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Steve_Trevor 16 reads
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should I or anyone take time to respond to a self-proclaimed troll.

This election is a serious matter.  Literally, many lives depend on the outcome.  So go get your jollies someplace else.  I’m glad to help educate undecided voters, but I try not to feed trolls.  

Usually I vote third party as usually those on the big tickets are so toxic. I am still undecided on who vote for as the third party candidates look as clueless as the big parties. So give me your best elevator pitch on why I should vote for your clown. At this point I am thinking either way we are fucked and not in a fun way. As of right now I see no upside other then at least it isn't the other guy.  

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whoever.  
1. should vote for Trump because it's customary to have a president serve two terms. He need to do his second term.  
After that he might be the first President to serve more than two. But we will see about that when the time comes.  

2. Then there is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJGI1d96Ns

Now I could start another message but here it is:  
Two killed one hurt at the riots (so far). I admire their willingness to fight and die for their convictions.  
But everything starts over the death of somebody. Then the riots start and a few others die and they go without becoming  famous or anything. Some are victims that are found burned in a burned building. I don't get it. Don't their lives matter.  
If it's a policeman then it gets celebrated. What about the hurt and maimed?  
Only the main character killed by the police becomes famous, a symbol and a saint. But why? I never understood that.

FDR served three full terms and was elected to a fourth, but died in office and Truman took over, so Trump would not be the first.  However, the Constitution was amended after that to limit a President to  two terms.  If we had the same rule for Congressional Representatives, the swamp would drain itself.  

This time with a bunch of blatant grifters and hacks who have been stealing everything in sight.

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But if you’re going to base your vote for President on an elevator pitch from someone on a fuck board, you’re the clueless one.

Just take a few hours over the next few weeks to read and listen to the candidates, and also read up on their track records, because past actions are the best predictor of future behavior. Then vote for the candidate whom you believe is closest to your values and what you expect in a President, and who has the skills, experience, and temperament for the job and seems to have the interests of the American people as his first priority.  

Honestly, I have read many comments on this board and most hear are clueless political hacks that are so full of hate  
of the other side they can't see the forest because of the trees. I am not going to decide based on this thread on who I vote for. I just want to see if a single person here can form a single logical thought on why they support who they support. I have my doubts.

So please take you logical, reasonable approach and apply it to your vote, but leave me to getting a laugh at those can't see beyond political lines. Both sides are so toxic that neither are worthy of a vote. On one side we have Trump who's idea of leadership is calling people a cow and on the other side we have a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia. I actually wondering if either side can honestly defend their candidate. Seriously was there no potted plants of age out there? I am wondering.

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should I or anyone take time to respond to a self-proclaimed troll.

This election is a serious matter.  Literally, many lives depend on the outcome.  So go get your jollies someplace else.  I’m glad to help educate undecided voters, but I try not to feed trolls.  

...about Joe Biden that he's "...a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia."

 
What proof do you have?  Put up or shut up.  Look at your words I quoted above.  That is an EXACT quote of the words you used.  You omitted two words in that short phrase.  I remember your early posts on TER.  They were 75% illiterate.  
I complimented you when your writing improved, but judging by the quote above you're still 25% illiterate.  I don't think you're in any position to judge whether Joe Biden is  "...a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia."
To me, your writing indicates that YOU are in the early stages of dementia.

 
Don't pretend you're a neutral observer if you make comments like that.

I am opposed to both the Democrat and Republican parties on a national level. I used talking points from both parties. Both parties on my estimation are utterly corrupt. I am not neutral. I just lack anyone worth even remotely supporting. As for proof. Look when they dropped those streamers when he was officially nominated.  

No matter who wins the nation loses. But I am not neutral, of anything I am anti-everyone. Truth be told I was hoping someone would be able to point out at least one upside for voting for there guy. All I hear from the Dems is Trump is the source of all evil and all I hear from Trump supporters Dems are evil and Trump is the one responsible for every good thing ever. Both sides scare the living shit out of me.  

I am honestly looking who to vote for. Honestly right now I am leaning towards Trump. Biden can't even address the riots and condemn them. If Biden acts like he sees the world is burning because Democrat supporting people are largely responsible and condemns it in a real way he can prove he isn't the out of touch geriatric the right paints him to be.  

I am not remotely neutral. I just don't have a side. I have a great deal of anger addressed to both candidates.

You wrote
 “On one side we have Trump who's idea of leadership is calling people a cow” and  
“on the other side we have a man who looks like is in the early stages dementia”
Your own observation about Trump is negative and is an affirmation. (IS)
Your own observation about Biden is negative and is a speculation. (LOOKS LIKE)
Are you with me here?
I will always vote against an affirmed negative than a speculative one.
Shouldn’t you?

P.S. My above response generously assumes everything you wrote are correct. I don’t agree with half of it of course!

Then there's nothing here for you. Continue to third party. That's the best I can tell you

He's from Fucking Utah. trump swamp land...But he could vote third party, his vote is useless so it don't mean shit to anyone.

And I admit my state will vote Trump. My vote doesn't count much as I am not in a battle ground state. The last time my state was on play was in the 1970s.

I haven't lied once though. I have not divided who I will vote for. Three months ago I was leaning towards Biden. Now I lean towards Trump. I am still hoping a third party will present a better option.  I could switch back to Biden if he pulls his head out of his ass and shows actual leadership about the riots. But I also admit my vote will matter next to nothing. My vote does matter to me though. I am not nobody.

I pointed out above that he HAS, both at the end of May and as recently as a day ago. The fact that you're too lazy to look for it notwithstanding.
And you have continued to repeat the lie that Biden hasn't spoken forcefully on this issue. Why do you keep doing it? Is it just that you're too lazy to check? Or is it because your default judgement is to believe anything negative about a Democrat? Either way, you've shown your ignorance.
Another article with Biden condemning violent protests:

Seriously though uninformed people like you shouldn’t vote.

you might still be on the fence.  Now you will be smothered in Dem bullshit.  Just remember that 59% of ALL Americans don't think Biden will serve out his term if elected, so its really Trump versus Kamala Harris, who's voting record in the Senate is to the LEFT of Bernie Sanders.  Do you really want a California LIB as Prez?  The Dems have gone to extremes here to regulate every aspect of our lives.  

 
The latest Lib craziness is that in the University of California system they are outlawing  plastic straws, plastic bags and plastic eating utensils in the university food service facilities.  So here we are in the middle of Covid-19, and our college students have to HOPE that the minimum-sage kitchen workers are properly washing and sterilizing food prep equipment and eating utensils, when plastic disposables are so much safer.  This is just an example of the lunacy here, and Kamala Harris is the poster child for this movement. She will insure that the nation follows what California has been doing and climate change will be the number one goal of a Harris administration. Some say Joe will resign weeks or months after be sworn in.

Now I don't know your financial, business, family situation so I can't get into a full policy thing with you. But in your everyday personal life. do these characteristics matter when deciding on the CEO of our country?
1- Character-Do you tolerate a liar, cheater (I don't mean infidelity, that's for him and his wife),Whiner and the constant complaining and playing the "I'm the victim".NEVER taking responsibility and NEVER accepting that the "Buck Stops Here" mentality. Yes this is trump.
2-Leadership-Do you want someone who can unite and fix this divided nation? Work both sides for the common good? Sorry this isn't trump. Some who can restore out place in the world and not have us as the laughing stock, where other countries actually "Pity" us. As evident by this pandemic we've learned that trump isn't a man of the moment, devoid of any leadership. Not taking the bull by the horn and making decisive decision. He just isn't cut out to handle a crisis, it's not in him. So in that regard, he can't lead.  
If you had a 7yo, would you want trump to be a role model for your child or grandchild.
There's more but you get the ideal. His policies depending on what you want as a future for this country have pretty much sucked.
Take this from the reasonable poster on this board...So vote third party or not...it's up to you

I can give a good reason to vote for Trump ... he hasn't started a new war in four years.  (This is the same reason the war caucus wants to get rid of him.)  And he doesn't seem to be trying to start one anywhere either.

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