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Babylongirls See Agency Profile 1342 reads
posted
1 / 17

If you are independent or thinking about entering the industry, watch out for these 5 major red flags. If you are displaying these, you are not only losing money you are putting your safety and legal standing at risk.1. The "Desperate" Pricing Model

Undercutting the market by 30-50% doesn’t make you "competitive"; it makes you look desperate and attracts the most dangerous, low-quality clients. High-end clients associate low prices with high risk and poor quality. If you are the cheapest option, you will attract clients who have no respect for boundaries.

The Fix: Price for exclusivity and safety, not volume.2. Inconsistent or Unprofessional Communication

Using slang, responding with delays, or having poor grammar in initial inquiries is an immediate turn-off for VIP clientele. Your digital footprint is your resume. If you can’t communicate professionally in text, clients assume you can’t handle the discretion and sophistication required in high-end circles.

The Fix: Treat every interaction as a business negotiation.3. Lack of a Rigid Screening Protocol

"I don’t screen, I trust my gut." This is the fastest way to get doxxed, assaulted, or robbed. Relying on "gut feelings" is not a strategy; it’s a liability. Professional agencies use multi-point verification systems that independents often skip to save time.

The Fix: Implement a mandatory, non-negotiable screening process for every single inquiry. No exceptions.4. Oversharing Personal Details (The "Overshare" Trap)

Posting real-time location data, showing identifiable landmarks in backgrounds, or discussing family details on public forums or social media. This isn’t just unprofessional; it’s a security nightmare. Once your real identity is linked to your work, you lose leverage and safety.

The Fix: Maintain a strict "Zero-Trace" policy for your personal life.5. Ignoring Legal Gray Areas

Many new providers think "I’m just providing companionship" is a magic shield. It isn’t. Using specific verbiage that inadvertently admits to illegal acts in text messages or ads is a legal liability that can be used against you. Agencies spend thousands on legal counsel to ensure their partners never cross these lines.

The Fix: Know the exact legal language for your jurisdiction. Never guess.The Reality Check:

The difference between a struggling independent and a top-earning professional isn’t looks; it’s protocol, security, and business strategy.

helixir 54 Reviews 19 reads
posted
2 / 17

Of "Come work for an agency, because we're better resourced and experienced" in this post.

 
I will be very interested to hear what the wise women of TER have to say. QB, Paige, Claire, et al., over to you.

Elly_May 18 reads
posted
3 / 17
team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 14 reads
posted
4 / 17

The first one is kinda egregious imo. Plenty of providers start at low prices, get clientele and get their name out and "move up". There are providers who are high volume and while they're cheap they also enjoy companionship of "vip" clients.

After all, we had many discussions how it's up to the seller to set the price and it's up to a customer to evaluate and criticize it. But now setting a lower price makes a seller desperate and attracts more dangerous people?

 
May I advise, for anyone reading this thread, to minimize hivemind style of thinking propagated by Llms, and think for themselves.

Babylongirls See Agency Profile 15 reads
posted
5 / 17

well its my personal opinion you dont have to agree with it.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 16 reads
posted
6 / 17

I'm not going to go, so low that I loose my value. I have offered a discounted rate for the last few weeks & I just raised them again because I do not want to cheat myself. I am seeing one lucky soul today who took advantage of my generosity and paid in full at the time of booking. Being desperate in this industry is always a recipe for disaster.

Vetting is a must. I do not rely on references from providers I don't know personally, nor do I trust p411, or RS2K to screen for my safety. Those verification sites do not do criminal background checks, but I do.  The best advice ever is do you. Do what makes you feel comfortable.

I prefer to get paid in full at time of booking. I feel more relaxed when everything is settled before the date. I think it allows the time shared to flow more organically. After over twenty years building my brand and having an impeccable reputation I think I am worth the price of admission. Especially, after reading all the flakes who don't respect your time, money or energy. I am reliable, punctual and honest. I know how to communicate well.  

I don't want to cater to lots of people. Energy exchange is real. Chemistry & compatibility is essential for me personally. The goal is to make friends for life. I have lifelong friends here on TER. This is a phenomenal community. I feel fortuitous to be apart of TER for, so many years.

hehitshewins 21 reads
posted
7 / 17

Some of this is what I call projecting and not necessarily advice that applies to everyone's circumstance. It's what works for this agency's  business, but what works for one, may not work for another.

 
Pricing can depend on many factors. Someone with established clients, model looks, amazing reviews, great service, and a large menu is in a position to charge a premium. If they have other means of income, like an OnlyFans, they can charge even more. If the desire is to keep it low volume, they don't need a lot of business to meet their goals. Someone who is newer to the business, does not have established clients, more average looks, no reviews, and a more limited menu may feel the exact opposite. They charge less because they need to grow their client list and need to put food on the table while doing so. And, there is everything in between.  

 
And, there are agencies like k-girls. They thrive off lower prices and high volume. First, they employ a lot of ladies in some big cities. They rarely use real pictures. A number of their ladies don't speak great English. And, there are other hiccups. But at their price, many are willing to navigate the hurdles, and many are very satisfied. If they decided to charge similar rates to the rest of the field, they would struggle getting the volume they desire.

 
I mostly agree with being professional in communication. But I don't necessarily agree with treating it as a business transaction, even though that may be what it is. The most successful escorts know it's more than just business. This is something highly personal. You don't want to seem too mechanical or scripted. Your best bet is finding a blend of business and personal in how you communicate.

 
I would replace Rigid Screening with Good Screening. Rigid sounds a bit heavy handed. But I agree it's important to have a screening process that keeps the provider safe. You just don't want to make it overly tough and unpleasant for the client. I have dealt with providers that have one way of screening and offer no flexibility. Meanwhile, others have a menu of options that provide them comfort and give clients choices. No need to be too rigid as long as you have found comfortable options.

 
The last two focus on the tap dancing around the laws and not getting caught. This one is hard to argue, but it leans heavy into the business and not personal relationships. And, even though I won't disagree, I also understand why some make different personal choices. Intimate relationships are created. A regular might start feeling more like a trusted friend. If a provider understands the risks and decides to share a little more, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. In the end, we're all taking risks in this business.

 
And, I strongly disagree with the closing statement. Looks can be a huge factor. To dismiss it, is to ignore why many men seek out providers. When I see a provider charging 1.5k an hour, it's almost always some hot AF model type. While looks alone is not everything, it certainly can be a major reason why a provider earns the big bucks.

ClaireLaCrosse See my TER Reviews 31 reads
posted
8 / 17

Ive been summoned! I almost missed it because I put OP on ignore. Entirely agree this reads like an ad for an agency.

brokeloser123 24 reads
posted
9 / 17

....but I am also pretty sure using codes like "BBBJ" and "Greek" will not protect you from law enforcement.  

#3 - I am very skeptical many of these women do this CIA/FBI level of screening that they claim. To really be close to 100% sure about a client would require a PI which would be very expensive and not profitable. It's still don't get why SOME (not all) providers put so much stock in references. If you want to get even more technical, a psych profile would also be needed to screen sadistic sociopaths who get off on beating women.....a truly effective screening is not practical. All that really leaves is a selfie and ID as a deterrent since psychos are not going to give that information up for obvious reasons.

Elly_May 16 reads
posted
10 / 17

You'd be amazed by the screening. But keep thinking that kiddo.

ClaireLaCrosse See my TER Reviews 39 reads
posted
11 / 17

1. Pricing - Pricing oneself slightly low to reflect newness and lack of reviews is a solid strategy for starting out. I priced myself low enough to encourage taking a gamble. I advertised those as special new-girl rates. When inquirers asked if I had reviews, I said not yet and my pricing reflected that.  

Pricing for volume, not exclusivity, is a super valid strategy. That doesn’t have to mean 50% below everyone else, but theres a lot of money in the low-mid range. New escorts who try to start out by pricing for exclusivity often end up confused and frustrated as to why they’re not making any money.

3. Screening - I’ve seen clients here say they work with agencies precisely so they don’t have to provide real world information. I accept a variety of options for screening because I understand the fear of blackmail and other opsec risks.

4. Identifiable landmarks - Famous local ones in the background can help a provider show that she’s real and local, and add personality. Obviously don’t show everyone what cross streets or even what neighborhood you live in.

5. Exact legal language - There’s no such thing in places without decriminalization. You do your best not to be low hanging fruit. But having an ad on an escort mall can be evidence in itself. Having reviews on TER carries significant exposure. The best you can do is try to avoid obvious self incrimination, screen, and don’t make yourself a nuisance.

KatieKuada See my TER Reviews 17 reads
posted
12 / 17

Claire,

 
Are you a Veteran?  

 
-K

inicky46 61 Reviews 17 reads
posted
13 / 17

1) Re Screening and agencies. In my experience it is not true that all agencies don't require real world info. Like Indies, some do, some don't.
2) Re identifiable landmarks, that's true but does not apply to pix shot in hotels. Said pix should never make it clear in exactly which hotel the photo was shot. That's bait for LE.

MaggieLinn2 See my TER Reviews 20 reads
posted
14 / 17

While I agree with some of this the rest not so much. I charge a premium because I am one of the few who do what I do and I am darn proud of that.  

Screening. The guy does not need to know you screened them. I don’t need a blood and urine sample from them. I need to know the guy understands I don’t take no crap to begin with. It’s their loss not mine if they want to miss out on one of the very few real Nuru’s providers in this country.  

Oversharing yes I agree with it is dangerous for ladies and I see many newbies doing it. Using work info for checking into hotels puts u and the clients at risk. I sure don’t want to be the one in the room when the hotel calls the police because they looked up the ladies phone number and found her ads! Keep it separate to protect yourself and those who see u. This service is not just about protecting your identity it’s about keeping your clients safe as well. Same thing with wearing condoms. This is to keep your other clients safe not just yourself! Unsafe practices spread fast in this line of service.  

Pricing too low ? I know two ladies who are not with us because of it. I also know one in jail because she used to just use that to rob her clients and it finally caught up with her. It goes both ways. You get to what you pay for. And burn out is a real thing as well. Also chances of getting arrested go higher as well. Most hotels don’t care if you are an escort but they do care if you have a 20 guys in and out of your room and other guests notice. The hotels have a reputation to uphold as well. They don’t want to be labeled either .  

Do I think agencies are better. That really depends on the lady to be honest some people are just not good at managing themselves and they goes any job.  

Do I think this needs to be a “business transaction”  yes and no. We are providing a service and most guys want someone who is discreet and has their best interests in mind. But then there are those ones who tend to be reckless and loose and not professional. I think it says a lot for both the guy and the woman who act like this. While we all want to feel loved and like we are not paying for a service in the end this is the oldest profession in the world for a reason. We ladies are here to fill a need because your significant other is probably not and you probably are not leaving them either so why make this more than what it can and will be….a service. I don’t like to mislead guys either like making them think I am in love with them or that it is ok to fall for me etc. Truth in advertising is what it boils down to. We are a fantasy and here to fulfill your fantasy.

KatieKuada See my TER Reviews 19 reads
posted
15 / 17

Maggie,

 
You're crazy!!! You're gorgeous, and you know it. I'm gonna use my name and not my alias, because is this one of those attempts to get us all to say how gorgeous you are? I'm not active, so I can do it...  

 
But you can charge top dollar because you actually provide a service you are licensed to provide. I considered filing a problem report and telling TER that I do not provide massages. I'll give pussy and head all day, but a massage is actual labor. In my humble opinion, you should charge more. You charge little because of your location, even though you could charge more. And I bet your clients know that too.  

 
You really should charge more because you don't see a lot of clients in a day, so in order to make your day worth it. And you need to charge more, and I'm sure the hobbyists don't let me hear that...  

 
Same with another person here... People like that she may see 1-2x/day instead of 8-10-12. Well, you should PAY for that. But that's my .02.

 
Love you,
K

brokeloser123 18 reads
posted
16 / 17

curious….and this is for anyone that wants to answer

but have you felt that you were being profiled by hotel staff upon checking in - single attractive woman traveling alone - coild she be an escort? are there going to be guys in an out all day and night?  maybe they give a warning to security, “watch the blonde in 323”

misogyny is still rampant and someone may think at the front deak,  “why is this hottie alone? she can’t be traveling for business or on a vacation alone without a partner or a gaggle of friends!”

paigesavage See my TER Reviews 24 reads
posted
17 / 17

I'll be honest, I almost didn't reply to this one. Not because I didn't have thoughts, but because I was very aware of how it might land. Like I think "I'm all that and a bag of chips", which I promise is not the vibe I'm going for. Claire and a few others hit on things really well and I didn't want to pile on for the sake of it. But I came back and reread the thread and felt like there were some things still worth saying. So, buckle up buttercups... because here we are.

 
Before anything else, I'm going to call out the cultural context because it hasn't come up. This agency appears to be UK based which means the advice and outlook is coming from a completely different perspective where the rules, regulations, and law are drastically different. Obviously, some of the advice is above board for everyone but some of it doesn't translate cleanly to a market, like the US, where this is still criminalized. As a dual citizen, one of the things I find both endearing and occasionally maddening about us Americans is how thoroughly we assume everything is about us and for us. The commercial sex industry is different everywhere so we just need to sometimes do our due diligence. When it comes to advice, take what sticks and toss what doesn't.  

 
Alright, so let's talk about pricing. Agencies aren't a monolith. There are agencies that undercut the independent market by 50% and agencies with a baseline rate of $2K for the first hour. The idea that an agency = premium and independent = desperate is not accurate. What IS totally accurate is the science to pricing when starting out. More often than not, the most successful model is to price for volume to build clientele and allow yourself the ability to say no without worry and THEN you raise rates. Every time you raise, you understand you may lose 20-25% of your existing clients and you have to replace them. Rinse and repeat. At some point you reach a ceiling and that may be due to your availability, location, economy, ect. Then you have to decide how to either break through that ceiling or maintain it. That's just business. It applies here exactly like it applies everywhere else.

 
With respect to professional communication... yes, broadly... hard agree. But communication evolves and context matters enormously. The way I communicate with a first time inquiry is completely different from how I communicate with someone I've been seeing for three to five years. With a new inquiry, I'll let bits of my humor come through but it's calibrated. I'm not going to use dry wit and/or playful snark with someone who cannot understand my tone via the written word. With a longtime regular we have know one another's types of humor, we have a shorthand, and inside jokes that took years to build. Treating every interaction identically regardless of relationship depth feels more like a robot. You can be professional and still personable.  

 
On personal/professional life staying private, I'll give you 85%. There are things that absolutely need to stay private. I believe if you have children they don't belong on your timeline. I don't think you should post photos of your family or friends without their explicit permission. I believe that if people are in the background of your photos, you should blur their faces. I don't think anyone should post where they are in real time. I have more boomer like complaints (but really, I do have actual boomer like complaints lol). But I genuinely push back on the idea that sharing nothing personal is the answer. I had a tweet go viral because I talked about how sex work gave me the number one luxury which is time. When I worked in Corporate America I had to request time off, hope it got approved, jump through every hoop just to go sit with my Dad who was going through chemotherapy and then fight about FMLA when he died. But because of this work, when my brother was going through chemotherapy, I could just go. I could text clients and tell them what's up and work with them or send deposits back. That post resonated with thousands of people because it was real. Humanizing yourself isn't always a security risk because it reminds people we have things going on too and it builds client relationships that last years.

 
On to the legal language... I'm going to say this bluntly because we're on TER and the irony is beyond hard to ignore. These reviews can be used in a court of law. They have been used in divorce proceedings, custody proceedings, and internal employment disputes. I have personally watched a colleague delist because her reviews were going to be introduced as evidence in a custody proceeding. The idea that carefully worded ads are your legal shield when profiles here have lists of services that the public can see, they just cannot see the actual answer of "Yes" or "No" or "YMMV".  All you can really do is screen, keep your head down, and not make yourself low hanging fruit.

 
Which brings me to screening. The argument someone made that truly effective screening would require a PI and a psych profile fundamentally misunderstands what screening is actually for. Screening has never been about certainty, it's about MITIGATION. Really, I like to think there are two goals. First, accountability because when someone has provided verifiable identifying information, the risk calculus for bad behavior changes dramatically. Second, filtration because people unwilling to be identified self select out before you ever meet them. And that's screening working exactly as intended.

 
Someone brought up hotel profiling question. And yes, it's real. One thing that has worked surprisingly well for me is that I still have my engagement ring and I wear it when I travel. People are significantly less likely to give a second look to a woman who appears to be married or engaged. If they decide to pay attention, they assume you're having an affair and mind their own business. Which, frankly, exactly as it should be.

 
Finally, I want to gently pushback on Maggie's closer. I have enormous respect for Maggie, the business she's built, her longevity, and she's not wrong for her business. But "we are a fantasy here to fulfill your fantasy" describes one model, not all of them. The GFE model at a certain level is about creating conditions where something genuine actually can happen like real conversations, curiosity, connection, even within the container of what this is. I don't think it's misleading anyone but it's just a different model. And for the clients it's built for, it's exactly what they came for. I digress.  

 
TLDR: The difference between struggling and thriving in this industry isn't just protocol and business strategy. It's knowing which advice actually applies to your situation and which advice was written for someone else's business model entirely.

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