“I never meant to say that Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.”

– John Stuart Mill, in a letter to the Conservative MP, Sir John Pakington, March 1866

Truer words never spoken. Of course not a generality, because look at such contemporary conservative intellectual giants as George Will, Chas Krauthammer, Pat Buchanan, et al. As for this board, , the conservatives have their articulate/cogent coterie : John Galt, DNC phil, Gag, Croix, Timbow, et al. Hell---even PW doesn't bother me------he comes up with some good arguments from time to time-----except when he lapses into priggishness.---

However, despite these exceptions, I find that when it comes to this board, the majority of offensively, uneducated/stupid shit comes from conservatives : FFP, snow,, mrnotrouble,nuguy46 & ( particularly ) Liorr. I don't mind them pushing a conservative agenda at all; it's just that they do it in such an offensively DUMB manner, that irritates me.

Why does this "mindset" prevail ? The link below might furnish some answers.

OK, back to my hiatus.




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If you follow politics closely enough, it's pretty easy to debate a conservative. They only think in talking points.

You've heard 'em. "The constitution says freedom of religion, not freedom from religion"

or

"the bible says Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"

or

"Obama's doubled the national debt"

or

"Saddam's WMDs were shipped to Syria"

or

"tax cuts bring in more tax revenue"

These are all pretty simple-minded ideas. In fact, it's often quite adorable to see one of these dumb shit conservatives actually attempt to use their own grey matter. It's like the wheel is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

All you gotta do to confuse them is to introduce them to information they don't have. They never have the wherewithal to counter such an argument, because all of their mental processes are being used up to take in the new information without going into complete melt-down.

being a "conservative" or a "liberal." Nor could there be as these terms are so vague as to have little measurable meaning.

     Further,  many persons such as myself have what would commonly be described as "liberal" positions on some issues and "conservative" positions on others. So your quote from 1866 shows no more than that the speaker really had not thought about his point very thoroughly.

    And I don't consider any off the Board conservatives you name as being "just dumb."

So, mrnt, why don't you fess up & admit to being an "uneducated dumbshit" ? Cmon, confession is good for the soul----

An aside to mari-----John Stuart Mill is considerered to be an intellectual giant of Philosophy; same goes for such conservative titans as Edmund Burke & Wm F Buckley. A pity so many conservatives don't follow the lead of the latter 2 philosophers.

Lastly, mari, you don't consider Liorr to be a uneducated dope ? I think you'll get a spirited debate from many here & on sports about that.

If Liorr were spouting left-wing dogma, I'd be saying the same thing: the guy is a cretin.

in real life merely because you self-identify that way and that is certainly your Board personna?

       You cannot necessarily make a judgment about someone's intelligence or character solely from reading his posts and that is all the evidence we have about our fellow posters.

      You still haven't figured out that Quad, a very intelligent guy, has been playing you for two years with his ninth grade "I'm just a janitor" personna. You struck out completely on Mr. NoTrouble and Pitching Wedge. Maybe Liorr is playing you as well.

      All we know is that he chooses to use the TER boards like Twitter rather than the way we use it. Better sharpen up those "detective skills" before you pronounce half the board as not meeting your IQ standards.

Especially considering that "conservatives" "liberals" etc have changed so much in the ensuing 150 years since this quote to have no relevance whatsoever to the political landscape of today. Except of course to make whiny libs feel superior to the conservative political opponents.

Repeating a political mantra long enough doesn't  make it true, it just makes the repeater of such bullshit look small, petty, and incapable of independent thought, but I am sure that Willy and Pri feel quite intellectually superior by quoting these 150 year old "words of wisdom"

As for Pri, it must be frustrating to be constantly losing a battle of wits to a ninth grade dropout that cleans toilets for a living. No wonder he has to resort to quoting people from almost two centuries before. When you have to reach back that far, your argument must be pretty weak. lmao

NUMEROUS occasions you've said that most of the stupidity on this board emanates from Libs. So let's cut the santicmonious bullshit.

What you said was more accurate when Benlanger, trannyboy, Xiao & Zorff spewed their leftist imbecility here. However, they're gone now & I made a board characterization, same as you've done. Is this a case of "do as I say, but not as I do" ? I say most of board stupidity lately comes from the right. You have a right to say similar sentiments about the left , but, I can't same thing about the right ?

Also the stuff coming from the shit-cleaning Quad (AKA AutoEroticCompulsive )you & Mari, that I'm "being played", "losing battle of wits to 9th grade droput" & am "mocking the successful" falls under the category of Sophistry. If you don't have the time to Google that word, lets try "bullshit" instead.-------



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at least in respect to here, found him to be a quite impartial mod whose tried to inject a semblance of order in this "leper colony" & on a personal level, find him to be quite a decent fellow.

MSH,looks like you have an axe to grind against GaG & have a "feud" going on with him; my differences with him are mainly political, while OTOH, it loos like you have something "personal" against him.


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Issues have changed, but the core of what is liberal philosophy and conservative philosophy has remained very much the same, even going back to 250 years ago.

What's changed more than anything, is where the 2 major political parties fall on the issues. If your average Limbaugh-listening conservative read the words of Madison or Jefferson (without knowing the author), he'd think they were coming from Karl Marx. If they read the words of Benito Mussolini, then they'd think they were reading Jefferson.

i don't know, there are some that are'nt

icki, zisk, i think phil ID's as jewish.

then there's Schultzipus53

A-Hole on steroids

No, I do not think conservatives are dumb.

I do think that conservative politicians play upon the fears of most of their constituents, who in turn rarely seek to challenge the information that they are fed.

I play golf sometimes with a conservative who still believes that Obama is not a US citizen. He also believed Palin would make a great VP and President one day, decrying the "liberal elite media" for demonizing her, right up to the point where she made a reality TV show. Then he fell strangely silent about Palin after that.

Posted By: Priapus53

“I never meant to say that Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.”

– John Stuart Mill, in a letter to the Conservative MP, Sir John Pakington, March 1866

Truer words never spoken. Of course not a generality, because look at such contemporary conservative intellectual giants as George Will, Chas Krauthammer, Pat Buchanan, et al. As for this board, , the conservatives have their articulate/cogent coterie : John Galt, DNC phil, Gag, Croix, Timbow, et al. Hell---even PW doesn't bother me------he comes up with some good arguments from time to time-----except when he lapses into priggishness.---

However, despite these exceptions, I find that when it comes to this board, the majority of offensively, uneducated/stupid shit comes from conservatives : FFP, snow,, mrnotrouble,nuguy46 & ( particularly ) Liorr. I don't mind them pushing a conservative agenda at all; it's just that they do it in such an offensively DUMB manner, that irritates me.

Why does this "mindset" prevail ? The link below might furnish some answers.

OK, back to my hiatus.




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Don't want to work for anything. Want the government to take away from people who have earned. Do not believe in individual rights.

These are characteristics and scumbags, so I would say this is a fair statement.

I mean, since you like to paint with a broad brush, just saying...

The "many here"  never seem to back you up .

Contrary to your belief, your history degree does not make you an intellectual .
Memorizing the past does not bring the clarity  of recognizing the truth.
In my view you portray yourself as a blindly partisan uneducated  fool .

 The "many here"  never seem to back you up .

  It's spelled considered.    Using considered in a sentence.
 You would be better off if you spent more time exercising your own mind without mocking
those who are much more successful than you .

Posted By: Priapus53

So, mrnt, why don't you fess up & admit to being an "uneducated dumbshit" ? Cmon, confession is good for the soul----

An aside to mari-----John Stuart Mill is considerered to be an intellectual giant of Philosophy; same goes for such conservative titans as Edmund Burke & Wm F Buckley. A pity so many conservatives don't follow the lead of the latter 2 philosophers.

Lastly, mari, you don't consider Liorr to be a uneducated dope ? I think you'll get a spirited debate from many here & on sports about that.

If Liorr were spouting left-wing dogma, I'd be saying the same thing: the guy is a cretin.

I have been fooling you all into believing I'm Jewish.  Actually, I'm a Catholic priest who lapsed from homosexuality into craving pussy.  Kinda like a lesbian, except the other way.  I hope I have made myself clear.  Not.  LOL!

should I also reassess my opinion on your assholiness?

Afterall, you said you WERE a Catholic priest?lol

assess value to people.

take for example willy. willy no doubt has a large store of knowledge and can whip out a multi paragraph post citing scientists, charts, history etc, etc, etc. Yet when we get to the meat of the matter, the "so what?", if you will, he falls flat on his face and usually ends up either lying or deflecting. Yet Platipus gets a hardon over willy. and yet most everyone else despises willy. how does that disconnect happen?

i am inarticulate,

at least when comparing the literary quality of what I type to someone like John G.  however I look at the world and quite often come to the same conclusions as John. the difference being he can express himself via the written word much better than i can. that's why he's a writer and i'm a nail pounder. but i used to be in the restaurant business and taught myself construction. my clients are often multimillionaires. am i smarter than pri gives me credit for or are my clients rich stupid people? how many rich stupid people do you know.

we all know the US is going into debt at an unsustainable rate and it is accelaerating under Owhatsanothertrillion? and the socalled "smart people" are voting for Ofuckhead? where does THAT disconnect come from?

The "smart people" know that Obama is by far the lesser of the two "evils" when it comes down to picking a President. In other words, they know that Obama is trying to fix the problems caused by 2 terms' worth of deregulation, which effectively rendered regulators agencies (e.g. SEC, OCC, FFIEC, MMS, etc.) powerless and allowed businesses to have their way at the expense of the national and global economies.

To be fair, the Dems made the same mistake of deregulation back in the 1970s, which in turn led to the Savings & Loans crises of the time.

I can confirm that GaGambler does embody the spirit of "Do as I say, not as I do" with respect to certain activities (vulgarity, taking things personally, etc.). While he is not the only person who embodies that spirit, it is especially noteworthy as he is a volunteer TER mod and possesses certain powers and responsibilities that are not available to the rank and file TER members.

I mention this as it is relevant to the inherent hypocrisy of one's calling out others for certain actions and taking action against them, when one has already performed identical or very similar actions.

Your calling out GaGambler's actions with regards to his actions are no different than my doing so. While my experiences with his impartiality as a mod are quite different from yours, I don't have anything personal against him. I have never said anything derogatory about him.

However, I cannot say the same of him with regards to me, as evidenced by some of the posts that he has written about me. What makes GaGambler's personalizing things even more egregious is that he is a TER mod with official powers and responsibilities. Here are a few of his posts, but I wouldn't want to let the facts get in the way of a good story:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=18&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&SearchType=1&Author=gagamb&DayFrom=300&DayTo=0&MessageID=189473&frmSearch=1#189473

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=189391&boardID=18&page=#189391

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=18&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&SearchType=1&Author=gagamb&DayFrom=300&DayTo=0&MessageID=188678&frmSearch=1#188678

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=18&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&SearchType=1&Author=gagamb&DayFrom=300&DayTo=0&MessageID=188576&frmSearch=1#188576

What I have NEVER done is use a quote from 150 years ago that has no real relevance today to try and prove or even bolster an argument that one side or the other can lay claim to having more idiots.

As for your claim that most of the "board stupidity: of late has been coming from the right. I will confess that I have no idea if that is true or not, and my argument was not with that claim, ti was the ridiculousness of using a meaningless quote from a 150 years ago to "prove" your point. This is the type of crap I would expect from Bill Maher or WillyWonka, you know I hold you to a higher standard as you claim to be TER's "Most objective poster" lol

I will add that I found the last link that referenced GaGambler's quote about putting me at the top of a "to murder" list was in especially poor taste coming from a TER mod, considering how TER's founder was arrested on a "murder for hire" charge and ultimately convicted on assault attempt charges.

Even phil called you out for posting like a retard

Do you deny that you were posting like a retard???

Everyone knew it was phoney in you got called out on it

Then you turn around and whine toa mommy that you're getting picked on

Grow some balls

seems a rather tame descrition of our progressive brothers....compare this to how conservatives are described....pri for instance can't start a 'debate' without envoking the politicis of personal destruction .....does he twitter the pastor of the church of G.D. America to trade remarks???

And your point is?

Most of IL would, if given the chance, secede from Chicago, and join "Jesusland."

and I find very rich people VERY out of touch, and so "educated" they turn into fools..

Money and intelligence are NOT the same thing, look at ALL the elite schools, and tell me what fools are coming out of them..We see the fruits of the Ivy leagues


I very much so disagree with you, I believe the higher "educated" you are by the system, the BIGGER mind slave you become

And I suppose you will also claim that a Chinese quote from thousands of years ago ("A picture is worth a thousand words") also has no real relevance today. Interesting.

you brought it on yourself.

clear?

Brought what on myself? I do not understand what you are saying.

Excellent points. The credit card industry found that their highest sources of interest income (i.e. interest on rollover balances) and fee income (late, overlimit, etc.) were from the higher educated professional segments of society (lawyers, doctors, professors, etc.). As smart as these professionals were in their respective fields, they were not so skilled when it came to managing their own personal finances.

what are you complaining about now?