Why is it that some porn stars rates are 300-500 for a half-hour appt, and others are 900-1000? I thought that we were in a recession. Some of these girls should lower their rates for members of their sites as well.

Agencies. The answer is the Agencies.

nycad

Two things going on here: 1) supply and demand and 2) individual preference.  I've gotten to be pretty good friends with a number of the ladies, all of whom have different priorities and approaches to the business.  Some would rather keep their rates higher, knowing that they may work less but finding this tends to lead to a better regular clientele.  There's also the issue of once the word is out that your rates have been lowered, it's difficult to ever get the higher rate again.  Anyone who escorts on a regular basis in a city like LA knows that it's a buyer's market but some are still unwilling to compromise below a certain rate.  That's the beauty of this site: you can find someone in your price range here who will do just about whatever you want!  That doesn't translate to all of them being willing to do what you want for a price you believe is reasonable!

If the going rate for a vid shoot in Los Angeles is 300 to 600 for a few hours of work, for a non-superstar, and maybe max 1500 for a bigger name, per scene would could be DT, DP, gangbang or whatever.......
Why are some of their agents posting here for 1200 for one hour?
Thoughts?

The problem here is everyone keep on treating it like its coke vs pepsi or something like that. These are people. There rates are what they want them to be and there is no laws that come up with these rates. Sorry I just gotta vent because im sick of these why does this person charge this much. Because they want to. That should be all thats necessary. Just like why will you only pay so much for a certain person. Because you want to. I by no means pay the highest prices for girls, but I can certainly understand why some ask for it. Its not for any of us to really agree or disagree. When they come out with fuck robots and they are priced differently then we can complain until that time we need to stfu.

Dude.  Chill out.  It's all about business.  Jeez, you are way to personal.  By the way, they are fuck robots for a buck.  That's what you are buying and we are the customers, so we can bitch about prices and can complain all we want.  It's just business.

Girls and Agencies can charge what they wish.  It is up to you the consumer to vote with your pocket.  If we the hobbiests pay what some consider exhorbant rates, then the talent will continue to keep those rates, even in an enviroment where the per scene rate is currently $500-800 for those girls who can get work. If we stopped paying those $1000 plus per hour rates two things will happen:  Girls rates will come down, or they will stop providing.   Quit bitching about high prices and girls that charge two grand for a session that is one pop and cbj.  Do not patronize these ladies if you have an issue with their rates.  If you have no problem with this then continue to fork over your hard earned cash and rates will stay where they are.  Set your ceiling for what you think is fair and stick to it.

For the porn industry.. if the rate is 500 a scene, and the actress refuses, they can get another actress. I don't know if a big star in porn sells units like they used to. Since porn is the "source" and there's only one porn industry in the USA, they have to accept the rate or not work. Plus, everyone on the set can find everyone else rather easily if there's a problem with payment or anything else.

As for us (the hobbyist), there's a risk involved going one on one, there's travel and hotel involved, and if you throw in an agency that has to do the screening the cost goes up.

Would I pay $4G for one hour with Briana Banks? No. Why? Because I have no idea what I (me vs. anyone else) would be getting. Ultimately, if a provider charges X and she can't get X, then her price is too high, regardless of who she is.

The answer is simple. Some girls are doing quite well in porn so for them its not worth seeing anyone for less than 1K. For others, they are struggling so they lower their rates/charge less. Why do you think the top porn stars charge more than the ones who are less famous? Because they can afford to.

The whole agencies argument is bull shit. There are plenty of girl who book indy who still charge near the 1K range and when they get a job through an agency, they charge 1350. So the girl takes home 1K regardless and sometimes the agency will take 350.

Play in the sandbox you can afford to play in. Complaining about girls who charge more than you are willing to pay is not going to get you to fuck them.

How many of you would do your job for more $$$ if someone was willing to pay? When was the last time you turned down a raise because you didn't think your work deserved to be paid that much for? give me a fucking break! If you can't afford it, so be it.

Whatever the reason, girls are shy they can't rep themselves, they can't negotiate, the indies do charge less than the "alleged" provider agencies.
Keep in mind these are not talent agencies, they wont book providers. the ones posting here are provider agency reps, doubling the fee of what the provider would charge if you met her in a supermarket in los angeles.

Uh, you might want to look at your approach. Seriously, that's pretty gauche.

There's a melon joke here...

And it took me a while but I got it..99% of the ladies have a sliding scale..In other words they will charge one guy $1,000 and than another guy $500..

I have proof of this because there was a girl about 2 years ago who charged me 1k and than my friend who by coincidence was seeing her for $500..When she found out that we knew each other she said "Please don't tell him what I charge you because he pays me double"..

When I stopped seeing her she called me and I just said "hey my budget is only $400 so I am going to see someone else"..She came back with "I will see you for $400"..

I can count one hand the girls who can charge every scene or client 1k+..

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I agree what steakguy said, the various agencies add their cut on top of the ladies fee. If you must use an agency though, shop around. Most of the ladies work through multiple agencies and you might be surprised to see how much the rates can vary from one agency to another.

Because given the high unemployment rate and the stories coming out of the industry about how no one is working much and those that do have to lower their rates one would think that the rates for this area would come down.

In some cases they have, but you still have agencies charging the same prices they were charging before the recession and many independents doing the same.

So perhaps the agencies and independents don't actually want to be successful, they don't really care about what their doing, or maybe it's ego and they just can't bring themselves to lowering the rates even if it costs them a tremendous amount of money.

Whatever the reason or reasons might be, they appear to have nothing to do with economic reality.

Bottom line. Stick to your guns guys and if the gals want to charge exorbitant rates and you can't afford it - plain and simple, move on to more affordable companions.

It's simple, I've said this before. If a gal doesn't mind the phone ringing that much and she doesn't want to work that much she'll keep her rates jacked up, If she wants to keep a steady flow she'll be reasonable with her rates. The smart ladies take a good look at the economy and they can read how good or bad things are and they adjust accordingly. It's the carnal stock market folks. It goes up and it goes down. Instead of bitching about how high some ladies prices are, do your research and you'll probably find what you're looking for. It might not be spot on what you are looking for, but you'll find something that works for your libido and wallet.

nycad

Porn is legal, escorting is not... and she knows who she's going to be fucking on a porn shoot.

In my limited experience EVERY girl will take $500 for a direct encounter if she is comfortable with you.

How you get her compfortable with you is a whole other question, with as many answers as girls.

There are exceptions.  But not many.  IMHO.

But seriously, how much time do you have to invest in getting that rate.  It is easier often to just call and agency and say I wanna see "X" and my budget it $700.  Can you make it happen.

nycad

I'd even go with "most" girls may go for $500 if they're "comfortable" with you but there are some who have minimums above that who are highly unlikely to go below.  These girls are usually the bigger names, been in the industry a while and realize that if word gets out that they're available for a lower rate it can become very difficult to get much above that.  Kevin also introduces the variable of "being comfortable."  That can certainly affect things but that just doesn't happen, you're going to have to spend time, energy or money to get there.  More importantly, it's been my experience that this has to happen naturally.  If you try to force it, it won't happen!

Your limited experience is not like everyone else's exeperience in this hobby.  

It s true that you can get a porn star to see you at a lower rate just because she feel comfortable with you.  But in order to get to that "comfortable" state, you have to invest a lot of time and effort.
I got my benefits from going to porn star features at the local strip clubs, the various star signing at adult stores and going to Erotica LA. The more I attended these events was when several porn stars started remembering me and then offering to hang out or getting a bite to eat after their stage shows. The discounts when then offered.  

That was only several years back and it has all changed nowadays. Porn Stars do not feature regularly, they have very limited exposure time at conventions and simply, they don't want to "hang" with their fans like it was done in the past.  

It is still possible to get that "comfortable" stage doing what I used to do but those venues do not have the same energy for me anymore.  I am more into booking the one on one session now with a lady or ladies with reasonable rates for PSE.

I will simply suggest, maybe guys are not asking.  I ask.  The answer is usually yes.  They are not offended by a 500 offer.

But, again, who has the time to get comfortable.  If you really wanna see someone, pay the agency rate.  Then get their direct contact info once they know you.

I actually have a bit more information on this subject than I am willing to state publicly.  YOu can believe me or disbelieve me.  It's all good.  But I submit to you that with the exception of, oh, perhaps 30 girls, they will take 500 for a direct contact date.  Believe it.  Disbelieve it.  

Many, many, many guys are afraid to ask.  The see an agency list them at 1800 and figure, well, that answers that.

No.  It does not.

The price is the price.  I've taken the position that if I can'f afford it, I move on.  Might be helpful advice for others too.  I think the guy who's paying $1200 for an hour is crazy.  The guy who thinks $300 is a lot thinks I'm crazy for paying $500.  And the guy cruising the local street action spots thinks we're all crazy.

I had a conversation with a hot porn star one time, great looking great service- who was 500- she knew the girls who charged 1000 1,500 and said she could do that to, but then she would be sitting around a lot not getting a lot of appointments