A lot can be learned from how Asian providers do it. Often, without even knowing each other for 5 seconds, you are greeted with a deep wet kiss (which is how I think all greetings should be done in the hobby). If they have reservations, you usually can't tell. They kiss and make love, close and passionate like they mean it. Pretty consistent performance given to all their customers. Very service oriented.

Many have said that Asian girls they see in Australia have few English skills and are very business like, wanting you in and out as quickly as possible, with as little warmth and contact as they can.

When you first open the door and the gentleman walks in, there is a quick moment when i try to read the person. Once in awhile I may get that the person is shy and puoncing on him and sticking my tongue ...well putting my tongue wherever...would just be over the top for him. So, I'd take it a little slow.  
Sometimes they are shaking and I know if I go too quick, they'll come too quick. A little chit chat might be in order.
Sometimes I do grab hold and and go full blast 'cause they have that look in their eyes and nice bulge in their pants and it just has to get done. lol. That would usually be with someone I know, though  

My service is much more limited then most women here and priced for what I do.  Some guys just want Deep kissing while other want DATY, BBBJ in their GFE session.  Many times I don't feel they want to communicate in fear of saying too much.  
When I have an extended date and feel I'm being compensated appropriately sure I love just going at it and enjoying myself while catering to gentleman s needs.

Here is a Q for ya:

Well we call it GFE, but it is sort of like getting a ride from your girlfriend's taxi and the meter is running when you get in the door.  The guys are going to want to get to the destination pretty fast.  The gal is probably not in such a hurry to pull away from the curb.

A little communication is important, at least for some. Get to know each other. Chat a bit. Not saying that is what everyone would want, but one rule doesn't work for all. Only way to mitigate is to communicate. I am not sure your scenario allows for that. Clearly you have a preference, but somehow you would need to convey that to make you have your preferred experience.

I guess it depends on what market you are in.  
Where I am, I see ladies that give me the excellent fantasy of seeing a long lost girlfriend.  But, I go back to continue the relationships. And they all have me believing that we have an amazing time together.  Which is what I'm in p4p for.  
I did my research and if there was a doubt about the provider's performance, I steered clear.  
But, I'm a connection guy, I'm in this for at least a 90 minute or 2 hour journey.  
I travel a lot to different cities and also to Australia every year and have found the ones that are exceptional to me.  

by reviewing her website, Twitter page, and reading her reviews to see if I think we'll click. I'm drawn to her personality as well as her appearance and performance. I love being with a smart, confident sexy woman. I feel if a connection is formed, it will be a better experience for both of us which will lead to all of the GFE items (and more) you feel some providers are short changing you. I don't think that price has anything to do with it, but how comfortable she's with you and how you treat her. I treat every lady with respect and I'm always rewarded with an amazing experience.

That is for most providers because they are doing it strictly for money, first, second, third... And as a business they obviously want to give up as LITTLE as possible while receiving as MUCH as possible. Isn't that the point of business afterall, to maximize profit?

...but it's a give and take, as the input from the providers above seems to demonstrate. I usually book 90 minutes to two hours with a woman so that we have some time to get to know one another and make it a bit more personal. To me, that is the essence of GFE; we can list whatever acronyms we want to define GFE but, for me, it's making a bit of a connection before we make THAT connection.  

a girlfriend experience, its a Wife Experience.  

they don't book long enough sessions to truly experience GFE.  What's going to happen in a hour?  Maybe the beginning of a connection, but you're not going to really get things going until you repeat.  I see a lot of Asian girls, and agree with your intel that many want you in and out as quickly as possible, so you have to do your homework, read reviews, and have a reliable network of fellow hobbyists in your geographic area with similar tastes to yours to trade intel with if you're going to expect a real GFE feel.    

have sex with strangers from the general public and you couldn't take your pick of the lot.

even if you prefer a pse type of activities, if you see her over time, there is still the gfe connection going on there.

This is hard to explain. Of course all of us want all of our providers to be full on gfe, whatever that means. That’s part of the problem. Each of us, guy and girl, has a different definition of what gfe is, regardless of what Dr. TER says it is. The truth is, everyone is totally different on their sexual likes and dislikes. So yeah, a lady might say she’s gfe, and will dfk, but she’ll only do so as far as her likes will allow. It's more important that I see what her likes allow, than it is for her to attempt to go beyond what she likes. I'm better able to determine my gfe.  

The agency ones, amps... The independents ones are more what he maybe referring to...  

... in my experience.  I've met great GFE providers who charge $150/hr and others at 3x or more that rate. I think it all has to to with the woman's personality and approach to this business. Some see it first and foremost as a way to make good money.  Others like the income of course but truly enjoy their work, especially when their clients do their part to make sessions mutually enjoyable.  I focus on the latter and try to avoid seeing the former.  

-I really wanted to hear from these Asian providers.

I agree big time. The connection is key with me. I have to feel that she genuinely likes me or I`ll never repeat.
For example:
 On my 2nd date with my fav (8/9 rated) girl we sat on the couch and talked/connected for a 1/2 hr+ until I glanced at the clock and realized that I only had about 25 minutes left for main menu stuff and we quickly got down n, dirty. After, while cuddling she volunteered  way more personal info than I could have ever imagined, her real first name, where she grew up, family stuff etc. etc. Her trust in me with this info blew me away! Ran overtime about 20 mins. most of it was about her story  and she never said a word about it. Now calls me her "Cookie Monster" This is called a connection folks.

They don't tend to be fluent in English.

Ha, even the ugliest girl can get all the sex she wants.  Maybe not from the guys she wants, but from someone.  Now if chicks start paying for sex, even moreso.

I thoroughly enjoy creating a genuine and intimate experience.  I imagine how I feel when I've had a long day and I just want to get completely consumed in someone; to feel the rhythm of our bodies together writhing passionately.  I know what it is to crave that and I love giving it.  When I do hold back with a guy its usually because I don't feel him listening to his own body or mine.  What I mean by that is, most men are socialized with the expectation to perform all the time.  Weather it's at work, hanging out with friends, quick daily interactions and especially sex.  In bed, the expectation is to be domineering, rock hard, pounding some sweet ass until you get the money shot.  And if that's truly your honest desire that totally fine and we can do that.  But the feeling I get from most guys is that they don't really want that and their just acting that way because they feel it's expected of them.  They are fulfilling the script without listening to their bodies and they certainly aren't listening to my body and so we have this whole charade in which no one is truly being satisfied.  So when I hold back, it's because I want him to stop, let go of the expectations that have been placed on him by society to perform, perform, perform.... And allow himself to lay back, receive and let me make him feel good.  Which is why he came to me in the first place, no?  

Completely in agreement with Claire here.
I think that is why I prefer the longer appointment - it allows for a genuine organic slow build. Anticipation and seduction are a great part of mental foreplay...

I was a GFE before I even knew what GFE meant  

Sometimes with mainly Asian providers we start the action immediately at the front door and don't even come up for air for 30-40 minutes. Personally I LOVE that kind of session and just like the OP it's usually Asian girls where I seem to find them.

I'm not saying all Asians are like this, but more often than not, Asians are receptive and get right to cuddling, kissing, etc... treating you like a king and fucking and sucking like they mean it. They're not shy about touching you. They seem to get comfortable with you fast, even on a first session as short as one hour.
I would not call that PSE. It's still GFE IMO.

Besides the welcome kiss...  
Provider has already gotten a hot damn minute. Many hot damn minutes actually.
Mouth is freshly rinsed with your mouthwash.
Already on the bed, but the provider is still pulling back.
I'm not talking about wham bam thank you maam. I'm talking about being intimate.

I do agree that I too don't consider this PSE, but just a VERY good GFE. It just seems that some women don't require that "build up" that everyone else on this thread seems to think is a prerequisite for GFE, and I will allow that Asian women, especially K-Girls seem to high a VERY high percentage of women who have no problem getting "down and dirty" without any kind of "courtship" first.

The kind of kiss I'm talking about is what most people understand as DFK. Or even an LFK, easing immediately into a DFK.

I don't define dfk as tonsil hockey. My tongue isn't even long enough.

This type of thing sounds problematic. If this is happening to you often, you may have to start taking a brutally honest inventory of yourself.

Escorting is a customer service job. Fee for service.  
You knew what you were getting into when you signed up, good and bad.  
Now you have to excel at the service part, not do it half-assed. Your reputation depends on it.

as someone providing you customer service as you call it. You can be nice, but still give off an attitude of entitlement. I have never encountered your issues. It's probably because I treat her as a person first and not as someone working for me. And every session was unbelievable.

If they are not indy's, I'm sure their management keeps them on a very short leash when it comes to comments on a fuck board.

I'm talking about both at the door and into the session.
and let's give the customer the benefit of the doubt- The customer is a gentleman and expresses true interest in her, but it isn't fully reciprocated.

I started off giving you the benefit of the doubt, but the more you said, the less it sounds like it's the fault of the women you see and the more it sounds like it's YOU.

Hobbyists often see this as a fantasy.
A lot of them even expect there to be some acting.
Is that emotional barrier hard to break? Can you give the client some of that emotion, just so he can live that fantasy?

Posted By: RachaelLee

I was a GFE before I even knew what GFE meant  
   
 As for the question at the bottom: There's a difference between sex and making love. Sexually, I think everything is the same, but there is that emotional barrier. I see my clients as friends, and I love their time and company, but they aren't my SO. I guess it's like a one night stand.... I love to kiss and cuddle, but I'll still be gone by the next morning lol....

Good response, especially acknowledging holding back.

I dont think it's always about needing a slow build up rather than enjoying it. It's just mental tantra and I love that.
With all that said a hot fuck or pure sex raw has its place too 😜

and things might go better. I know they're being paid for their time, but you don't have to keep projecting that knowledge to her. Treat her as a person, an equal. Apparently, you're not doing this in one way or another.

I have experienced what the OP is talking about but  I just don't see the lady again. easy solution for me.

You really want to be treated like a "real boyfriend?" I'm happy to open the door just rolled out of bed, not showered, and with my face a mess and teeth not brushed. I mean, how long have we been shacked up? Do you know my cycles? Because that can help a lot with intimacy too.  

But then it tends to turn into a passionate love affair. Meow meow.  

I have the crush on ppl where it feels like the boss finally made the booty call. Sure, that's a fantasy, but it can feel pretty real.  

By the other partner. Sex builds by two communicating. It's really fun after many dates, (meaning if she has a YMMV day by - say, the 5th date, a lot of times that's the barrier broken date, and the roller coaster ride starts. There are some where you both leave, saying "WOW! What just happened?!" Then others, "That was really nice."

Absolutely +1

Most agency girls, Asian or otherwise don't even know how to log onto TER.

I don't really think DFK after seconds of meeting a provider is required for GFE especially considering that "girlfriend" part.  I'm not a huge fan of a tongue being stuck down my throat moments after meeting someone for the first time.  Let us introduce ourselves and talk for a couple of minutes at least!  I'm shy though and some people aren't easy to warm up to right away so I appreciate that bit of time.

That's the best answer I have seen so far. When I really analyze the reviews, and then go a step farther and see what types of girls the reviewers like, I get a better picture. (I don't have any friends in this hobby I network with.) And when I find that one that I want to see, I'll book more than an hour, and after a few visits our time together gets better and better.

veterans that had TER memberships so they could read their own reviews.  They never post nor read the boards, and don't use it to do anything else except occasionally read a review for a competitor Kgirl in their area.  Most only hear of occasional bad reviews through their bookers, who follow the reviews and posts on the Kgirl board ABOUT their girls.

I believe if a guy wants a GFE (and I always do) then it starts with me and providing here a BFE (boy friend experience). Treat almost anyone in the hobby well and you will generally be rewarded with a better experience !!!

Most of the women you have reviewed are quite plainly NOT GFE and you should have known this before booking with them. You might try upping your price point from the girls in the $200 hr range up by a hundred bucks an hour or so to the $300 hr range and you most likely will encounter a LOT more girls that offer GFE.

It takes two to make it spectacular. Furthermore,  the common denominator is YOU.

If you can't provide GFE in an hour, why do you advertize a 1 hr GFE?

I am with you!

Just last night I saw a regular and he contrasted me to the other girls who seem to naturally do more of a PSE. I guess for me since I really do like being intimate with someone and crave it often, it comes to me easily. And being low volume (about 4 clients a week currently) I don't suffer from burnout like more popular providers. I find one thing I like about the person - their humor or their eyes - and that's enough to connect with them. I'm also a shy, introverted person so I start off a little nervous and slowly things get more and more passionate and intense as I discover what the other person likes. Also, clients seem to really like DATY and that really gets me going  

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