookers here are those that understand how to manage their reviews.

It's always entertaining to watch the "next" HDH claw her way to the top.  

Not to mention watch the older HDH's put her down...with help of their WK contingent  LOL

I guess some of these hookers actually believe the drivel that the mangina crowd writes in the reviews (and shameless shill posts).  

How often do you guys ask your gal pals for the UTR hookers that aren't into this drama fest?  What about your guy pals....plenty of the boys have their own circle of UTR hotties that don't get into the review drama fests...as they aren't on here.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 1607 reads
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I do. It's called entrprenurism and it is the American way. eom


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Dr Who revived 1577 reads
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I couldn't find a definition of "entrepreneurism" anywhere

But I am assuming that you are saying all the hookers are entrepreneurs...and I agree with that on the gals who are Indy.

My question is do you know any hookers that get how to manipulate on TER?  

From my POV...most don't get involved in that shit.  But I do know some that clearly understand the importance of manipulation here.  It's been vital to their ascension to the Top lists  LOL

Panthera12 1924 reads
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4 / 60
They are usually easy to spot

Perhaps not right away but they are often given away by hobbyists privately and not on the boards initially. Certain mangina pussified hobbyists are easy targets for them and they are happy to oblige them namely with inflated reviews and endless frothing on threads.

I usually don't ask providers if they have some dramaless friends, but over the years a few have fell onto my lap. They are either UTR or part timers supplementing their income, not relying soley on their bodies for survival.

Another point to make. With these UTR providers, conversations are never about other hobbyists, providers,
or fuck boards. It is nice to converse without drama, not to mention the sex is usually better and the clock doesn't have a timer.
Reviews never come up in conversations which just fine by me.

CubbieFan2 21 Reviews 1510 reads
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5 / 60
Does HDH= High Drama H...? I've been out of the loop for awhile!

Hi CPA,

I know of a respected hobbyist who mentioned an UTR w/ my body type preference! Small headlights! Unfortunately I did not act fast & she was gone as quickly as she arrived!! I'm going to ask that hobbyist, when I graduate this fine Institution, about other UTR's he might know! :o)
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Seems the fast track for most hookers here are those that understand how to manage their reviews.  
   
 It's always entertaining to watch the "next" HDH claw her way to the top.    
   
 Not to mention watch the older HDH's put her down...with help of their WK contingent  LOL  
   
 I guess some of these hookers actually believe the drivel that the mangina crowd writes in the reviews (and shameless shill posts).    
   
 How often do you guys ask your gal pals for the UTR hookers that aren't into this drama fest?  What about your guy pals....plenty of the boys have their own circle of UTR hotties that don't get into the review drama fests...as they aren't on here.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 1532 reads
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Dollar..but Drama comes with Dollar..sometimes [e] :D


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CubbieFan2 21 Reviews 1597 reads
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7 / 60
OK, thanks!![e] :D


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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1646 reads
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I've gotten asked for a discount for a good review... lame

I never ask for reviews, and definitely don't accept the 'discounted rate' for a good review. I think it's tacky. (As you can see I don't have all 10's).

Every lady who has good reviews across the board isn't always manipulating, but IDK, I'm new to this.  

I've heard it happens a lot though. But personality can change someone's beauty. I've heard of some strip clubs where the not-so-good looking girl far out does the hottest girls in the club... because of her personality.

Anyway, if you see someone who has great reviews and definitely doesn't live up to them, why don't you just write what you think? Do they threaten to blacklist or something?

Courtney

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 1567 reads
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9 / 60
I've seen the climate on TER change over the years...

But I've never gotten involved with any girls who were hung-up on review drama. I haven't even written a review since 2010 and that particular lady asked me not to at first!  I wouldn't say I set out to go UTR but it just sort of happened. In all of my years on TER I've only seen one lady that had any sort of a strong board presence.  Not saying I wouldn't see a girl with a lot of reviews but it's not a priority.

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 1457 reads
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10 / 60
Re: I've gotten asked for a discount for a good review... lame

I've heard of some threatening far worse than BL. (Outing)  

Many years ago I advertised on another site and got many responses about freebies for reviews (including admin). I wouldn't do it. I still have NOTHING to do with the site even though it is somewhat popular in my area.

It is obvious I am not a 10/10 fiend either. I agree, if she doesn't live up say something. Some gals will retaliate though. Heard of that happening.  

I do mention reviews but all I say is "If you'd like to review me, please do so". No mention thereafter. Nor do I tell them what to do/say.  

As far as how the system works, I don't think it is all the girls. Sometimes it is the guys as well. Some guys give 10's to everyone they see. Fault in the system is on both. Some guys won't give bad reviews, others only give bad ones.  
Posted By: Courtney.ova
I never ask for reviews, and definitely don't accept the 'discounted rate' for a good review. I think it's tacky. (As you can see I don't have all 10's).  
   
 Every lady who has good reviews across the board isn't always manipulating, but IDK, I'm new to this.  
   
 I've heard it happens a lot though. But personality can change someone's beauty. I've heard of some strip clubs where the not-so-good looking girl far out does the hottest girls in the club... because of her personality.  
   
 Anyway, if you see someone who has great reviews and definitely doesn't live up to them, why don't you just write what you think? Do they threaten to blacklist or something?  
   
 Courtney

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 1510 reads
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11 / 60
The only issue I see

Is that anyone- male or female- is all that concerned about numbers in the first place. Who cares?? Looks are totally subjective anyway.

M.A.L.C.O.M. 1822 reads
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12 / 60
You really are that stupid aren't you?

Look! A definition!
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/entrepreneurism  
And another one
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrepreneurism
There's even a book on it, but since you don't actually read what people write and prefer to make crazy shit up and argue with yourself over it, it's not likely to be of much use to you.
http://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/p253  
Oh look, another book
http://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Entrepreneurism-Shattering-Start-Up-Entrepreneurial/dp/1590791894  
And a magazine article
http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/26/unbridled-entrepreneurism/  
Even fucking corn farmers know "entrepreneurism"
http://www.cedarrapids.org/Content/Business-Support/Entrepreneurism-Innovation.aspx  

We all knew you were an idiot but you have seriously outdone yourself this time.  Really.  Of all the things to choose to make such a declarative statement over.  Next you'll be saying that tired old line of hookers being stupid.  Yeah.  That's about as accurate a statement as, well, as any of the other garbage that you spew.

chicagodude123 1411 reads
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13 / 60
HDH??

What do you mean by HDH?

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1579 reads
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14 / 60
Yes I do. EOM


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ceotraveling 30 Reviews 1316 reads
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15 / 60
Re: You really are that stupid aren't you?

I never doubted his level of ignorance. How dare you :0)

Posted By: M.A.L.C.O.M.
Look! A definition!  
 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/entrepreneurism    
 And another one  
 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrepreneurism  
 There's even a book on it, but since you don't actually read what people write and prefer to make crazy shit up and argue with yourself over it, it's not likely to be of much use to you.  
 http://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/p253    
 Oh look, another book  
 http://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Entrepreneurism-Shattering-Start-Up-Entrepreneurial/dp/1590791894    
 And a magazine article  
 http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/26/unbridled-entrepreneurism/    
 Even fucking corn farmers know "entrepreneurism"  
 http://www.cedarrapids.org/Content/Business-Support/Entrepreneurism-Innovation.aspx    
   
 We all knew you were an idiot but you have seriously outdone yourself this time.  Really.  Of all the things to choose to make such a declarative statement over.  Next you'll be saying that tired old line of hookers being stupid.  Yeah.  That's about as accurate a statement as, well, as any of the other garbage that you spew.

justanillusion 1615 reads
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16 / 60
Thats what happens when a living being is reduced

To a collection of numbers that defines their worth to the consumer. Did you not expect that this would happen? It started a competition war between those who live and die by their reviews.

Some women don't care about scores, some so much that they refuse reviews.  

While reviews are good for the guys, there is a downside, welcome to it.

justanillusion 1430 reads
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17 / 60
Clearly so many on both sides are[eom]


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DobieGillis 1528 reads
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18 / 60
Not any more or less than a doctor manipulates medicare/medicaid system

a criminal defense attorney manipulates the legal system, a cpa manipulates the tax code, a car dealership manipulates the fine print or an auto-body shop manipulates your insurance.

Panthera12 1253 reads
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19 / 60
Are you? Did you happen to notice

that mrfisher misspelled the word? CPA corrected the spelling. Perhaps you were too stupid to notice, but reading between the lines can be so difficult.

Dr Who revived 1447 reads
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20 / 60
Funny...Malcom was too concerned about...

Making a statement  LOL

Yea...the only other post malcom made was a bash of London last September.

Just another unhappy camper in the land of TER  :D

I was actually hoping rasha was going to chime in to give me a lesson.  Perhaps she will?
Posted By: Panthera12
that mrfisher misspelled the word? CPA corrected the spelling. Perhaps you were too stupid to notice, but reading between the lines can be so difficult.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 1600 reads
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21 / 60
It recalls a cute saying in the legal field:....

A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.

We reward those who manipulate well; we jail those who do not manipulate well.

Panthera12 1455 reads
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22 / 60
Rasha will only serve to further confuse him

He probably won't be back for another 10 months anyhow.

Dr Who revived 1604 reads
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23 / 60
I'd much rather have rasha explain...than Conan the Grammarian

Maybe we can add this topic on the next game of TER Hooker Jeopardy?

And confuse malcom...he's still pissed his show was canceled.  And now is relegated to B level trash.
Posted By: Panthera12
He probably won't be back for another 10 months anyhow.

Panthera12 1559 reads
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24 / 60
I would rather Rasha speak about beached whales

and manatee theme threads since both of us are wildlife enthusiasts.

Dr Who revived 1437 reads
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25 / 60
Fits with the OP

Glad we're staying on topic  :D

Amazing how many beached whales are getting those 10/10's.

Manipulation or fraud?
Posted By: Panthera12
and manatee theme threads since both of us are wildlife enthusiasts.

Panthera12 1532 reads
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26 / 60
Manipulation at it's best

I just cringe every time I see a portly provider get a 10. In fact, I cringe when I see them get more then a 7.

We can't chalk it all up to that manipulation and fraud though. Hobbyists are just as much to blame. They are the biggest perps of the inflation for being so pacified by pussy in the first place, like lap dogs.

justanillusion 1565 reads
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27 / 60
Interesting POV

Where does it say in the review guidelines that only Victoria Secret model type bodies can get a 10/10?

Or are those your personal parameters? Because if they are, and you happen to stumble upon a provider that is not the body type you prefer, isn't it up to you to score her? And let others score the way they see it?  

If not, it is up to TER to add that as a defining guideline,  so any escort who does not have a VS model type body cannot possibly earn anything higher than a 7. Would that work for you?

Or are you trying to get every other guy to see the ladies as you and Chgcpa do?

escalade1964 65 Reviews 1620 reads
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28 / 60
Re: I've gotten asked for a discount for a good review... lame

I have seen ads for discounted sessions for "Reviews"  

I recently started writing them again but am a bit wiser to "The Hobby" these days.

Prior to reconnecting with TER; When leaving the incall a few times a "stern"
"Escalade, if you do choose to write a review, No 7's"

Very romantic way to leave the date, wouldn't you say. LOL

Dr Who revived 1382 reads
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29 / 60
If there were any VS models here...they might be 10/10

But there aren't any...so that's not a realistic comparison.

The OP was asking if there was manipulation of the system.  The consensus (over the years) is certainly...and I was just curious if others see this manipulation as degrading the validity of any scores..from any reviewers.

Some guys like BBW..some like old and ugly..some like waifs and so on.

What I have found interesting is the gals who have strings of 10/10's and little else...well, seems odd since none are indeed working at VS.

FWIW I have no interest in the VS types (tall and skinny)...I like them short and petite.  So I rarely go out of that body type to see...that's just me.  Others like them how they like them.  

And if posting here could sway some guy(s) to change that up...I doubt that is a remote possibility, nor one that I have any interest in pursuing  :D
Posted By: justanillusion
Where does it say in the review guidelines that only Victoria Secret model type bodies can get a 10/10?  
   
 Or are those your personal parameters? Because if they are, and you happen to stumble upon a provider that is not the body type you prefer, isn't it up to you to score her? And let others score the way they see it?  
   
 If not, it is up to TER to add that as a defining guideline,  so any escort who does not have a VS model type body cannot possibly earn anything higher than a 7. Would that work for you?  
   
 Or are you trying to get every other guy to see the ladies as you and Chgcpa do?

Panthera12 1377 reads
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Re: Interesting POV

Lets just put it this way. Do you think that a 45 year old provider who is 50 pounds overweight is deserving of a 10 appearance rating? What lifetime is that supposed to be? A cicada's?
How about the same provider being gifted a 9? Model material for what? AARP calendar girl? Mama Alfredo's pasta?

Are you saying that my standards are too high or unrealistic?

Dr Who revived 1821 reads
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That's the whole point of this thread LOL

But the HDH gals don't need to beat on a potential reviewer either.

Seems the smart hookers have learned to game TER with the "fake review" when it isn't the numerical score they seek.  Not to mention the use of the PM system to stalk the reviewers.  And god forbid you gave her your real email addy...sheesh  LOL

Next time some hooker babbles "no 7"...give her the score she really should get...like a 4 or 5.  Really..that is a good score as it's average, and most here are just that.  But you've got these hookers who believe their own press clippings from mangina boys who wouldn't know a hottie (or real 10) if it hit him in the face.  These pathetic reviewers are just thrilled that some woman would get nude with him...for a fee of course.
Posted By: escalade1964
I have seen ads for discounted sessions for "Reviews"  
   
 I recently started writing them again but am a bit wiser to "The Hobby" these days.  
   
 Prior to reconnecting with TER; When leaving the incall a few times a "stern"  
 "Escalade, if you do choose to write a review, No 7's"  
   
 Very romantic way to leave the date, wouldn't you say. LOL

DT_lover 188 Reviews 1756 reads
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32 / 60
I'm busy seeing providers that give good service.

Nothing wrong with a girl trying to "maximize" her PR if the service is there.

Girls who give false information (i.e. lie) will get caught and trashed sooner or later.  I have seen this happen more than a few times on TER.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 1487 reads
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33 / 60
Waste of time IMO. Lol! Eom


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Dr Who revived 1678 reads
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34 / 60
Then why do you waste time on this?

Since you have changed your handle to Sarah...you were escaping from your old persona.

And from your current reviews...this thread was for you  LOL

Panthera12 1358 reads
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Re: Then why do you waste time on this?

It does seem that she has a keen interest in this thread.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 1505 reads
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36 / 60
I find reviews valuable. The numbers, not so much.

And I really don't know what you're on about with your cryptic allegations. Whatever amuses you dude. ;)

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1669 reads
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Oh, my God. Really?

If only we could review you. I can't believe you just attempted to publicly humiliate someone. Shame on you.

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Since you have changed your handle to Sarah...you were escaping from your old persona.  
   
 And from your current reviews...this thread was for you  LOL

Dr Who revived 1424 reads
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At my rates...I doubt YOU could afford me LOL

But should you want to pay me...feel free to review me.  Until then...STFU

Ask Sarah who she was before...and why she is now Sarah. Her old TER page is still up.  

Seems she was outed by the pals she had befriended many many many moons ago  :D

I just speak the truth...no one lies on the internet  LOL
Posted By: Courtney.ova
If only we could review you. I can't believe you just attempted to publicly humiliate someone. Shame on you.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Since you have changed your handle to Sarah...you were escaping from your old persona.  
     
  And from your current reviews...this thread was for you  LOL

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1706 reads
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39 / 60
ugh... deleted my last post...

Just got into some drama. I don't like doing that. I'll excuse myself now. ;)

Good luck to ya'. Just makes me squeamish to see people hurting others' feelings.
Posted By: ChgoCPA
But should you want to pay me...feel free to review me.  Until then...STFU  
   
 Ask Sarah who she was before...and why she is now Sarah. Her old TER page is still up.    
   
 Seems she was outed by the pals she had befriended many many many moons ago  :D  
   
 I just speak the truth...no one lies on the internet  LOL  
   
Posted By: Courtney.ova
If only we could review you. I can't believe you just attempted to publicly humiliate someone. Shame on you.  
     
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Since you have changed your handle to Sarah...you were escaping from your old persona.    
       
   And from your current reviews...this thread was for you  LOL
-- Modified on 7/6/2013 11:59:44 AM

Dr Who revived 1468 reads
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I think TER is working on the Disney board

But until that is up and running...and you want to post here...then deal with the personality.  Or not..easy enough not to read any one post.

Yea...I stopped reviewing nearly two years ago...so that list is not quite accurate.  LOL

Ugh...I like to play with gals who are into fun shit?  I looked at your reviews...don't ever worry about me contacting you...will NEVER happen.

You could play on the newbie board till the Disney board is available.  Just saying  :D
 
Posted By: Courtney.ova
STFU is abusive talk. You couldn't pay me to see you. If you are so expensive, why do you need to pay a girl to see you? Wait... 26 girls (recorded).  
   
 I don't bash hobbying, obviously, but think about what you are saying...  
   
 I'm curious to see what kind of clever insult you are going to say next to show your great intelligence.  
   
 EOM  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
But should you want to pay me...feel free to review me.  Until then...STFU  
     
  Ask Sarah who she was before...and why she is now Sarah. Her old TER page is still up.    
     
  Seems she was outed by the pals she had befriended many many many moons ago  :D  
     
  I just speak the truth...no one lies on the internet  LOL  
     
Posted By: Courtney.ova
If only we could review you. I can't believe you just attempted to publicly humiliate someone. Shame on you.    
       
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Since you have changed your handle to Sarah...you were escaping from your old persona.    
         
    And from your current reviews...this thread was for you  LOL

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1408 reads
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41 / 60
XOXO

Sure, thanks hun...

xoxo
Posted By: ChgoCPA
But until that is up and running...and you want to post here...then deal with the personality.  Or not..easy enough not to read any one post.  
   
 Yea...I stopped reviewing nearly two years ago...so that list is not quite accurate.  LOL  
   
 Ugh...I like to play with gals who are into fun shit?  I looked at your reviews...don't ever worry about me contacting you...will NEVER happen.  
   
 You could play on the newbie board till the Disney board is available.  Just saying  :D  
   
   
Posted By: Courtney.ova
STFU is abusive talk. You couldn't pay me to see you. If you are so expensive, why do you need to pay a girl to see you? Wait... 26 girls (recorded).  
     
  I don't bash hobbying, obviously, but think about what you are saying...  
     
  I'm curious to see what kind of clever insult you are going to say next to show your great intelligence.  
     
  EOM  
     
Posted By: ChgoCPA
But should you want to pay me...feel free to review me.  Until then...STFU    
       
   Ask Sarah who she was before...and why she is now Sarah. Her old TER page is still up.      
       
   Seems she was outed by the pals she had befriended many many many moons ago  :D    
       
   I just speak the truth...no one lies on the internet  LOL    
       
   
Posted By: Courtney.ova
If only we could review you. I can't believe you just attempted to publicly humiliate someone. Shame on you.    
         
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Since you have changed your handle to Sarah...you were escaping from your old persona.      
           
     And from your current reviews...this thread was for you  LOL

justanillusion 1584 reads
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42 / 60
Your standards are just that, yours

Other guys might have different standards. Personally, what some women find attractive I wouldn't touch with another woman's pussy but since I am not the one making their choices and they are, my opinion means nothing.  

When it comes to me, I choose IRL, what I consider 10's. Would all woman think my choice is a 10? Not likely. That was my point. If some guy is into 45 year olds that are chubby and it's his dream, why can't he score 10?

Some guys like that and some guys like tall and lithe and others like short and boney, all 10's to them.

OhCharlie See my TER Reviews 1603 reads
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You know, some of us really do try

And some of us do deserve our reviews. Some of us do not. The best you can do is research and accept that everyone is going to have a different experience.  

 If someone isn't even a little bit your type, then there's no reason for you to ever even see any of her reviews. It's a simple search away. Physical and sexual perfection is different for everyone, clearly.  

And with that, you have to accept that the girl just may not fancy you, or you her, and that's why she wasn't your 10. That shouldn't be a surprise to some of you, and its a pretty simple concept in general.

Maybe I'll call McDonald's and tell them to reevaluate their menu structure because the one down the road always forgets something, and I do hate that fish fillet...

justanillusion 1510 reads
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44 / 60
Isn't it more like each to his/her own?

I guess I am missing something here. You like short and petite, another guy might like 6 feet and up, I mean, in your eyes a lady will score what you feel is right, the next guy scores his type the way he feels.

 You will always get someone who thinks/feels your score are right on and another will find your score crap, according to each individual set of tastes and turn ons.

I just don't understand all the irritation and bashing if someone finds a lady a 10 and you (personally and collectively) don't.  

I don't get the manipulation portion, unless you mean when a lady threatens a guy into a 10. I would agree with that, but sometimes you don't know for sure unless he comes on here and admits it. It could simply be a personal choice deal.

Hey I am lucky to get a 5/5 being stupid, old and fat *wink*.

justanillusion 1482 reads
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45 / 60
You do know what this sounds like right?

I won't see you, no, I won't see you, neener neener neener. Well it is good for a chuckle. Carry on!

justanillusion 1299 reads
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46 / 60
Okay I see where you mean manipulation

The bribing, the threatening. Sorry I answered you and Panthera dude on a slightly different tangent below.  

But I will go out on a very strong limb, one man's hottie is another man's "not so much". I just can't wrap my head around you with your tastes, telling someone else that their choice is not hot.  

There are many guys on here and even not on here that are thrilled to have woman pay them attention after years of neglect, so what if they swoon? Not all guys are jaded and/or life style hobbyists. Neither are bad, they just have a different approach and different needs and view this whole p4p deal, surprise, surpriset, differently.  

I know you can see this, you just love being bloody minded sometimes, which is part of your ever increasing appeal.

justanillusion 1682 reads
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47 / 60
Both sides manipulate, hobbyists and escorts.

None of it is good for the hobby if it's done with malicious intent.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1438 reads
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48 / 60
Yes, that's why I stopped.

You're right, my bad. ;) can't take it back now! ;)

Posted By: justanillusion
I won't see you, no, I won't see you, neener neener neener. Well it is good for a chuckle. Carry on!

rrasha88 See my TER Reviews 1555 reads
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49 / 60
OK. I'll chime in.

My single lowest performance grade this year was from a reviewer who based his score on the fact that he did not feel I was worth the rate I charge. It wasn’t a nasty or mean spirited review, he just didn’t see the value and scored accordingly. He also waited a month to post the review and did so using an alias. Obviously in his mind, the fear of reprisal was real.  

So if that is true, then it stands to reason that at least some of my more favorable scores may also have been prompted by fear of retaliation. Manipulation – no. Obfuscation – yes.  

My only advice is to recognize that TER is not the Burning Bush or sacred scripture. Nor is it a substitute for common sense and a healthy skepticism.  It is merely a research tool. And like any tool, the skill resides with the person wielding it.

But however one conducts their due diligence, they should start with the understanding that perfect women do not become hookers

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 1669 reads
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50 / 60
Re: Interesting POV

If you had reviews we'd know your standards.  

Posted By: Panthera12
Lets just put it this way. Do you think that a 45 year old provider who is 50 pounds overweight is deserving of a 10 appearance rating? What lifetime is that supposed to be? A cicada's?  
 How about the same provider being gifted a 9? Model material for what? AARP calendar girl? Mama Alfredo's pasta?  
   
 Are you saying that my standards are too high or unrealistic?

Dr Who revived 1400 reads
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This isn't about my ideal...or any john's ideal per se

As you may have read from others here it wasn't always this way.  Very rarely was a 10 issued years ago.

Honestly I have only given a couple of 10's out...and that was due to some very specific items that the gals did (as well as the body type...petite)...and continue to this day to do.  I may have indeed been the only 10 for one of those gals as well.

The topic was really addressing the blatant reviews of many gals that are nothing now but 10's (the worst is the hooker(s) that have 10 years of mediocre reviews then all of a sudden nothing but 10's...yep..it's there  LOL).  And many of those gals that get them...well, let's just say that many of those same reviewers discuss behind the scenes that "she" was maybe a 7 or an 8...but had to give her a 10 for a variety of reasons.  Some of those, as rrasha explained earlier is that if a guy pays more than he's accustomed to...he doesn't want to feel like an asshole that he got shnookered.  Many simply won't even write that review for fear of reprisals...or worse.

We could go down the Top 100 (especially the local Top 100) and determine why many of them are indeed where they are at.  Some of them are, as Panthera suggested, well on the north side of 40 and overweight.  But those gals realize that they need to "manage" the reviews or their 500-1000/hr rates will no longer get paid.  

So my interest here was to quantify what constitutes "managing" their reviews.  

I've come to the conclusion after years of watching and knowing many of the HDH's personally that they manage it via TER...and disregard the johns.  Those gals figured out how to continue making it appear that they're still on 30 or 35 and svelte...when many are north of 40 and could certainly afford to hit the gyms.  Not to mention those youthful looks have long been gone...replaced in many cases with plastic surgeries.

So no question my 10 is probably not even close to the norm.  But my 10's don't get them very often..and rightfully shouldn't.  Heck...8's are on the high end for many of the gals I know.  Yet...their parade of 10's continues  LOL

Of course...all of this is simply how I see this game today.  Others...especially the new kids have no idea until they get a year or so into this...and see at least 25 different types of gals.  Then they'll see what I am discussing.  And will in many cases just shake their heads as well  LOL
Posted By: justanillusion
The bribing, the threatening. Sorry I answered you and Panthera dude on a slightly different tangent below.  
   
 But I will go out on a very strong limb, one man's hottie is another man's "not so much". I just can't wrap my head around you with your tastes, telling someone else that their choice is not hot.  
   
 There are many guys on here and even not on here that are thrilled to have woman pay them attention after years of neglect, so what if they swoon? Not all guys are jaded and/or life style hobbyists. Neither are bad, they just have a different approach and different needs and view this whole p4p deal, surprise, surpriset, differently.  
   
 I know you can see this, you just love being bloody minded sometimes, which is part of your ever increasing appeal.

Dr Who revived 1376 reads
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Never underestimate where the real intel comes from

Which is how many of the gals utilize to their advantage the review system today.  Guys who simply look here and see a sea of 10's figure "she must be all that and then some"...and in some cases that may be quite true.  But often they walk away somewhat disappointed....and not necessarily due to the prices.

Many gals have said here that they prefer to stay away from the guys who have been around some.  Makes sense to me if they are also those that are understating their ages by 10 years and their weight by 30-50 pounds.  That gets around faster than a speeding bullet...but NOT to the newbs who don't know about the networking that is rampant here.  And those newbs won't dare give her anything but a 10/10...for a multitude of reasons.  Shit...we've got plenty of vets that give them 10's...but they're easy to spot as shills.

I also disagree with your last statement...plenty of "hookers" who are absolute sweethearts and quite attractive.  Generally they stay away from the drama...don't want their clients shilling the shit out of them..and many aren't on TER at all.  BTW...there is no perfect woman...or man.  For every knockout there, there is someone who can't stand his/her guts.  

I stopped writing reviews 2 years ago and posted on the GD board my reasons and how I was going to determine scores from then on.  But I also realized that in many cases it would be considered an outlier.  So I simply use the backchannel method to discuss with those who have similar interests to determine what I expect a gal to look like.  

It works wonderfully  :D

So when I see the johns posting up the reviews on gals I know quite well...it's just humorous in many ways...but also a bit sad.  Especially when I read the comments from the schmoes who saw her because some dude added to the myth more garbage.  And that happens quite often here.
Posted By: rrasha88
My single lowest performance grade this year was from a reviewer who based his score on the fact that he did not feel I was worth the rate I charge. It wasn’t a nasty or mean spirited review, he just didn’t see the value and scored accordingly. He also waited a month to post the review and did so using an alias. Obviously in his mind, the fear of reprisal was real.  
   
 So if that is true, then it stands to reason that at least some of my more favorable scores may also have been prompted by fear of retaliation. Manipulation – no. Obfuscation – yes.  
   
 My only advice is to recognize that TER is not the Burning Bush or sacred scripture. Nor is it a substitute for common sense and a healthy skepticism.  It is merely a research tool. And like any tool, the skill resides with the person wielding it.  
   
 But however one conducts their due diligence, they should start with the understanding that perfect women do not become hookers.  
 

Dr Who revived 1602 reads
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So his words don't mean shit?

You're one of the problems that this thread is speaking to.

But then you knew that as well.

Perhaps one day you'll raise your standards and see the world through something other than those rose colored glasses you have on.

Then I expect you to finally realize that there is a whole world of wonderful women who really are hot.  Give it a shot and you'll finally get it.  Or just keep on doing what you're doing and have no clue.

Tough to compare when you won't do the taste test.  Don't worry...all your 10/10 hookers will still see you.  Just bring Ben along...it's the secret to this game.  Right?
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
If you had reviews we'd know your standards.  
   
Posted By: Panthera12
Lets just put it this way. Do you think that a 45 year old provider who is 50 pounds overweight is deserving of a 10 appearance rating? What lifetime is that supposed to be? A cicada's?  
  How about the same provider being gifted a 9? Model material for what? AARP calendar girl? Mama Alfredo's pasta?  
     
  Are you saying that my standards are too high or unrealistic?

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 1595 reads
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Re: So his words don't mean shit?

And yes, I'll continue to get your goat. Way too easily. As always.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
You're one of the problems that this thread is speaking to.  
   
 But then you knew that as well.  
   
 Perhaps one day you'll raise your standards and see the world through something other than those rose colored glasses you have on.  
   
 Then I expect you to finally realize that there is a whole world of wonderful women who really are hot.  Give it a shot and you'll finally get it.  Or just keep on doing what you're doing and have no clue.  
   
 Tough to compare when you won't do the taste test.  Don't worry...all your 10/10 hookers will still see you.  Just bring Ben along...it's the secret to this game.  Right?  
   
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
If you had reviews we'd know your standards.    
     
Posted By: Panthera12
Lets just put it this way. Do you think that a 45 year old provider who is 50 pounds overweight is deserving of a 10 appearance rating? What lifetime is that supposed to be? A cicada's?    
   How about the same provider being gifted a 9? Model material for what? AARP calendar girl? Mama Alfredo's pasta?    
       
   Are you saying that my standards are too high or unrealistic?

3mdssa 1620 reads
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And this is why the review system is flawed.

You have to take any review with a grain of salt nothing more.

Dr Who revived 1443 reads
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Guess you're hearing the scuttlebutt

But I won't throw you under the bus.

You're doing a fine job on your own!
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
And yes, I'll continue to get your goat. Way too easily. As always.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
You're one of the problems that this thread is speaking to.  
     
  But then you knew that as well.  
     
  Perhaps one day you'll raise your standards and see the world through something other than those rose colored glasses you have on.  
     
  Then I expect you to finally realize that there is a whole world of wonderful women who really are hot.  Give it a shot and you'll finally get it.  Or just keep on doing what you're doing and have no clue.  
     
  Tough to compare when you won't do the taste test.  Don't worry...all your 10/10 hookers will still see you.  Just bring Ben along...it's the secret to this game.  Right?  
     
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
If you had reviews we'd know your standards.    
       
   
Posted By: Panthera12
Lets just put it this way. Do you think that a 45 year old provider who is 50 pounds overweight is deserving of a 10 appearance rating? What lifetime is that supposed to be? A cicada's?    
    How about the same provider being gifted a 9? Model material for what? AARP calendar girl? Mama Alfredo's pasta?    
         
    Are you saying that my standards are too high or unrealistic?

RealityBites 1310 reads
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I spend way too much time on searching

wish I was home more often, but travel for work....

So I gots to do my research! Met many nice ladies all over. Good or bad I review. Yep. Slam me, idc. Smart hobbyist here. Not gonna be denied if I call a hooker out. Same to be said if I gloat about one.

I am fair and I contribute to the hobby. Just not dumb enough to put my handle out there ha ha.

justanillusion 1238 reads
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In addition

If perfect women do become hookers, they charge like a wounded bull, more than 90% of the men on here are willing to pay.

justanillusion 1414 reads
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Like I said before

Welcome to the downside of the review system. You guys wanted this and now you have deal with the monster you all created. If you start rating women like sides of beef or at high school holding up numbered cards, what do you expect? Some of these women live and die by their review scores.  

And will do whatever it takes to keep them high. Why, because some guys have repeatedly said they will not see anything below an 8. Hence the "no 7's".  

Thanks for the extra explanation, you know me being a dumb hooker and all, it is appreciated. I do see what you mean but the system is flawed and as some have said, take the scores with a grain of salt.

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 1746 reads
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Re: Guess you're hearing the scuttlebutt

Please check my reviews next week as you do regularly. Another top lady on tap this week. Don't hate! Just enjoy! Oh. And as for believing the words of a guy (?) who has zero reviews and uses an alias, I do. Just like you do the words of a guys reviews who doesn't use an alias. Have a great week. At least the Cubbies are in town, two months to Bears season and lollapalooza is right around the corner! Our city is a great one! Be safe.....

Posted By: ChgoCPA
But I won't throw you under the bus.  
   
 You're doing a fine job on your own!  
   
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
And yes, I'll continue to get your goat. Way too easily. As always.    
     
Posted By: ChgoCPA
You're one of the problems that this thread is speaking to.    
       
   But then you knew that as well.    
       
   Perhaps one day you'll raise your standards and see the world through something other than those rose colored glasses you have on.    
       
   Then I expect you to finally realize that there is a whole world of wonderful women who really are hot.  Give it a shot and you'll finally get it.  Or just keep on doing what you're doing and have no clue.    
       
   Tough to compare when you won't do the taste test.  Don't worry...all your 10/10 hookers will still see you.  Just bring Ben along...it's the secret to this game.  Right?    
       
   
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
If you had reviews we'd know your standards.      
         
   
Posted By: Panthera12
Lets just put it this way. Do you think that a 45 year old provider who is 50 pounds overweight is deserving of a 10 appearance rating? What lifetime is that supposed to be? A cicada's?      
     How about the same provider being gifted a 9? Model material for what? AARP calendar girl? Mama Alfredo's pasta?      
           
     Are you saying that my standards are too high or unrealistic?

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