Re: Why is this important to you?

i really have no clue as to exactly what you are saying here..maybe a pre-nup would work..just sayin..

It's really not that hard, why are you making this so confusing?.........

Obviously you found someone you like, so see her accordingly. What's the problem?

I'm not sure about the time frame, because you wrote "from August to January," but I doubt you would have posted this if you had not seen her since January... I will assume you meant from January to August. So you spent $7,000 in 7 months, or $1,000/month... That would put you on the low end in my book, but some ladies may consider you mid-range...

The reality is that some men spend $7K in one weekend with an escort, and they keep coming back for more. They are considered high end clients by most. You are a regular client of hers and I'm sure she is grateful for your business, but you are probably not one of her better clients, regardless of her being "part-time only". Asking for a deal will most likely not make her any more fond of you, but you may get lucky, she might offer you a flat rate if she feels that it is worth her while... But just how low would you like her rates to be?

You said you would like a "financial/time arrangement that would benefit both of you." She now gets about $1,000/month from you, and sees you for 3-4 hours a month (I don't know if you make one hour appointments or see her for multi-hours, you did not say...). Assuming that she is not "in love with you" and sees you as a client, the only way she would benefit from this would be if you paid her more (which you don't seem to want to do) or spent less time with her (which again, I doubt you'd like to do). Any "arrangement" between the two of you is more likely to be for your benefit only. There is nothing wrong with wanting to get "more" from her, but as you said, she is a student with a low-paid part-time job, so taking advantage of her by negotiating her fees down does not seem like the gentlemanly thing to do.

I promise you, the number you have in your head as a monthly stipend is NOT enough. Whatever number you have in your head, double it.  Otherwise she is going to be offended and not want to see you again. Trust me on this.
Because I guarantee there is another guy out there willing to pay more than the number in your head. It may seem like a lot to you, but it isn't.
And please, don't be offended by what I wrote: just believe me and take my honest advice. Because I know wtf I am talking about.
Good luck!

-- Modified on 9/19/2012 10:58:47 PM

I used to have a regular client who I would see for an overnight appointment two or three times a month, for which he paid $2500 each appointment. This went on for six months or so, until he asked me to start spending three or four days a week with him for less than I was getting for a single night previously. I said no, and I haven't seen him since.

First and foremost, this is a business, this is how we make a living. Would you start working significantly more time at your job for less money? Now there's a chance that she may be willing to consider some kind of arrangement which may give you a slight price break. But you shouldn't expect her to agree to anything that's going to result in her making significantly less per hour than she's already getting. Lets say for example that you're currently seeing her for one hour a week, at $300 per appointment, which is $1200 per month. If you wanted to see her twice a week, I'd suggest offering her $2000 a month. You'd be getting $50 off of each hour, but she'd be making it up in the long run.

amount of times for x amount of money, and I get the money upfront to make sure his ass does not "get called to work, get sick, break his foot, get a runny nose" etc. Guys often try to do this crap to get a discount, then don't follow through on their end. When they pay upfront, you can bet your ass nothing happens that month! If you saw her 4 times in a month and paid say 600 per time, that's 2400 you shelled out.

For the same amount of times but with a guaranteed arrangement, you might pay 1800. I can't say what another lady would do, I am just giving you an example. I would never offer a discounted rate per date, but will do a monthly agreement.

-- Modified on 9/19/2012 10:05:09 PM

Re: What is the distinction between a part time sugar daddy and a john that just shows up alot? EOM

a part time sugar daddy pays the bills and gets some pussy when she decides to give it to you..a john just pays for the pussy up front and lets her worry about paying her own bills..

One enjoys fantasy and the other is delusional.

As does a hobbyist. All you can do is bring up this question to her and let the cards fall where they may.

I had a guy ask for a discount because he said we were friends. We are not friends...he is a paying client whom I treat very well. Don't let the illusion of a girlfriend cloud the real situation...you are paying an escort to act like your girlfriend

I thought it over and responded with I accepted the offer and countered with x amount of time that your x amount of dollars gets you. He accepted and I have no ill will towards him because he was fair. In fact I give him over my time and he tips, so win win. Most times a guys wants a discount he wants the freaking world and some, for less money. Those types can pound sand!

-- Modified on 9/19/2012 9:04:28 PM

You say that 'you' are the one taking on the risk in this deal. What risk is that?

You act like she has actually offered you some kind of "deal" for a set number of apts, and you are now having to decide whether you think her offer is a good deal---and even more off the rail, you've already determined that you need to figure out your risks.

This is not about risk. Far as I can tell...all of this negotiation is happening in private, in your head.

Ok, so you want kudos for being a good customer, and you plan on coming back later. Great. But in this business, there are no guarantees. You are looking for loyalty in a transactional relationship. Your future in the relationship is dependent on carrying out future transactions. If you want true loyalty and someone to spend years with in this world, get a dog.  I get that in your mind you have a supposed history and connection, great. The relationship you are seeking may or may not be there. But how about this: if you are truly looking for loyalty and a future in the relationship, why are you debating on a f*ck board and not with her? I personally couldn't be loyal or continue to spend my time with someone that could not communicate what their expectations are in the relationship with me first. You're not going to hear what you want or should do with a bunch of insensitive strangers who couldn't give two shits... IJS... Good luck!

Re: I understand your point, but is there any credit for past performance?

We all handle our businesses differently, so why don't you try talking to her about it and see what she is most comfortable with.........

xoxo