many others on this board.

When I pay to be with a woman it is mainly for convenience and the opportunity to be with someone I might not otherwise meet. The whole power thing you seem obsessed with never even crosses my mind.  As you allude to, then contradict yourself, most women have more power over men than we ever will over them- and that's even more so with providers because they set the boundaries of the encounter.

So you may think it's all about power, and it may well be for some guys, but please don't throw the rest of us in that category because you can really only speak for yourself.

BTW, nobody does drunk better than MP67, so you either need to drink more so you can compete on his level, or drink less and make more sense.

he has made some equally stupid posts stone cold sober.

and I too haven't had a drink for a while, at least thirty or forty seconds. lmao

"Drunk, fat and stupid is no way to go through life" I am sure you remember that line. I wonder if the OP is fat? rofl

Come her seeking permission or pity? I think the most honest thing you said was the black man polishing your boots. He knows his plight won't get much better unless he stoops and loses whatever integrity he has to get booze or food, or whatever his addiction. You remind of a guy who gets his dick sucked and complains that the provider didn't make him spill a full cup. Get over yourself.

Take two Tylenol and call your faculty buddy in the morning. Make a confession about men being powerhungry. And then go home and fuck your wife for the rest of your life. Hot sex is truly wasted on sociologists.

if you were to "fuck her just to teach her a lesson", what would that lesson be?

I've come to the conclusion that when someone focuses on the need for power, they don't believe, down deep within themselves, that they can be truly cared about by another human being. I can't think of a single person that I know of, who truly feels loved and lovable, who focuses on having power over another person, unless it's in self-defense.

Yeah, you'd be perfect. You are already a drunk stalker. Apply within. There is even an opening now, Jimmy's spot is open since he broke the Bro Code and called you on your shyt.

This last post of yours should have been a separate thread.  Most long postings are pretty boring or cut and pasted from somewhere else.  If your stuff is so original, it would make for compelling reading.  Worth the price of membership!  If but only to watch the frantic replies.  Keep up the great stuff.

HH

I participate in these boards because it's a chance to talk about things I don't normally get  chance to talk about.  It's easy to talk about the weather, or sports.  But hookers?  That sort of thing doesn't go over well in polite society.  Even for me, where sex, sex worker education, and analysis of sex worker society is a legit part of my job.  It's not the same, though, talking about stuff here and talking about stuff in 'real life'.  Professionally, in 'real life', sex workers are just subjects.  But in reality, these people are people.  I like some of them, and get frustrated by some of them, and even love some of them (I really can't think of anyone I hate, in an area of my life, ever; I'm sort of sappy that way).  Hell, I can't let anyone go.  I got my annual birthday wish the other day from a girl I met once -- for about half an hour -- over 20 years ago.  I still think of people all the time.  I make certain connections and they are stuck, forever.  I hate the term 'hobbyist', because it sounds like we are collecting pussies the way stamp or coin collectors collect stamps or coins.  In reality, it's more like we are avid theatre patrons.  Or season ticket holders.  We like a certain form of entertainment. And appreciate the professionals who create the experience for us.  Except that is the ideal.  In reality, hmmmm...

Earlier today I had a few drinks and snack with a friend.  She's young, but smart, ivy league educated, has worked as an escort and sugar baby.  I originally met her in Europe, where she was working on a lark, and hired her, but we became friends and honestly now it would seem very weird to hire her, and the idea of having sex with her sort of repulses me.  It would be like having sex with my niece or something.  We last saw each other last summer, but are in regular email contact.

One of the reasons we are pals is because I can talk with her about sex work in a professional sociological manner.  Sometimes she has good insights.  And usually she is industrious and curious enough that when I say something she bounces off and talks to a zillion people in the industry and out and comes back to me with useful insights that are hard for me to otherwise get.   And she can get my feedback about her experiences and thoughts, based on my own experiences and knowledge, because she isn't the only person I talk to.  And being twice her age, I just know stuff.  The old people here know what I mean.  Anyway, she is one of very few people that I can talk to about sex work who aren't subjects or who I worry have their own agenda or whatever.  She's a spy.  And I'm hers.

Anyway, tonight we got onto the whole 'power' thing -- who has the power in various sex work situations -- and the usual discussion about what is really being sold in sex work (ego strokes, not sex) and various ways in which it is marketed.  Fine, right?  But she is flipping her hair and finally -- after an hour and a half with her -- I actually notice that she is wearing a satiny red shirt and short shorts with boots.  Completely inappropriate for the weather and unlike her usual 'civvie' style.  I wasn't expecting it, but realize damn well what she is up to, and totally go into analysis mode -- evaluating her pupil size, body position, voice.  She MUST know that there's no way I'm falling for this crap, whether real or fake.  But yet, yet, she tried anyway.  Is it because I've always told her she's a bad hooker and needs to stick with her other stuff?  In any case, I'm sort of insulted.  It simultaneously flattering and yet sort of pisses me off.

So what do I do?  I am tempted to get together with her again and fuck her just to teach her a lesson.  She is actually pretty easy to manipulate.  Not like other girls who are way more professional, who actually scare the hell out of me with their mastery of the male psyche.  But what good will it do?  I pulled this sort of thing before with her just to be an asshole.  But I have never actually fucked her.  She's even begged me.  Which made me want to not fuck her all the more.

Am I really that much of an asshole?  I guess it's the power thing.  We guys want power.  We'll pay for it, or we'll take it.

Any guy willing to pay for sex is a power hungry asshole.  We don't respect you ladies.  We are just willing to buy you.  Because being able to buy you makes us feel powerful, strokes our ego.  Whether you stroke our ego or not.

I sometimes feel really sort of ashamed for hiring prostitutes.  A black man also polished my boots today.  On the street.  Bent over, in the drizzle.  Entertaining me with his clever patter.  Was he simply working?  Or was it terrible of me to stand there and let him do it?

Oh. You mean like an AA sort of thing, huh?

I'll pass.

I'll go with G2 on this one, as least as far as my motivations go.  I have no interest in power over the women I see.  In fact, while I get to play with them, we both know at all times who has the power while we play.  Hint:  it ain't me, and I'm under no illustions about it.  Even when I'm giving her butt a slap I'm being very careful to stay within bounds...bounds which she sets, explicitly or implicitly.
PS:  I haven't had a drink in nearly a month.

Dig the 'Animal House' quotes, btw. One of my favorite movies!

But I can appreciate that something was eating at BashfulJohn. I sent him a PM, which he hasn't answered.

Maybe he's sleeping it off, and will think 'SHIT!' when he opens this back up tomorrow.

I know I do.

Wow.

You may be speaking for yourself here...as opposed to all of  the guys who are power hungry assholes willing to pay for sex.

And, my bet is the guy polishing your boots today was not nearly as angst ridden as you are about the whole boot polishing thing.  

Sober up. It will all make sense again.

I fail to see why the black man shining his shoes has any 'plight and stoops and loses whatever integrity he has to get booze or food, or whatever his addiction'.

What the hell is wrong with shining shoes? If it is something he enjoys and takes pride in, who are we to say he's wasting his life doing something so demeaning in other people's eyes?

For instance, one of my accounts is a car dealership. There's this older guy, I'll call him Gus, is a porter. Mid to late 60's. Retired from Sandia National Labs here. It's one the 3 places in the country where they 'build the bomb'.

Anyway, we talked about this. He's just the kind of guy that can't retire, sit at home, and watch TV allday. He needs to work. Needs to feel useful.

So back to John's thread. You know I know firsthand what it feels like to post drunk and get the fuck beat out of me. That's cool. I deserved it.

But at least I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see the underlying meaning and what made him upset.

Yeah, I know. Been drinking too. But I made a half-ass promise today to a couple of guys that I'd grow the fuck up......

Part of my life is titty bars.  Not as much as it used to be but it is still there.  I have a lot of fun, the girls seam to, the bartender sometime laughs her ass off, sometimes tries to hold me back.  Sometimes the other customers do not understand the attention I get and look down their Phd noses and do not get it.  Sometimes they call me out, Not in a physical way, but mental gymnastics.   I most always win because I enjoy what I am doing.  I am not looking for other customer's approval, I am just having fun.  Why does it have to be a Alias competition  to shout down someone’s post? Yes it might be asinine but just be a man and post under you real ter name.  No I do not get the control thing as I have always know women gets laid when they want, men get laid when they can.  Just because your a paying customer does not mean you can not get shot down.

It isn't the money. I make more then we need all by myself. Her providing is less then a fifth of the house hold income.

It is the power. Guys give her a days wage or more for an hour of her time on a regular basis. Then many of them want to please her as much as they want to be pleased. They pay her complements and many of them treat her better then they treat their own SO. She makes most of the rules. She sets the pace.

In fact the confidence boost from manipulating her clients in a good way is addicting for her. I think you are crazy if you actually believe you have more power then the ladies you are seeing, you don't. In this game at best you are on an equal footing. Unless of course you are seeing the pimped out or trafficked ladies, then sir you have the power but then you are scum. Even then it is the pimp with the real power.

Sex is power, if you are going to study the hobby you better realize that. The ladies control the sex so they have the power.

Second thing, I don't hobby for the power rush of it because I know I don't truly have the power. I have a great deal of respect for many of the ladies that do this. I am amazed on how friendly they are to a man as fat and ugly as myself.

I call more than a few sex workers my friends. The only person I really trust with my life and choose to share it with is a sex worker. How is that not having respect for them? I married one for heavens sake and chose to stay by her side when she chose to return to the hobby.

I can promise you I respect the ladies I see. If I didn't I would not soil myself by having sex with them. If you got to really got to know them how can you not respect some of the ladies that do this. Some of the best people I know are sex workers.  

Do I respect every lady that does this? No, but I don't respect every doctor out there as well. That does not mean I don't respect ether group as a whole.

BashfulJohn you may be speaking the truth about the fact that you don't respect the ladies you see and it gives you a sense of power over them. I will assure you, you do not speak for a great many of us Johns.

did you actually have three tonight

I spent two hour with three ladies and paid a total of $1800 for the honor of there company. Two of the ladies where each other real life girlfriend and the third was lady that they know who wanted to try out a bit of P4P with someone there that she trusted. Only one has an internet ad up so I doubt I can review, but it was a blast.

its just another alcoholic who needs a meeting.

Baby, this ain't AA...this isn't your meeting or your very much needed therapy group.

wake the fuck up.
If anyones capitalizing on this business its not the guys taking advantage, more like US using what we have based on Your weaknesses.this is in no way human trafficking. We ave made a choice. We choose to take your money from you.

Get over yourself. You are no more than a trick, a pay check a car payment. Forgotten about later. We move on with our real lives.

God get some help. Every day theres several meetings feel free to drop in and tell your story there.

For one, I don't know WTF you're talking about. It's no secret Jimmy and I don't get along, but I made it clear to the other mods I would have nothing to do with him. I would stay on my side of the playground, so to speak.

Don't know what your relationship is with him, and it's none of my business. But I do know some people felt slighted because of their interpretation of his abusiveness.

Take it as you want. Like I said, this is news to me, if infact it is true as far as the 'firing' of his position.

As far as applying for the job? Shit. The way I see it is I couldn't be any worse. But I'd like admin to make a precedent and leave it up to a vote to all the members, ladies and gents, whether I was worthy or not.

Yes. Even after all the shit that happened just recently.

Seriously doubt I would be considered in the firstplace. But just for shits and grins, I think it would be best if the general public had a consensus on the subject.

No hard feelings. I'm used to adversity. I sleep at night just fine.

but I can't really decide if the OP is a bigger asshole when he is drunk or sober. It really is a toss up. He's still a narcissistic fucktard who doesn't have a clue about the rest of us.

"This calls for a stupid and futile gesture."
or, perhaps my favorite,
"Do you mind...if we dance...with yo' dates?"
"Otis!  My man!"

so why should it be any surprise when you post like an even bigger douche bag when drunk?

Keep your gift, I doubt you have anything I want, especially your warped opinion about P4P.

Your post sounds more like a letter to Penthouse than anything that belongs on this board, the mods must have been out drunk last night as well to allow this kind of drivel on the board.

grownups treat each other as human beings and don't play such games. of course there is a stage in life (it's called adolescence) when one plays tricks and games like that while one figures out how to be an adult. power and manipulation games are common in the high school crowd. they are also regrettably common among today's politicians. that's why politicians of both parties are so infantile. you and they apparently got stuck at a developmental stage that is appropriate for a teen but inappropriate for anyone with a driving license.

in the hobby such arrested development cases show up on both sides of the envelope. on the client side there are guys who desire to play various tricks on providers to get what they want above and beyond what the provider provides. on the provider side there are ladies who treat clients as "tricks" to be fleeced for maximum profit. note that the usage of the word "trick" its telling.
LOL!

but seriously:

no i am not like you at all. neither are the ladies that i continue to see. they conduct their business ethically. in return i am straightforward in my dealings with them. there are occasional miscommunications but manipulative and tricky drama and power plays are absent. i've had enough of that and need no more.

when i see someone, client or provider, with such a power centered and manipulative agenda rooted in failure to develop into an adult human being..... well i hope that someday they can grow out of it.

"Baby, this ain't AA...this isn't your meeting or your very much needed therapy group.'

"Get over yourself. You are no more than a trick, a pay check a car payment. Forgotten about later. We move on with our real lives."

 Don't give him any power trip ideas.
 I often feel morning after guilt, when resorting to  power of drink on an AA damsel.
Sunday morning meetings are the most lucrative, with my pockets full of mini bottles.
An offer of "one little drink" just for fun Honey bun, will sometimes lead to much more, especially when her S.O. is golfing.
 I've never felt guilt, when a provider had the power over me, and took  my money.

-- Modified on 4/9/2011 12:45:03 AM

The OP is so full of himself it is nauseating!  I read his post.  I did skip over some of his bullshit because I just couldn't force myself to read all of his egotistical, far out thoughts.  For him to say he is this ladies friend only to so harshly judge her for her choice of clothing is utterly rediculous.  His post was insight into a truly sick mind.  

The only friend he is loyal to is himself.  He is a fair weather friend.  The type who is only your friend if you are the perfect image of the person he wants you to be.  Stray from that, and this is what you get.  A man who has no regard for anyone except himself.  Imagine that?!

First, what I don't think is directly stated is that he is confused over who would actually hold the reins of "power" if he were to fuck her.  He says he would be teaching her a lesson, but he would also be responding to the signals that she chooses to put out there, demonstrating that this young thing can bend an older, "wiser" guy somewhat to her will.  Although he can "dominate" her physically, contained in that is that he expanding the borders of their relationship in a way that makes him potentially more emotionally vulnerable to her.  So he feels ambivalence about pursuing her, because it might be transferring power to her, or at least away from himself.  There is also, perhaps, the undertow of guilt imposed by society about a younger woman with an older guy which is harder to dismiss when you know the person well beforehand than in the typical business first relationship.    

Second, regarding the power dynamic of a visit to a provider, I don't think the power trip has to come from or at the expense of the provider.  The fact that I know that whenever I have a bad day at work I can call up and screw an attractive young woman is a heady feeling, although doing so, of course, depletes my bank account and my actual spending power.  There is also the sense of power of controlling the time and setting, to an extent, of the visit, by scheduling in advance or choosing from dozens of available women at a given time.  Life is full of bizarre, downright unfair reversals; fortunately, the hobby provides a way to exercise some form of control over a very complicated but basic drive.  

Finally, the OP made some blanket generalizations, and certainly, for the well-adjusted, emotionally secure hobbyist, a visit with a provider should not be about a power struggle, where he gains by her loss.  So we try to drive within the lines.  But not everybody cares; let's face it, many guys do get off that way: being a bully can be fun.  Perhaps they just don't post here.  Who would want to admit it?

I'm still relatively new and posts like this one engage me at my own stage of thinking about the hobby.  As the OP said, this place is one of the few sites where this stuff can be discussed freely.  I'm glad he posted.

Jackboots are they?


Thank you
2011 = 28

With all the posturing and figurative brown-nosing, God forbid anyone actually put their nose in an ass, I enjoyed your composition.  I had to scroll back up to the top of your post to see if this was written under a cowardly alias layer, but no it was not.  A+

I will be walking with a spring in my step today!

-- Modified on 4/9/2011 9:24:50 AM

Huh?
Posted by Gin swilling jungle cat,
"Do any of your posts make sense to anyone but yourself?"

  Misery loves company and so do drunks.
    "Just one won't hurt you"
   Taking advantage of a damsel after an AA meeting with alcohol as your pheromone ,would be a power trip IMO.
     The OP's opinion, paying providers is a guys power trip,  does not fit my definition.
   Anyone  paying providers for sex succumbs to the power of her pussy. She's the one with the power, not the hobbyist.
 In your defense the analogies were not intended for anyone drunk while reading.
        PM if you need  more details.
     No doubt you know my handle.  LMAO

P.S AA is Alcoholics Anonymous

   
 

Many people gave me a chance. Seconds, thirds, fourths, and so on for a reason. It's not because they're saints. Some far from it. They see something inherently 'good' in me, so I'm obligated to do the same for others.

I'm waiting for his reply to my PM.

After I posted, later last night, I went online to email the woman discussed and let her know it was nice to see her again, and she had already sent me a few emails, and was still online, so we e-chatted for a while.  There's no problem there.  No confusing stuff.  There's significant backstory that was left out of my post.  Trust me; we are pretty explicit about stuff, and I don't remember if I did but it would have been totally within character for me to have said to her "I should fuck you just to teach her a lesson."  In which case she probably would have laughed and told me her current prices.  In any case, it was nice to see her again in part because although we live in the same city here in the U.S., we've never actually met outside of Europe.  She's the same goofy person here as a student as she is there as a reporter by day and escort by night.  It was really nice seeing her again, catching up in person.

And yea -- I'm sure the shoe shine guy was happy to get my business.  He made twenty bucks in 10 minutes, we put on a decent street show for a gathering crowd, and all had a good time.  He was star of the street.  I liked that he was working and doing a good job.  I don't give money to beggars.

As for the power thing -- OK, whoa, I am not obsessed.  The woman in my post is supposed to be writing a paper on power distribution in some place, and she chose strip clubs (because she is into them lately; oh she's so young sometimes! -- I told her to hit the gay clubs and drag shows; they're way more fun).  So anyway we were discussing the power balance in strip clubs -- club owner, customer, stripper, society.  And this stretched into various types of brothels and locations in major European cities, etc.  And anyway, the fact that prostitute clients are indulging power and buying ego strokes is a given.  Dudes -- if you don't get that, you are delusional.  And ladies, if you aren't selling ego strokes and the illusion of power, then you are not optimizing your professional opportunities.  I never said that the customers have all the power.  That's ridiculous.  I just said that's what the customer is shopping for, whether they realize it or not.  The actual power balance shifts depending on the person and place.  An upscale incall is one thing.  But there is a long gradient from that through being on call to celebrities, or under the thumb of Russian mob room owners and gangs and pimps and work agents for boys and girls who are still just children.  Do not even try to tell me that the provider always has the power.  I have seen otherwise.  And it is a really sticky net.  It's not pleasant to think about children making the cheap underwear we buy at Walmart either.  But you know, it's the way it is.  They're lucky to have a job.  And hey sex has got to be better than factory work, right? [/sarcasm off]

As for me writing about me... Well who the hell do you want me to write about?  I'm not like you other assholes who can apparently peer with ease into the mind of every poster here, and speak for them.

And what's the fat thing about?  I'm 45yo, 6'1", 170lbs.  I used to teach wilderness survival in the mountains and my biggest hobby for decades was martial arts.  Now hotel rooms and yoga are fine.  Hell, I might just go have a bubble bath right now.  Call me a girly boy loser if you want.  I don't care.  I like bubble baths.

And yesterday was my first time drinking since I think a glass of wine last week.  The only sad thing about it was that I was reading this stupid site drunk instead of with friends where I should have been.

And hey -- I love fucking my wife.  It's just that she's over 4000 miles away right now, and skype can transfer files but not my dick.

On a less serious note....

Man sitting at home on the veranda with his wife and he says, "I love you."


She asks, "Is that you or the beer talking?"


He replies, "It's me............. talking to the beer."

In the world of commercial sex, it is often acceptance that is being purchased.  But if a person, by challenging the accuracy of their negative beliefs about themselves, can learn to change those beliefs and become more self-accepting, they can be healthier people.

Sometimes "power" is the term used when the real issue is acceptance.

you think it's about an exchange of power for all.

That's got to be one of the shallowest and myopic analyses I've ever heard.

It's reflective of only your limitations.

How fucking ironic since you consider the rest of us omniscient all knowing assholes.

was funny; I don't care who you are.

for me anyway. I love being with beautiful women. I love the experience whether it be an ego check or not. Sure the shit eating grin I have on my face the whole time and days after are good for my ego but I don't feel a sense of "power". If you are not in this because of the shear joy of being with beautiful women young and old who are working their buts off trying to please you and you them; you need a different hobby.

Nevertheless one can cultivate strength in a given position.

There's a double entendre!

just read the post. I was just digging cause I was talking to MP and it was late. but 3 is something that becomes complicated. Did it once and it got ugly I had fun but the girls were not in sinkI.

This game we play as long as we are not seeing pimped or trafficked women has little to do with power. Ego stroking yes but power no. Yes it give some s sense of power but no real power is exchanged. I think just as many ladies percentage wise get a power rush off of this game we play as the men who play do.

I do not get a sense of power when I see the ladies in this game. If I get a sense that I am hurting the lady in any way I will not see her. I have never felt powerful because of the hobby. Speak only for yourself on that one as I doubt you speak for the majority of guys that avoid those they feel may be pimped.

Now in the case of pimped or trafficked ladies, yes they maybe powerless. Those that knowingly see those ladies are scum and need to be tried for rape in my opinion. And don't get me started on what should happen to the pimps and traffickers. I know someone who has been though what you describe. This kind of thing is always about money and power when one party is basically forced.

The thing is while there is women in those situations, most are doing this of their own free will just like I see them out of my own free will. Money is, as you said, power, yet so is sex appeal. Empires have been lost over a guy desire for a woman, now that is power.

money( resources) are limited. pussy is infinite.

if you have money,you will always have access to pussy
but just because you have pussy does not mean you will always
have access to the amount of money you need to live the lifestyle you want.
There are plenty of broke pretty woman civie and providers. they all dont live in first
class condos and drive mercedes. Ive seen providers posing in front of their toyotas
in their pictures

if you were a provider before the recession theres a pretty
good chance you have seen a decline in buisness because of the high
unemployment rate among men and declining 401k and housing prices.
There is not any scenario where a hobbyist with money would not have access to good
variety of girls.

now obviously things like looks sex skills, education,location,can put things more in
the providers favor, but simple supply and demand puts us in the driver seat.

Do any of your posts make sense to anyone but yourself?  Could you please start including the secret decoder ring that translates them into a commonly used language?  Pretty please.

You forget that most of the ways if not all the we have to get money are open to the ladies as well. A woman can do what I did to get my money, anyone can I just worked 20 hour days and lived lower then low while my business took off. But extremely few if any are willing to pay me for sex. Money is easy to get if you are willing to sacrifice to get it.

The power is balanced as long as no one is being trafficked. There will always be someone willing to sell sex and there always will be a buyer. In addition there is always anther way for most ladies to get the money they desire. True money is limited for most but for many so is sex with a hot lady.

Even in this recession the ladies are still getting $200 dollars or more an hour. More then most men make a day. That does not sound like they are lacking in power. Most of the ladies who are providers and are attractive that are broke would be so no matter how much money they make as they fail to plan and budget properly.

At $200 an hour only having an average of 4 appointments a week all for only one hour working 48 weeks a year is a gross of $38400 a year. Many ladies charge much more even during this recession see will see more than 4 clients a week and some of those clients will book multiple hours. To put that in perspective the administrative assistant only grosses $33,767 working full time. If a lady is broke it likely is not her income that is the issue.

Any man shining your boots in the drizzle when he seemed to imply hustling for tips is likely some one down on his luck. I only implied that his honesty for being in such a state struck me as the only thing that made sense in the story, Shining shoes, shoveling shit at the race track may be endearing to some, but in once the richest nation on the planet it's sad when any man has to beg for quarters on the street.

There's only one King of drunk posting, mother fucker!

Guess who that handsome sonuvabitch is?!!!

Those boots are way too tight.


You're Welcome
2011 = 28

he has no power, hes powerless so to him ANY sign he can turn into a power play, real or imagined he'll try like hell.
Really even in this business you are not te powerful one.
You call a girl whos ad you see pay what she determines is her rate for services She decides she is willing to do for the fee She has set jfor a time frame She determines. All this ONLY after she has decided and agreed to see you in the first place.
So...wheres your *power* there. Looks to me like shes calling the shots. lol

Only one who is Powerless feels the warped need to try and see this AS a powerful set up for himself.
She sees your weaknesses and only emails you cuz you are a fish on a hook and she knows with a lil play she can reel you in again and take more of your hard earned cash.

You are powerLESS  now get over yourself.
Aren't you supposed to be looking for a meeting?

just like sitting in the front of the roller coaster puts you in the driver's seat.

sex is also avaliable for free for most decent looking men.
infact if you read the book super freakonomics. providers wages
have been flat relative to inflation for 20 yrs,even with the internet
boom that brought so many new hobbyist to the tables.

a decent looking guy can get sex for free or cheap( a 14.00 movie or 7.00
drink) have you seen these mtv shows where these young kids hook up with each other
randomly on reality tv.

but I think the power is all situational
if the hobbyist has access to free or cheaper sex in the civvie
world or the providers has other ways of making money that means the balance of power
can shift back and forth.

and this a capitalistic society which means that even if a 100%
of the population worked hard and sacraficed for money somebody
will be poor or in the botttom 20%. and money in every circumstanced accept
the lottery has to be worked for,that does not apply for sex.

so in my opinion money is more valuable than sex

Actually, I agree. With what I could make out.

And people give me shit for drunk posting....

My question was actually serious. (No emoticons, no wry humor)

I was asking 'cuz I get about 2 sentences in and my brain goes "PASS IT UP!" ...its blah blah blah.

I don't mind long posts. Not even long-winded ones. But I open a post like that and see a dark screen from all the jammed together writing and....uhhh. I give it 2 sentences. If the writing is crap (and I don't mean controversial) I'm outa there.

I read every word of all your any most peoples long posts. I actually look forward to johngaltnh's posts; hell, they could be 3 pages long. The guy knows how to write!

I got my answer... I know where I won't waste my time.


HH