my best answer is that this is something you should not consider either discussing or performing at all, at least not in this hobby situation.

I apologize if this topic was posted before but I wanted to ask:  

Presuming that one got tested at a reputable testing agency and was able to produce a clean bill of health, what are the general views on seeing providers BB? I mean, would it be unreasonable to ask this of a lady upon meeting? Is this something that is best discussed prior to booking?  

Thanks for any help you guys might give!  

Best,

ES

BB is something that happens rather regularly in this hobby and IMO, it's not the safest practice.

For example, even if both people are tested and bring the paperwork to the session, it's not a sealed deal that both, hobbyist and provider are clean.  What if one contracted something before testing and the test was not able to pick up on it?  What if the paperwork is a week or two old and something had been contracted within those couple of weeks?  I'm not just talking about HIV either, there are a host of nasty things you can pick up and bring home with you.  

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning the people who do practice this, I just think there are two many holes for it to be as safe as some on here believe it to be.

Never fails, whenever this topic comes up, you'll always get the self righteous know it alls telling you what to do....And as ive stated previously, most of the angst on this topic comes from the angry/bitter sour grapes crowd....These are the people who think BB is ok when they engage in it, but heaven f-ing forbid when someone else does it...

I've clearly stated what i think before (on this topic), and im crystal christ f-ing clear on the appts i book...And im not going to pen a NYT length editorial asking for anyone's permission or accecptance either....

Some people are obessed with telling others what to do, to them, power is like an addictive drug or stimulant...

Passing judgment is the American way (for some at least)..

Leave. Find a civvie girlfriend. Get both yourselves tested. Have monogamous sex. Do not, repeat DO NOT come back here until you completely understand how to use protection and are committed to doing so.

regarding what you are inquiring about, ANY type of "special" request should be discussed and agreed on in advance.  Whether it be greek, CIM, golden showers, anything out of the "ordinary" should be known to both of you in advance.

You don't want to be showing up and then start asking her to do things that she refuses to do or may be very uncomfortable with or trying to figure out what you are going to be doing.  Seems like that could be a very awkward moment for both of you

Who would've been a ps except for the small equipment and heinousness.

Luckily, these girls desperately need money.  

Yeah, you can get herpes and hepatitis if you like. It's a free country.

The board is rendering its view to a newbie. We know about your extensive experience with flesh on flesh.

Where were you in the 80s? You could've helped spread the HIV a little faster. Lol.

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As am I free to avoid those ladies like the plague.

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Lumping all the risks together is moronic. Kissing and using public toilet seats do not equal bb sex with polygamous unprotected partners.  

Sorry, being a Bond girl doesn't qualify you to render opinions on  STD risk, however cutely sarcastic.  

No one said the risk was zero with a condom but the risk-benefit for enjoying myself is positive with a cover and negative without.  

Caveat emptor.

but then again, plenty of cowards in America, so here is no different....

As far as your stupid comment in the first line, never had "star" aspirations....And BTW, i definitely don't have small equipment...I'm also 155 lbs soaking wet on a 5'10 frame, not a fatso like you. or most other hobbyists....

I'm probably healthier than you, certainly thiner, & 100% drug free to, which from the looks of your post, you are not....

In any event, I hope you get ALS...

Always the same replies, blah blah alias coward,when a loser gets called out.  

Well, thank god you made some money to enjoy this hobby. Dumb--a. Lol.

I have no issue with anyone who wants to go BB - more power to 'em. But, keep in mind, that you're still playing a form of Russian Roulette when you do. Yeah, you can lower the odds, but you're still taking a chance. It's your money and your well-being and no one else's business. Would I go BB personally? Nope, but that's my choice. As going BB is yours.

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Thanks for all the viewpoints and opinions guys - really appreciated.  

I should have framed my question more tactfully - for which I apologize. I was asking what the likelihood of that happening, that's all. It was more an analytic question than anything else. I didn't mean to kick a hornet's nest of any kind!

BB is done between porn stars.  Porn stars are no more disease free than hobbyists.  BB with any provider becomes rapidly high risk after they do it a few times.  It's not just HIV, which is much more rare than other STDs.  There are other things, like HPV (which caused actor Michael Douglas' throat cancer, which he now disputes and possibly actress Farrah Fawcett's anal cancer), hepatitis, etc.  A sad fact of life.

WIth all due respect, as you seem like a nice gal...

I think we all can agree that this is a numbers game and the numbers significantly rise against you when one or both persons are having unprotected sex with numerous people.  So that post is rather silly.

I would love to know what my providers feel like. The warmth and wetness, and the full wrap of her flesh on my cock. That amazing feeling of injecting her insides with hot come...its amazing.  This happens regularly in the pornographic industry and they process is simple testing. Companies like anylabtestnow can test you and youll get the results within 24 hours so in theory you could both take the 8 panel std test the day before the appointment with the provider and if all is clear then put your fears away and have fun. Mistakes do happen but for the most part, the efforts we make to protect ourselves is ussually enough to keep us alive and healthy. While bad luck can happen, its mostly stupid mistakes and bad  choices that manifest bad luck. Lastly, if you have a special someone outside of all this, you should never go bb. Thats being responsible.

Ok people, enough already....BB happens in this hobby ALL THE FUCKING TIME...Pun Intended.  Some here are more outspoken about it than others....GREAT!!!  If a hobbyist wants to take this aspect of the hobby on, and is willing to go the extra mile and get tested RIGHT BEFORE said appts, NO DIFFERENT than Adult Industry Professionals do, then this is the SAFEST possible way to do it.

Sure, keeping covered is definitely safer, but that is NOT the topic here.  I have performed in Porn before, not ashamed to say it....did I perform BB, YEP....Was I tested days before, and were the ladies I shot with, YEP.....point being made, if your going to do BB, get tested, make sure your partner is tested, and thats about the safest way you can do BB.....Personally, I have felt more comfortable doing BB with a Porn girl than someone I have met in my civvy life (been a long time since I have done BB there btw, always covered) for the first time.

If you have trouble with the concept that this happens, get a new hobby....if you just simply want to state your opinion without going nuclear on why YOUR opinion is the only way to go, than state it...if not, bring it to the Political board and air it out.

To the OP...if this is what you seek, it should ALWAYS be discussed up front, and you should look up the places that the lady is comfortable with for testing, Talent Testing or Cutting Edge are the 2 industry places...some have their own personal preference, so ask the lady.

Cheers