I have only been serious about this hobby for a year or so, but it seems to me that one criteria for finding escorts whose performance is extraordinary is to look for ones who DFK. It has been my experience that those ladies seem to enjoy their work much more and while they may place other limitations on what they will do, they end up at the top of the performance scale. Are there any “rules” here? What do the providers have to say? What are the hobbyists’ feelings about it?

ReFK as a criteria of performance?

While as a rule DFK has not in the past been a determining factor as to whether I decided to call a provider or not I will agree that those who did kiss are the ones who's company I enjoyed the most.  So, yes, I think you may be on to something.  I do have to add that I don't really get the "you can fuck me but you can't kiss me" thing.  I have seen a couple girls who felt that way and I still have had a good time and so I'm not saying it's right or wrong--I'm just saying I don't understand it.  But then there are many things about this hobby I don't understand.

ReFK as a criteria of performance?

I love a man who can kiss. Do you think that Providers should tell our new friends when they are using too much saliva? I told a girlfriend that I hated when I was being kissed and my partner kept pushing saliva into my mouth. She told me she loved wet sloppy kisses. She said that she loved it when her mouth and chin was all wet..So what do I know

Back in Canada the girls don't kiss. It was one of the first things that the girls taught me. No kissing. Then I met Bailey. Bailey told me that if you want passion, you kiss. Thank goodness for good "bad" girls.

You live and you learn.

I spent some time with a provider at one of my favorite places last Saturday.  She was a new provider to that establishment, was actually a very fine provider, and at that time I did feel that I enjoyed the session.  However, in retrospect, I decided that it wasn't nearly as good as others because this girl had an aversion to any service whose acronym contained the letter "K"---like DFK or LFK (or GreeK, for that matter, but that doesn't bother me at all).  I now know, for myself, that kissing to some degree is an important component of my enjoyment of a provider.  Here was a girl that, had she kissed, would be, on the TER performance scale an 8 or 9, but was merely a 6 because of this.  Just my .02

ReFK as a criteria of performance?

Old school rule apparently was kissing = love, so it was reserved for SO's. Seems rule has been changed - all for the better! I am certain that there are exceptions and sloppy kissers with lots of saliva could easily be one. Also, someone with bad breath, etc. But at least for now, it will be a criteria I will look for in a provider

I just don't enjoy it much w/o the kissing. Maybe that's because my wife also hates DFK (she prefers, what she calls "sweet little pecks"). Blah. So actually, the opportunity to do some real kissing with a passionate woman is at least 50% of the reason I go to see an escort. It's not just for below-the-waist entertainment.

I have to agree with Z. I get turned on the most by passionate kissing which to me has to be a prelude to any other activity. I hate when the girl thinks she has to go down first to get a guy turned on. Not me.

I had the most enjoyable time today with one of my favorite AMP girls. We had finished with the main course when she asked me if I wanted to kiss some more. HELL YES! We layed together kissing and stroking each other for quite a while. I almost forgot I was at an AMP.

ReFK is hugely important. It's how you can tell whether she's real or not. EOM

In response to DFK is hugely important. It is how you can determine whether the experience is a real fantasy or just a service.

The truth of the matter is, the more intimate a provider is the better the experience. While screwing is certainly immense fun, and with a few of the providers I have seen, almost beyond description, passionate DFK is what typically brings emotion into play. Perhaps this is why some providers, and hobbyists for that matter, shy away from it.

ReFK is hugely important. It's how you can tell whether she's real or not. EOM

Without Dfk it is not a gfe date I always kiss and as for bad breath I always carry mints take one my self and offer one to my date so it is more pleasent for both of us

I know exactly what you mean. I also have a favorite AMP girl who is all about the kissing. She does everything else great. Love every move she makes. But the kissing is the best, and if I get 45 minutes or an hour, we always make sure we leave 5-10 minutes to just lay in each other's arms and make out like school kids. It's the best.

Frankly, as long as she's working, I'll probably stop seeing other girls because they just don't stack up. Except, maybe, to get a 3some with my favorite and another for Christmas.

I was under the impression that all one gets at an AMP was a massage and a handjob. You mean you get more? Is DFK part of the menu in general, or is it the exception to the rule? Where are these AMPs? Thanks

ReFK as a criteria of performance?

It is ridicuous when there is no kissing on the mouth at all but she will take your dick in her mouth bareback.

I must admit, what first got my attention on TER was the ability to find a provider who would kiss.  I spent a lot of time growing up at first and second base with my girl friends.  I learned early on, skipping the kissing and feeling her up stage, to jump right to the main event was not near as much fun.

So for me, to be able to go back and spend a lot of time DFK and exploring every inch of her body is a huge turn-on for me.

I think it is important to communicate the desire to make out early on and not rush.  Providers can't read our minds and in their desire to please, sometimes move right to BBBJ to get us to relax.  

Yes, sometimes I skip a base, we all do.  I love it when my SO asks for a "quickie" - so don't get me wrong.  But in my book, mind blowing, call up Guinness Records followed by a trip to the jewelry store time is running all the bases and spending a lot of time DFK before and after.

And finally, whoever said guys don't like to cuddle afterwards is just sleeping with the wrong guys!

Fitguy

"And finally, whoever said guys don't like to cuddle afterwards is just sleeping with the wrong guys!"

Damn straight!!

-Hoot.

I often prefer kissing over sex (Maybe I am freak, whatever.)  Further, I have an ATF that doesn't DFK for medical reasons.  She gets throat infections too easily.  However, she does so much for me in other ways (such a dirty girl!) that I accept this limitation and short of her retiring or my being in a committed relationship, I couldn't imagine not seeing her.

-Hoot.

I see from your reviews you're on the East coast. Too bad. Gotta cum out West to find the best! HJ - LOL! Well, that too is available I guess.

Seriously, I have found several AMP girls that could be top notch escorts if they wanted. DFK at an AMP may be less common than with escorts but it is getting easier to find. I was with a new girl at my ATF AMP not too long ago and she didn't seem to offer kissing. Once I made the move she said, "Oh I see you like to kiss" and proceeded to DFK with me and was very good at it. I almost never ask first and I think timing can be important. First time with a girl is usually not the best time to try but sometimes does work as I mentioned. My current favorite AMP girl didn't kiss the first time I saw her but ever since then it has been DFK/GFE with her.

Chemistry between you and the girl probably has more to do with whether an AMP girl will kiss than it does with an escort. I think most escorts these days feel like kissing is the new standard for GFE. AMP girls aren't necessarily playing by the same rules.

The overwhelming nature of the responses to Eagle's initial post is impressive.  I applaud the few providers who responded and hope that many more of them have read the posts here.

Frankly, that pisses the f**k out of me, paying big $$ to a woman who won't kiss me, and lately, in NY, that is all I have encountered. To me, the DFK is the ultimate turn on, and when a girl says no, I am usually ready just to pack it in and cut my losses.

I too love to talk while I hug, cuddle, kiss and explore every inch of a woman's body, but when she says no kissing, to me, it makes the session totally phony and unfulfilling.

I have often asked myself why a woman would allow a strange guy to DATY, but not to DFK. I believe if it is no to one, it should be no to the other, don't you think?

I would rather use my left hand, save $$ and not be bothered with these girls hang ups, rather than have a session w/o kissing.

JMO of course.

ReFK as a criteria of performance?

Well, I will disagree with all of you.  DFK is okay if I have a special connection with the provider, but most of the time I would prefer to pass.  I like providers for what I do not get, or do not get enough of, from girlfriends.  Since DFK is one of the first things I get, I do not need it from providers.  Of course if there is a great connection and the provider is willing, I would not turn it down.  

Frankly, few of my great experiences have involved DFK.  To each their own, I guess!