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Was reading a post last week by JS63 that he gave a deposit and you did not fulfull your obligation and not returned his deposit?

Would be interested in hearing your side of the story?

Danny

you're obviously still not over Kate's decision to dye her hair...

Sounds like a reasonable question to me. Doubt very much it has anything to do with the red hair. The post did happen last week. Give Danny credit because a lot guys would not ask that question of someone as highly regarded as Kate.

Hey shit happens, maybe the return of the deposit slipped through the cracks. Fair question in my estimation. What does he have to lose by getting an understanding of what happened?

LOL..First off all what does Red Hair have to do with a lady being accused of not returning deposits?

Second of all I even said I have no problem with red hair..In fact some of my favorite ladies I have seen are redheads (Janet Mason, Chloe, etc)..

No response from Kate already tells me of her guilt..And trust me Keisha were to post I would ask her the same thing..You have to understand I do give deposits and I just to know who to avoid giving one too..

Round up the horses here comes to White Knights to the rescue!!! LOL..

D

The deposit thing with Kate happened years ago according to the poster who never got it back. That's not a defense of what happened. He should have gotten his money back instantly. Years ago they didn't have PayPal or other more secure methods of payment, but nothing back sounds like a calculated ripoff.

I pay the full amount in person, and if that doesn't work I don't see the PS.

Your points are well taken and the bottom line is the guy should have received his money regardless of what technological advances were avialable at the time - it's just common decency and good business

When it coems to deposits there are a couple of things that boggle my mind:

- why take a deposit if upon cancellation on the ladies part, the PS or any provider can not pay it back immediately

- PS charge a premium and right or wrong the expectaion is great performance behind closed doors and to handle your BUSINESS in an appropriate fashion. It seems like Kate has the behind closed doors part down pat, the business part, not so sure

- It always appears that the cleint has to chase down his deposit. It's all sunshine and smiles when the deposit is given then you need to hire a SWAT team to get it back

- Am I being to simple on this. If a PS is charging say 1k/hr and owes a refund, why don't they just book an appointment with a regular and just hand over that fee to client who is owed the refund. I doubt very much that the porn ladies are sitting idle between the time a depsosit is given and the time of a cancellation. They deal in a cash business for the most part so they normally have SOME money on hand. Which makes not paying the client back a conscious descison on the part of the lady. They know what they are doing and are chosing not to pay! Let's jsut call it what it is.

- they dont want to hear any sob stories from us if we cant pay their fee and we should not except weak excuses for not being refunded a deposit immediately!!! There may be a legitimate excuse and that would be for each individual to decide for themselves

- in the real world when you don't pay what you owe you are considered a deadbeat, case closed! Try not paying your mortgage and see how friendly your bank is. And when they come for your house they are not showering you with rose pedals!! LOL

It's obvious there is interest in this topic due to the number of views, but because of the lady in question I think the responses are muted for fear of pissing her off or maybe not being able to secure an appointment in the future. If that is the case my repsonse would be as great as Kate is there are a ton of ladies out there that will gladly see you and handle their business appropriately. If anything bringing theses issues to light will help Kate in the long run and hopefully help other ladies dot their i's and cross their t's a little better.

I don't see any malice in Danny's question. Inquiring minds would want to know.

Below is the post..Paypal or no Paypal the issue is LACK OF COMMUNICATION from Kate Frost..And trust me there will probably be more guys coming out that this has happened to recently based on the backchanneling I am getting..Kate Frost may be a great fuck but it looks like she cannot manage her money and to her the money only goes one way (to her!)..Again below is the post from the poster and I am still waiting to hear Kate's response..


"Without going into great detail, which I have posted previously some time ago, I had a similar experience with Kate Frost, one of my all time favorites who, due to a booking through an agency that conflicted with our scheduled meeting, canceled on me. We spoke on the phone and she was apologetic, and offered me a full refund of the half session deposit she had insisted I wire her. I was of course disappointed, but things happen and she seemed sincere about the refund. Of course,that was just wishful thinking on my part. Once she left my town she ceased all communications with me, completely ignoring my emails to her and her then assistant. Years later, I have yet to see a dime of the deposit. The only good thing to come out of the experience is that I had the pleasure of spending time with Dru Berrymore instead, who is quite a remarkable woman. Caveat Emptor!"

Just like Danny said I'm pretty sure there will be more incidents like this coming out the wood works.  So it'll be interesting to see what will transpire out of this.

Yes, the incident did happen a few years ago now. It was not back in the dark ages before paypal or electricity, or "other secure methods of payment." Kate was on tour with Dru Berrymore and made a rare stop to my city. Since Kate has always been one of my favorite Porn Stars, I jumped at the chance to see her. I deposited the money into her account as requested, which I believe is more than her current discount rate (Tho I'm sure it's no longer active, I still have the account number). Things didn't work out, and I didn't get to meet her. I understand that. I was disappointed, but it happens. I emailed her, called her then assistant, and made every effort short of small claims court, to get her to refund the money. In the beginning, she promised she'd do so, eventually she just stopped acknowledging my emails and calls altogether. If you search the forum here, you'll see that I've posted about this matter several times over the years to no avail. Finally I just gave up hope that she'd do the right thing. I do keep holding out hope that she'll come through. Hell, even now I'd still love to spend time with her, whatever her hair color. She is damn hot. But I won't be giving her another cash deposit ever again.

Because I would exposed the lady's name.. Ray is in fantasy land if he thinks he will get his money back..Last thing she told him was "My check will not clear until the 15th so I will pay you than"..PUHHLEEASSE I may have just gotten of the bus but I was surely looking out the window..LOL..

Again I am not saying do not see these deadbeat girls all I am saying is for the ones like Kate Frost if they ask you to wire you the money before the appointment than make sure you know the girl's history..Just like if a guy has a history of giving girls fake money than I would suspect the girl would want to know before hand..

Danny

You raise any number of good points but your credibility on the subject is in question given that a week ago you said you would announce publicly here on this Board if the PSE that kept your deposit did not return it to you.  All indications are that she has not returned it to you but you have not followed through in publicly calling the PSE out as you said you would.  In so doing, you are:  (1) enabling her to continue doing what she's doing; (2) telling her its okay to jerk you around because you aren't really going to do anything about it; and (3) putting other TER members at risk who might book her because you failed to disclose her name.

This same question was asked above and you've ignored it, so I'll ask it again:  Are you going to disclose the name of the PSE that kept your deposit?  If not, I think an explanation would be in order.

nah, not a white knight....i don't defend girls who purportedly rip off clients, been there, done that...just that obviously my experience was a lot different....was just wondering whether you had an axe to grind and why you felt obligated to be the one to question the provider on the issue...but if the reasons you give are legit, and i have no reason to disbelieve you, then knock yourself out....

And you are not the only one this has happened too based on what I am being told..

Based on what the guys have told me is she will sweet talk you into giving a deposit but if the appointment does not come thru (because of her) she will tell you "oh don't worry you will get your money" and than when you keep asking she is like "stop bothering me"..Like it is wrong to ask for your money back..LOL..

This is why most providers cannot make it in the real world because in the real world you have accountability and these girls are not used to that and do not want to hear it..I always laugh when I read "I am retiring because of a new business venture or career"..than a year later "Hey guys I am back and I missed you so much"..LOL

So hopefully the next guy who she begs for a deposit he will do a search of Kate Frost..

Danny

Kate;

I strongly urge you to respond & clear up the issue about the deposit.

If you look at the length of the below thread, it is taking on a life of it's own.

I am not taking sides. But the longer this goes on the more damage it will do.

Just my .02