Lets say modern medicine found a way to reverse aging, erase bags, firm up saggy tits, remove varicose veins, love handles. Basically, assume they can do everything and fix up a girl however way you want her to look.  

I started hobbying when the wife stopped giving BJ.  As soon as she goes back to "doing her job", I won't need to outsource.  "Looks" is not an issue, lack of performance is the issue.  This scenario [of wife replacing/stopping hobbying] may very well happen with me.  I must say I have enjoyed the past 10 or so years...and enjoyed the scenery along the way.

we were suddenly on the same level in terms of physical and emotional intimacy - game over.

Even if I hit the jackpot and marry Miss Universe, I will still see escorts from time to time. Sex with the same person gets boring after a while no matter how hot she is or hot good she is in the sack. I will be realistic and reduce the amount though.

15 years of being pushed away. Sex twice in eighteen months. I hobby. She gets her shit together I quit. End of story

I agree with you though.  Who came up with this concept of monogamy anyway.  Somewhere in the course of our history,  some group of stuck up conservative nut jobs wrote the laws and decided to make it almost a commonly accepted rule that once we're with someone we have to sleep with only one person.  If we ogle or feel attracted to another girl it's considered a bad thing.  If we sleep with her it's considered cheating.  I sometimes wonder, who came up with these ideas that conditioned our way of thinking...  

I mean if you suddenly wanted to ram her head till she puked I can understand why but if your MO has not changed and she just stopped I sure as hell would want to know why. Or do exactly what you're doing, outsource.

is a by product of culture and not of nature.

I would need a pretty big bed though.  
In fact,  maybe that'll be how I retire.

I just want one nice nerd and the courage to be open about the fact that every once in a while there may be another, a girl gets lonely. It'll decrease as time goes by though, gravity will not be kind all the time, luckily I'm short so things aren't going to fall too far down (crossing fingers).

What Russ describes is just the way "those people" are. Personally, I can't stand them. and it's not about the money, being in the oil business i deal pretty much only with millionaires, just not the country club variety, I have never seen such pretentious people in my life, and I have no desire to socialize with them.

In all fairness I bet they would bounce me out on my ear if I were ever drunk enough to join one. I can just imagine the look on their faces the first time I got drunk and started talking about TER, or my whore mongering in Latin America, or any one of a thousand other things that might come out of my mouth during a moment of weakness. Somehow I think the loathing and disdain might run both ways.

Familiarity breeds contempt. I'm sure there are many exceptions to this rule but over time what one once thought was cute can now become annoying.  My SO is still very pretty and in good shape but the bottom line is that after 30 years together it's hard to keep the spark alive. I know it happens but it seems to me that I see more couples bickering than having those loving moments from a cialas commercial. As a matter of fact Robin Williams pointed out that cialas/viagra probably was the worst drug ever as far as ladies are concerned.

All those old guys with a boner and the wife has zero interest. And ya know where they end up, calling hookers

I don't mind falling back on the hobby as long as she stays oblivious to what I do outside our bed.  I mean, I guess its all in how I "came up".  Lost my virginity to a provider.  Had providers through my late teens and 20's.  Was only with 4 "civvies" ever in my life and one of those was a married former call girl who was getting a divorce and wanted to cheat on her husband. Then I get married to a good girl.  The gal ain't much to look at, never was, but she's a good person and we were both at a low point in our lives.  Honestly, she gives the absolute best BJ, bar none.  Out of literally the hundreds of women I have been with in my life, she tops all the pros, the ex-gf, the former call girl and my one nighter.  Problem is, she gives em less than once every few months.  Sex is more frequent, like once every 2 weeks or so, but since she is out of shape, and getting older (see original post in this thread), I'm not thrilled.  So, the question is a tough one.  If I could remake her into a younger, more shapely model of herself who had the desire to please me, let's say, 2 -4 times a week (of course as I please her, I LOVE DATY) and perhaps maybe a coupla cups a day once or twice a month, yeah, I could be monogamous.  But it ain't never happening, she despises plastic surgery, she likes to eat and even though she is the best cocksucker in the world, she doesn't like to do it often.  So... ladies... guess I'm stuck sneaking around on the side.  Who's next?

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Who she is, I hobby because of the hundreds of women she can't be.

at least you know who you are and what you're doing. Kudos.  

Since our wedding day, it's been dodge, avoid, delay.  Honestly, I got more sex from ex who hated my guts but was smart enough to know she could not suck my bank account dry if she didn't string me along with once a month sex.  SO it's been more like once a year until it stopped altogether.   All I ever wanted was a complete marriage...  I've realized that I've been hoodwinked a second time.  I only hobby because without it I would be totally celibate.

If I had an SO, I wouldn't hobby.

I don't want another sausage in my bed.  Hey, if I'm gonna get 3 hot babes living with me, I'm pretty sure I'll be paying for it one way or another so it's only fair that I'm the only guy.  :

For the record, despite having been one of your detractors from time to time, I am glad you are still here.

But that doesn't mean that all of a sudden I am going to start being "nice" lol

I don't think I ever want to get married. And I sure as shit don't want to join a country club.

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Hey two out of four aint bad.

I do remember a couple of friends of mine backed out of their weddings at the last minute (both of them women BTW) and decided to cancel the wedding, the honeymoon, and the marriage of course, but decided the reception sounded like too much fun to skip, so they went ahead with that part of the festivities, sans the grooms of course. A good time was had by all.

I think want the 'wedding'. But a wedding and marriage are two totally different things lol.

as we are in agreement on this subject

But I am sure we can find something to fight about. lol

but you will be blue in the face well before I am blue in the balls, I try to never go more than a day or two without getting laid and I doubt that's going to change any time soon.

eh - this does not apply in my case -  my current girlfriend is in her mid 30s and keeps me adequately entertained....    I just get the itch for something different now and then, and, if anything,  hobbying helps me keep my relationship stronger as I don't feel the need to take up with someone new.....

Oh fuck, obviously either I have had too much or too little to drink tonight. I am going to pick "too little" and head back downstairs for a drink, or ten.

than being in a room full of pretentious "country club" gentry whose only concern is how they compare to everyone else socially and financially. I'm not one to hold my tongue, so I usually said my piece in those situations. Guess I'm somewhat likeable so I was labeled as merely "irreverent". And I fuckin' hate golf.

Is because you are not as hot as you once were too? Maybe out of shape and getting older? Jeez guys this shit works both ways.  

If you can't afford a hot young GFE, a middle aged MILF is a lotta fun.  They tend to try real hard and have more fun with it in my experiences.  not a hard and fast rule of course.  Everyone is an individual.  Older, younger, its all about attitude dude.

I have given up on a relationship let alone marriage. I like things kept fresh and exciting and in my experience, that shit disappears in about a year. I love living alone, doing things my way and having friends with off the hook fucking sex. When I get bored or they get bored, we leave out the sex and remain friends.

but I do think I have a problem with "long term" monogamy.

the thought of only fucking one woman for the rest of my life just doesn't register with me, even if she were my soul mate.

and yes most people do "settle" which is why they find themselves here on TER trying to find someone to cheat with without getting caught. I am not judging (well maybe a little) but why go through all the work to "find the one" and then go sneaking around behind her back? I just skip the part where I make any promises that I can't or won't keep and fast forward to the good part where i have sex with a lot of hot babes who don't try to run my live just because I had sex with them.

a 'marriage'...it was simply a piece of paper when I look back. I hate to be a Debbie Downer as you know I always look at the glass half full, however, with marriage you can give, give and give some more, but when the giving is drained out of you and you are still not getting what you need in return, the marriage is just done. And the bullshit begins. But....and a big but....I got the two most important things in my life out of it and that's what makes up for any and everything in the end, and that's all that matters to me each and every day.  

Now that I was nice to her, maybe it's time to start giving her a hard time. lol

Man!  and I thought I had it bad.

I'll debate you until I'm blue in the face or you're blue in the balls, whichever comes first.

Take the house, take the car.  

fairytale wedding (I was one of the few who didn't) as I was in it for what I thought was the 'marriage' part lol. Oh well, 1 out of 4 ain't bad but that didn't fair too well in the end. I do hand it to those very few in this world who are still in love after decades of being together. That is mindboggling to me and they get my utmost respect.  

After no sex for two years, where in the first 30 to 40 years of being together sex was great, I knew it was over.  

I plan on using it to enjoy life.

Jesus. Have a modicum of respect dude.

Aren't you the one who just went on a big rant about how the most despicable thing a woman could do is have a child while providing, next to being married while providing?

And it was DC who said "I'm wired that way."  Some of us are.  As someone who is I find it hard to imagine those who are happy in monogamy.  It took me far too long (and waaay too much money) to figure this out.

She has said even dumber, more outrageous shit than that,  but I am sure it's just the meds talking. That's the best excuse for some of her BSC posts that I can think of.

I think that every time I come back from time spent with a hooker the wife looks better, I'm more willing to put up with the laziness in her grooming, and it makes it easier to fuck her and stay hard thanks to my recent memory of having some chick go out of the way to pretend I'm hot.  
The wife actually wants it from me more than I do from her, so as long as I keep my spank bank renewed with a fresh face, pussy, tits and ass that were recently all over my face I think I can make it with her for a few more years...maybe

Nope, been this way since the beginning.  Plus, I may be older now, but I dropped 40 lbs and .got LASIK. If anything I look better now than I did 15 yrs ago.

I'm sorry but I would suggest rereading the posts. What you are saying here and what I have said past and present are two totally different things.  

For his wife.  To each his own, I guess.

or in Turdy's case, the arrogance of cluelessness.

Is it any wonder he doesn't get along here?

I got into this when my SO stopped wanting sex. We were getting along just fine in other areas, and she was very attractive, but completely disinterested in sexual intimacy and would not make herself available to me.  Now, she's gained a ton of weight and has voiced a renewed interest in sex but I can't respond to her.  Frankly, it takes a substantial amount of time and forplay to get me going anyway. So, now that I've started, under the stated hypothetical could I ever stop completely? I'd like to think so but, quite honestly, I'm not sure.

You can hardly bitch about it now.

You have yourselves to blame. You guys knew all this yet still went ahead with it?  

She might like or even love sex but with guys of her choosing. Being a hooker you have to have the ability to fuck ugly and make like you love it. Some women, no matter how much they love sex,  just can't do that.

Multiple personality that is. More likely, she thought it was gone already at a push of a button. She's really a funny little cheesecake sometimes. Lol.

Because of my profession I will never get married... Ive seen how men are.... You can be everything they could ever want but your only one person.... men will be men....  
I swear over the years ive taken on a mans mentality! I get told all the time by men in my personal life that I dont act like a normal female should when it comes to relationships and love....