: TER General Board Discussion : I verify first, then we can talk.

ProviderVenting 2032 reads

posted 13 years ago

1 / 25

I had to ask this under an alias for obvious reasons, but please know, I am indeed an active provider here. Before anyone suggests it, I cannot ask this on the PO board because, as some of you may not know, it's not that easy to get access to that board. You have to have VIP and numerous reviews whereas I have VIP but only a few reviews.

I just wanted to know how any of you would suggest kindly letting gentleman who go on and on through email without actually setting an appointment that I just can't do that. I market myself as being very interested in getting to know my clients, and I certainly am....but during their appointment time mostly. I feel like men who want to send you a whole book and go back and forth and ask you questions about yourself for months before you see them are taking advantage of my time. At the same I don't want to discount some clients who would be good but are just clueless about manners in this lifestyle, I have a hard time telling between the two.
Afterall, that's what I'm offering here, my focused interest and time to those I'm with. Sure there's physical added but I am one who attempts to offer the whole package and a date experience, but I think sometimes this attracts people who don't know where the line in hobbying is and think I'm a bitch if I don't just do this for whatever people can offer me or want to hang out with every guy OTC.
Sure, I enjoy this lifestyle and my choices in it, but if I were to be able to only see men more attractive to me and closer to my age for the same amount, of course I would. Maybe I don't truly enjoy this as much as men would like to think but it does have a lot to do with compensation. I mean this is my livelihood.

Do you men out there who go for the GFE and whole package girl understand that all this individual attention can't be paid to someone who may see you once or twice a year? You can get to know one another and make a connection all that, but mostly while you're paying for it. I don't want to take away from the genuineness I have to offer but sometimes it's just annoying as hell! lol

dantananot 12 Reviews 946 reads

posted 13 years ago

2 / 25

fyi, there are providers who answer NO emails unless rent is due.

you can be clean, polite, and ready to wire them session money in advance and they wouldn't know it. I'll bet they still get business.

Answer time wasters with short responses, then not at all.

DJ1985 21 Reviews 827 reads

posted 13 years ago

3 / 25

Keep it short

Put and educational paragraph on the etiquette page of your website, if they get to wordy refer them to it. Keep your responces nice but short and to the point. If you reply to a book with a book, you will get another book long email.

dontknowanymore 4 Reviews 766 reads

posted 13 years ago

4 / 25

As a dude...

...that doesn't schedule many dates, I am sensitive to this from my side. I only communicate with a couple providers in my geography or areas that I travel to for business/pleasure. And mostly because they are on my list...otherwise...I'd leave them completely alone for the very reasons you highlight...I don't want to waste their time.

However, there is another side to this, I don't want to give them "buying signals" if I'm not interested in buying. I learned this a bit the hard way and had to basically cut someone off b/c it almost got out of hand in the pm's. There were a series of local board interactions questioning why I said this or said that and it was all very droll-junior-high-stuff that I didn't come here to experience.

As a provider...I say you have to prioritize. Spend time communicating with your repeating clients first, one-timers that might repeat next, potential clients after that, and cut out the riff raff and don't even reply to them. Squeeze in the out-of-towners if you tour or those you expect to come to you occasionally where ever makes sense. Overtime, the riff raff will likely become more obvious to you and I'm sure some of the experienced ladies here will be able to give you tips on how to sort them out of the crowd of potential first-timers.

Most gents understand this is your business and will respect application of good business principles. If I were one of your oft repeating clients...i'd be pissed if you were wasting time on the time-wasters rather than coaxing more money out of my pocket

So, don't feel bad about ignoring those dudes. they more than likely aren't going to be your "big accounts" anyway.

-- Modified on 6/17/2013 6:02:02 PM

ProviderVenting 899 reads

posted 13 years ago

5 / 25

Re: fyi, there are providers who answer NO emails unless rent is due.

That's true, but I do think some men think women get way more business than they do. I know for a fact that regulars of mine have thought I'm super busy before and in reality, I've seen like one client in a week. It seems like there's unlimited men to see, but there are not unlimited good men to see.

I just can't seem to easily tell between those with good intentions and those who are time wasters.

Dr Who revived 1047 reads

posted 13 years ago

6 / 25

The amount of really lonely johns is staggering

I've heard that complaint from many hookers over the years. And I know of some johns that think its OK to have a hooker as a pen pal.

My suggestion to both is pay for the time. The johns say 'are you kidding' and the hookers say 'I can't ask to get paid to just answer emails'

Since you're a hooker..tell time waster johnnie boy you need 200 to email for the month...or buy an hour of my time. He'll either go on to another hooker to spam or cough up some money.

Winner either way for you!

ProviderVenting 920 reads

posted 13 years ago

7 / 25

Re: As a dude...

Thanks for the thoughtful response. My website, rate and reviews usually deter the riff raff so I guess that's why I found this so vexing. I do always talk to my regulars more, but unfortunately, they don't come around often enough it seems and I still have to see new people. I appreciate that there's a man like you out there who understand not to tease, lol.

Thanks again for the response.

ProviderVenting 910 reads

posted 13 years ago

8 / 25

Re: The amount of really lonely johns is staggering

Haha funny. A little vulgar for me though, the point was to keep it classy, lol.

Thanks for the response.

dontknowanymore 4 Reviews 779 reads

posted 13 years ago

9 / 25

Re: As a dude...

my pleasure. and hopefully you're not the provider in my area that I am wasting time with

wouldn't that be irony

GaGambler 859 reads

posted 13 years ago

10 / 25

There is a time to be "classy" and times when you simply need to put your foot down

and please remember, this is a basically anonymous fuck board where we review how well prostitutes fuck and suck us, just how classy do you expect us to be? lol

You could always say, "I'd love to chat with you all day, I really enjoy it, but the bills are due and I really need to make some money, wouldn't you prefer to chat in person?" Classy enough??? lol

Dr Who revived 704 reads

posted 13 years ago

11 / 25

Vulgar...you haven't read many of my posts.

I thought that was a pretty nice way to tell time waster johnnie boy to get lost.

Trust me... If he's interested he'll buy a session...if not he'll go and waste someone else's time.

No reason to worry about hurting some time wasters feelings!

Posted By: ProviderVenting

Haha funny. A little vulgar for me though, the point was to keep it classy, lol.

Thanks for the response.

-- Modified on 6/17/2013 6:06:05 PM

Mr.Tennis 1 Reviews 674 reads

posted 13 years ago

12 / 25

Maybe limit the email exchanges to just current friends?

Might help to alleviate the problem a little bit. Are people just emailing you out of the blue without providing the usual screening info? If that's the case, I would just make a note on your site that you won't answer first contact messages without the necessary info. Of course, they could provide it and still proceed to bombard you with emails. I guess it's up to you then to weed out the ones who you think are just wasting your time from the ones who are genuinely interested in an appointment. Just do a short but cute little reply about how you'd prefer to get to know them on a more intimate level...Or something to that degree.

If it's current friends that are constantly contacting you, I would just say try to work through it as best you can. Let them know that you'll try to respond to emails, but you can't read/respond to every single one of them. For me personally, I love being able to chat with my provider of choice once in a while. The willingness to stay in touch is something I appreciate very much. I think some other clients would feel similarly to me in that regard. I also think that true friends will show their appreciation for this, be it in the form of gifts or whatever. I mean, you would get a regular girlfriend gifts, right? So I sort of agree with another poster about compensating a provider for time spent exchanging messages. That's kind of how I look at it anyway. For me, I'm limited to seeing my provider of choice primarily based on how often she comes to town. Keeping in touch with her is important to me between visits, and I will show my appreciation through a gift and an appointment whenever she comes back to town.

Also, I do remember what London said about this not being Eharmony or whatever...lol. I always try to keep that in mind. Chat once in a while through appropriate channels, but don't go overboard.

inicky46 61 Reviews 706 reads

posted 13 years ago

13 / 25

London would cut them off at the knees.

And I do get that this can be a big problem. Why not just have a stock response that goes like this.

"Thank you for your continued interest in me. However, the amount of time it takes me to reply to the many emails like this I receive has become burdensome. So I have a rule that I only engage in email relationships with gentlemen who are willing to spend a certain amount of time with me. I encourage you to book an appointment and, if we hit it off, perhaps I'll be able to spend more time chatting."

Now, please excuse me, being this nice just made me throw up in my mouth.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 662 reads

posted 13 years ago

14 / 25

I verify first, then we can talk.

Until a guy is screened, he is full of shit as far as I am concerned. You should simply say, "I am sorry, but I will be busy and unable to respond. If you want an appt. let me know, or fk off!" Ok, the "fk off" part is just something I would do, but you do what works best in your situation.

You don't owe anyone a damn thing before or after you are paid, just like clients don't owe you anything. I have guys I email, text, or pm back and forth, but it is already understood they are not booking, and I will chat when I can. For someone being a pain in the ass, just block his email.

If he is this creepy now, no telling what he will be like after he has sex with you.

tg_baby 653 reads

posted 13 years ago

15 / 25

Keep it upbeat, but keep it business...

If these are people you haven't seen before, it's strange for them to be emailing you so often. I'd personally cut them off. My rule is screening before conversing ALWAYS, no matter how innocuous the emails...when I've made exceptions, I've been very sorry and even TERRIBLY sorry twice.

If they're existing clients, sometimes some 'GFE emailing' is necessary. It's the personal touch that keeps them coming back. However, you can say something like this, 'Oh it was so nice to hear about your trip to Siberia...I can't wait to see you again, please bring your pics so I can see! When you do want to plan our next date?' Or, as another poster suggested, you can respond to their 10-pager with a brief, cute little one- or two-liner. As long as you're cheerful and upbeat, they shouldn't take offense...if they don't get it after a time or two, they're NUTS and need to be cut off.

HeathersLuv4u See my TER Reviews 820 reads

posted 13 years ago

16 / 25

what he said eom

END OF MESSAGE

MissAliceQuinn See my TER Reviews 753 reads

posted 13 years ago

17 / 25

Re: The amount of really lonely johns is staggering

Posted By: ChgoCPA

I've heard that complaint from many hookers over the years. And I know of some johns that think its OK to have a hooker as a pen pal.

My suggestion to both is pay for the time. The johns say 'are you kidding' and the hookers say 'I can't ask to get paid to just answer emails'

Since you're a hooker..tell time waster johnnie boy you need 200 to email for the month...or buy an hour of my time. He'll either go on to another hooker to spam or cough up some money.

Winner either way for you!

Hi there,

CPA has it right here.

Since "becoming Kate" slightly over a year ago I've experienced much of what you're talking about. I happen to enjoy emailing back and forth with my "friends+" but it can occasionally be overwhelming. I don't let it rule my life and I simply do not write when I'm unable to or don't want to, but I do tend to feel bad when that happens. I enjoy continuing the relationship in between via email. I have one gentleman, for instance, who only visits NYC every 6 months or so but we email in between. Thing is that he's a true gentleman and never ever pressures me to write back. I truly enjoy getting his notes and he knows it. Same with many others. I'm quite proud of being a pen pal paramour to some of the special people in my life.

I've recently noticed not one, but two different providers who offer a pen pal package or offering services as a "literary companion." I've no idea how it works but they idea is very intriguing. Why not try that? As CPA says, the gent(s) in question will either email someone else or cough up. You certainly can't complain if you are getting paid for it...

Good luck! Please pm me if you implement a package for it, I'd be interested in hearing how it works out for you.

Kiss me,

Kate

ProviderVenting 796 reads

posted 13 years ago

18 / 25

Re: Keep it short

Posted By: DJ1985

Put and educational paragraph on the etiquette page of your website, if they get to wordy refer them to it. Keep your responces nice but short and to the point. If you reply to a book with a book, you will get another book long email.

Quite right, quite right. Sometimes you just need someone else to say it to validate it.

-- Modified on 6/17/2013 8:06:09 PM

ProviderVenting 857 reads

posted 13 years ago

19 / 25

Re: Thread

Thanks everyone, great responses. I really got what I needed to hear.

escalade1964 65 Reviews 776 reads

posted 13 years ago

20 / 25

I am not easy to get a date with

I need much attention and a great deal of texts, "PM's" e-mails and phone calls before I am comfortable with a 30 minute quickie.

Dr Who revived 773 reads

posted 13 years ago

21 / 25

According to the hookers you've seen...

It takes you 30 minutes just to get your shoes off.

And then you double tip them to get them back on and shoosh you out the door.

Posted By: escalade1964

I need much attention and a great deal of texts, "PM's" e-mails and phone calls before I am comfortable with a 30 minute quickie.

Businesses 22 Reviews 802 reads

posted 13 years ago

22 / 25

What do these guys even say?

I keep my emails short and only include the necessary info (appointment date/time, screening info, contact info, requests).

Posted By: ProviderVenting

I had to ask this under an alias for obvious reasons, but please know, I am indeed an active provider here. Before anyone suggests it, I cannot ask this on the PO board because, as some of you may not know, it's not that easy to get access to that board. You have to have VIP and numerous reviews whereas I have VIP but only a few reviews.

I just wanted to know how any of you would suggest kindly letting gentleman who go on and on through email without actually setting an appointment that I just can't do that. I market myself as being very interested in getting to know my clients, and I certainly am....but during their appointment time mostly. I feel like men who want to send you a whole book and go back and forth and ask you questions about yourself for months before you see them are taking advantage of my time. At the same I don't want to discount some clients who would be good but are just clueless about manners in this lifestyle, I have a hard time telling between the two.
Afterall, that's what I'm offering here, my focused interest and time to those I'm with. Sure there's physical added but I am one who attempts to offer the whole package and a date experience, but I think sometimes this attracts people who don't know where the line in hobbying is and think I'm a bitch if I don't just do this for whatever people can offer me or want to hang out with every guy OTC.
Sure, I enjoy this lifestyle and my choices in it, but if I were to be able to only see men more attractive to me and closer to my age for the same amount, of course I would. Maybe I don't truly enjoy this as much as men would like to think but it does have a lot to do with compensation. I mean this is my livelihood.

Do you men out there who go for the GFE and whole package girl understand that all this individual attention can't be paid to someone who may see you once or twice a year? You can get to know one another and make a connection all that, but mostly while you're paying for it. I don't want to take away from the genuineness I have to offer but sometimes it's just annoying as hell! lol

bootyluvr1 4 Reviews 828 reads

posted 13 years ago

23 / 25

email

I have one lady I have emailed in the past more than I would normally but she had asked me to send her emails in between dates and even has asked me to lunch a few times OTC. But After a few unanswered emails I was smart enough to figure out not to send anymore unless booking an appointment. I will followup with a had a great time email and an occasional hope to see you soon etc. The point is that unless he is a regular you should waste very little time with these guys except maybe a first timer who is probably just nervous but I would not hold their hand to long either. Hope this helps.

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 927 reads

posted 13 years ago

24 / 25

STFU DOUCHEBAG EOM

Posted By: escalade1964

I need much attention and a great deal of texts, "PM's" e-mails and phone calls before I am comfortable with a 30 minute quickie.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 893 reads

posted 13 years ago

25 / 25

Re: What do these guys even say?

What do they say? You don't want to know. If you ever have the displeasure of peeking in a provider's inbox, you will wish you had those hours of your life back. It's redundant bs, spam from other escort sites begging for you to join, photos (which no provider should open btw, because viruses are attached), and a slew of random "Are you available" crap, that is already answered for these peons on our damn website!