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chicago BBFS
Scaramouche 211 Reviews 5986 reads
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Trying to figure out why some providers (it seems to be mostly Asian agencies in the west) are advertising BBFS, seems to be new in the last few weeks.
I always thought that was the third rail of hobbying because of multiple risks involved (but that some were able to negotiate this secretly). Have people decided there are so many other risks now that it doesn't matter?  Or something else happen to make this safer?

pm5805 4 Reviews 120 reads
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2 / 54

The Asian houses in the SF Bay Area have been gravitating that way for the past few years. Again I don't know why; it's not all of them to be sure, but it's pretty common among the Korean AAMPs, and also some of the MILF/GILF Chinese/Taiwanese orgs.

Of course it's not "safe", but I think it's probably a risk people (and providers) are willing to take. HIV risk in particular is pretty low for female to male vaginal sex (btw I'm not advocating anything, but do that research and you'll see what I'm talking about; HIV is a blood-borne disease, and unless there's blood or open sores, it's very hard to transmit). Of course there's plenty of others things to worry about.

FWIW at many of these orgs there's not even an expectation of an upcharge.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 125 reads
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3 / 54

Its being offered because of high demand.  There is another discussion site that has many message board on many cities around the us for bbfs.  

Providers are having to put no bbfs in their ads to keep bbfs crowd away.

davincib1 96 Reviews 104 reads
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4 / 54

Just maybe they are trying to differentiate themselves from the high priced, non-GFE providers/agencies.  One thing I have noticed while just perusing reviews is that non-GFE prices have became the same as GFE prices.  What better way to gain business than to give PSE services for GFE prices.  Just my opinion.  

team_rocket_qwerty 100 reads
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5 / 54

It's not just bay area. LA and now Vegas have been all offering bbfs, Asian girls-wise. With the invention of prep, girls can be relatively safe a and entice BB fiends to get better traffic their way.

nevertoolarge 30 Reviews 118 reads
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6 / 54

BBFS is the ultimate catch-22   you DON'T want to do it with someone who does .......and you are more open to Doing it with someone who doesn't.  

in any case i cant imagine being comfortable with anyone who advertises it, let alone does it indiscriminately with first time visitors.      

allow me to admit i have succumb on occasion and sweated for weeks after.   and just because HIV is tough to get via vaginal sex you shouldnt get comfy because there are plenty of other too common aliments out there.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 115 reads
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successful career until their kidneys fail.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 24 reads
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8 / 54

I just wish I would get one that is a little brighter.  Each new one that shows up is dumber than the last.  Oh, well. . . .

pm5805 4 Reviews 83 reads
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9 / 54

Yeah, I wonder if PREP plays a part; wouldn't be surprised if some of the K-Girls are on it.  

I personally know one ultra low-volume provider who is on it, but she's a Caucasian independent lady, not an AAMP girl.

KJ5233 778 reads
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10 / 54

I've noticed a uptick in ads for this as well in the DMV area.

Mstrchf117 6 Reviews 87 reads
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11 / 54

This! Idk how many times I see an ad for bbfs and think I wouldn't want to be near them in a hazmat suit.  Otoh I think the reason the girls you'd want to do bbfs with look like that is because they don't take risks and take care of themselves.

List-Ted 104 reads
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12 / 54

What is "the DMV area"?

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 89 reads
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mrfisher 115 Reviews 75 reads
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Drumguy25 23 Reviews 91 reads
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15 / 54

Actually....I think it denotes " District, Maryland,  Virginia"

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 78 reads
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16 / 54

The National Capital Region portion of the Washington Metropolitan Area is also colloquially known by the acronym "DMV" which stands for the "District of Columbia, Maryland, Virginia." The area in the region that is surrounded by Interstate 495 referred to as being "Inside the Beltway".
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aka, the swamp

inicky46 61 Reviews 113 reads
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Drumguy25 23 Reviews 96 reads
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36363jensen 4 Reviews 76 reads
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19 / 54

It can be both -- I think those south of Baltimore, and inland rather than on the coast, tend to see it only as DC-MD-VA

-- Modified on 12/22/2020 6:12:47 PM

GaGambler 33 reads
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20 / 54

You sound jealous and racist to boot.

 
Just how the fuck do you know what Asian Agency escorts do? PLEASE just STFU about shit you know nothing about. I guarantee you most Asian Agency escorts make and keep a LOT more than members of the OTHFBC like you.

nevertoolarge 30 Reviews 130 reads
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21 / 54

check out the Chicago board ..  talk about a guy with dozens of review where he clearly states he did BBFS in fact even arranged with the girl before he showed up ..  for what its worth these were $120 to $200 ladies.  

guess it takes all kinds.   i worry about those ladies long term health.  

Onerealhotmomma See my TER Reviews 31 reads
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22 / 54

From what I know I agree and I was waiting for something like that from you...
Suzee

JawKnee36 95 Reviews 23 reads
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23 / 54

All of them are sex slaves? Even the ones who finish their contract and come back voluntarily? Even the ones who venture out on their own after they leave the agency, and are independent providers now? Even the two retired agency girls I know who are part owners of a local bakery now? Wow, I hope they all realize this.

Not making light of the horror that being trafficked must be, but I am shining a light on generalizations. I’m sure some of them are but I’m equally sure that many of them aren’t doing this against their will.

pm5805 4 Reviews 31 reads
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24 / 54

Well it's either the Asian ladies or "independents" like yourself who we all know are controlled by African American thug pimps who drive around in 1970s Cadillacs with shag carpet on the dashboard, and who beat you if don't make them enough money.

Choices, choices ...

nevertoolarge 30 Reviews 110 reads
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25 / 54

i saw a KGIrl for the first time in many years ..    second round she goes dont cover up ... i am   what?   ... she goes its ok  go ahead ...  and i thought well she only has 4 reviews so no a lot of mileage ..   so i succumb ...   felt pretty good  LOL .. but still its a very mechanical experience.  ...    but afterward i am .. what have i done  ?!?!  i get tested a month later  Whew .. all good ...   so ..  

since i have extremely limited KGIrl experience ..   contacted two guys here who have dozens of KGirls reviews and ask about BBFS with them.   they both replied that most of the KGirls offer it and no extra donation needed,  that they are pretty casual about it.     well i wont be seeing a KGirl again for a while!    

so yes it does appear that BBFS is very common amongst the under $300 Kgirl crowd.  

iHeartMouthHugs 28 reads
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26 / 54

Queue the music!

GaGambler 35 reads
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27 / 54

but sex slaves don't have Boyfriends who they see all night, every night for free. Sex traffickers, like all other pimps don't allow that kind of thing. I have had several "real" Girlfriends who I have had LTR's with who worked for Asian Agencies as have several other posters on this board, so PLEASE just STFU about shit your little racist pea brain can't possibly understand.

 
Oh wait you are an Asian provider yourself, and you have the knowledge I have, yeah right. You are white, or black, or something else other than Asian so PLEASE just GO FUCK YOURSELF with your racist self.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 27 reads
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Wrong. This isnt to say trafficking does not happen at all, but such statement is just wrong. I am someone with no love lost for orgs, but to accuse them of HT is too much. These supposedly 'sex slaves' retire and then run the damn thing themselves, driving some very nice cars and rocking some luxurious jewelry.

 

The asian agencies are all very upfront with ads, and there's nothing better the LEOs would love than to break HT rings. Yet raids happen once in a blue moon. You see storefront amps busted more often than agencies.

 

Also, I see many independent h_x girls go for BBFS in LA as I explore the H_X scene. Young girls who need $ fast will give it up. They don't advertise it upfront because they will get eaten alive by the community, while Asian orgs don't need to answer to the moral police. But it's definitely happening in LA and Vegas, yes with very non-asian providers giving up that poon  bare.

GaGambler 34 reads
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What made you think that a woman was "low mileage" just because she only had four reviews? By that same little choo choo train of logic someone like me with ZERO reviews probably doesn't have a lot of experience either.

 
So what makes you think that BBFS is ONLY common amongst the "under $300 Kgirl crowd" Are you really as racist as that  M. Grey cunt?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 36 reads
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30 / 54

I noticed you have only been posting a few months, have no reviews, and are drinking the sex-slave Kool-Aid spouted by some of the American providers regarding Asian competition.   How many trafficked sex slaves have you seen that worked when they wanted to, were off when they didn't want to work, can tour several cities throughout the country without a chaperone, had their own apartment where they lived when they were not working, owned a car and had a state-issued drivers license, and can date a customer on the outside without the customer paying if they want to, just like providers of other ethnicities that use agencies for booking services?  I'm willing to bet you have never seen an Asian agency girl, am I right?  That's what makes your statements so laughable.  

 
Time for a lesson ignorant one . . . . BBFS is not forced on any Asian provider.  Its a choice she makes when she advertises herself as either PSE or GFE.  PSE girls are offering BBFS if you want it.  GFE girls do not.  This does not fit with your trafficking claim, but its the reality of the business.  Your ignorance about this business is only exceeded by your apparent racism against Asian providers.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 29 reads
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Black--Panther 83 reads
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Been through this before. There are no K-Agencies, K-Amps in Washington, DC. I guess one could say DelMarVa to say the general area. DMV can be both DC, Maryland, and Virginia, but then that would be misguiding because there are no K-Agencies or AMPs as we know it in DC proper.

Taliacurves See my TER Reviews 33 reads
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33 / 54

Thank You for this.

DCGuido 133 reads
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34 / 54

It's happen for me with both Asian and Latinas in he DMV with the known agency gals, however usually by accident while in p2p or the condom broke.  I don't see these gals enough to build a repore and pre arrange, however do prefer it.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 30 reads
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a friend sent me the link to her website.  I looked.  Pass the bleach, please.   LOL

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 40 reads
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36 / 54

double down on your ignorance?  Nice.  Read my post about the difference between PSE and GFE, and it will show you that your claim that "all girls . . . . . do BBFS with every client" is complete bullshit.  

 
I apologize for thinking you were a man.  Usually, its only the dumb-ass inexperienced mongers that think this way about Asian providers.  That means you must be a provider who is racist against Asians and needs to spout this bullshit to suppress the competition from slender Asian girls who charge the same or less than you.  This approach is going to turn off a lot of potential johns for you.  

 
You are a robust women, so you do not even share the same prospective customers that Asian girls get.  Its a different market.  Customers that like girls who are 5-4 and 110# and not going to be prospective customers of yours, so no need to lie to try to suppress customer interest in Asian girls.  Its Apples and Potatoes, completely different.  One bit of advice . . . . Your photo gallery would be more appealing if you bought lingerie that fits properly.  Just my opinion.  Others are free to disagree.  I will not be offended if others here are drawn more to a woman who cuts a more substantial figure than most Asian girls.  To each his own.  

GaGambler 27 reads
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37 / 54

You can have some, but it's gonna cost you. lol

Black--Panther 28 reads
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38 / 54

What, you don't like BBBW? You know, that's where all the spinner K-Girls disappear to, they get eaten by the BBBW, like chicken wings from Popeye's.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 22 reads
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39 / 54

I just spit coffee all over my keyboard on that one.  LMAO

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 35 reads
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PS....I dont think thats Meredith Grey....( DC based provider )
They have a similar username, but M. Grey seems to be from the AZ. area
Meredith Grey ....thats her username, and neither are using an alias to post here.

GaGambler 35 reads
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I don't see anyone confusing Milla Grey with Meredith Grey except perhaps you.

 
Here is a link to her site. She might be a racist, and she is definitely clueless, but at least she will get some free advertising out of this thread, I kind of doubt that it's the kind of attention she is seeking though.

RIFFRICHARDS 27 reads
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Tru dat! Those are some bad pics.

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 29 reads
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Ahh....my mistake. I am indeed confused...or was.  
Now im on the same page.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 23 reads
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CDL’s post was written as though he was talking to a monger. I was merely letting him know that the poster M.Grey that he was speaking to was a provider and not a monger. I never mentioned anywhere which provider she was, and that wasn’t even important.  
Sorry for confusing you, drumguy.

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 16 reads
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BarryWright 41 Reviews 124 reads
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nevertoolarge 30 Reviews 147 reads
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interesting this thread on BBFS ..   5 years ago TER wouldn't even allow this topic to be mentioned -- guess its part of the realization that despite better judgement it does go on.     fortunately for all of us,  the majority of ladies are careful and don't permit it.   but its only putting one's head in the sand to not acknowledge it also goes on more than discussed and perhaps more than it should.   and this applies to independent as well as agency ladies.

perhaps by bringing it out in the open is a good thing so people (ok i mean guys) will realize they are not "the only one"  or " i never do this with anyone"   might not be so reassuring.  

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 115 reads
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You say 5 years ago TER wouldn’t even allow this topic to be mentioned. This is not correct. If you had said, “10 years ago, TER didn’t allow BBFS to be mentioned in ads or reviews,” then you might be correct.  TER started allowing BBFS in reviews and ads from late 2011. Before that it wasn’t allowed to be mentioned in reviews and ads, but it was always allowed to be discussed on the discussion boards.

Posted By: nevertoolarge
Re: BBFS in the past
interesting this thread on BBFS ..   5 years ago TER wouldn't even allow this topic to be mentioned -- guess its part of the realization that despite better judgement it does go on.     fortunately for all of us,  the majority of ladies are careful and don't permit it.   but its only putting one's head in the sand to not acknowledge it also goes on more than discussed and perhaps more than it should.   and this applies to independent as well as agency ladies.  
   
 perhaps by bringing it out in the open is a good thing so people (ok i mean guys) will realize they are not "the only one"  or " i never do this with anyone"   might not be so reassuring.  

GaGambler 117 reads
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Here is what a search under the keyword "BBFS" brings up just on this one TER board, almost FOUR THOUSAND posts mentioning BBFS going back 20 years.  

 
Don't worry, keep posting long enough and eventually you'll get something right.

nevertoolarge 30 Reviews 88 reads
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yes you are right .. more like 10 years ..   Wow -- time flies ..  i go back at look at some old reviews that i thought were more recent and cant believe how fast time has flown.     point is, for the longest time BBFS was not allowed discussed and that it might be beneficial its more out in the open these days.  

GaGambler 86 reads
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I found posts discussing BBFS going back as far as 2001, so your point basically is completely WRONG.

 
Perfect Storm was correct (naturally) where it comes to reviews mentioning BBFS, but that is not what you were claiming when you first posted, nor is it what you are saying now about BBFS not even permitted to be discussed which is 100% wrong as my link proves beyond any doubt.

SeanNJ 9 Reviews 144 reads
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Covid-19 or Honeymoon In Vegas . Which is worse anymore ?

snafu929 20 Reviews 123 reads
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It is my recollection that BBFS was always allowed to be discussed in forum but frowned upon in the actual reviews.  There was a time that is was an option to click in reviews BUT that may have been the dog site that was taken down in Operation Fleacollar.

GaGambler 105 reads
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I am assuming you are an "old fucker" because you have been here even longer than me. lol  And ironically I was on the Woof Woof board before I found my way here.

But you are slightly mistaken, You are correct that "discussion" of BBFS has always been allowed here, but mentioning it in  actual reviews was never allowed until relatively recently. I honestly don't remember the Large Canine position on BBFS reviews, I can't even remember the last time I read one, or even logged onto that site.

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