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Re: Different games call for different rule books...
Dallas_texan 1631 reads
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1 / 47

Ok, so here's the deal. I'm 48, and there's this young girl who is SO FINE I'd do or pay anything to sleep with her. I used to work with her and it seemed like she flirted with me as much as I did her. I no longer am employed at that place but when I left(on good terms) I told this young lady(22) that I wanted to stay in touch and take her to lunch someday. She said sure, that she'd love that. So is it even possible to offer her a donation for a couple of hours of her time? And what line or lines do I use to imply that I want to pay her to sleep with her. I feel like if I offered her a large sum of cash she might just bite. Or slap me. One or the other. So my other question is, has anyone here ever offered a non provider money for there time and companionship? And how did you approach it?  Or am I just living some fantasy in my horny head? Did I mention how HOT this 22 year old college soccer player is? Plz guys don't beat me up too hard here. I am new, and I know there's super fine girls out there that'll be glad to take my donation. But I can't get this girl outta my head.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 646 reads
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2 / 47

Have you ever tried to play baseball following the NFL rules?

Then why are you trying to pursue a RL civie romance using hobby life rules?

I would think that if you offered her money, you'd find yourself shortly missing a gonad or two.

Take her out to lunch, then progress to a dinner and movie, then a play or opera, etc.   Didn't you ever learn the deal?

And keep in mind above all:  Patience is a virtue

Oldtimemonger 612 reads
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3 / 47

Posted By: mrfisher
Have you ever tried to play baseball following the NFL rules?  
   
 Then why are you trying to pursue a RL civie romance using hobby life rules?  
   
 I would think that if you offered her money, you'd find yourself shortly missing a gonad or two.  
   
 Take her out to lunch, then progress to a dinner and movie, then a play or opera, etc.   Didn't you ever learn the deal?  
   
 And keep in mind above all:  Patience is a virtue.  
   
 
Great advice but if he is 48 and she is a 22 year old beauty it is very unlikely she will be interested in him unless she is looking for a rich sugardaddy.  

I can't believe people confuse the hooker world with the civilian word.

PenleyDuke See my TER Reviews 506 reads
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4 / 47

Of yourself @  [email protected]  I will tell you if you should proceed and I will be honest with you.  Ask around here.  I don't candy coat things. 😊

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 423 reads
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5 / 47

Posted By: Dallas_texan
Ok, so here's the deal. I'm 48, and there's this young girl who is SO FINE I'd do or pay anything to sleep with her. I used to work with her and it seemed like she flirted with me as much as I did her. I no longer am employed at that place but when I left(on good terms) I told this young lady(22) that I wanted to stay in touch and take her to lunch someday. She said sure, that she'd love that. So is it even possible to offer her a donation for a couple of hours of her time? And what line or lines do I use to imply that I want to pay her to sleep with her. I feel like if I offered her a large sum of cash she might just bite. Or slap me. One or the other. So my other question is, has anyone here ever offered a non provider money for there time and companionship? And how did you approach it?  Or am I just living some fantasy in my horny head? Did I mention how HOT this 22 year old college soccer player is? Plz guys don't beat me up too hard here. I am new, and I know there's super fine girls out there that'll be glad to take my donation. But I can't get this girl outta my head.

JackDunphy 470 reads
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6 / 47

Just when I think I have covered all the topics at JDU, you come up with this winner.

Let's review for the audience keeping score at home, shall we?

You think she may be into you i.e. her flirting with you.

You flirted back.

She accepts your offer for lunch.

At that point, you are THIS close to fking her civilly and YOU want to pay her???

With your application to my fine university, please enclose your Man Card.  

You won't be needing it anytime soon.

Oh! One last thing.

When the check comes for that lunch with the 22 yr old hottie at the Olive Garden, dont offer to pay extra for the bread sticks and salad.

Those things are free too. :)

Ugh..

Squeezetheorem 442 reads
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7 / 47

If she seemed flirty and agreed to lunch, she may genuinely be up for a roll in the hay with an older man.  Maybe not in the timeframe one grows accustomed to in the hobby, but why not assess her tone during a date? If you want to add sweeteners, bring a present.

If she's not up for a romp, I'm convinced the offer of money would do more harm than good.  I would be consternated if someone I met in the civvie world asked me out and then made an offer during our date.  And I'm a working girl! Lol  
Even taking emotions out of it, being asked could feel like a test of some sort.  

If you must offer, be clear but not too blatant.  When I worked in the strip club, the ones who would openly offer scared me away.  One I did see out of the club and he said during a convo "You know I had a friend who I helped through college and we'd hang out at my place for a couple of hours..." and guaged my reaction and went from there.

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octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 504 reads
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8 / 47

she knows about what i do   and she does not judge but it is not her way of doing things
she also dates over 40 but never accepted money for companionship, she has a civie job and goes to school

if you offered her large sum of money for 2 hours of her time, she would decline it and would never talk to you again....some people are just not wired this way...

do what mrfisher said

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octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 498 reads
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9 / 47

that site does not work...just bunch of hustlers....who want stuff but dont want to suck d..k for it...they just have bunch of sob stories ready to gain your heart and wallet  

Posted By: hiddenhills
 
   
Posted By: Dallas_texan
Ok, so here's the deal. I'm 48, and there's this young girl who is SO FINE I'd do or pay anything to sleep with her. I used to work with her and it seemed like she flirted with me as much as I did her. I no longer am employed at that place but when I left(on good terms) I told this young lady(22) that I wanted to stay in touch and take her to lunch someday. She said sure, that she'd love that. So is it even possible to offer her a donation for a couple of hours of her time? And what line or lines do I use to imply that I want to pay her to sleep with her. I feel like if I offered her a large sum of cash she might just bite. Or slap me. One or the other. So my other question is, has anyone here ever offered a non provider money for there time and companionship? And how did you approach it?  Or am I just living some fantasy in my horny head? Did I mention how HOT this 22 year old college soccer player is? Plz guys don't beat me up too hard here. I am new, and I know there's super fine girls out there that'll be glad to take my donation. But I can't get this girl outta my head.

Y2KM900 15 Reviews 378 reads
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10 / 47

Do you have so little game that you won't even try to bed her with a normal civie date?  WTF.  You offer her money and she takes offense, which is very likely, and you have no other chance, you're done.  

Posted By: Dallas_texan
Ok, so here's the deal. I'm 48, and there's this young girl who is SO FINE I'd do or pay anything to sleep with her. I used to work with her and it seemed like she flirted with me as much as I did her. I no longer am employed at that place but when I left(on good terms) I told this young lady(22) that I wanted to stay in touch and take her to lunch someday. She said sure, that she'd love that. So is it even possible to offer her a donation for a couple of hours of her time? And what line or lines do I use to imply that I want to pay her to sleep with her. I feel like if I offered her a large sum of cash she might just bite. Or slap me. One or the other. So my other question is, has anyone here ever offered a non provider money for there time and companionship? And how did you approach it?  Or am I just living some fantasy in my horny head? Did I mention how HOT this 22 year old college soccer player is? Plz guys don't beat me up too hard here. I am new, and I know there's super fine girls out there that'll be glad to take my donation. But I can't get this girl outta my head.

citizen59 40 Reviews 467 reads
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11 / 47

You do not know what she has in mind.   You are having lunch.  Talk to her.  See where she see "relationship".

LasVegan 358 reads
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12 / 47

her and her situation, the better your chances of figuring out the best way to show her your appreciation.  Money may or may not be the way to show her.  As your dialogue progresses........you will probably learn of some financial need she may have........or not.  If so, your perceptiveness will go a long way.

Since she is a civvie and may not know what is on your mind (other than the physical attraction you both share)........the indirect approach is almost always the best approach.

IMHO

nothrofboston 24 Reviews 375 reads
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13 / 47

I hope you profited from some good advice. What do you think you'll do with ut?  
 I won't lend anymore other to fulfill the lunch date, guage her interest in a fwb/NSA or other tryst and take it from there.  

If she is expecting remuneration, let her bring it up. You may find she's looking for an experienced lover. If that's you ... take the bait, hook, line and sink her.  

Or if she's looking for more experience, you can offer her my number ...yeees

Dallas_texan 390 reads
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14 / 47

I couldn't possibly sit here and tell every little detail of her life and mine. Theres a lot more to the story. And for me to just try the ciivie date is pretty much impossible. I was just wondering if anyone had done something like this before. U know, skip all the BS! I thank you Alyson! I think you in particular hit the nail on the head! That's the best advice here! Why some people here have to act hateful and ugly I don't know. Can't a guy(a new guy) ask questions? Being new here I was hesitant to even post. But I did.  Some great advice(Alyson) some not so great(u know who). I guess I'll keep second guessing myself the next time I'm curious about something

GaGambler 446 reads
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15 / 47

I am hardly an SA expert having only recently joined the site, but my first "date" was dinner and drinks to get to know each other, followed by her spending the entire night with me including sex of course and she asked, and I paid a whopping three hundred bucks.

If she were a hooker she could easily get $3-400 hour even here in Texas.

Squeezetheorem 373 reads
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16 / 47

So I interpreted the 'do' portion of that as perhaps  including dating her in some capacity. I don't think rudeness is called for but I got the impression most responses were aimed at being polite and helpful.

GaGambler 361 reads
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17 / 47

Question number two, What if I offer her a "small" sum of money instead?

GaGambler 274 reads
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18 / 47

The OP isn't looking to pay her to "leave afterwards" the OP is looking to pay because he has so little confidence (perhaps justified) in his game, he thinks it's the only way she will even consider sleeping with him.

I didn't offer any advice to the OP, because it's been my experience that if a guy is too clueless to figure out this kind of thing on his own, all the advice in the world is not going to help him. You think the rest of the board is not giving him enough credit, I will state without a doubt that you are giving him too much.

Freya Fantasia See my TER Reviews 416 reads
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19 / 47

...he gave me a really great gifts all the time. I was a struggling single mom. After our first date, he noticed that I had an old TV so he bought me a really nice one. After our second date he gave me a gold necklace. He paid for car repairs.  He took my daughter and me to Disneyland.  All in the first couple of weeks of dating.  He let me know that he was going to make life easier for me if I was dating him.  And that went really long way with me. It wasn't all about that but it made it difficult for me to let him go.

some-guy 6 Reviews 292 reads
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20 / 47
some-guy 6 Reviews 268 reads
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21 / 47

Your unassuming methods of asking a non pro for sex in exchange for money sound like the subject of a book you could author, and you could title it "How to make everyone fear you and let them know you are a sexual Predator" by Alyson Parker.

Good luck with that.


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Oldtimemonger 418 reads
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22 / 47

Posted By: GaGambler
I am hardly an SA expert having only recently joined the site, but my first "date" was dinner and drinks to get to know each other, followed by her spending the entire night with me including sex of course and she asked, and I paid a whopping three hundred bucks.  
   
 If she were a hooker she could easily get $3-400 hour even here in Texas.
Before they had that you could work out arrangements on the old Craigslist. It's usually 500 out here but it's not unusual to get that type of deal. I don't do overnights but they don't have "time clocks." I've had SA for five years. Have Fun!

Squeezetheorem 199 reads
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23 / 47
BigPeterJohnson 38 Reviews 315 reads
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24 / 47

plus, if she's not liberal in her attitudes about sex at all, you could be looking at legal problems if she decides to go to the cops because she's terribly insulted by your proposition.

lopaw 29 Reviews 285 reads
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25 / 47
GaGambler 360 reads
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26 / 47

Obviously it's not perfect, there are some definite gold diggers on the site who want to charge as much as possible and give as little. There are also some who quite plainly state they don't want a "physical" relationship, but there are plenty of others who give quite a bit of themselves for what they get in return and quite frankly I am enjoying myself there.

Thank you

Oldtimemonger 207 reads
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27 / 47

Normally I like your posts but that sounds like a brain fade.  

"Cons:
She's super offended by your offer and tells mutual contacts, ruining the "good terms" you mentioned "

You need to take some time off and go back to the civilian world for awhile. Ladies willing to engage in prostitution are probably .00000001% of the female population. Just the mention of sex for money makes most girls cringe. To say a typical civilian girl would be super offended is a mild understatement.

some-guy 6 Reviews 287 reads
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mnjohnny247 19 Reviews 395 reads
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29 / 47

Happy to hear you're enjoying yourself so far.  Like you, I'm a mature single monger and enjoy the longer dates.  Dinner, fun, sleep, more fun and breakfast for 3-5 bills.   I have had some amazing local hotties and paid far less than the hobby.  I spent most of last year gone from the TER scene and had a SB that for $2k/mo gave me unlimited access, no clock and kept me satisfied.  Of course that said, you GaG, have a much more active libido than I do, hahaha, so the unlimited plan might wear the girl out.  

A post by Zangari a couple of years ago got me interested in SA and while I agree there are a few pros and gold diggers, there is also an abundance of hot as hell, sweet young women who want to pay for school or get a new car with sugar money.  I think for the guys who are married or have SOs and/or sensitive jobs, the hobby gives them much more discretion and some of the women here are just so HOT that one has got to keep all options open.

some-guy 6 Reviews 201 reads
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30 / 47

have a lady friend who was once approached in such a way and she is still afraid of dating men to this day.

Just a bad, bad idea on so many levels

GaGambler 335 reads
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31 / 47

Some guys (gals) are here because they want to be, others are here because they have to be.

It's pretty easy to tell which camp the OP is in.

mnjohnny247 19 Reviews 219 reads
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32 / 47

I would opine that based on your recent postings you should not be pointing fingers when it comes to creepy.
 
Stalking and predators are a serious problem in this hobby.  Most guys here are just normal horny mongers, but there are those few that are dangerous DBs.  It's a serious issue.  You don't seem to understand that, now THAT is creepy and possibly worse, imho.
 

Posted By: some-guy
Your unassuming methods of asking a non pro for sex in exchange for money sound like the subject of a book you could author, and you could title it "How to make everyone fear you and let them know you are a sexual Predator" by Alyson Parker.  
   
 Good luck with that.  
 

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some-guy 6 Reviews 182 reads
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33 / 47

You don't understand the stigma that hobbying holds to non-hobbyists.

We here in this board are NOT "the norm."

GaGambler 314 reads
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34 / 47

Yes, I am enjoying the sugar bowl as well. but like you said "I have a pretty active libido" so maybe I need two "full access" SBs. lol

I kind of doubt I will stop seeing hookers completely, but if I had one or two women that kept me happy sexually, I might drop down to seeing hookers a bit more sporadically, maybe once a week or so.  

I do kind of like having a girl (or two) to go out with, drinks, dinner, movies etc without having to get emotionally involved with her or paying her a fortune.

some-guy 6 Reviews 213 reads
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36 / 47

Sending a girl a valentine on Feb 14th, while possibly ill-advised in certain contexts at the very worse ... isn't even in the same BALLPARK OF CREEPSVILLE as approaching a civilian "friend" and money for sex.

We have people here in Chicago who do that kind of thing, though. We call them HOMELESS PEOPLE.

You need to get a grip on reality my friend. For reals.



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octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 355 reads
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37 / 47

She is hot like in marriage material type of hot...it is not up your alley lol

Oldtimemonger 190 reads
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38 / 47

Either way she will most likely flip out. Offering her money will creep her out worse if she is a normal civilian girl

mnjohnny247 19 Reviews 213 reads
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39 / 47

I'm not really your friend...LOL  I also said I didn't agree with Alyson.  Comprende?  

I'm not referring to you giving a gift to Octavia as creepy, although around P4P it was not wise or safe for her.  I'm referring to your responses after being called out for that "act of kindness"  Of course, you've had some of your responses removed,  but I and many others did read them.

So, are we clear?  Not about the original act, it's about the fact that your response to those who expressed concern was to brush them off with smart ass and snarky responses.  Then you bring your obvious issues with Alyson into this thread.  So "dude" what would you call that?  And, no it's not just offering your opinion.  And “dude” you should stop PMing  threats, maybe creepy is not the word.  Does Bully work for ya?

Men who belittle the problems of stalking and bullying are creeps, some call them DBs.  We may disagree with Alyson but your response has gone beyond that imho

And yes, I do think your behavior has been creepy, your posting behavior..got it? Maybe there is more, we'll see.
 
Posted By: some-guy
 
 Sending a girl a valentine on Feb 14th, while possibly ill-advised in certain contexts at the very worse ... isn't even in the same BALLPARK OF CREEPSVILLE as approaching a civilian "friend" and offering sex for money.  
   
 We have people here in Chicago who do that kind of thing, though. We call them HOMELESS PEOPLE.  
   
 You need to get a grip on reality my friend.

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some-guy 6 Reviews 175 reads
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40 / 47

ut approaching a civie "friend" and offering money for sex ... equals CREEPY TO THE 1 BILLIONTH POWER.

Don't expect her to be a "friend" for long. And don't expect anyone who catches wind of the act to be your friend either.

Sorry dude. You know I'm right.

some-guy 6 Reviews 191 reads
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cause now ... not only are you a CERTIFIED CREEP.

But you are a certified creep  who uses conversational techniques and off-hand references in order to broach the subject and manipulate the person using deceptive and round-about language and references.

If you're going to be a creep ... at least don't be a manipulative creep.

Your advice is dangerous. And I am convinced it will result in LoPaw having a much greater dating pool to draw from. Once women everywhere experience this type of inapropriate advance ... and decide that they are now going to switch teams. Your advice, my friend (or non-friend) will be the end of straight women. And thus, the end of straight-sex with men. Forever. Thank you for destroying straight sex, Alyson Parker

GaGambler 317 reads
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42 / 47

Alyson's advice is almost exactly what I would have had in mind.

You can't just make an "indecent proposal" to some civvie chick half your age without running a serious risk of getting your face slapped or worse.

One of the least offensive ways to work this type of thing into conversation is to bring up seeing something like "seeking arrangement" into a conversation, commenting that she is more than hot enough to get a bunch of interest, downplay anything negative about SB's being nothing more than hookers and depending on her reaction offer to be her "test run" Any guy with the least bit of game could run this trial balloon without getting his face slapped, but I seriously doubt the OP has even the least bit of game.

some-guy 6 Reviews 201 reads
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43 / 47

o you honestly think the OP or any of the other Romeos in this particular playing are going to do anything but shoot themselves in the face when attempting this kind of feat?

Just think about that for a few minutes

mnjohnny247 19 Reviews 199 reads
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44 / 47

You obviously don't get it.  I've just wasted my time posting 2 responses because you post with such arrogance that you don't even consider what others are saying. I'm saying that your responses to those who challenged you on the wisdom of the VD gift  and your responses to concerns about stalking are creepy.

And holy shit, you just changed the argument completely.  Nowhere in Alyson's post does she advise that it is ok to offer money to a platonic friend that you already have.  WTF, that comment you made,  which I quoted below is just  dishonest.  That's how you play?  Change the parameters in the midst of a discussion?  I call BS on that!

I assume your comment about "a message board you don't like" was meant for Alyson because it doesn't apply to me.  I know she doesn't like YOU!

But you want to talk about Alyson's post ?  Ok, I don't think her post was the best advice, but it's not that creepy either. Certainly not creepy to the 1 Billionth power (exaggerate much?)  For the record, I've been around this game for 35+ years.  I've dated women in this world, had them as SOs and married a provider back in the day, date in the sugar world and once owned an interest in a Strip Club  In this age of sugar babies (which you claim to know about) approaching a civie girl with money is done very frequently IF and I mean IF the convo leads there in a lunch or dinner date.  It's not about homeless people bothering women in Chicago.  That's a completely dishonest extreme position to take in this discussion, but since it works for your argument you pony it up.  I'm not buying.    

I have a friend (60 and rich) that has a smokin hot SB (23). She is a service adviser where he gets his car serviced.  She solved a warranty problem for him and he invited her to lunch as a thank you.  He is also a monger and had in the back of his mind that he would like to as he said “hit that sweet little ass” They had lunch one day when she was off.  As they finished lunch he said straight up, "I'd love to spend the afternoon with you and I can make it worth your while”.  An hour later they were at his house in bed.  Then she told him she had two friends interested too, all three at least 8 on the TER scale.  He's having fun with all three, probably will kill him.  LOL  Ten plus years ago, this would be rare and creepy.  Today, not so much.    

I'll finish where I started two posts ago.  I think your posting over the last couple of days in response to the critique of the VD gift issue has been creepy.  I know some here think your entire posting history is filled with creepy posts.  I'm not going to waste my time to look and I don't care.  I don't think you are a "straight shooter", at least your posting persona isn't, imho, but that can change. It's up to you.  Go ahead and have the last word...........  

 
Posted By: some-guy
 
 But approaching a civie "friend" and offering money for sex ... equals CREEPY TO THE 1 BILLIONTH POWER.  
   
 Don't expect her to be a "friend" for long. And don't expect anyone who catches wind of the act to be your friend either.  
   
 Sorry dude. You know I'm right.
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GaGambler 182 reads
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45 / 47

Now please reread the rest of it because that's EXACTLY what I said. sheesh.

some-guy 6 Reviews 180 reads
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Posted By: GaGambler
Now please reread the rest of it because that's EXACTLY what I said. sheesh.

mash1000 11 Reviews 312 reads
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47 / 47

Agree, you can get your dicked sucked plenty on SA, have to invest a little more time and know what to look for , but you can have plenty of sex on there at a $200 to $300 range even.   Octavia is right too, plenty of hustlers on the site as well...

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