IMHO cash is king if it's in a white, pink or yellow envelope, or if it's just cash on the nightstand. No problem and no preference with us.

It takes little to know effort to buy a greeting card.  You can get one almost everywhere (drug store, gas station, convenience store, etc.) and augment it with the intended gift.

That, of course, was bullshit. It was also part of the GFE illusion.

oragami envelope  can be made easy with just a sheet of paper

A Provider friend of mine bought me 100 of them.  As sort of an experiment she wanted to see what type of reaction I would receive.  Some of the responses so far:

"How elegant."
"Classy."
"Stepping up your game."
"Very nice."
And a few more but the majority hasn't commented on them at all.  

Envelopes provide a convenience of passing money without others knowing it's money. Usually in public. Well for non-walker providers you're not exchanging money in public. So it doesn't matter.

If the envelope is sealed you need to open it to count money - this is just an extra step that is pointless. I'd assume provided want to make sure correct sum is issued.  

Envelope is a holding device for money - is it really better than a wad of cash? I guess if you have to carry a lot of cash from many clients in a purse, it may be better to have envelopes to conserve space. That's like one advantage I can think of for providers.  

 
For clients I struggle to think of why I'd prefer to have an envelope over just hard cash. It just seems like a pointless extra step.

The whole concept is silly these days and there's no point to it. Out of habit I still use them but they really serve no purpose when you're in private. Sometimes if I didn't have any handy I'd just fold up a piece of paper and fashion a makeshift envelope.

 
I laugh when I read the required etiquette points on some websites:

 
Place the envelope on the counter when you walk in, do not make reference to it, don't look at it, don't touch it again, don't hand it to me", etc. as if these things would prevent an arrest.  

 
In the states I am most familiar with (especially NY and CT) money doesn't even have to change hands to be charged with the crime - as long as there is intent that's all that matters.

Having it in an envelope is not only easier to carry around, but also more classy to leave on the table rather than slapping down a wad of cash.  

It's easy enough to use a deposit envelope from your bank or reuse the prepaid envelope from within one of those credit card offers, or bill payments, etc.

a simple greeting card. I don't believe any envelope or card is necessary, but it does add just a touch of extra class, IMO.

spin on an envelope, IME, it really kicks up the sessions!
No trouble or bother for me to bring them to the girl I see!

Is either sitting in plane sight, handed to the provider, placed in the bathroom - whichever she prefers, as I always ask beforehand. And yes ,this is done at the beginning of the date ,not ar the end.

I have a box of envelopes and have always used them.

For me it makes the visit less transactional, more like a real date.

The other plus is that if I’m using 20’s, or other small bills , it reduces the possibility of fumbling the bills, or dropping them all over the floor.

I ditched them long ago. Cash is no longer King.

When I receive a card it’s a really thoughtful 🤔 gift, not just an envelope. Even my friends who mail me money it always comes with a personal card and a thoughtful message. Most people have clients, but I prefer connecting with my friends. The majority of my friends pay in full prior to our meeting it’s better because money is never mentioned. I rarely have cash 💵 because there are so many other options that keep it super simple for me and my current lifestyle. Do what works for you. We are all very different and have different needs.

Adds a certain style. I’m not the kinda guy who’s gonna walk in and make it rain

I put the cash in a gift card and place it on the TV stand.

It really doesn’t matter. I don’t think more or less of a client because they put my donation in an envelope.

Amazon has white envelopes for a very low price.  Not getting why this is a big deal.  

if it puts them at ease then why not...  There are lot of rituals and silly habits, even superstitions, embedded in many cultures that make no logical sense, but if keeps the people happy and their anxiety under control then who really cares.   You can run your shop however you deem fit, but a lot of people will still be carrying those dopey white envelopes - especially the older folks.  

 
As someone who almost has exclusively paid for sex, at times I have used them, at times not.. Never gave it a very serious thought and had never had a girl complain why i didn't use one.

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I never get grief about just setting the cash on a table or dresser top.  

 
I agree that obfuscating the payment, rather than directly handing the cash over hand-to-hand like at the convenience store or restaurant does help keep the illusion up but not like anyone is unaware of the transactional nature.  

 
Certainly doesn't do anything to protect anyone legally or from a rob or anything else like that. Maybe helps in terms of having it all counted out ahead of time but the envelope is hardly required for that.

Much more available in the kitchen before you leave for an appointment.  Make sure to have 2, one for the donation, and the other for the condoms used during the appointment.

Congratulations  scarlet!! I didn’t think anyone could beat out “Amazing Single Mom” Bia for the most inane post but dagnabit you’ve done it.  
And of course all your little cuckolds have piled in with deep thoughts on such an interesting subject…White envelopes. Perhaps that’s what Hamlet was grasping at, not whether life is worth all the troubles existence offers but rather whether or not to drop his gold pieces willy-nilly or to wrap them in a small silk purse.  
As the old saying goes “men pay women for sex to leave,” I’d pay a pretty penny to see these boards return to men offering or receiving tips on the best tits, so to speak.
And then you can start a separate section, Perhaps Big Mama Bia’s Community” where you can all discuss Bia’s parenting skills, how to stop fake reviews, what’s the best vibrator, what’s your favorite color and other vital subjects. Of course all “Bia’s Boy Toys,” are permitted to join.  
Yours truly,
DisrespectfulDick

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Hi Loves !! Oh, I absolutely love when it’s placed in a clean, professional envelope - left discreetly in the powder room (for outcalls) or simply in a spot that’s obvious to both of us. Personally, I feel that counting the donation upfront is such a “vibe killer.” Most of my  clients already know how I like it, and yes, please continue being thoughtful, smart, and elegant by leaving the donation in a white envelope.

OMG, this just reminded me of when I first started - this one guy actually asked me for change! So -  No! Please, don’t ever do that.  

 
xoxo  
Sunna

I thought today everything was electronic at some point between the two?

I haven't used an envelope in years, high end hooker or not. Haven't had a single complaint except one chick that didn't want to "touch" the money in front of me. Of course, this was after the fucking had taken place, so no idea what that was about. Just another law enforcement expert I guess.

I suppose if it means that much to them I can wrap the money in tissue.

If it's cash, it's whatever. Not hard to get envelopes. I go with what floats the providers boat.

 
If I am being honest, the cash itself is what's more outdated. I get it, and respect it, cash is king. And if that's your comfort, I am not pushing back.

 
That said, I literally have so many options for electronic payments, Venmo, PayPal, Apple Pay, Cash App, and Zelle. With most people in my life, and many who run their own business (hairdresser, house cleaners, massage therapists, etc...), I am able to use at least one of these options. Taking at least one, if not more, of these would be the move to modern times.

...guys should give the payment how it's been asked for.  Why create a potential issue and maybe fuck up your session by doing it some other way?  I'm sure I'll get the "buddy" response on somehow I'm wrong or writing this will get people on the FBI list or at least be brought to school on how most men think.  

If no instructions given, I grab an appropriate retail $5-$10 gift card and use as the package for the money or (depending on who I'm seeing) maybe an amazon card and put $20 on it and stuff the cash into it and leave it in a noticeable location unless directed otherwise.  Good icebreaker too with a "Hey, let me buy you your next latte'"

A greeting card is going to run $5 anyhow and has zero value after so why not?  K-girl place...bills are set down on the kitchen counter, no fucking around needed.  

Nobody ever asked why I used to keep a box of envelopes in my car "back in the day" when it was standard practice.  Other than the assumed deniability part re LE, I *believe there was also something about it that might have made the session a little less transactional and easier on the self esteem for some ladies.  

Take it for what it's worth, I'm good whatever you decide to choose as the proper way for the industry to handle the compensation issue.  Otherwise, good threAD!

*this wording was chosen to indicate that the statement is and was my opinion, not a mansplanation so save the rant sweetie.

I've been doing this since I was eighteen & a half (I'm now 49).  So, I have learned somethings.  

#1----First of all, when it comes to money.......
     *  Make sure that your Clients know that you set the cost of your services (And they change when you want them  
         change).
     *  How you want to receive the money  

#2----Listen to your gut when you are talking to both new & Existing Client. Meaning, listen to the answers you get to the  
         questions that you ask. Because Police Officers, FBI & All Other People like that know what we do and they learn  
         more & more about what we do each year.

I still like my cash in an envelope but I don’t specifically ask for a white one. Some guys bring greeting cards while others put it in the cash envelope you get from a bank. As long as I get the cash it honestly doesn’t matter how they present it to me.

I would prefer ladies don’t require it because sometimes I don’t have a chance to grab one— but I usually bring the donation in a non-sealed envelope. I don’t think anyone I see explicitly requires them though.

I always purchase a thank you card where I write a personal note of appreciation and include my gift.

Envelopes help immerse myself in the experience. After 16 years or so in the hobby, I started using artisanal envelopes with fancy designs. I usually get them off Etsy. The women loved them, and even a few asked me if I had any to spare as they wanted to use them to gift to other people in their lives. They would also post the envelopes on their social media and say what a nice gesture it was

So its not a necessity, but it became one of the many nice things I do that improves the experience. I have consistently gotten the very best from the women I meet, often receiving better service than mentioned in their reviews. Nothing beats creating great chemistry for getting the very best from someone