She wrote:

"After I came home I waited and waited for a review of where yaj posted he wanted to keep me
all to himself and had an issue with a review. I felt like I earned the review yet it took a group to
get on him to review."

What...The...Fuck?

EARNED the review?   And then "It took a group to get him to review?"  So she pressures him for a review that she felt she was entitled to.  How many others has she pressured?

She's just an example of the problem.  The boards and back channel are rife with reports of review pressure and score inflation.

Do you feel that the Provider is entitled to the review or is it entirely up to the guy?

Some girls are UTR, and ask not to be reviewed (I almost always honor that request), some I've seen  in the past are just so horrible (usually service wise- I don't see ugly girls)  that I won't waste the 45 mins it takes to write a review.   Others I've not reviewed for other reasons.  I've seen a lot more girls than I dare care to admit LOL , and only review when I feel like it. God knows I do NOT need the VIP days (I have thousands).

No one is "entitled" to a review, just like no guy is "entitled" to a White List.   As far as "pressure",  LMFAO  (you've gotta be kidding)  I'm an alpha male, and never get pressured or flustered. I'm virtually unflappable.

Nice to see you posting again TUDE !

just like it is up to you if you want to see a gal, repeat with her, and reviewer her. Same is said if a girl wants to see you, see you again, and whitelist you. For whatever reasons anyone has, it a choice that each has and has a right to.

I simply say when leaving, "If you would like to review me, you may. I am more than happy to meet you again". Let's face it, some girls don't want to be reviewed and some don't want to see you again. It is no different for the guys. I mention it once and never speak of it again. Plenty of men said they would review me and didn't, for whatever reason. I am happier that they are a repeat.

Pressuring some to write a review is only going to bite you in the a$$. It can be placed in the review or he can take off for it! I have no problem with whom you are referring to (OP's reference). In general, pressuring a guy to write a review, other men will wonder what else a gal pressures them to do.

That posting by reviewer, was written by a guy who is butthurt that she refuses to see him. Yes, I read the thread you are speaking of. They are both wrong. She shouldn't pressure him and he shouldn't bash her because he keeps bringing up money problems to her and thus doesn't want to see him anymore. I understand both parties.



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Whether to write a review or not is the guy's decision...

-- Modified on 3/3/2013 8:10:09 AM

But let's establish that upfront or after the session, and not let it be a passive/aggressive miscommunication thing.

I read the posts on the Boston board as well, and while dramatic reading, I fail to see the sense of ranting on a Board when one is angry.  Ok, it's done in general all the time, but here the individuals are degrading themselves with personal attacks on another.

Thank you, Amber, for a very well stated discussion of requesting reviews, etc.   What I can't fathom would be why a provider who seemed to have some concerns about johnnie would try to solicit a review from him?   Of course, we don't we the full story, but the story as presented is crazy.

We all have choices that we make. It is MY choice who I see and it is HER choice if she wants to see me. It is MY choice if I review and MY choice what score I give. I have never been pressured to give a review or a score and  would NEVER allow it.

Also if I spend to much on the hobby that is MY choice and MY responsibility and not hers.

So, in that sense, I would argue that there is moral imperative to review, especially if you research reviews in making your decisions on whom to see.

On the other hand, a provider does herself no good by whining if she does not get a review; and clients don't do themselves much good whining about their whining.  It's very easy to shrug off, as shruggable things go.

On occasion, there are good reasons not to write a reveiw, but 90%+ of the time, writing reviews is the right way to go.  If you just don't want to, then don't.  There's no reason to go further with the subject.

...and it was actually from the provider who taught me the ropes of the hobby.  BP girl, and she was stunned that I hadn't yet walked into an LE trap or been robbed.

Anyway, she tells me about TER and how she had recently received some incredibly unfair reviews that depicted her as "high maintenance" and as possessing "the most ridiculous set of rules ever".  I promised her I would look at the site and see if I was comfortable setting up an account and writing a review for her.

We then ironically proceeded to have a session that digressed into more rules than the IRS field manual.  Didn't seem right to put her on blast in my first review after she was kind enough to, you know, effectively keep me out of jail, so I never reviewed her.

What a hottie though, gorgeous college cheerleader type.  If only there was a way more intimate way to fuck without actually touching eachother, which is what it seemed like we were doing....I swear if I had knocked her up that day through condom malfunction it would have been Immaculate Conception 2!

Not every client likes to write them, and I can totally respect that. I wouldn't want every client I see writing a review, to be honest.

I like to float it by them after our meeting, by saying "If you write reviews and would like to write one for me, that would be welcomed and appreciated. If not, I understand" and just leave it at that. Why would I want to harass someone into writing a review? That would not only ensure no repeat business, but I think it would bias the review.

And I personally prefer quality over quantity. I'd much rather have a handful of well crafterd well written reviews (regardless of the numbers given) versus a new review every other day that's nothing more than a string of abbreviations and misspelled obscenities.

The only time that I get a little irked is if someone tells me they will definitely write a review and then they don't. But I don't bug them about it or anything. That's really more of a pet peeve than anything :P

That guys who talk/brag the most get the least.

Alpha, give me a break internet tough guy……I bet you pee-pee your panties when someone says boo.....more like Walter Mitty, you are a legend in your own mind.

Keep dreaming, internet stud.

To be honest, I rarely mention TER at all when seeing a new lady.  I've only used my handle once to arrange an appointment, I didn't review the lady and she never asked for one-it may be because she has a ton of great reviews any way...

I probably wouldn't see any provider who was that openly hung-up on reviews...at least not for a second time.

Mr Fisher


Read these posts and you will understand the meaning behind the review. Yaj  thinks or at least thought that reviews were meant to post when one had a bad experience.He was clueless and many of the members chimed in to help him. I laugh at how this has been twisted and before someone investigated anything before running to post any commentary as a result for completing an agenda to better assist based on self created and drama intentionally created where unwarranted . Shame on men I never thought they could or would want to outnumber the vast amount of women who have carried this trait of spite and revenge in both the civie world of the days of women soap operas and telephone chats with gossiping neighbors lol!


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Like your situation he was unaware and thought reviews were meant to be written based on bad sessions. I sent in a few links to have them post here so you can read his questions.So when
I posted that I was waiting it was to help him learn that reviews need not only be based on a bad session and there was even a post up after my trip with my client chiming in to tell him about reviews as well.Cannot find it.

Angela

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In the thread you linked,  you say you can take or leave the review:

"Feel free if you wish to submit. I had
mentioned not really anxious to receive during a political discussion between us.
(could take it or leave it)  comment I made."

Yet in the posts you had pulled from last night you clearly wrote that you were waiting for it and thst "it took a group" to get him to review.   You feel entitled and you pressure for reviews as well as future appointments obviously.

No . Time and again it was posted that yaj was not understanding the review system.Again: All his reviews were based on poor sessions that he was not happy with .If you care to read the links posted you can clearly see that he was learning . No one pressured him. Yes I dont really care alot about reviews but in this case I felt as did others that if he had a good time to review about it. All he had were negative ones and he was under the impression that he should only post negative ones .Why can't you understand that? It must be difficult to have a debate when you do it with hate. What is the debate here anyway? To prevent guys from meeting me ? Or to discuss the post that originated? Because if you do it with focus on the OP without the nastiness it would attract more diligent people but if all you want to do on Sunday is be  an angry bird the better of us dont really care to continue communicating with you .  




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before  I see a provider. If I've given them my ter handle, which I do sometimes,  they can do their homework and see, it's pretty obvious I write reviews. BTW, I rarely get asked to write a review. However, I will sometimes mention when I'm leaving a session that I plan on writing a review, especially if I've enjoyed the company.

Always make sure you use the "quote" function with any AP sighting.  Wonder why she has to go to Boston to find some unsuspecting john?  No one in Chicago wonders!

She plays the "victim" card better than anyone on TER.  Gotta give her props on that  LOL

But then with as long as she's beenaround...hell, almost 2553 days she's mastered the game.  Even all the Les Mis cast knows about her.  

And of course she needs any good review.  And has to make sure that anything bad is pulled.

Just another BSC hooker that manipulates the TER system.

And yea...the dude was getting pressured by AP and her posse...no doubt about that  LOL

The preacher hooker hater . Do you ever spend any time with your wife and family while you
live here?

And you know that I have a wife and family?  I guess you've been at Miss Cleo's recently!

Did you finally get that poor sap to write the fake review?  Or are you and your pals going to "out" him?

Just curious!

However, I had a provider recently try to have me inflate the scores, which I wouldn't. I didn't review her for fear of repercussion. I feel it is up to the guy, as we are paying for the service. But in fairness, some of the ladies don't want the review as they may want to remain under the radar. I will respect their wishes, in that case.

What poor sap? Obviously you can't follow the topic jumping to your own conclusions again.
Yes aren't you a married man who hires hookers ?

Doesn't it take you all day to put together your "victim" posts?

As well as your threatening to blacklist posts?

You're a tool...and an extremely dangerous person to be anywhere near.  Thank god you're not in ChiTown anymore (please tell me you're NOT coming back...PLEASE).  Hopefully you'll find johns in other towns to pay you enough to stay away from here.  But not a good start in BeanTown  LOL

Why not try NYC....they have a fetish for old Grandma's there.

I didn't even name you in my OP.  I linked to the posts that you subsequently had pulled to show that the quotes were from a real post.

As I said, you're just another example.  A prime example of manipulative providers to be sure, but just one of quite a few.

Do I want to prevent guys from meeting you??  Don't flatter yourself.   You aren't worth even that little bit of an effort.   It's not about you, it's about the behavior you represent.

I'll agree with you about old or misleading (edited) photos.

But I have no issue at all with a lady asking for a review.  I have an issue with a lady asking me to write a dishonest one, but why would I be upset if she asked for an honest one?  It's part of the business, and no different than JDPowers surveys after I buy a car.

But you do seem to rant about a lot of posts, and often (like this time) bring in other things to rant about while you are at it.

We all have differing ideas on what should and shouldn't be in them or what they should and shouldn't cover or be used for.

Personally, I do not post a review about a provider I have seen if I can not give her a positive review unless something bad happens that people need to be informed about. I subscribe to the theory that is you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it. Now, this will piss some professional hobbyists off I am sure but just like the provider is not entitled to reviews I am not obligated to give them. Not by the provider OR other hobbyists.

Part of my thinking is this. I will not write a review if I can not score high on the attractiveness scale. The reason for this is that I do not believe this should be a part of the scoring process in the first place as it is an entirely subjective thing. My 6 may be another mans 9. If someone sees me give a lady a 6 and then doesn't see her because of it he may be missing out on someone that he would have found very attractive if he gave her a shot. We should indicate (as we do) if she matches her pictures and that should be it.

Another basis for my thinking is that this is a hobby for some of us (not for me but some) but it is a business for the women and a much more serious matter. A guy may blow of some steam and write a negative or even false review for spite but it affects the woman in a stronger way. Many women rely on the rush of interest that comes from the recent reviews section for their area and a needlessly negative review can put a serious damper on this.

The business aspect aside, these women are real people. I just can't imagine what it would be like as a man to see some stranger for an hour or more of forced intimacy during which I must somehow not only allow some random guy to have his way with me but manage to give a GFE experience at the same time. Sorry but as a man I can NOT imagine this. I don't know how the ladies do it. To then have that lady after giving her all see a review a day or two later that essentially is a slap in the face from that same guy is a level of rudeness that I simply can not take part in.

So to summarize this is what I am saying. I will not artificially inflate my review ranking or write anything I do not believe or feel but I also will not write a review at all if I can not write a glowing one. This is not dishonest. It is just selective. I am also not saying not to write a negative one if it is truly warranted and other men need to be warned of something. But I hate when no thought at all is given to these women's feelings or livelihoods when needlessly negative or hurtfull reviews are posted.

And, hobbyists should not feel they are "entitled" to a reference, either. Many ladies do not give refs, but those of us who respond to those requests in a timely fashion so you can see other women, appreciate a plug for our good service and continued professionalism. It's a two way street. I don't have a problem providing a ref for a guy who does not post reviews at all, but it is a bit shitty to expect me to give one to someone who can't even take 20 min. to write a review of our time. It is also easier for me to provide refs when I recognize a TER handle.

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Fair point. But I wouldn't use a girl as a ref that I didn't write a review on. that said I also wouldn't use a girl as a ref that didn't give me a TER whitelist and/or P411 OK and also told me it was OK to do so.