It’s interesting to me that inflation, at least at the moment is impacting everything I experience in normal life.  Restaurants are charging more, car dealerships are charging more, gas is up, home supplies including lumber are up, and so too are provider fees.

What’s really interesting for me personally is that there are a number of providers I have seen in years past that I continue to see periodically that are on the higher side of pricing.  By that I mean between 600 to 1K per hour.  They are beautiful, classy, personable, and have mad skills.  And yet their price points remained the same.  At price points below 500 per hour, I have seen crazy increases.  Women who were rather plain and had performance scores of 7 with maybe an occasional 8 and were asking 300 are now wanting 4 or 5 Benjamin’s and let’s face it, looks have not improved and neither have skills or performance.  I don’t know if this is temporary or permanent, but I’m not going to pay those fees.  I’d rather hobby with ladies who truly take care of themselves and give great performance and see them a few times a year and the rest of the time take cold showers.

The corollary is that people who bought a new car 2 years ago can sell their used car today for more than they paid for it.  I don’t think that will last more than a few more months before the laws of supply and demand reassert themselves.

I would rather take the $200 average price for a one hour session and just go to a bar and buy some.drinks  and pick up  a woman. One out of three is so happy to get the attention and they come home and spend the night.  The sex is better and they end up coming back and I know some of them just like getting free drinks and food and like the sex.  It's just got worth spending silly money on an average sex worker.  I even met one on  tinder and met her at a bar and she revealed she was fire hire and I was shocked.  I ended up talking up a storm with the bartender who was much younger and more attractive and ended up giving her a ride home when she closed the bar  and got a pleasant thank you bj.  She liked my honesty when I told her what happened on my tinder date and that I was so turned off by a prostitute. Just thought I would share my observations.

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sounds like you're cheap and like fucking drunk women.

OTOH, if your local average is only $200, I hate to see what they look like, and a drunken bar slut might be better.

and stalkers, I have found bar pickups for one-night stands a lot more difficult to score than 30-40 years ago.  Women are just more prudent about taking risks.  It might be easier in small towns where people tend to be friendlier and more trusting, but in the larger cities, its a lot of work to get a woman to go home with you.  Suggesting a hotel is a little easier, but still a tough sell.  Of course, I was younger 30-40 years ago, too.  Do you think that matters?  LOL

 
Sex workers know how to screen, so you make your appointment, and its a sure thing.  The atmosphere is a lot more chill and no awkwardness to speak of.  I'll take sex workers any day for sex on short notice.  Civvie women have become too complicated.  There are always exceptions, but you still have to find them.  

Great points--it's unfortunate provider rates are rising but there are so many complications with "civvie" women these days that the advantages of a drama-free hookup with great sex (especially if you're an established client) are still worth it.

if it were that easy to pick a chic at the bar, I wouldn't be here.. What you are suggesting is not only incredibly difficult to achieve in today's world, but quite honestly also dangerous. And why would I want to invite an unknown person in my house anyway?    

 
The only place where I found it super easy and they actually come to you is Las Vegas. And most of them are working girls - more specifically known as casino girls.  

 
And not all of us spend "silly" money on mongering as you suggested. Whatever the definition of that is...  Some of us are pretty organized with the finances and have allocated a line item in a household budget towards this hobby.  No different that cable, groceries, gas, etc.  

 
So yeah.. You are full of it..  And BTW, you are on hooker/john website.. So if I were you, I'd get the fuck outta here !

that will bring the rates down is if the hobby is legal  Bring in the big money, and you will see rates plummet.

I have no problem finding great girls that give top notch service.

If I want to see the hottest looking girls I just go to a strip club and eye-fuck 10 hotties.  That costs less than 300 and goes well over an hour...two...three...maybe four hours before the beer puts me to sleep.

Pot was legalized and now it costs more than ever. If prostitution is legalized, but highly taxed and regulated it might have the opposite effect on rates.

The whole idea of making Uncle Sam our collective pimp is not a smart one. So that's definitely not what I am talking about when I say legalize it.  

 
Alcohol used to cost a fortune to buy during prohibition. Eventually they figured out.. Prostitution shouldn't be different.  

 
Just make exchange of money for sex legal, and have common sense regulation around it. For e.g. have prostitutes of legal age register with county, and have them carry a card. Testing every 3 months or so. That's it.. Definitely not the Nevada model of over regulation.  OK maybe advertising on the street corner where your kids go to school might not be a good idea. But that's it.  No more taxes than what an individual or business would pay otherwise.  There are enough laws on the books to catch criminals.  

 
You are right about pot.. I read a lot about the legal pot when Nevada legalized it. And one of the reasons why legal weed is so expensive is because of high taxes, over regulation, and very high barriers to entry. That is why currently there are two parallel pot industries.  At some point, hopefully, they merge into one..

There would be storefront, fully legal, fully regulated brothels charging 1,000 hr for a very sterile, non GFE experience and then there would still be the very same hookers we enjoy today, pretty much running their businesses the same way they are running them today, just like there are still pot dealers who undercut the state sponsored stores by as much as 50%

Picking up chicks is hard for 80% of guys, and easy for 20% cuz they're the ones chicks throw themselves at.

of a joke, but I dare not say it here because there are so many here that think humor has no place on this board, or on this site, for that matter.

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"I'll keep an eye out for you."  Wood-eye is a good one, too.    

I see strippers for 2 to 3 hundred in the VIP room and outside of the club. Like you I've been doing this for 10 years.

Nevada Brothel regulations nation wide?  YUK!  Legal yes, regulated, no.

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That's not true. I still see a number of really nice ladies who have hourly rates of 300.

if you hard enough find one who let go cheap. Either horny or just some little cash. I hate walking into a incall with $150 only to rob or given bad service. I however after GFE so If want to relax and have good time for $80.00 she will.

Just what is being offered that justifies those higher prices? What can or will you do that can't be had for $300.00? And, I can get 2 hours for that amount! Also, these are legit providers I am talking about!

And where can we find these attractive women who will give a quality two hours for $300?

I hope you are permanently on antibiotics.

I thought he was saying 2 hrs for the 500 bills.

Nope just shop around, there some that will do for a few days thrill but call them a year later she still need sex and with give her $40.00 in hooker roll play she want bbfs too she don't complain. But have to shop and shop and shop find a despite horny chick.  Many failed exhokers will still see the right guy cheep. I seen quit few for $80.00 and lately has gone to a $100.00. my one truck stop experience wanted $30.00 but I tip her so cost me $50.00.  

Or is going for the girls Tini passes on. Hmmmm

Reread the post, INCLUDING the subject line and it will be clear to anyone with room temperature IQ or above that when he refers to "that amount" he is most definitely talking about $300 hr. In fact $500 hr only comes up in his subject line and only in the context of $500 hr "& up"  

 
I guess it's no wonder we have so many disagreements here when people can't understand plain English.

You are right about people not reading thoroughly and that there are so many disagreements here.

However there are many statements here that are plain language, however they include statements like, "You don't understand my humor"

I am so much more difficult in my personal life & it’s probably the main reason I’ve returned to this world.  I want a sure thing, I want the screening & references & I want it known 100% I am not available to be your girlfriend!  I know I am lucky but my clients were the best.  Thank you for your comment.  It kind of opened my eyes to the way I’m feeling right now.  
Back from the dead… 🥂  
Elle

I note that he doesn’t have any reviews posted, so either his claims are total bullshit, or these “ladies” are so fat and ugly he’s embarrassed to admit he fukked them. Either way he has no credibility with me.

I wondered if it would get lost in the shuffle not replying to M. Grey! I was addressing the post to M. Grey. I guess I wasn't clear, $300.00 is for 1 hour, sometimes $280.00! So, two hours would be $5 to 6 hundred! I still want to know what justifies the higher price!

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$500 an hour is very expensive when you consider how fast that really is.  Then think about what you can do with that $.
I just saw a touring escort I like go up to $700 an hour.  Just too much.  I get all this and that but it is just not practical.  

It would seem the author of the comment disagrees with your reading.

 
I think if people people sought to give a charitable reading -- meaning looking for the most sensible interpretation and allowing for poorly phrased statements -- we might also have less disagreement.

 
I do agree that the "that" grammatically should have referred to the $300 price but that didn't make a lot of sense given where he seems to be located and from any number of other posts he's made. Sometimes "plain English" is not as plain as some would like. A bit like common sense not really being as common as that phrase would imply.

When I wrote the post, the "that" was clear to me. However, after the other posts were posted and I reread mine, I saw it wasn't clear.  

Sorry, for the confusion!  

Now, just what justifies the higher prices? LOL!

The highest I've ever gone was 500. I see ladies advertise rates of 700, 800, 1000 an hour. I ask myself  what can be so much better that 1000 is justified?

The best sessions I've ever had have been with 300/hr women. I can't ever see spending much more, and definitely never 600+.

Not uncommon for people's minds to work faster than their fingers on the keyboard.

 
Well, to your repeated question, isn't the answer obvious? Because some people are fine with paying them that and they are making the money they want. You've got two things going on here I think (well more than that but I'll just put these on the table for consideration). One is the assessed value of the service and appeal of the person by the one paying. The other is the marginal valuation they place on the costs (both monetary and the search efforts).

 
I would infer that in the case of some that stop visiting some provider once they raised their rates and while others continue seeing her that in the former case the the marginal value of the donation now exceeds the value of seeing that provider compared to some other provider at the lower rate. In the later case the marginal valuation of the donation is still lower than the value received and the marginal costs of finding an equivalent alternative at the lower price greater than the expected return to the guy.

 
It's also true many of us are just creatures of habit and don't like change and still think the price is worth the admission (and the impact of the increase on their standard of living so negligible it's not even worth trying to figure out -- it's all just lost in the budgetary noise).

Thanks for the answer! I was hoping M. Grey would answer, but I appreciate your post! You brought up a couple of good points!

Yes  
Blame the school system. We are the victims of not knowing nothing.

I am a Provider that charges $25 per 15 minute to $100.00 per hour. I am located in Mays landing, NJ.  (609) 277-5879

My rent increased two years ago by $600 with only a 60-day notice!
I had resided in this same loft for the last 8 years.   At that point  I  
couldn't even fathom  to  make  a  move,  nor could I afford to!

 
Steadily thereafter, it was a bi-annual $50-$75 raise;  indeed, even
during Covid....  
The Landlord  "loophole" was  applied  to  increase  the  gated  parking  fees.
Basically  sticking-it-to-me  from "behind",  and  not  in  a  fun  way  whatsoever!  

 
Subsequently,  increases in utilities,  gas,  groceries,  and  ad-infinitum,  amidst all  
facets of everyday expenses occurred, as you've stated in your post regarding inflation.

 
Thereafter, Covid hit and my business all but ceased!  
Additionally,  many businesses equally experienced  closures, bankruptcy, etc....

 
I wasn't eligible for unemployment benefits during Covid....zero, zilch, nada!
(Yet illegal immigrants were somehow eligible, go figure!)....  
I'm "Hispanic,  legally  from Spain",   so  indeed,  I  CAN   "go there",  with my  
aforementioned  parenthesized  comment,  whilst  still  being  very  "politically  correct"!

 
I've been a tax-paying Citizen since age 13!   How is it I was "ineligible" and somehow fell  
through said "cracks" in "The System"?!!

 
Literally only 3 Regular Clients ventured out to see me  with trepidation and fear  as  the  
rest of us.    

 
I  was  equally  fearful,  as  my  dearest  Father  passed  from  Covid  in  April  2020.
Thus  the  health  issue  personal,  prevalent,  and  forefront  in  not knowing  if  I  might  be  next!

 
Meanwhile, not only am I NOT making an income  during  Covid,  however I'm out there just like  
many  of you,  in the  dizzying   "rat  race"   of  hours-long+  lines  to  pay  $25-$30  for  the  
ever-elusive  12  pack  of  toilet  paper  (whilst  during  Non-Covid  shopping  trips  I  pay  $7),  
$50  for 24 pack/paper towels,  $20 for a 12 pack of basic bottled  water, and I've not even  
purchased "real"  groceries  (if  they're  even  to  be found on the  shelves!)

 
When my exorbitant lease basically doubled, I had to adjust my  donations to offset this  increase,  
just like many other said businesses have done.    

 
Every business owner whom did or didn't qualify for Govt.  aid,  whom I've encountered,  have all  
risen their pricing structures regardless.

 
My hairdresser got assistance, yet she raised her prices $50....
Similarly, my nail, wax, esthetician, and any other services I maintain on a monthly,  sometimes  
weekly basis, have all increased.  

 
The  0.P.  stated:
"...By that I mean between 600 to 1K per hour.  They are beautiful, classy, personable, and  
have mad skills.  And yet their price points remained the same."

 
When one is priced at a very high-level  donation  to  begin  with,  there's  really  not  much  room
for  inflation  maneuvers,  regardless  of  the  supply/demand.    
 Although,  those  whom  Hobby  at that rate,  certainly can afford  a  price  increase  if  incurred.

 
The  women  at  the  1000k/hourly  level,  obviously  are  financially  doing  just  fine,  regardless of  the
Covid.    Many  have  vast  reservoirs  of  savings,  maintain  assets,  are  perhaps  married,   affording
a  second  income  at  their  disposal....  etc.

 
In  fact,  I'd  say  they're  probably  doing  even  better,  as  most  I  would  surmise  are  "homeowners"  
whom  either  paid  cash  for  their  asset,  or  have  a  Mortgage  that  was  refinanced at the lowest  
rate in years.... thus a considerable savings  resulted.

 
Said  1000k  girls  probably own their vehicles outright, or perhaps purchased a new one in cash, as car  
dealerships were practically giving-them-away  during  Covid!
Shall I proceed?......

 
The point here is, indeed inflation has become a daily fact.
Whether one is affected or not,  depends on one's financial means  and security,  or lack thereof.

 
Why  does  it  matter  to  anyone,  if  a  Provider  raises  their  prices,  discounts  them  or  stands  
on  their  heads?
If  it's  their  "Business",  why  is  it  "your  business"?    
In  San  Diego  alone,  there's  over  15,000+  Providers  to  choose  from....  an extremely  vast
pool  to  "fish  from  as  it  were"....  (see  link  below  and  skip  the  ads)  
youtu.be/bQDMeFvWFC0

 
I  realize  0.P.  is  just  making  an  observation  for  repartee  in  this  post,  and  it's  appreciated.

 
However,  isn't  it  most  favorable   to simply  pursue  "Hobbying"  with  the  Providers/financial
budget  one  is  comfortable  with,  and  ignore  the  pricing  of  another's   business  if  it  doesn't  
personally  have  affectation?    

                                                                                                                   
 xo Angelina Jones    

And if you have indeed been a "tax paying citizen" for all these years than you most certainly were eligible for assistance during COVID.  

 
As a provider the way you would have been a "tax paying citizen" would have been to either "self employed" like many other small businesses like most contractors, or you would have formed an entity like a corporation or LLC from which you drew a salary. Either way you would have been eligible for a PPP loan, actually TWO of them that you never would have had to pay back, both draws equal to two months of the pay you have been drawing, or rather two times the monthly pay you have been "reporting". If you have been cheating the tax man and claiming $100 week in income you would only be entitled to a thousand bucks each draw from PPP, OTOH If you had been reporting $100K a year in income (the max allowed under PPP) you would have received over $20,000 on each draw from PPP.

 
Back to clients whining about providers rates, this board was created for people who patronize prostitutes as a hobby to share information about EVERYTHING related to their "hobby" the price of hookers has to be well towards the top of list of things important to whore mongers, so it's going to be discussed and as anyone who has been here more than fifteen minutes or so already knows, it's going to be discussed here OFTEN. lol

I see many ladies as they raise their prices grandfather old clients in if they like them and see them often enough. Other than that... it's a market economy at its best.  

If she's not worth it for one reason or the other she raises her prices - enough people drop out or never call her for her to drop it back to where she used to be. If she raises her rates and continues to draw the same demand then it's c'est la vie c'est la guerre