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Usually I vote third party as usually those on the big tickets are so toxic. I am still undecided on who vote for as the third party candidates look as clueless as the big parties. So give me your best elevator pitch on why I should vote for your clown. At this point I am thinking either way we are fucked and not in a fun way. As of right now I see no upside other then at least it isn't the other guy.  

-- Modified on 8/25/2020 11:32:56 PM

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 31 reads
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whoever.  
1. should vote for Trump because it's customary to have a president serve two terms. He need to do his second term.  
After that he might be the first President to serve more than two. But we will see about that when the time comes.  

2. Then there is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJGI1d96Ns

Now I could start another message but here it is:  
Two killed one hurt at the riots (so far). I admire their willingness to fight and die for their convictions.  
But everything starts over the death of somebody. Then the riots start and a few others die and they go without becoming  famous or anything. Some are victims that are found burned in a burned building. I don't get it. Don't their lives matter.  
If it's a policeman then it gets celebrated. What about the hurt and maimed?  
Only the main character killed by the police becomes famous, a symbol and a saint. But why? I never understood that.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 27 reads
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FDR served three full terms and was elected to a fourth, but died in office and Truman took over, so Trump would not be the first.  However, the Constitution was amended after that to limit a President to  two terms.  If we had the same rule for Congressional Representatives, the swamp would drain itself.  

Steve_Trevor 22 reads
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But if you’re going to base your vote for President on an elevator pitch from someone on a fuck board, you’re the clueless one.

Just take a few hours over the next few weeks to read and listen to the candidates, and also read up on their track records, because past actions are the best predictor of future behavior. Then vote for the candidate whom you believe is closest to your values and what you expect in a President, and who has the skills, experience, and temperament for the job and seems to have the interests of the American people as his first priority.  

scoed 8 Reviews 28 reads
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Honestly, I have read many comments on this board and most hear are clueless political hacks that are so full of hate  
of the other side they can't see the forest because of the trees. I am not going to decide based on this thread on who I vote for. I just want to see if a single person here can form a single logical thought on why they support who they support. I have my doubts.

So please take you logical, reasonable approach and apply it to your vote, but leave me to getting a laugh at those can't see beyond political lines. Both sides are so toxic that neither are worthy of a vote. On one side we have Trump who's idea of leadership is calling people a cow and on the other side we have a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia. I actually wondering if either side can honestly defend their candidate. Seriously was there no potted plants of age out there? I am wondering.

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Steve_Trevor 15 reads
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should I or anyone take time to respond to a self-proclaimed troll.

This election is a serious matter.  Literally, many lives depend on the outcome.  So go get your jollies someplace else.  I’m glad to help educate undecided voters, but I try not to feed trolls.  

scoed 8 Reviews 19 reads
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But as far as you ripping the left as much as the right, your rage has obviously blinded you. Every post you bash someone or something on the right. It is kinda like you are trying to be a meme of an angry leftist. I am thinking this is am act. It has to be. No one is this one note. But at least your entertaining.

Anyway thanks for the correction on my grammar. It definitely is a weakness of mine.

inicky46 61 Reviews 45 reads
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Have you been lurking here for fun prior to your recent "trolling?" That's all just fine with me, BTW, but I'd just like to know. Because the statement is simply not factually correct. Sometimes Laffy posts to agree with me. Is that a crime against nature?

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 27 reads
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...about Joe Biden that he's "...a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia."

 
What proof do you have?  Put up or shut up.  Look at your words I quoted above.  That is an EXACT quote of the words you used.  You omitted two words in that short phrase.  I remember your early posts on TER.  They were 75% illiterate.  
I complimented you when your writing improved, but judging by the quote above you're still 25% illiterate.  I don't think you're in any position to judge whether Joe Biden is  "...a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia."
To me, your writing indicates that YOU are in the early stages of dementia.

 
Don't pretend you're a neutral observer if you make comments like that.

scoed 8 Reviews 38 reads
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Most of my opinion of you is from your tirades on the GD board. And I do agree those who use violence to protest hurt their cause. Biden's failure to condemn the riots is major factor in my not wanting to vote for him. I am a supporter of politics reform and accountiblity but part of me hopes reforms don't happen until after the riots stop.  

As for me being a partisan hack... well maybe. Can you tell me what party I am a hack for. Last election I voted for candidates from 4 different parties and a few independents including both the Democrat and the Republican party candidates last presidential election. Also I had name removed from the Republican party because of the corruption I found there. I have donated money to the campaign to candidates I believe in both on the Democratic and Republican sides. So maybe I am a partisan hack, but if I am someone needs to inform me being a partisan hack for.

I guess I am heavily libertarian leaning. So maybe that is who I am a hack for. You win again.

gentleguy1020 38 Reviews 30 reads
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You wrote
 “On one side we have Trump who's idea of leadership is calling people a cow” and  
“on the other side we have a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia”
Your own observation about Trump is negative and is an affirmation. (IS)
Your own observation about Biden is negative and is a speculation. (LOOKS LIKE)
Are you with me here?
I will always vote against an affirmed negative than a speculative one.
Shouldn’t you?

P.S. My above response generously assumes everything you wrote are correct. I don’t agree with half of it of course!

inicky46 61 Reviews 15 reads
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I've followed his posts on TER for years and he definitely leans right. That said, he at least TRIES to keep an open mind and not roll in the gutter or sling mud. Unlike CaCa and others he does NOT set out to torture the truth and flat-out lie just to win an argument.  On the General Board where he usually posts, his ideas and experience are usually helpful.
So, yes, I think he's wrong here and his Biden dementia slur was both wrong and thoughtless. But I'm not about to name-call him for it.
And, no, I'm not telling you or anyone else what to say.
FWIW.

scoed 8 Reviews 27 reads
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I am opposed to both the Democrat and Republican parties on a national level. I used talking points from both parties. Both parties on my estimation are utterly corrupt. I am not neutral. I just lack anyone worth even remotely supporting. As for proof. Look when they dropped those streamers when he was officially nominated.  

No matter who wins the nation loses. But I am not neutral, of anything I am anti-everyone. Truth be told I was hoping someone would be able to point out at least one upside for voting for there guy. All I hear from the Dems is Trump is the source of all evil and all I hear from Trump supporters Dems are evil and Trump is the one responsible for every good thing ever. Both sides scare the living shit out of me.  

I am honestly looking who to vote for. Honestly right now I am leaning towards Trump. Biden can't even address the riots and condemn them. If Biden acts like he sees the world is burning because Democrat supporting people are largely responsible and condemns it in a real way he can prove he isn't the out of touch geriatric the right paints him to be.  

I am not remotely neutral. I just don't have a side. I have a great deal of anger addressed to both candidates.

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I am most closely aligned with the libertarians. I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I  am so upset with both sides. I  angry. And I am tired of the lies. Neither side owns their shit. I want to vote for someone. I can't I can only vote against the greater evil. I  am not sure who that is. Normally I avoid the bowels of political stupidity, but today I  bored and angry. Mostly angry.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 23 reads
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Then there's nothing here for you. Continue to third party. That's the best I can tell you

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 21 reads
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...about Trump is that he called someone a cow.  After almost four years in office, that's the worst thing you can say about Trump???  Yet your anger of Biden compelled you to say he has dementia.

 
Somehow I don't think you're as upset with Trump as you say you are if all you can criticize him for is calling someone "a cow."  Try thinking a little harder and using your "anger" at Trump to come up with more substantial criticism like you did of Biden.  Then I may believe you when you say: "I  am so upset with both sides. I  angry."

inicky46 61 Reviews 48 reads
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might have been incited, in part, by Trump's violence-stoking language? And do you really think that's comparable to Biden mangling a phrase or two? Especially when Trump lapses into incoherence all the time.
Describing them as in any way comparable is massively ignorant.

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But I am not supporting Trump. Every time I attacked Biden I attacked Trump. You feel Biden has more empathy then Trump? Maybe. That would not be hard. But where is his empathy to those whose lives have been destroyed by the riots? I don't think either has an ounce of empathy or decency. Cities burns because of those who are likely to vote for him and he says nothing. That is why I turned from Biden.  

I said I would never vote for Trump. I meant it. A few months ago Biden had my vote by default. Biden lacks compassion for all those whose lives are being ruined because peaceful protesters aren't remotely peaceful. But then again neither does Trump. All he wants to do is capitalize on the inaction of the lefts leaders. Fuck them all.

Yes, I have a side. My side is to say fuck them all. No one is on side, so I am. Fuck those lying ass politicians in Washington on both sides. I am only learning towards Trump because he at least calls a riot a God damn riot. But I know a vote for Trump is a vote for a lying con. But a vote for Biden is a vote for someone willing to turn a blind eye to evil. Lose lose.  

I will give you credit you are the first to actually list a reason to vote for either of them. That is something. I think on this thread I have pissed everyone on both sides. Honestly I am hoping for a third party choice that doesn't suck.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 25 reads
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A vote for either is a vote for part of the cause of the evil. Hell I  am part of the cause of this evil. The hate both feeds is is the cause of this evil. This whole us vs them is the cause. Both side feed it. Both side have done it for years. Longer then I  been alive. That is the truth. None of us are  innocent who get angry at those who disagree with them. I am as guilty as they come. I have no candidate in this race, yet I sown anger just the same. I am so angry. I  part of the cause of the evil.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 24 reads
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I can give a good reason to vote for Trump ... he hasn't started a new war in four years.  (This is the same reason the war caucus wants to get rid of him.)  And he doesn't seem to be trying to start one anywhere either.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 32 reads
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He's from Fucking Utah. trump swamp land...But he could vote third party, his vote is useless so it don't mean shit to anyone.

scoed 8 Reviews 40 reads
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They lie there asses off every time they pander to the small government crowed. I have no party. And I said I was leaning towards voting for Trump. But I do not want to. I am still undecided.  

And I owe you an apology. I have been an ass to you. I haven't lied, but I have been insulting. As I said I am part of the problem.

scoed 8 Reviews 37 reads
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He lacks any integrity. He is arrogant to the extreme. He would have been in jail in 2016 instead of running for office (but so should have Hilary). He is slimy.  And he is an epic failure in the president's main job unifying the nation. There is no upside to voting Trump. He honestly rinds me of the bullies who used to beat on me on highschool. And while Pelosi rushed the impeachment and failed to make a sold case I not entirely convinced a real case for impeachment could have been made if the house actually did there job and took the time to go through the courts to call witnesses. The man is a nightmare.

I toned it down on Trump as Trump supporters haven't really been on this thread. I honestly feel no matter who wins America loses. Actually I have been toning down my feelings about both candidates. I really strongly dislike both of them. I can't bring a single thing positive thing to say about either. Well other then Trump at least calls a riot a riot. Weakest upside ever. If Biden gets the balls to do that he will have my vote. For the first time ever I am thinking of just leaving ballot question for president blank.  

A vote for Trump is a vote for ego, lies, divisiveness and corruption. A vote for Biden is a vote for riots, cancel culture, and negitivity. Great choices all. And none of the Third party candidates look any better.

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And done billions in damages. He has yet to condemn it. I watch his convention he never even once asked for it to stop.

I support peaceful protesters. But peaceful protesters do not light buildings and cars on fire. Peaceful protesters don't vandalize. Peaceful protesters don't throw things and commit assault. Peaceful protesters do not loot. Peaceful protesters don't kill. Yet Biden calls the rioters peaceful protesters. Why because they will all vote for him. As the face of the left he has the power to calm the violence. Yet he double talks about it and never calls it out.

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And I admit my state will vote Trump. My vote doesn't count much as I am not in a battle ground state. The last time my state was on play was in the 1970s.

I haven't lied once though. I have not divided who I will vote for. Three months ago I was leaning towards Biden. Now I lean towards Trump. I am still hoping a third party will present a better option.  I could switch back to Biden if he pulls his head out of his ass and shows actual leadership about the riots. But I also admit my vote will matter next to nothing. My vote does matter to me though. I am not nobody.

inicky46 61 Reviews 27 reads
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This time with a bunch of blatant grifters and hacks who have been stealing everything in sight.

inicky46 61 Reviews 56 reads
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And it was easy to find the proof. All you needed to do was use Google. If you're going to be this lazy about researching about your views why should ANYONE respect them?
Here's Fox from May. Try cutting and pasting this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-condemns-riots-over-george-floyd-death-calls-for-end-to-needless-destruction
And here's The Hill from yesterday. Just click on it.

inicky46 61 Reviews 45 reads
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I pointed out above that he HAS, both at the end of May and as recently as a day ago. The fact that you're too lazy to look for it notwithstanding.
And you have continued to repeat the lie that Biden hasn't spoken forcefully on this issue. Why do you keep doing it? Is it just that you're too lazy to check? Or is it because your default judgement is to believe anything negative about a Democrat? Either way, you've shown your ignorance.
Another article with Biden condemning violent protests:

gentleguy1020 38 Reviews 30 reads
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Seriously though uninformed people like you shouldn’t vote.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 29 reads
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you might still be on the fence.  Now you will be smothered in Dem bullshit.  Just remember that 59% of ALL Americans don't think Biden will serve out his term if elected, so its really Trump versus Kamala Harris, who's voting record in the Senate is to the LEFT of Bernie Sanders.  Do you really want a California LIB as Prez?  The Dems have gone to extremes here to regulate every aspect of our lives.  

 
The latest Lib craziness is that in the University of California system they are outlawing  plastic straws, plastic bags and plastic eating utensils in the university food service facilities.  So here we are in the middle of Covid-19, and our college students have to HOPE that the minimum-sage kitchen workers are properly washing and sterilizing food prep equipment and eating utensils, when plastic disposables are so much safer.  This is just an example of the lunacy here, and Kamala Harris is the poster child for this movement. She will insure that the nation follows what California has been doing and climate change will be the number one goal of a Harris administration. Some say Joe will resign weeks or months after be sworn in.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 55 reads
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Now I don't know your financial, business, family situation so I can't get into a full policy thing with you. But in your everyday personal life. do these characteristics matter when deciding on the CEO of our country?
1- Character-Do you tolerate a liar, cheater (I don't mean infidelity, that's for him and his wife),Whiner and the constant complaining and playing the "I'm the victim".NEVER taking responsibility and NEVER accepting that the "Buck Stops Here" mentality. Yes this is trump.
2-Leadership-Do you want someone who can unite and fix this divided nation? Work both sides for the common good? Sorry this isn't trump. Some who can restore out place in the world and not have us as the laughing stock, where other countries actually "Pity" us. As evident by this pandemic we've learned that trump isn't a man of the moment, devoid of any leadership. Not taking the bull by the horn and making decisive decision. He just isn't cut out to handle a crisis, it's not in him. So in that regard, he can't lead.  
If you had a 7yo, would you want trump to be a role model for your child or grandchild.
There's more but you get the ideal. His policies depending on what you want as a future for this country have pretty much sucked.
Take this from the reasonable poster on this board...So vote third party or not...it's up to you

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