Seems to me that if you have $ to play, you have discretionary income. Not too many guys are going to skip the mortgage payment or let the lights go out at home so they can get laid. The better argument (or more appropriately put, "whine") would be 'I can't get laid as much as I'd like to at these prices'. I would submit that if you're in the game to any degree, the economy is having marginal impact on your life.
Now back to our regularly scheduled whining...
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Don't forget , everyone is different .
Some of us prefer naked ass .
If I was only looking to rent her time , I wouldn't bother to read her reviews . 
All $300 each. I spend about 2 or 3k per month on hobby haha. Would not see someone with borderline like you. What happened to u a child? I know a good psychiatrist that can help u. Let us know
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Until they figure out how to outsource escorts to China and India.
Now back to our regularly scheduled whining...
...... confusing their want with a need I find leads to a lot of bitching and it's being seen as the "luxury" it is of sorts (just being pussy in some folks eyes or not). It's not they can't afford it just not as quickly as they want to get their hands on it (or dick in it rather) or not as often as they want. Playing in your hobby (financial) lane ....crazy idea I know.
Huge plus 1 from from also.
I will gladly help anyone I can with such things, but don't come here trying to make people feel sorry for you because you can't buy ass. Get a damn GF!
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...... though I usually like simple things and can be easy to please....I always want something so I'm not exactly a cheap GF either.
For some of us, hobbying may be a luxury, a past time. But for some of us with crappy marriages, little to no sex, no quality companionship, then a woman's voice, her companionship, her soft touch, her kisses, her sexual love are as much a need as the man crawling across a hot desert savoring a cool cup of sweet water. While we're not reproducing in our sexual activities, still our need for sex and a human touch must rate fairly high up there on Mazlow's Theory of Hierarchical Needs. It all depends on your individual circumstances perhaps, but for many of us the fulfillment of our quest for a woman's touch even through hobbying (since it can be more expedient ) is perhaps more a fulfillment of a need rather than pursuit of a luxury.
afford it. If you are not one of those people, a sugar baby or mistress might be the better option. They are much cheaper in the long run and spend more time with you. Also, there is more of a companionship based feeling vs. get out after the hour is up known to be the provider world.
It's a bit of a contradiction to try and say emotional longing is what you're searching for, when you're seeing hookers who you demand not call or text you until you are ready to fk again. If true companionship was the real premise, you would not have a problem with a more demanding type relationship. You can't say you want a connection and the same time, "Don't call me and ask me for shit until I am ready to get my d*ck sucked again." Not suggesting that YOU are doing that, but if you are in the p4p world and you are married, then yea...you are.
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Mostly it seems that the whiners about price are the ones who only see what happens on TER ad boards and don't expose themselves to other venues. So, ya when you look at things in that narrow vision, you tend to want to bitch because there is a lot of greed. But, those who have a little game and common sense know that there are plenty of opportunities if you just open your eyes and don't put so much emphasis on trying to be just another notch on a TER girls backside.
But then, it's always fun to criticize rates on the boards and watch the shills and greedy girls come outta the woodwork to put you on blast... LOL Sometimes that's the only reason to mention rates... just stirring up the natives...
Bit of an oxymoron there don't ya think? Greed would have me off of TER, and on my back more. I'm far from greedy, but I am not stupid either. I am not going to fk 10 guys a week, when I can see 2 for the same amount of money in the end. Greed would have me leasing a vehicle vs. paying for one cash like I have always done, or going out and spending 800 bucks on a pair of shoes, that are going to be fked up in a year.
I don't expect my clients to take me out for lobster dinners, and buy me expensive gifts either, but I sure as hell provide them with a standard of luxury that very few can do at my rate. When was the last time you were picked up at the airport by a personal driver, brought to your hotel while he waited for you to check in, taken to the woman's incall, and then taken back? When was the last time you had a choice of not only one, but three incall locations to suit your needs? My guess is never.
When women charge more, they usually go all out for their clients because they can afford to. I bet a girl charging 2k, can do all that and more. If I were charging half my rate, no way in hell I could afford any of that crap, and I would be fkin 10-12 guys a week on top of that. No thanks. I think you confuse greed with just wanting to be low volume...not nearly the same thing.
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OMG, London, your service sounds absolutely exquisite! Sadly, it's out of my realistic price range...but, of course, more power to you in succeeding in our economic system with your assets and skills! I must be content with the mid-price range ladies, many of whom are very pretty, very nice and many of whom do give a real effort at pleasing their clients. I imagine there are good/bad providers and experiences to be had in all price ranges. One of the differences perhaps being that I may only be offered some water...or wine if I bring it... I have noted that ladies in the mid-price range do seem to have to meet more clients, depending on their financial goals, plan timeline....and greed. The stats I've read for the mid-range escorts state that five clients a day seems to be the norm. In doing my own empirical research, a number of ladies have told me 3-5 clients per day was their average, with ambition v. greed showing up in whether they perhaps work four days a week or seven days a week. I recently knew one provider who appeared to do anyone with a dick and dollars in hand. She would squeeze them in one after another, from HR clients, to HHR clients, to 15-minute "quickies" and I was either waiting my turn (at the nearby McDonalds) or sometimes being a bit rushed as the next guy was due to knock on the door...(To her credit, her performance was a 9-10 and she is highly reviewed!) Rather than specializing and/or finding a niche, she would try to do everything from high-class call girl doing expensive overnighters to doing guys off the street in as many quickies as she could squeeze in. I just never knew what to think of her: whether to marvel at her fortitude; admire her ambition; envy her busy savvy; or pity her... I suspected that she may have had a serious recreational drug habit: signs were there but I could never prove it. The biggest sign being that when I suggested it and offered my support, she broke off contact with me for the strangest of reasons...I pray for her.
I mean not ONE person lol. Even the massage girls I know who are high volume might only get 2 a piece on 3-4 days a week then take the weekend off. That's a lot of fkin!
I do feel bad for your friend, and hope you guys can maintain some sort of contact. If she does in fact have a drug habit, she will need to tackle that on her own though.
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LOL! So true! There's a lot of competition out there which, I think, keeps prices sensible- especially in the mid-price range. If a hobbyist just reads TER, he'll walk away with a skewed impression of prices. But there are many other escort malls and review sites out there. Many of the golden pussies here on TER would have you think that they're the only great providers in existence and all others are inferior. Well, its a myth that they propagate for their own economic interests. Take it with a BIG grain of salt, gents. See my post yesterday on Immigrant Labor or, as I should have called it - Immigrant Love. The recent influx of immigrant ladies is bringing competition to the market both in price and eagerness to please/quality of service. Although you ought to be wary, most of these ladies are not being trafficked but are merely here looking for a lucrative profession to help their families. Gee, isn't that a big reason why many native-born American women go into the biz?
find them, and some guys will INSIST on TER reviews..I don't really blame them either. This site has more models and porn stars, than any other so the TOP girls are here. I am not one of them lol, but I would rather be on a site amongst them where their clients have access to my profile.
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Everyone wants their salary to go up because they are underpaid, unappreciated, and unloved. The product/service THEY provide is worth more because their expense have gone up, it’s a lot of work, etc.
Simultaneously everyone wants what they have to pay for to go down in price because those gluttonous bastards are trying to bleed us poor working types dry.
It doesn’t matter whether it’s gas, ice cream, tickets to a baseball game, or escorts. It’s always easy to demonize “THEM” because I want something and I can’t afford what the going rate is. I guess that’s why I don’t have a couple Ferraris in the driveway of my palatial estate. Damn gready Italian car companies!
If a guy cannot afford to see a particular lady, either save up or see someone else. There will always be window shopping at stores we can’t afford. Don't blaime the store.
but sure seems like a waste of bandwidth. Just hobby at a level that you can afford and quit your bitchin'.
The hobby is all about discretionary income and wanting to CHOOSE who you can have sex with rather than accepting what you have for free at home. It's not a right and it's certainly not a necessity.
The problem is that you get guys who think that, because the recession of the last few years, every woman selling sex should be holding the line or discounting. Well, my cost of living has not decreased in the last few years and I'm willing to bet that the same is true for providers. As an independent contractor in my field I have not lowered my rates to compensate for the recession. In fact, I raised them last year. Why should an escort be any different? Neither my doctor, dentist or mechanic have lowered their rates either.
I've just never understood the logic that these
guys are using. Frankly, there is P4P sex available in just about any price range one can afford if one can afford it at all. Instead of wasting time starting threads about what providers should be doing they would be better off spending the time reading reviews and searching for women that they can afford.
The guys who HAVE MORE MONEY are the ones getting the discounts lol. That is what is really ironic. I have friends who constantly whine about being haggled and their rates are like 200 bucks! I never get that shit, and I charge 3 times that much. Why do guys tend to haggle the women who are already giving them a reasonable rate, and not the ones who are expensive? Most likely that segment of the market, but still...makes zero sense to me.
The ones who insist you take 50 off because 300 is all they are willing to dish out .
I see a girl once for one hour and it's $400. I see a girl once a week for a three hour session and my hourly rate 'magically' goes down.
.....by penny pinching. IJS. Also maybe the figure since the lady is not all that pricey to begin with (to them) why can't/or shouldn't she come down a bit more *shrugs*.
If you can afford to be a hobbyist , then i don't you're impacted by the slow economy lol.
Guys who can't afford to pay $300 hr for pussy , guys who cant find a job.. wondering how they're going to feed their families.. those are the guys who should be bitching about the economy!
great thread by the OP!
Unless you have a severe sexual addition, the money you spend in this hobby should just flow out of your wallet without a thought and should result in the level of whining and pain that seems to be evident on these boards.
I'm NOT saying you should pay whatever anybody charges (because some things are worth $2k and others aren't even worth $0.2k), but if her rates are $xx and that's what she gets from most guys, then just pay it and STFU. If that payment hurts too much, then play at the lower limit tables. The level of emotion that I see attached to these "economics" posts is much higher than I would expect for a hobby. In fact if we were to equate this to an actual hobby, we might have a much healthier view of economics.
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That's likely because of the fact that for many men in the "hobby" it is not merely for fun, it's not merely a frivolous luxury, but the fulfillment of a very real, very necessary need for a woman's physical touch, her look, her comforting and reassuring voice. The latest literature on providing seems to note a growing trend for the desire for the GFE rather than 3G sex. (Ladies, is that true?). If that is indeed true, it may be an indicator that hobbying may represent the quest for fulfillment of a human need, above and beyond mere sex, as much as if not more so than a search for an occasional luxury.
The fact that you think your "need" for a relationship with a woman can somehow be realistically satisfied by paying someone to fulfill your quest is the depths of delusion.
Yes, one can feel incredibly special during a session, but to say that can in someway replace real relationship or interaction with an individual, who is with you of her own volition is truly a fantasy.
like maybe family, career, etc. and that won't leave much room to meditate on nothing but meaningless ass. You're not buying emotions here, so keep it real. It's sex..period.
Let us test this so called "need" shall we. If you had a child in the hospital with a terminal disease that left you too broke to pay for ass, would you steal for it? Kill for it? I highly doubt it. You would however steal and kill to keep your fkin kid alive I bet? That is a need my friend.
If you long for a woman's touch, you're in the wrong place. Regardless of what you might feel during that time, it's all bs. We get paid to act. A mistress sounds more like what you are searching for.
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Pleasure sex that you pay for, is a luxury entertainment expense. The people (not Men) who cry about the economics of buying sex, lack any and all perception of reality.
It therefore makes sense to me that someone would spend irresponsibly on this.
I haven't budgeted exactly, but an hour at $$.5 or $$$ is something I could afford as a special treat a few times a year. The experience would have to be worth it, and I certainly have no intention of buying an hour of drama or booking a lot of time.
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