And even tell them the rough content/rating of the review. Most all say Yes, then I post it. Some ask me to screen out some stuff (CIM, NQNS, etc.) because that's a YMMV occurrence. That's perfectly fair.
Some ladies just don't want too many reviews and look high volume.
Now I know I'm going to make a few friends, and probably more enemies with this post. However, I've sat back and watched this brutal witch hunt towards providers destroy lives, emotionally abuse women, and cause many problems. So before reading...please try to have an open mind. Thank you.
Over the many years I have taken part in the 'hobby', for lack of a better term...I have learned many things. About life. About people's general outlook, negative & positive. And especially about the average mans treatment of escorts.
Unfortunately, fake reviews are becoming more and more common. So are the true brutally mean ones. What has this world come to that men think it is 'okay' to deface and emotionally put down women while hiding behind an alias? Yes, you pay for her companionship. But she is HUMAN. Let me reiterate this...SHE IS A HUMAN! A woman! With emotions and feelings. Imagine if there was a review site out there that turned the tables...where the provider could write a review about you, your attitude, or your lack of physical perfection...
How would you feel?
Now granted I have had it pretty easy in the 'industry'. I don't have a family to support, and I have other sources of income. However, that is not a common case.
These 'pros', 'escorts', 'whores' that you like to call them are single mothers trying to barely get by. They are daughters trying to pay for their ailing parents in nursing homes. They are students working hard to put themselves through college. That bad review you write, simply because you didn't have chemistry with her? That just lost her thousands of dollars, possibly not allowing her to feed her family or pay her mortgage that month. What if she lost her home or her means of transportation to get her children to school?
It also causes significant more damage to her self-esteem & confidence, of which no woman ever deserves.
So next time you walk into a strip club, or knock on that hotel room door with cash in your hand and an entitlement attitude...just remember, none of these women "OWE" you anything. This hobby is a privilege, not a right. Instead of treating these women as objects, ditch the entitlement attitude and show them a bit of respect and appreciation. I bet you'd be surprised how much more of a warm welcome you receive when she opens that door...
It all comes down to a simple rule we all learned in grade school...
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
When reviews become that much of an issue. I can't fathom a greater solution, once this issue becomes a problem for a provider.
Yes you are human. Yes you have the ability to solve this on your own. No, there is no reason for this to turn into a "Reviews are necessary debate", because if they are. Take the good with the bad.
Maybe TER can implement an automated system where review submissions with scores out of the ordinary average need to be verified before being posted (instead of posting first and back paddling like how it is currently)
Review should be held in cue before being posted an automatic email sent to provider from TER asking for her appointment info during that month. Only TER knows this info and not shared with either party.
If provider does not furnish info in a week or so, review gets posted. This seems like a better way to reduce fake reviews. Just my two cents.
Not sure why TER chooses to award free days of VIP in exchange for a review. At one million plus reviews they've made their crowd sourcing model legitimate and too many reviews or easy ways to post them dilute from its reputation.
As for mean reviews, you can't fix stupid just like you can't fix mean.
is the fact that there are more fake positive reviews, than fake negative ones.
and that is a direct result of free VIP for reviews. It's a lot easier to get a fake positive review through the approval process than to get a fake negative, especially when there are so many women just like Tiffany who scream like a stuck pig every time some one gives them a bit of criticism. Guys who simply want free VIP don't write negative reviews about providers they have never seen, they take the path of least resistance and simply go along with the flow.
I knew it was fake from the moment I read it. The guy said I met him at the elevators and my room was filled with smoke and trash. Say what? I've never met a client at an elevator and I sure as hell have never gotten a smoking room, not to mention I always made sure it was clean before someone came over. Luckily I PM'd the guy and he admitted he couldn't remember who he saw so he picked a random provider to post a review under. He took it down without me having to say anything to TER. Besides that, I don't know how many times I've pissed someone I haven't even met yet and he threatened me with a bad review. Other providers have had similar issues. If TER had a review verification process, much like with P411 and the oks, it would weed out a lot of bad reviews. All the client would do is write a short summary of the meeting and how she would remember him without revealing details of the review and she could OK it before the review was published.
Every fake review I've received has contained high scores. In fact, the one that I wasn't able to have removed is a 9/10.
Posted By: GaGambler
is the fact that there are more fake positive reviews, than fake negative ones.
and that is a direct result of free VIP for reviews. It's a lot easier to get a fake positive review through the approval process than to get a fake negative, especially when there are so many women just like Tiffany who scream like a stuck pig every time some one gives them a bit of criticism. Guys who simply want free VIP don't write negative reviews about providers they have never seen, they take the path of least resistance and simply go along with the flow.
If a guy who actually met with you calls you fat, that's not a fake review nor is that "destroying anyone's life." Ego maybe, but not a life. The fact is, when you or any other woman signs up to be a provider in an illegal business, reviews are a part of that equation. No matter how much some women hate them, they are not going to go away.
Many women have a "No Review Policy" and even still, guys will write reviews. The guy who called you a BBW said so based only on HIS opinion, which you cannot have removed. To some guys anyone over 110 lbs is in fact a BBW, and you're not going to change their mind about that. I've been called fat at 120 lbs and old at 32... those are the breaks.
If a guy is posting personal information, trying to blackmail you with reviews to get free services or things you don't provide at all, then that's another story altogether and should be taken seriously, but guys simply being critical is nothing to cry about.
Fake reviews and critical reviews are not the same thing. If someone you claim never saw you can prove he can, then it's not a fake review and TER has a policy of making that determination. Usually, the guy must produce the confirmation email, text, etc. that gave him your location on the day of your date, and trust me... many save them now because of so many women who whine about low scores.
And do away with "baby fat." This is the stupidest body category I've ever seen and people put providers under this for having anything from having a curvy figure to being a complete apple. Dating sites have better ranges for body types.
What you spoke of is not a fake review... it's a critical one, but I agree with the overall post in general about reviews that are designed to destroy a provider's business, not her life. If a guy's rude comments in a review are destroying a person's real life, they need therapy. Unless he posted personal information about her real name, where she lives, etc. saying her ass is fat and she does not swallow, is not causing her harm in her real life, unless she was too stupid to protect her identity.
If reviews are that much of an ego problem for some providers, maybe they need to find a new line of work where performance reports/reviews cease to exist lol. Yah, good luck with that. Every job I have ever had came with a critique of my work for the year, and not all of them were glowing reviews. I had two choices... improve on what they said was lacking, or pack up my shit to work somewhere else.
I agree that guys using the review system to barter for free service, BBFS, blackmail, etc. should be banned for good, but it's not that easy to do.
to see assholes that try to barter with a favorable review. They are most likely "one & done" guys anyway and on to their next victim. I don't mention to the lady that I've seen her reviews unless she asks me. I want my session to be one about me and her, "no strings attached", well except for the envelope. lol! I almost always ask, after the session, if she minds if I write a review. I have not heard "no", yet.
And even tell them the rough content/rating of the review. Most all say Yes, then I post it. Some ask me to screen out some stuff (CIM, NQNS, etc.) because that's a YMMV occurrence. That's perfectly fair.
Some ladies just don't want too many reviews and look high volume.
I think that was the impetus behind this rant. Be honest about that. Your concern for all the other "whores" is secondary. You got your feelings hurt b/c someone thought you were plump. If TER thought it was a bogus review, they'd remove it.
Women know the deal here. Most of them benefit greatly by TER. But on any internet evaluation site, be it here or Yelp or anywhere else, the people/businesses being reviewed aren't going to like it all the time. That's the downside of any business. Get used to it.
Imho, this post makes you look whiney. Don't worry about the reviews. The guys don't look at any one review as proof positive of anything. It is the totality of the reviews that matter.
And please stop this "alias" bashing nonsense. You are using one, are you not
I think that was the impetus behind this rant. Be honest about that. Your concern for all the other "whores" is secondary. You got your feelings hurt b/c someone thought you were plump. If TER thought it was a bogus review, they'd remove it.
Women know the deal here. Most of them benefit greatly by TER. But on any internet evaluation site, be it here or Yelp or anywhere else, the people/businesses being reviewed aren't going to like it all the time. That's the downside of any business. Get used to it.
Imho, this post makes you look whiney. Don't worry about the reviews. The guys don't look at any one review as proof positive of anything. It is the totality of the reviews that matter.
And please stop this "alias" bashing nonsense. You are using one, are you not?
And one of them is for people to be able to speak freely without fear of reprisal. It's also why you don't use your real name in the biz, you use a stage name. We all have reasons and you shouldn't question others for theirs, just worry about yours.
I still stand by if you had not gotten that substandard review, you would not have started this thread. This is all about one bad review. This thread will hurt your biz far worse than any one review. Get over it. Learn form this. Move on.
I suppose I made a mistake in using my bad review as an example, and my apologies. I was not trying to attack reviews, aliases, or anyone for that matter. It was meant to shine a positive light on providers as human beings with feelings.
There was no 'read between the lines' to my post. It was not to try and defend myself. I wrote this post and posted it under my stage name knowing full well the repercussions and the damage it COULD do.
I'd like to say I wished to give it the benefit of the doubt, in hopes that it would get a positive response. Rather than the negative one that it did. I am not going to dignify the negativity and lash out, as many of you are probably expecting.
One of the first things I said was, "this hobby has been a LEARNING EXPERIENCE". I'll bet not a single one of you entered the hobby knowing everything you do about it now. Everyone's view is different.
Thank you again for your input and reading my post.
You dished out a good deal of negativity, some possibly justified, some def not. But you acknowledged you made a mistake in a few areas and I'll give you props for that.
No need beating a dead horse here. Best to you in the future.
and while you made the post under your "real" fake name, so did the guy who gave you your latest lousy review. Maybe instead of blaming the "mean" reviewers you should take an honest assessment about yourself? One bad review in a sea of good ones is overlooked by most prospective clients, having reviews all over the place is not.
As for the damage your post "could do" I believe that with the exception of Turdwell, who is still naive enough to believe everything that every escort complains about here, I don't think there is any "could" about it.
I only read your OP AFTER you had edited it, I can only imagine how I would have reacted if I had read the unabridged version.
Her two crappy ones , hey is her fat ness temporary or is she know larger than life ? You know some girls don't recovery after putting on winter tonnage ....Colorado was cold this year and she may have raided one to many miini bars ..oh well that's life ....l8r
Posted By: GaGambler
and while you made the post under your "real" fake name, so did the guy who gave you your latest lousy review. Maybe instead of blaming the "mean" reviewers you should take an honest assessment about yourself? One bad review in a sea of good ones is overlooked by most prospective clients, having reviews all over the place is not.
As for the damage your post "could do" I believe that with the exception of Turdwell, who is still naive enough to believe everything that every escort complains about here, I don't think there is any "could" about it.
I only read your OP AFTER you had edited it, I can only imagine how I would have reacted if I had read the unabridged version.
Chubby girls usually do .....do you know Jenny Craig ? Perhaps you 2 can get acquainted and your problems will melt away ...xoxo.......
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
I suppose I made a mistake in using my bad review as an example, and my apologies. I was not trying to attack reviews, aliases, or anyone for that matter. It was meant to shine a positive light on providers as human beings with feelings.
There was no 'read between the lines' to my post. It was not to try and defend myself. I wrote this post and posted it under my stage name knowing full well the repercussions and the damage it COULD do.
I'd like to say I wished to give it the benefit of the doubt, in hopes that it would get a positive response. Rather than the negative one that it did. I am not going to dignify the negativity and lash out, as many of you are probably expecting.
One of the first things I said was, "this hobby has been a LEARNING EXPERIENCE". I'll bet not a single one of you entered the hobby knowing everything you do about it now. Everyone's view is different.
Thank you again for your input and reading my post.
I've looked at his shots using the before pics compared to his artistic manipulation. If you (and I know you do) look closely it's quite easy to see how heavy a girl really is.
Nothing wrong with taking out tattoos and such...but chopping off the 30+ pounds leads to reviews like Tiffany is whining about. The truth does hurt.
Posted By: Back_In_Black
Chubby girls usually do .....do you know Jenny Craig ? Perhaps you 2 can get acquainted and your problems will melt away ...xoxo.......
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
I suppose I made a mistake in using my bad review as an example, and my apologies. I was not trying to attack reviews, aliases, or anyone for that matter. It was meant to shine a positive light on providers as human beings with feelings.
There was no 'read between the lines' to my post. It was not to try and defend myself. I wrote this post and posted it under my stage name knowing full well the repercussions and the damage it COULD do.
I'd like to say I wished to give it the benefit of the doubt, in hopes that it would get a positive response. Rather than the negative one that it did. I am not going to dignify the negativity and lash out, as many of you are probably expecting.
One of the first things I said was, "this hobby has been a LEARNING EXPERIENCE". I'll bet not a single one of you entered the hobby knowing everything you do about it now. Everyone's view is different.
Thank you again for your input and reading my post.
Any smart girl. Tries to keep it somewhat real , and yes I cross reference photos , pro , selfies and he m guys and if they are ant close I'll post that shit ! But I'm not taking chances , tiffany got called out and the reviews now are harsh but she messed up with those 2 new reviews after the next guys get burned the reviews will be worse !! Dumb ! Really DUMB !!!
Posted By: ChgoCPA
There's little that that man can't edit.
I've looked at his shots using the before pics compared to his artistic manipulation. If you (and I know you do) look closely it's quite easy to see how heavy a girl really is.
Nothing wrong with taking out tattoos and such...but chopping off the 30+ pounds leads to reviews like Tiffany is whining about. The truth does hurt.
Posted By: Back_In_Black
Chubby girls usually do .....do you know Jenny Craig ? Perhaps you 2 can get acquainted and your problems will melt away ...xoxo.......
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
I suppose I made a mistake in using my bad review as an example, and my apologies. I was not trying to attack reviews, aliases, or anyone for that matter. It was meant to shine a positive light on providers as human beings with feelings.
There was no 'read between the lines' to my post. It was not to try and defend myself. I wrote this post and posted it under my stage name knowing full well the repercussions and the damage it COULD do.
I'd like to say I wished to give it the benefit of the doubt, in hopes that it would get a positive response. Rather than the negative one that it did. I am not going to dignify the negativity and lash out, as many of you are probably expecting.
One of the first things I said was, "this hobby has been a LEARNING EXPERIENCE". I'll bet not a single one of you entered the hobby knowing everything you do about it now. Everyone's view is different.
Thank you again for your input and reading my post.
I neither inflate, nor deflate in my reviews. I try to be honest. The numbering system makes it tough to accurately gage appearance IMHO, what if a gal's body is smoking hot but her face is a little on the bad side, or she's got a pretty face but her body isn't so good? This is subjective by the person's own perceptions. I mean, my idea of a 10 might not be someone else's idea of a 10. Likewise, if a girl is average by my standards or if she has mixed good and bad physical attributes then it's a 6 or 7. I've never been with a 10 yet, but I'll know one when I see one. However, the service should be pretty simple to figure out for most guys. Did you have a horrible time, bad time, eh time, OK time, good time or great time or maybe once in a lifetime time it's pretty easy to gage your own feelings on that one. I've never trashed a provider in a review and whatever details are in the review usually explain my scoring. Yes, the providers we see are human beings. Nobody's perfect, hell, I know I'm not. In all honesty I'd probably give myself a 5 for appearance because while not morbidly obese, I'm portly and only of average height with average musculature (outside of work, I don't work out). For performance, I've been told I'm pretty good, so maybe a 7 or 8. But see, as the guy reading these reviews I look at all of the reviews and overlook the outliers. If a gal is consistently graded with 7's 8's and 9's then I'm gonna ignore the smattering of 1's thru 4's because the reviewer for some reason was just a douche or had an agenda. Likewise with girls who all of a sudden have 10's pop out of nowhere in an otherwise average career. Something is rotten in Denmark. So... In conclusion... Um... What was the question? Dammit, ADD strikes again.
But that does not mean it is inappropriate for them to frankly and directly state a reviwer's opinion. You market yourself in large part on your looks -- that's why you have pictures on your ads and website. This reviewer clearly felt deceived by those pictures (and the accuracy of your pictures has been called into question by more than one reviewer, so it seems this isn't a case of one person with unrealistic expectations). Had he not felt deceived, his review may have been more charitable. If you are uncomfortable being judged on your looks, don't use them to sell yourself, or take pains to ensure that your pictures accurately reflect your current appearance, so those who book you will find you meet their expectations.
I guarantee you that each and every single one of us has written at least one bad review in our lives....
After I left the Britney Spears show at Madison sq garden I didn't think twice when I wrote about how horrible, tacky, total lip synched, etc it was.
One has to have a thick skin to be an entertainer. Same with a restaurant/hotel owner, etc..
Please don't tell me that you have never complained about services at a hotel. Did you stop to think you could have cost that person their job? Or did you think that if you just spent $ on a hotel that you deserved better service?
Fake reviews are one thing, they are trash and belong in the trash can. Reviews not up to your liking are great. They help any business thrive. Once you learn to tell the difference between people that can't be satisfied no matter what (and please know just as you can read through those, so can others and they ignore them) and the ones that can help you improve.. It will be a lot better.
We have to remember.. What a man likes isn't the same as a woman. And within that, not all men care about the same thing. Some things that may hurt a ladies feelings aren't intended that way as a man. Read your reviews to learn what you are doing right and what you can improve, not to define your confidence.
skimmed all of your reviews. I read a few of the "outlier" reviews you have as well, including the one you mention.
A few thoughts:
HTG told you true. A "bad" review and a "fake" review are two different things. When you have 80 reviews, any 1 is not a make or break situation. Most hobbyists can spot an outlier review and ignore it in an instant. We can see when a review was written by a person with a pattern of low scores (as yours was).
However: Your review scores average 8, but range somewhat widely. Almost like there are "phases" where your scores are lower for a few clients, and then "pop" back up. Including the 3 most recent below-average scores followed immediately by a couple of higher than average scores.
Your pics look great to me. No way you are BBW or even close. So I discount some asshat who claims you are. But... are those pics recent and accurate?
I guess to sum it up... I'd ignore the outlier review written by the asshat, but might wonder a bit about consistency in your appearance and performance.
I hate professional, airbrushed pictures. It just sets the provider up for criticism. I much prefer "selfies" or at least "girl next door" photos, so that when I show up, I am not disappointed, well, at least most of the time
real to life so the criticism cannot come, at least my interpretation and for that reason I decided from day one to never get professional photos done. I don't look like a barbie doll in person, and I certainly don't want a barbie doll persona. With me, what you see is what you get. Period. But in the same breath, personal photos can still be represented in a beautiful manner if taken the time to do so...it's a helluva lot more work taking on that task but the point is...you are in control of your own domain. And that's what I like. I don't need my photos in a some photographer's hands, at least not photos from here
Everything 'in house' works for me...at least in this world.
Aldo's work is little more than folly form anyone who has looked at his work for any length of time.
I just went through nearly 100 pics with a gal who used Aldo...and there was some good work there. Then Aldo did his "magic" and distorted what otherwise would have been a very nice shoot. Fortunately this particular gal couldn't live with his nonsense and used basically untouched shots...which in her case are quite accurate depictions of who will open the door.
But too many gals let Aldo knock off so much to make them appear thin...and when that door opens up..well, Tiffany's thread says it all.
And the funny part is that if they used untouched shots they would have just as much interest as there are guys for every type of gal here.
Posted By: TaylorSteele
real to life so the criticism cannot come, at least my interpretation and for that reason I decided from day one to never get professional photos done. I don't look like a barbie doll in person, and I certainly don't want a barbie doll persona. With me, what you see is what you get. Period. But in the same breath, personal photos can still be represented in a beautiful manner if taken the time to do so...it's a helluva lot more work taking on that task but the point is...you are in control of your own domain. And that's what I like. I don't need my photos in a some photographer's hands, at least not photos from here
Everything 'in house' works for me...at least in this world.
guru myself, but I don't use it lol except to hide what will clearly and distinctly give me away. I don't think it's 'magic' and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to photoshop any photo out there, just a lil computer knowledge and 1k to buy the program or pirate it
I could show you a basic photo of me like I post regularly and a super airbrushed photoshop image like Aldo's and you'd be like HUH? WHAT? LOL...and I'd say, yep, told ya so, but no thank you. I'd look 20years younger, don't want to look thinner, and my skin would be absolutely flawless, which I have nice skin but not 'airbrushed' skin LOL.
Bottomline it's misrepresentation in this biz in my opinion no matter how glammed up or pretty they look. And they do look beautiful don't get me wrong. But we aren't cover models of Vogue selling magazines at the checkout counter. The 'models' of that world and this world are two different kinds models. If you believe those gals look like that in real life too, you are f'n kidding yourself LOL.
Could be the Aldo Antonio work. He has a way of posing (photoshopping?) the ladies to make weight go away. Lots of the pics have her hands above her head. Good way to lengthen and slim down a belly. The ones where she doesn't she mostly has clothes over her mid section. I've learned to look out for that.
I think the whole review discussion has about as much chance of being resolved as us balancing the national deficit.
Posted By: MasterZen
skimmed all of your reviews. I read a few of the "outlier" reviews you have as well, including the one you mention.
A few thoughts:
HTG told you true. A "bad" review and a "fake" review are two different things. When you have 80 reviews, any 1 is not a make or break situation. Most hobbyists can spot an outlier review and ignore it in an instant. We can see when a review was written by a person with a pattern of low scores (as yours was).
However: Your review scores average 8, but range somewhat widely. Almost like there are "phases" where your scores are lower for a few clients, and then "pop" back up. Including the 3 most recent below-average scores followed immediately by a couple of higher than average scores.
Your pics look great to me. No way you are BBW or even close. So I discount some asshat who claims you are. But... are those pics recent and accurate?
I guess to sum it up... I'd ignore the outlier review written by the asshat, but might wonder a bit about consistency in your appearance and performance.
You have periods of consistent good scores sandwiched around periods of very poor to mediocre scores. Three reviews in January, including the one you referenced in your OP, describe you being bigger than your pics.
Reading a profile like that suggests to me certain issues that result in periods of poor performance, and I would not see you based on the inconsistency that spans years of reviews.
Now, I'm not going to open the door on this thread by naming the issues that come to mind when I look at your reviews, but I think you can guess what red flags flap in the wind upon seeing them.
To be perfectly blunt, in your case, I'm very happy to have a full, honest, review profile available.
Please keep in mind that the reviews are NOT for you - they are for the guys contemplating seeing you. That's what this site is about.
Dear Madam Berkshire: Although reviews are an essential and critical element in determining if a prospective hobbyist will select a particular provider, there should be some accuracy and accountability when disclosing what transpired during the course of a session. However if a particular provider is not friendly and engaging and repulses the customer, he should say what happened and disclose what transpired in a session. This is critical because as men and hobbyist we do have a duty to make future hobbyist aware of certain quirks and personality attributes that she would have. The review itself is one of the only gauges that a potential hobbyist would have to discern whether or not he would like to have a session with a certain provider. Now once they get comfortable with others on the board they can then use the hobbyist only board to have certain discussion with other hobbyist regarding the provider in question.
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
Now I know I'm going to make a few friends, and probably more enemies with this post. However, I've sat back and watched this brutal witch hunt towards providers destroy lives, emotionally abuse women, and cause many problems. So before reading...please try to have an open mind. Thank you.
Over the many years I have taken part in the 'hobby', for lack of a better term...I have learned many things. About life. About people's general outlook, negative & positive. And especially about the average mans treatment of escorts.
Unfortunately, fake reviews are becoming more and more common. So are the true brutally mean ones. What has this world come to that men think it is 'okay' to deface and emotionally put down women while hiding behind an alias? Yes, you pay for her companionship. But she is HUMAN. Let me reiterate this...SHE IS A HUMAN! A woman! With emotions and feelings. Imagine if there was a review site out there that turned the tables...where the provider could write a review about you, your attitude, or your lack of physical perfection...
How would you feel?
Now granted I have had it pretty easy in the 'industry'. I don't have a family to support, and I have other sources of income. However, that is not a common case.
These 'pros', 'escorts', 'whores' that you like to call them are single mothers trying to barely get by. They are daughters trying to pay for their ailing parents in nursing homes. They are students working hard to put themselves through college. That bad review you write, simply because you didn't have chemistry with her? That just lost her thousands of dollars, possibly not allowing her to feed her family or pay her mortgage that month. What if she lost her home or her means of transportation to get her children to school?
It also causes significant more damage to her self-esteem & confidence, of which no woman ever deserves.
So next time you walk into a strip club, or knock on that hotel room door with cash in your hand and an entitlement attitude...just remember, none of these women "OWE" you anything. This hobby is a privilege, not a right. Instead of treating these women as objects, ditch the entitlement attitude and show them a bit of respect and appreciation. I bet you'd be surprised how much more of a warm welcome you receive when she opens that door...
It all comes down to a simple rule we all learned in grade school...
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
but you know what we chatted about. The one week I won't be here, can you believe it lol. I'm hoping to get a nice tan though and come back all dark. Have fun while you're here and I hope the weather cooperates for you.....enjoy NY and any new friends you may meet.
End of May I'll be in your neck of the woods...........already looking forward to it. And it better be warm by then lol.
you shoot up to NY when I'm gone and hit up Court and Cosette (you seem to hit it off with her and use that french accent if that's what that was lol)...you can call it the C2Z.
but you know what we chatted about. The one week I won't be here, can you believe it lol. I'm hoping to get a nice tan though and come back all dark. Have fun while you're here and I hope the weather cooperates for you.....enjoy NY and any new friends you may meet.
End of May I'll be in your neck of the woods...........already looking forward to it. And it better be warm by then lol.
I think not. I agree with RodTidwell. Chivalry is not dead. Saying you expect the same chemistry and 'rip my clothes off attraction' every time she opens the door may be realistic for some, but not for me. If someone was to walk through my door and say "I hope you're worth the money", I would tell him to take his money and leave immediately through the door he came through. I would know up front we would not have a good time because I would never live up to his expectations, no matter how hard I tried.
However I don't expect to be put on a pedestal. I do expect mutual respect and appreciation. I am very clear about that in my ads and website. I choose to spend my time with a gentleman, not a demanding hobbyist. To each their own.
Regarding the responses to my photos and appearance...no. I am not a the early 20s stick figure like I was when I first began. I have curves, and I've had experiences as a woman that have changed my body. If you've been married, or watched a woman grow, you would know this.
I have life in my years and in my body. I have no intention of hiding that.
When those 3 reviews that were posted were written, I was using old photos. That was my mistake. I saved up to work with Aldo to fix that. Crisis averted.
stated is valid. All you can do is be true to who you are now, present day...nothing more. If a gentleman doesn't want that, his loss, not yours. But at least you can hold your head high and know there was nothing shy of honesty on your part with photos etc. I personally wouldn't post photos more than a year old and shoot every 3 months if you choose to do the professional route. If you do choose to leave older photos on your site, make sure it states that they are dated, and yes, crisis averted, to use your words and keep your life simple.
I also wouldn't worry so much about reviews quite honestly...they are all speculation, whether amazing or poor and every gentleman will have his own experience with you. That's why reviews should be taken with a grain of salt...simply to verify a woman is who she says she is. Nothing more. Those who read them word for word and dissect those words, are only setting themselves up for failure unless he has the same chemistry as the guy who wrote it, which you and I both know is almost next to impossible. Every gentleman is different just like every woman, therefore every experience will take it's own path.
I don't have to have chemistry to act and perform like a 10 even if the guy is a dud, but like you, I just prefer to not deal with those types. I also don't think guys should even be allowed to lower scores because of lack of chemistry... what a crock of shit. If she looked like her photos, performed as expected or better, made you feel like a king, wtf is this chemistry shit? It's not match.com!
'opinion' or 'judgment' on this board. It can have 8.5 different meanings. I personally think chemistry is that you have a different experience with different men...not the kind of chemistry you are thinking of. That's my take of chemistry in this arena. You can't tell me all of your dates were the same with all different guys......come on, not even you can say that. If you do, I won't believe you
Attraction is different for everyone, everywhere in any world, even here, acting or not.
All I ask for is your photos are a good representation of your current looks and your service is to the best of your ability due to the circumstances at the time (johns,looks,attitude,etc.). I think scores then will truly reflect upon you as a provider.
as that is part of the whole experience. The best can create the illusion of this, even if they don't really feel it. Hell, I do this in my job every day (pretend I like people and think they are interesting).
Then, you are not accounting for true chemistry, but ACTING which is exactly what I said. Some of the guys around here need to find a dating site, vs. a hooker board.
Posted By: Jstgttnstrtd
as that is part of the whole experience. The best can create the illusion of this, even if they don't really feel it. Hell, I do this in my job every day (pretend I like people and think they are interesting).
"I am quite the pleaser, and I want your experience with me to be the most pleasurable, sensuous experience you've ever had! If you enjoy being pampered & spoiled, and you have a fiesty desire to be turned on from the moment you meet me, then I would love to hear from you!"
Now you want to add "unless there's no chemistry, in which case you may or may not have a good time for the same money!"
You've now said all you need to say for guys to take a pass. It's attitudes like yours that TER was designed, in part, to help us avoid through an honest review system. You're just proving the concept.
Yup, thank you. If there is no chemistry as she requires, then per her own words, she should 'refund the money' and there would be NO review. Sorry, but I don't buy for one second that any hooker has chemistry with every client she meets nor does she need that to pay her bills... especially if she charges by the damn hour. Well, maybe Cosette is the exception lol. I would have been broke if I had to have chemistry with every fat, old, saggy man that walked through my door when I was a hooker, and they came in that way at 300 to 5k, so charging more won't make them hotter... just easier to deal with lol.
Okay so I'm FAT know but a fucking 4 ??????? Ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, you guys have to be drunk I think not , a few to get loose but drunk ????damn this is a tough crowd ! And I thought you guys liked high school photos the 80s were cool !
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
I think not. I agree with RodTidwell. Chivalry is not dead. Saying you expect the same chemistry and 'rip my clothes off attraction' every time she opens the door may be realistic for some, but not for me. If someone was to walk through my door and say "I hope you're worth the money", I would tell him to take his money and leave immediately through the door he came through. I would know up front we would not have a good time because I would never live up to his expectations, no matter how hard I tried.
However I don't expect to be put on a pedestal. I do expect mutual respect and appreciation. I am very clear about that in my ads and website. I choose to spend my time with a gentleman, not a demanding hobbyist. To each their own.
Regarding the responses to my photos and appearance...no. I am not a the early 20s stick figure like I was when I first began. I have curves, and I've had experiences as a woman that have changed my body. If you've been married, or watched a woman grow, you would know this.
I have life in my years and in my body. I have no intention of hiding that.
When those 3 reviews that were posted were written, I was using old photos. That was my mistake. I saved up to work with Aldo to fix that. Crisis averted.
I didn't read any responses yet as I wanted to give a generic, fresh response (with an open mind). Please have an open mind as well and see it for what it is. But if you want to know what I really think, or if you don't, lol, here's what I think.
I think what you're trying to say can be read between the lines, but all background hasn't been included so I'll respond based on the words on the screen.
Of course being a gentleman and not ripping a lady to shreds, especially when he knows she tried her best and tried to advertise as accurately as possible is important.
Regarding the average man's treatment of escorts, the negatives can be avoided through screening; however, I've met men through all screening levels, and all rates, (From $100 for 6 hours to $400 for 1 hour.) I've come across very few assholes.
Unfortunately, fake advertisement is common just like fake reviews. Brutally mean ladies are just as common as brutally mean reviews. (I don't want a mean review btw, have mercy!) Most ladies and gents I've come across are extremely generous with their knowledge, help, and finances. I'm blessed to know you all. But I do see reviews and treatment from and towards providers and hobbyists that are pretty sad and hurtful to see. But that's everywhere, not just here.
Men are also reviewed in the background, blacklisted for dumb reasons - with their real names blasted on the internet for anyone to google. I totally agree with being tactful in reviews about a lady's looks and performance. I don't agree with being dishonest. We all have our bad days, just like anyone in any job, and the paying customer suffers the consequences. They should have a say.
There are single mothers, people with families to support, and businesses to fund and keep open in every business. Part of owning a business is being exposed to public scrutiny - as is being a pop star. A pop star goes nuts, you bet the whole world will know. An escort tells another escort a deep secret, better know all other escorts and mutual clients will hear the secret if escort #1 pisses off escort #2.
The world is full of people trying to survive and make the most of their money. Remember, guys are forking over serious bucks per hour with us. We do 'owe' the guys (or gals) something for the big bucks they pay. We owe what we advertise - Otherwise it would be bait & switch.
I screwed up a weekend that was requested last minute and no review was written about it, but I'm sure there was back channeling. I know why I screwed it up - I should have not taken the last minute appointment, nor should I have continued on with the appointment when I found he wasn't attracted and I was only there as a 'bucket list check-off'. And when I was sent out to walk around the city all day while he was away. I could not be the 'Courtney' I advertise, and I could have learned from an honest review. I went wrong in not going by my ample notice rule for longer excursions, requiring a hotel room to stay in during the day while he was away, and frankly should have left when I noticed the side - insulting comments that were affecting my performance. I should have run my business differently that time.
We can learn from anything.
Don't sweat it. Just know how to bounce back, improve, or let it pass.
My main career is in an industry where appearances are extremely important. People come to me because their self esteem is beat down, or they've been bullied or picked on. THAT is where the inspiration for this post came from. NOT from my reviews. Just to make it clear.
But I couldn't respond based on assumptions. I hope (if anyone reads my long-ass post,) it helps people read reviews more constructively. The main point I would hope people would get is…
- Most people who review a business are under satisfied and over satisfied customers. The majority of the ones who talk behind closed doors to the most amount of people are the under satisfied customers. Back channeling probably hurts us more than bad reviews.
while yes, I agree with you to some degree about 'appearances' that there are flavors for everyone in all shapes, sizes and colors, but you lost me on the self esteem, bully part. Not sure I understand where that comes from unless you were saying because a gentleman who wrote a review was bullied and took it out on your review, then that's a whole other topic. Then yes, this thread took a different turn. Sorry, I'm one for scanning everyone else's posts but the OP's. I did read all of yours, but I didn't get that for some reason. I apologize.
In my opinion, men are here because something is lacking in their lives, whether it be the physical, emotional or spiritual and I can guarantee in most cases, it's so much more than the physical than you could ever imagine. But no one likes to talk about that part of this world...that's the stuff that stays behind closed doors. Whether he was bullied or self esteem was so low that he took it out on a review then should be brought up to TER imo. That's not right and foul play. That's like giving a gentleman an Okay on P411 when truthfully he didn't deserve it. Speculation.
Given what I now know about you...you are a bold faced liar!
Your main career....what a joke. You are stuck in this world and are pissed that some dudes called you out for being overweight based on YOUR pictures.
Offer still stands...care to follow through or make more lame attempts at the fine art of bullshit? BTW...you suck at that fine art of bullshit...based on the photoshopped pics and your lame behind the scenes bullshit.
Good news...you still have RodT buying your crap. Hope that helps LOL
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
Once again, I wasn't here to defend myself.
My main career is in an industry where appearances are extremely important. People come to me because their self esteem is beat down, or they've been bullied or picked on. THAT is where the inspiration for this post came from. NOT from my reviews. Just to make it clear.
What motivation would someone have to write a fake review? Am I naive here? Are there people who just randomly pick a provider and say I'm going to write a fake review? Or are fake reviewers just like these fools that write computer virus', who want to be destructive, just to be destructive? I am perplexed.
Are all over the place , you finally got called out and ..........what ?? Poor you ? If you were more honest this wouldn't have happened so its your fault the guy wanted the hot young girls not her mom ! Sorry but if you wanted George clooney and got George Jefferson would you be happy ????? Oh maybe you would , you India resemble weezie !
Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
Now I know I'm going to make a few friends, and probably more enemies with this post. However, I've sat back and watched this brutal witch hunt towards providers destroy lives, emotionally abuse women, and cause many problems. So before reading...please try to have an open mind. Thank you.
Over the many years I have taken part in the 'hobby', for lack of a better term...I have learned many things. About life. About people's general outlook, negative & positive. And especially about the average mans treatment of escorts.
Unfortunately, fake reviews are becoming more and more common. So are the true brutally mean ones. What has this world come to that men think it is 'okay' to deface and emotionally put down women while hiding behind an alias? Yes, you pay for her companionship. But she is HUMAN. Let me reiterate this...SHE IS A HUMAN! A woman! With emotions and feelings. Imagine if there was a review site out there that turned the tables...where the provider could write a review about you, your attitude, or your lack of physical perfection...
How would you feel?
Now granted I have had it pretty easy in the 'industry'. I don't have a family to support, and I have other sources of income. However, that is not a common case.
These 'pros', 'escorts', 'whores' that you like to call them are single mothers trying to barely get by. They are daughters trying to pay for their ailing parents in nursing homes. They are students working hard to put themselves through college. That bad review you write, simply because you didn't have chemistry with her? That just lost her thousands of dollars, possibly not allowing her to feed her family or pay her mortgage that month. What if she lost her home or her means of transportation to get her children to school?
It also causes significant more damage to her self-esteem & confidence, of which no woman ever deserves.
So next time you walk into a strip club, or knock on that hotel room door with cash in your hand and an entitlement attitude...just remember, none of these women "OWE" you anything. This hobby is a privilege, not a right. Instead of treating these women as objects, ditch the entitlement attitude and show them a bit of respect and appreciation. I bet you'd be surprised how much more of a warm welcome you receive when she opens that door...
It all comes down to a simple rule we all learned in grade school...
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
About how some girls try to get an edge on other ladies by using fake or false photos .....then they discount themselves when the guy bitches a bit , he throws a descent review and she does it again the following week ...often they knot a hundred or so off and give some extra time .....its bullshit ..until they get the 1 guy who says no way and writes the TRUTH !!!!!! .......KNOW U STAY SWEET OKAY XOXOXOXO...............BIB
Posted By: HeathersLuv4u
that's exactly what I'd do if the photos were not a fair representation.
Photo shop wander created to coerce/manipulate. It is what it is.
I say, toss up a selfie and lets see if the reviews is correct.
Nonetheless, reviews are meant for this very reason. Sure there's some shitbag clients but apparently there's some shitbag gals too.
Keep it real or go home. Aint nobody got the time or money to be fucking w someone feelings. We all have to play fair.
as long as reviews are a currency for VIP. El cheapos will use it get free VIP. Only recourse you have is to contact admin and get it removed. May or may not work all the time.
When a review written more like a screen play for porn, you can pretty much assured it is fake
Yes, it would be wonderful if folks were nice to each other, especially in this realm. And it would be great if there weren't fake reviews, or BS that goes on on both sides of the fence regarding them. Guys threatening crappy reviews, or Women threatening black listing if they don't 10's.
If I look at someone's scores, and see some outlier reviews (high and low), I'm going to look at the source of the review to determine if it's a valid post or crap review one way or the other. I'm going to make my own decision and if the photos on your website are a fair representation, then the attitude I walk in with is going to reflect on the the attitude that you give back to me. Personally, I prefer to roll with kindness and respect.
Aliases and anonymity are ingredients for amplifying hatred and rudeness since the first message boards rolled up on a 9600 baud modem. Nothing is going to change that. Flamers will still flame.
My opinion is that life is too damn short. Don't be an asshole. Learn and grow to a better person. Going back to your first review to the current ones, I'd say you've done that. Just don't let the assholes get you down, because you are the only one that can allow them to do it
Your probably referring to that review where they guy called you a borderline BBW but your last 2 reviews are a 10/10 and a 9/10. My pants are tenting and I am debating a trip to Denver. Things can't be that bad. But I do share your contempt for guys who give girls poor scores for service because they didn't like some aspect of her looks. It is so babyish and hurts a girl who clearly went out of her way to rock his world. I won't stand for it!
the "whole truth". Others have offered true comments as well.
Reviews of providers are merely opinions of the reviewers. Guys should read more than one review of any provider they plan to see to get an overall opinion of what they might experience. Guys can see photos to determine if they want to see a lady.
In the real world, newspapers contain reviews of restaurants written by professional writers. Very few hobbyists are professional writers. We often go or don't to a restaurant based on the reviews we read. We also consider comments from friends who have been to a particular restaurant. Guys PM each other to get intel not found in reviews. Is there a pattern here?
I've gotten maybe 4 or 5 total and have been successful in getting all but one removed. The scores on the fake one are great and all, but the description of the date sounds NOTHING like me. And, of course, the creepy twat that wrote it insists that he saw me, yet can't even get basic details right. It sucks, it creeps me out, and I don't want people getting the wrong impression that what he describes is typical with me. Shit like that can make a lady feel pretty damn violated.
So to all of you fake review writers out there: you're either creepy or cheap and I bite my thumb at you.
A gym would do her good . Shes just lazy and thinking those Aldo pics will help her is stupid ! She doesn't get it heather but we do xoxoxo .......and your body rocks great selfies nothing like a woman who takes care of herself ..;..
Posted By: HeathersLuv4u
for me not making bank. If he's not lying, that's on you to make sure you do what you need I do to get where you need to be.
Thank you very kindly.. This practice of over photo shopping has jaded many fellas...and rightly so. THIS affects me and I don't appreciate jaded dudes giving me an attitude n hard time. I keep it honest and a "solid provider" ...over time, a ladies character and integrity will either make her or break her. Guys spend a lot of money and Imma bring my best game to every date...that's fair. I'm glad you guys get it cuz I wondered. I'm like "WTF" half her ass is gone..huh" That's why I put up a selfie page on my website last week so guys will feel more comfie. Imma come to NYC n toss few back wif u, k
I haven't been up here a year yet. I had one OLDER pic (pre-motherhood) up, when I actually had a 4 pack, I wisely took it out after a guy reviewed me on another site & mentioned the discrepancy.
Which is RIGHT.
I didn't bitch, piss, or moan.
I bought a new sexy thing to put on, took some more selfies, replacing the older ones. I don't advertise what is NOT true.
Guys have a right to be jaded over "false pictures" (a bit deceptive, right?) Just as bad as a fake review.
And it's just idiotic to not think guys won't notice in one picture a flat stomach, yet in another laying down the "jelly roll" that is hanging there. Not saying YOU or I- but I did some snoopery a bit ago- and could not help but notice...
It's just TOO obvious, and too obvious when chicks get caught up doing such foul business practice.
Don't take a picture of your pristine car when it was new, to sell when it is old.
Caveat Emptor.
Posted By: HeathersLuv4u
This practice of over photo shopping has jaded many fellas...and rightly so. THIS affects me and I don't appreciate jaded dudes giving me an attitude n hard time. I keep it honest and a "solid provider" ...over time, a ladies character and integrity will either make her or break her. Guys spend a lot of money and Imma bring my best game to every date...that's fair. I'm glad you guys get it cuz I wondered. I'm like "WTF" half her ass is gone..huh" That's why I put up a selfie page on my website last week so guys will feel more comfie.
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