I have been seeing a provider that I enjoy and am planning on seeing frequently in the future. She enjoys me, and is always happy to see me as well.

She does not provide full time, it is income augmentation for her, as she goes to school, and has a regular (very low paying) job.  Her rate is $300 an hour.

My spending with her from August until January will be a little over $7K.

If this were you, would you consider me to be a below average,  average, above average, or exceptional customer?  The focus of the question is financial, given that on a personal basis, we get along fine.

We all handle our businesses differently, so why don't you try talking to her about it and see what she is most comfortable with.........

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You guys are a riot today...bury me i've died of laughter.

I am contemplating proposing a financial/time arrangement that would benefit both of us, and am trying to think through the structuring of it relative to how the business is valued from her point of view.

The difficulty of this from my point of view is that (according to this board), providers are business people.  But standard business practices don't apply, so trying to negotiate terms and conditions always has to deal with the potential blowback if an ego gets insulted.  So I am just trying to think this through, using the standard business practice of preparing for a negotiation by looking at a deal from the other side of the table

Average. Unless you are laying out 7K right now, who says you'll be back? And what is "frequently?" Can't pay my bills off of maybes baby. You can average out your visits and budget whatever you'd like, but the next guy could come by 2x more a week than you. Then you are below average. The next guy that comes by, makes 4x more appointments than you, tips and brings her gifts is her exceptional customer. Worry about your hour, and take it one appointment at a time and have fun! Unless you are assuming her rent, car payment or tuition all at once, don't pat yourself on the back just yet.

i really have no clue as to exactly what you are saying here..maybe a pre-nup would work..just sayin..

amount of times for x amount of money, and I get the money upfront to make sure his ass does not "get called to work, get sick, break his foot, get a runny nose" etc. Guys often try to do this crap to get a discount, then don't follow through on their end. When they pay upfront, you can bet your ass nothing happens that month! If you saw her 4 times in a month and paid say 600 per time, that's 2400 you shelled out.

For the same amount of times but with a guaranteed arrangement, you might pay 1800. I can't say what another lady would do, I am just giving you an example. I would never offer a discounted rate per date, but will do a monthly agreement.

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a part time sugar daddy pays the bills and gets some pussy when she decides to give it to you..a john just pays for the pussy up front and lets her worry about paying her own bills..

I have tipped and brought gifts, and have been seeing her weekly.  So I have some proven history with her.

Your argument is about who bears the risk.  Without going into what I am contemplating, I am the one that will hold the risk in this deal.  And the frequently part of the deal will be an exact committment of number of appointments/time so she can calculate its exact value/benefit.

But I will put your answer into the "would rather not negotiate" category.  Your response is in line with what most providers that post on this issue say, in that they operate on the premise that they want no risk at all.

Not with you of course, it would cost me too much to come to the swamp.... but I like the concept.

I say I am bearing the risk, so what 2 ways am I trying to have?

That is what a good escort does. It's the job. Would you have kept seeing her if she appeared to be bored, sick of the sight of you....need I say more?

What you're looking for is a price break. Ask her and see what she says. Asking us will do you not one ounce of good, you're not seeing any of us.

I look at it this way, I see my hair stylist once a month and have been paying full price for 3 years.  She is very personable and friendly toward me. She does a great job on my hair plus she acts like she likes me. All apart of the service and I appreciate her for it. Would I ask her for a discount...no, I want my hair looking great. Sometimes with discounts come a change in service...not always but you'll never know until you ask for that discount.

Some ladies would offer a discount, others won't. If she has not offered as yet, I doubt she will. But you never know..she just might at your yearly anniversary.



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this thread is going exactly nowhere with this dunderhead..

As does a hobbyist. All you can do is bring up this question to her and let the cards fall where they may.

I had a guy ask for a discount because he said we were friends. We are not friends...he is a paying client whom I treat very well. Don't let the illusion of a girlfriend cloud the real situation...you are paying an escort to act like your girlfriend

I thought it over and responded with I accepted the offer and countered with x amount of time that your x amount of dollars gets you. He accepted and I have no ill will towards him because he was fair. In fact I give him over my time and he tips, so win win. Most times a guys wants a discount he wants the freaking world and some, for less money. Those types can pound sand!

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well...just a bit creepy. Are you average, above average, or exceptional?---based on the amount of money you have spent with this girl?

Who cares if you've spent a little over 7K on her between Aug and Jan? You are a client. Just like the rest of her clients. Make her an offer for an exclusive deal. Either she will accept your offer, or not. No one here can possibly anticipate what her answer might be.

With that said, I am assuming you are a married guy? The one who was recently talking about how to get your wife more engaged in sex? And, your wife responded by communicating that she was willing and eager to work with you on this?

I won't bother to apologize for the judgmental tone of this comment: getting some sex because you're not getting what you want at home is one thing. Contemplating offering a young provider/college student a stipend to keep her on retainer to fuck, when your wife has already clearly communicated to you that she is open to working on your relationship, is quite another.

And, assuming you're still going to stomp all over your wife on this one--do you have some problem with the discreet pay as you go concept?

You should rate yourself on how much money you earn at your workplace, not how much you spend on providers. When I started hobbying, I was like I was a kid in a candy store. I try to budget myself now. I wouldn't know how to rate you financially because I don't know how much you make per year. Some people don't hobby that much even though they are millionaires.

It's really not that hard, why are you making this so confusing?.........

Obviously you found someone you like, so see her accordingly. What's the problem?

You say that 'you' are the one taking on the risk in this deal. What risk is that?

You act like she has actually offered you some kind of "deal" for a set number of apts, and you are now having to decide whether you think her offer is a good deal---and even more off the rail, you've already determined that you need to figure out your risks.

This is not about risk. Far as I can tell...all of this negotiation is happening in private, in your head.

I'm not sure about the time frame, because you wrote "from August to January," but I doubt you would have posted this if you had not seen her since January... I will assume you meant from January to August. So you spent $7,000 in 7 months, or $1,000/month... That would put you on the low end in my book, but some ladies may consider you mid-range...

The reality is that some men spend $7K in one weekend with an escort, and they keep coming back for more. They are considered high end clients by most. You are a regular client of hers and I'm sure she is grateful for your business, but you are probably not one of her better clients, regardless of her being "part-time only". Asking for a deal will most likely not make her any more fond of you, but you may get lucky, she might offer you a flat rate if she feels that it is worth her while... But just how low would you like her rates to be?

You said you would like a "financial/time arrangement that would benefit both of you." She now gets about $1,000/month from you, and sees you for 3-4 hours a month (I don't know if you make one hour appointments or see her for multi-hours, you did not say...). Assuming that she is not "in love with you" and sees you as a client, the only way she would benefit from this would be if you paid her more (which you don't seem to want to do) or spent less time with her (which again, I doubt you'd like to do). Any "arrangement" between the two of you is more likely to be for your benefit only. There is nothing wrong with wanting to get "more" from her, but as you said, she is a student with a low-paid part-time job, so taking advantage of her by negotiating her fees down does not seem like the gentlemanly thing to do.

How long are the dates? How many times a week? Etc etc.

I promise you, the number you have in your head as a monthly stipend is NOT enough. Whatever number you have in your head, double it.  Otherwise she is going to be offended and not want to see you again. Trust me on this.
Because I guarantee there is another guy out there willing to pay more than the number in your head. It may seem like a lot to you, but it isn't.
And please, don't be offended by what I wrote: just believe me and take my honest advice. Because I know wtf I am talking about.
Good luck!

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I used to have a regular client who I would see for an overnight appointment two or three times a month, for which he paid $2500 each appointment. This went on for six months or so, until he asked me to start spending three or four days a week with him for less than I was getting for a single night previously. I said no, and I haven't seen him since.

First and foremost, this is a business, this is how we make a living. Would you start working significantly more time at your job for less money? Now there's a chance that she may be willing to consider some kind of arrangement which may give you a slight price break. But you shouldn't expect her to agree to anything that's going to result in her making significantly less per hour than she's already getting. Lets say for example that you're currently seeing her for one hour a week, at $300 per appointment, which is $1200 per month. If you wanted to see her twice a week, I'd suggest offering her $2000 a month. You'd be getting $50 off of each hour, but she'd be making it up in the long run.

Then again, with this particular lady it might. My point is what does she get out of it? You have to give to get and no, past performance does not mean shit when you're trying to cut down her hourly rate. She may say "Ok, how about we just set your new rate at 250," or she may be offended and tell you to take a hike.

What you're really risking is losing what you say is a good thing right now...might turn out bad in the end. You're wanting all the befefits of a SB, but want to still pay as a client...good luck with that. If you want a break, she gets a break...get it? The only way I would ever offer such a discounted deal is IF the guy GUARANTEED ME x amount of money per month FOR that benefit...you don't want to guarantee shit either.

Maybe you guys could do a punch card system like Smoothie King...buy 10 smoothies, get one free...gosh.





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Ok, so you want kudos for being a good customer, and you plan on coming back later. Great. But in this business, there are no guarantees. You are looking for loyalty in a transactional relationship. Your future in the relationship is dependent on carrying out future transactions. If you want true loyalty and someone to spend years with in this world, get a dog.  I get that in your mind you have a supposed history and connection, great. The relationship you are seeking may or may not be there. But how about this: if you are truly looking for loyalty and a future in the relationship, why are you debating on a f*ck board and not with her? I personally couldn't be loyal or continue to spend my time with someone that could not communicate what their expectations are in the relationship with me first. You're not going to hear what you want or should do with a bunch of insensitive strangers who couldn't give two shits... IJS... Good luck!

Re: Spent like $6k the last 2 weeks as I got back into the hobby. LOVED IT very fucken much!! e

That  sounds like fun! mmmm
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One enjoys fantasy and the other is delusional.

... and it made me laugh!!!

... or more time for the same amount of money, but he is willing to accept the risk of paying in advance.

To the OP, I have to say just pay as you go. I'm sure arrangements like these work out all the time. However, I'm just as certain that the guy pays in advance and never hears from the lady again happens all the time too.

I can't count the number of times I've seen some poor guy post "I thought I was special" or "I thought she was different" followed by a sob story.

For some reason this made me laugh but yeah...this.

f*ck you that is funny lol.  btw I LOVE Smoothie King!

He is saying he does not want the risk of a prepaid arrangement, or so I thought. IF she is reputable, one review saying she ripped him off is not exactly going to help her in the future.

an acorn now and then.

Glad you found a mac post funny...most of them actually are funny  LOL

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so call me baby!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

Never said I spent it all on hobbying...

800 the first day.  We then went out to a club, spent another 500 on some liquor I could get for less than a 100 at the liquor store.

2000 on second time for a doubles session
1000 for a 2 hrs.

So that's $4300 in that last 2 weeks

The other $1700, I got me a new laptop instead of seeing a nother visiting provider.  HAR HAR


I'd have to say, that was the best damn $1700 I spent cuz I still have it with me after the hour or two. lol