TER General Board

I agree that sharing . . . .
WICardinalfan 4390 reads
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At the risk of stating the obvious, it appears TER is on life support.  Very sad indeed.  Forum participation is way down, as is the photo board.  I can't imagine this is a sustainable business model.   I hope things improve.

Hope everyone is having a great day.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 91 reads
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the love with all of the providers here might keep things afloat.  I could probably do more in the way of sharing the love if it were not for the ladies also wanting me to share the money.  Lol

souls_harbor 163 reads
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The archive of TER reviews is a gold mine if they can figure out how to bring it back online. Of course as the months tick away, the data does become more stale.

Fridays117 27 Reviews 174 reads
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... this whole place isn't what it was.  Wish it could go back...
Still around but a shadow.

IBDPhotography 86 reads
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Posted By: SweetMelissa
Re: things will only improve if
we share the love..  
   
 Most or a lot  don't know how to get back to TER  
 
I think you might be right about this... especially for the people who didn't participate on the forums very much.

impposter 49 Reviews 103 reads
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I first learned of TER via a story in the New York Times, a well known main stream media publication. I also knew about web proxies, in general. 1 + 1 = TER access!
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TER Admin should try to figure out how to educate the masses via main stream media news stories. "[article about sex work] ... Since FOSTA SESTA became law, many websites have shut down. Some, such as TER www.theeroticreview.com, although no longer accessible to US IP Addresses, is still accessible to others around the globe and to those in the US who are using a web proxie such as TOR www.torproject.org, or an anonymous VPN such as NordVPN www.nordvpn.com. There are anonymous email companies with informative websites, such as www.protonmail.com, that provide instructions about how to protect your ID on the internet...."
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TER has to actively volunteer as an "expert source of information" for people writing news stories about the current state of affairs (economic impacts; pimping and increased violence; etc.).  
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I know we have some marketing experts still posting. Tell TER how to leverage their assets to get useful info into the main stream so old users can reconnect and new users can find this place.

John_Laroche 99 reads
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Posted By: impposter
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 TER Admin should try to figure out how to educate the masses via main stream media news stories...."  
 
Uhhh, no they shouldn't, unless they want to be accused of facilitating. There's plausable deniability if they allow access to hobbyists and providers who have suddenly "moved" from their long-time home cities. What's the point of TER encouraging circumvention of the safeguards THEY installed?

meetLR See my TER Reviews 156 reads
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I strongly believe most people do not know or care to know about acquiring a VPN to continue using TER. Too bad for those that are not using resources.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 152 reads
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and then says, "Not only was the food terrible, the portions were too small."

impposter 49 Reviews 100 reads
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Posted By: John_Laroche
Re: or maybe not
Posted By: impposter
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  TER Admin should try to figure out how to educate the masses via main stream media news stories...."  
   
Uhhh, no they shouldn't, unless they want to be accused of facilitating. There's plausable deniability if they allow access to hobbyists and providers who have suddenly "moved" from their long-time home cities. What's the point of TER encouraging circumvention of the safeguards THEY installed?
It isn't illegal for me to log in to a website using TOR. I used to participate in controversial discussions on usenet news groups using the penet remailer to hide my real ID. People still participate on discussion boards using TOR or VPN or anonymizers to avoid possible repercussions (whistleblowers; people with diseases they don't want others to know about; lots of good reasons).  
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I just think that more people who only know main stream media need to find out about the lively discussions that can be found on TER if they only knew how to reach the site and log in.  Unfettered discussion of sex work, for sure, but no Profiles implied or guaranteed.  It is about open discussion and FREE SPEECH, sometimes ABOUT prostitution, but not prostitution itself.

KittyVibe 170 reads
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I'm not taking any chances. I'm paying for Nord VPN, using the Opera browser (comes with a basic VPN), Proton Mail (encrypted) and TOR when I need detailed information from TER. If you're going to use TOR, you need to do your homework (lots of it) to determine if you feel confident enough to use it. Talk to someone who understand Cybersecurity or -- find a meet-up in your area that teaches you how. You can probably also find a group that teaches you how to use Bitcoin. If you do anything to change the way you gather information get off of gmail and anything owned by Microsoft or Gmail. ProtonMail is based out of Switzerland and the encryption/security is like nothing I've ever seen before in a free online mail service. They are looking for donations so they can continue to offer the service so please be sure to drop a dime in their bank for the good deed they're doing for you. : )  

Good luck and be safe!  
Letty B. Good

Foodyguy 29 Reviews 146 reads
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Welcome stranger!  Good to see you back in the sandbox.

CharleneLove See my TER Reviews 162 reads
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Thanks for sharing. Great advice!
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Good deed donation sent!!

hodick 105 Reviews 168 reads
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free and easy to install along with their mail system

KittyVibe 166 reads
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souls_harbor 153 reads
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You don't get into TER at all from the USA anymore. You get an ISP intercept message saying TER does not accept connections from your country.

RomeoMike 39 Reviews 90 reads
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Just ran the leak test, using Nord VPN and Chrome browser, no TOR, no special browser settings. Leak test only detected my VPN end point in the country I'm using. The WebRTC detection only came up with a 10-dot private IP address, so nothing leaking there. I think the leak test link you provided is a good idea for people to see what is or isn't available about them via their connection, but it seems like a good VPN is a pretty good protection on its own. I wouldn't trust some of the free VPNs, not only because they might leak, but they may be storing info about you and your connections.

Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 149 reads
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SabineSavas 160 reads
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While rather an unknown/former UTR, I've been sharing with both clients and the few ladies I know about using VPNs to access TER but some just aren't wanting to go through the hassle.  

I'm enjoying being able to access except when my VPN switches to a US locale.

imanalias 167 reads
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Beating the dead horse ain’t going to revive it

HappyChanges 144 reads
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In trying to revive a fucking fuck board.

Georgia4U 99 reads
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Like the link test interestingly it seems I am traveling a bit these days lol.

John_Laroche 166 reads
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It costs money to stay operational. They could have shut down and just kept pre-paid membership fees just like CV did with prepaid advertising cash. That they're still here suggests they have a plan that goes beyond relying on revenue from non-US members.

 
think of it as a medically-induced coma.

(edited subject due to typing before morning coffee)

-- Modified on 5/24/2018 11:18:14 AM

GaGambler 168 reads
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It's pretty obvious they aren't generating any revenue the way things stand now, so they must be looking to the future.

 
and while beating a dead horse is rarely productive, CPR is a form of "beating" on an otherwise dead body and bringing it back to life. Let's hope someone performs some CPR on TER and does it soon.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 143 reads
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businesses that could sustain an 80% loss of business and remain open for very long.  It suggests that there is an end in sight and things will be made right in the foreseeable future.  Otherwise, as you say, if they DON'T have a plan, then they would have shut down, take what money was left, and fade into the sunset.  

BenneeProfane 98 Reviews 160 reads
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I was happy to pay for a VPN in early April when it seemed like it would be a lifeline. It turns out, all I ended up getting was a chance to commiserate with fellow TER members over what was.

So now I am down to 3 days left on my VIP account which I had earned with reviews. Since none of the new ladies I've met in the New York metro area qualify for reviews, that will be the end of my access.  

I assume that if TER revives, I'll hear about it. I am following the discussion on many different boards and in recent days, I've heard about some of the other big ones coming back after re-tooling. In some cases, there were only announcements and the re-launch is weeks away.

So I hope this is only a temporary goodbye.

imanalias 166 reads
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GaGambler 102 reads
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Anyone logging on to the discussion board also has access to the reviews and THAT is what could get TER in some very hot water if even one provider were to claim she was being trafficked and that her TER reviews were contributory to her plight. The truth of the accusation would of course be irrelevant, in this climate and given how the FOSTA/SESTA laws are written, even the mere accusation would be devastating.

 
I think right now the nod nod, wink wink game we are playing with the rules are about as much as we can hope for, at least until the PTB find a better and permanent solution to the problem, and I fully agree that the more people who learn how to re-access these discussion boards the better. As of this posting the current count is down to a feeble 715 users online. Unless they all start posting like LTM&L this place is going to be tumbleweeds in no time.

RomeoMike 39 Reviews 91 reads
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No, a 10-dot IP (10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255) is in private IP space and is non-routable across the general internet. See RFC1918.

impposter 49 Reviews 175 reads
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You can still read and post to the boards with a Basic Membership. You don't need VIP for that.

gggdickson77 21 Reviews 154 reads
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I walked away after taking a bit of a beating and being call all kind of names and abuse. I decided to drop back in to see what was happening. I have been ok out there by myself and a few fellow pooners who I have connected with. A few of my ATF have connected me with other like-minded individuals. We swap stories and experiences.  

However, I did drop in to share a new provider I cross paths with. I do tend to hang out with new providers and I do try to find ladies that we can connect on their fantasies.  

So life is good but sorry to hear about TER. But then I really do not care about others. I do care about my experiences and the experiences with those I interact with. Selfish maybe but it is a selfish world.  

With that said I am willing to breathe a little life back into the world of TER but what do I get in return? Meet a few other like-minded people?

vitomac 8 Reviews 139 reads
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DT_lover 188 Reviews 142 reads
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I thought the today was over a million back when USA reviews were open.

imanalias 174 reads
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I’m guessing they are excluding all US reviews from that total.

RomeoMike 39 Reviews 89 reads
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Fine, if you want to call it a leak, call it a leak, but it's completely useless, completely generic information. Nobody should be concerned that their system is leaking information when it returns a 10-dot address, it's not the IP of your ISP and nobody is going to be able to find your front door with it.

blue5361 191 Reviews 164 reads
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I just dialed back in using vpnhub. It got me in via Canada, but costs $13 per month. If no reviews on TER, I am not sure why bother except ride out TER membership for the Comraderie! Anyone have feedback on vpnhub?

1736687 15 Reviews 158 reads
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HappyChanges 181 reads
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Only a few would've remembered you running away with your tail between your legs. Anyway, glad to see you popped in.

gggdickson77 21 Reviews 166 reads
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JustForKix 15 Reviews 95 reads
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You are correct, and you probably also know this, but for other's benefit...

IP "leaks" in the test showing IP addresses starting with....

10.x.x.x
172.16.x.x through 172.31.x.x (172 in the first slot, plus any number 16-31 in the second)
192.168.x.x  

For all of the above, it doesn't matter what numbers appear where I've put "x"  

Also, for those using VPN's, note that if your VPN app fails or crashes during a session from your work or home, a potentially track-able IP will likely be exposed.  It's not always convenient, but public/free WiFi is safest.

JustForKix 15 Reviews 148 reads
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Take a look at Witopia.  They have a good plan for $70/yr, and I think one less than that which would also be safe to use.  Someone who does training for spec-ops personnel overseas told me this is what he recommends for them to use when in foreign countries.

Also, there's this about their logging policy on their Q&A page... "By design, we absolutely do not capture or store any logs of a user’s internet activities, DNS, or metadata. Furthermore, there are no logs that would allow any person or entity to match an IP address and a timestamp to a user of our VPN service."

RomeoMike 39 Reviews 97 reads
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Nobody should be concerned with an IP which falls within ANY of these ranges. These are private network IPs and by definition cannot be traced across the Internet. Thanks for adding this info.  

10.x.x.x is common in a large system private network, say, for instance, inside a VPN provider's network. 192.168.x.x is probably the most typical home network range, although it can be used in any private network. But I can't say that I've ever seen a private network implemented using 172.16.0.0/12, not sure what that typically might be used for (or if there is a typical use). I haven't seen anything that explains how that range was chosen to be part of RFC1918, it just seems like an odd little block.

But again, none of these should be a concern if returned by leak test.

And it's an EXCELLENT point that folks should understand how their VPN fails and whether it provides an alert or can be configured to shut off ther Internet connection in case the VPN connection drops.

Public/free WiFi might be the safest in terms of not being tracked, but frightening in terms of what it exposes you to at that connection point. If it's not one thing it's another!  

Good post, thanks.

HappyChanges 94 reads
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Obtain a,

10.x.x.x
172.16.x.x through 172.31.x.x (172 in the first slot, plus any number 16-31 in the second)
192.168.x.x  

or completely eliminate an IP address?  

Anyone care to share their setup? Enquiring minds would like to know...

RomeoMike 39 Reviews 95 reads
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You can't obtain an IP address in one of these blocks for use in communicating across the Internet, they are only for use inside a private network. The main routers that direct all traffic around the Internet will not route traffic to an IP address in one of these blocks. My current IP inside of my home network is 192.168.1.3, but there's no way for anyone on the outside to communicate with my tablet using this IP, they would need to have the IP assigned by my ISP to get to my cable modem, which would then do a Network Address Translation to direct the traffic to my private network IP (192.168.1.3) inside of my home network (actually it first goes to my Linkys router and then to my tablet but that's not important for this discussion).

The discussion above had to do with a set of protocols which are part of WebRTC. WebRTC was developed to support certain types of Web Real Time Communication using your browser. A flaw in many VPNs was discovered which allows your real IP address to be exposed using WebRTC even when using a VPN. When you use a VPN the external applications you are communicating with see your IP address as an address at the exit point of your VPN tunnel. I'm connected to a server in Canada right now so I have an IP which appears to be in Canada, nobody downstream of this connection can see where I'm really connecting from. But if my VPN wasn't handling the WebRTC issue, those protocols could be used to get my browser to give up my real IP as specified by my local ISP and thus determine my real location even though I'm using a VPN.

Twosmellyfingers pointed out that Firefox can be configured to not give up your IP via the WebRTC protocol. But I noted that Nord VPN blocks this exposure and only provides an internal, private network IP in the 10.x.x.x block even though I'm using Chrome without any special configuration. It turned into a semantics debate about whether or not this actually constitutes a leak by the browser. I'll be a putz and take one last shot. I manage a cyber network defense team and in my experience this would not be considered a leak because it does not contain actionable information.  

But symantics aside, the real message is that you shouldn't be concerned if your browser returns an IP address to a WebRTC query within one of the three blocks of private IP addresses. It's not the IP of your ISP and it can't be used to track back to your real location.

And circling back to your original question, I'm not doing anything overt to get a private IP address, I've got a 192.168.x.x IP inside of my home network because that's what my (and pretty much everybody else's) home network uses, and I've got a 10.x,x.x IP within the processing of my VPN provider because that's how that works. But I couldn't use either of these IP's to communicate directly within anything outside of those private networks.

I hope this helps. I akso hope that it makes sense, it's late and I'm tired and typing on my tablet keyboard is always  subject to weird autocorrect mistakes. Constructive corrections and comments are welcome.

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