Trump had claimed the construction would not affect the White House out of respect for its history. Another lie told from the Huckster-in-Chief, who's spending his time focused on building his vanity ballroom instead of reopening the government, but I suppose that's understandable since he doesn't want the Epstein files released. Sad
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHtHAwzZZM

...the new White House ballroom...
"It won't interfere with the current building.  It won't be.  It'll be near it but not touching it -- and pays total respect to the existing building, which I'm the biggest fan of.  It's my favorite.  Its my favorite place.  I love it."
http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ced6np51532o

Having a separate ballroom wouldn’t work in inclement weather.

So, you're saying Trump didn't have the mental acumen to take into account the changing weather conditions with the seasons when he made his claims? That's pretty incompetent.

I love ballrooms.  In fact, my favorite pair of underwear has huge ballroom.  

This thread is about the hypocrisy of Trump saying one thing and doing the opposite.

If you don't take out a wall and rebuild the new space to seamlessly connect and blend in with the existing space, it's going to look like a room addition to a tract home.  Do you really think Trump the real estate developer doesn't know what he's doing?  

You seem to think there are only two explanations, which just isn’t true.

“won’t interfere with the current building,” he means the usefulness and traffic flow within the building, not that there won't be a wall or a bathroom relocated.  At some point the two structures have to be connected.  You don't have to know too much about construction to understand this.   If you look at the artist's renderings that are online, you will see that the roofline and the three sides that are NOT connected to the new building remain unchanged.  The current building shares ONE wall with the new building where they CONNECT.  Obviously, you won't see the space where they connect internally when viewed from the outside.  Why?  Because . . . .  wait for it,  . . . . they are connected!!!!    Is that really so hard for you to understand?

Don't believe your lying eyes.

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expect to see on a remodel job.  The FIRST step is to demo the part of the existing structure that you won't need for the finished project.  You still don't know anything about construction, so you?  

CDL: "You still don't know anything about construction, so you?"  
Do YOU? "won't interfere with "the usefulness and traffic flow within the building, not that there won't be a wall or a bathroom relocated. Or the entire edifice?
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http://archinect.com/news/article/150506025/as-white-house-starts-demolition-for-trump-s-ballroom-architects-discuss-preservation-and-permit-concerns
"... There is heated debate in the architecture and preservation community this week, as news reports on Monday show demolition crews with heavy machinery ***tearing down *****significant***** portions of the White House's East Wing*** (built in 1902) in preparation for President Trump's privately funded $250 million, 90,000-square-foot ballroom expansion first floated earlier this summer. ...
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"For those not familiar with how this was supposed to work when the White House is to be renovated.    

It's a new, additional facility. In Trump's own words on Truth Social, "It will be beautiful…it will be near [the East Wing], but not touching it. And pays total respect to the existing building, which I'm the biggest fan of. It's my favorite." So Trump lied, and you're ignoring/reinterpreting his words. You are right in another sense though and that is he is "remodeling" America [MAGA] by destroying parts of the existing government that get in his way.  

"By Trump’s telling, it will become a space where guests will mingle, sip cocktails and eat hors d’oeuvres until they are called into the ballroom for dinner. Trump said a set of windows in the room will be removed to create a passageway to and from the ballroom." - PBS News

It will totally destroy the architectural integrity and balance of the White House itself. AND it was done without any of the approvals that are required BY LAW for changes to historic national buildings.
We can only hope that some future President will tear it down and restore the White House to its former beauty and architectural integrity. That latter word is NEVER one associated with Trump.

showing us how little you know about the construction biz.  If this is a job that needs to be permitted by the city or county, it would be classed as a remodel because you are altering part of the existing structure in order to expand it's size to incorporate the new construction.  

before altering an historical structure?

Of the WH.  
But I think Trump has a long term goal or agenda here…. And that is
I AIN’T LEAVING …..

Tell me, CDL, why would an excavator be needed to remove a set of windows for a passageway??

banquets, of which a state dinner is considered, there is always a foyer where people gather (and sometimes is the mingle area for cocktails) prior to opening the doors to the ballroom for dinner service.  The East room becomes the foyer to the much larger ballroom.  You would stop asking such stupid questions if you would take a few minutes and review the architectural plans and renderings that are online in various publications.  (The local Palm Beach newspaper has a nice article comparing the proposed white house ballroom to Trump's Mar-a-Lago ballroom.)  Google is your friend.

I don't give a rat's ass about how it resembles Mar-a-Largo. Who is he suppose to impress? Kim jung Un, Putin, Xi Jinping, George Santos, and CDL? What I object to is the lack of permitting and historical oversight. After all, he doesn't own the White House. He's loaned a residence, while he's under the people's employment, i.e. he's not a king - really. It's no different than the president of a university being afforded an official residence during his tenure, but he simply can't renovate/rebuild it of his own accord, because he doesn't own the property.

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The  Times writes: "White House is demolishing the entirety of the East Wing to make way for President Trump’s $200 million ballroom, a construction project that is far more extensive than he initially let on, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.

The ladies at The View seem to be really upset by this.

They don't care that a historical building is being partly destroyed without any oversight whatsoever.
You hacks are fully in the thrall of a sociopath.

The White House has been renovated many times throughout its history. I’m sure future presidents will be appreciative of Trump’s renovations when they are hosting state dinners.

It is grotesquely large and completely out of scale with the White House itself. I hope a future Democratic President knocks it down and Trump is forced to watch.

physical therapy/exercise room, Truman added on a balcony, which certainly changed the appearance of the WH, Nixon added a bowling alley, Ford added a swimming pool, which is still on the grounds, and Obama converted a tennis court to a basketball court because he was black (it's a joke, haters.  Yes, I have heard of the Williams sisters).  The one thing they all had in common is that no taxpayer money was used, which is exactly the way Trump's renovation will be, as well.  Wealthy donors have long supported White House renovations wanted by presidents.  Trump's will just be bigger and better than what any of his predecessors did.

What about that, CDL? You're the self-proclaimed renovation expert who knows all about construction and remodeling, and supposedly reviewed the architectural plans. How is it you weren't able to discern that the entire East Wing would need to be demolished, i.e. it wasn't going act as a segue into the $300 million ballroom? Was it because you couldn't believe Trump would lie to the American public?

Loser falls back on his tired trick of doctoring other people's posts.
What a fucking...you guessed it...LOSER.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ballroom-cost-east-wing-demolition-b2850565.html

Go beg, borrow or steal some game. Your weakness is showing.

All LOSER is is a troll, because that's all he is capable of. He makes fake posts and throws out insults. I don't respond to him anymore. It would be just a waste of my time and TER's bandwidth.

he heard that our Village Idiot was given the heave-ho and was afraid the Board's IQ might go up. If so, in that he has succeeded.

The WH renovation was projected to cost 200M, then it went to 250M and now its projected to go as high as 300M. Seems like there's some heavy Jimmy Hoffa kick backs shit going on here. Or maybe trump's pinching his own donors?? Jus sayin
And this brings me back to when Trump was looking for a reason to ax Fed Chair Powell, trump sighted the renovation's cost has soared from $1.9 billion to $2.5 billion.
And it makes me wonder

CDL: "Truman added on a balcony, which certainly changed the appearance of the WH"
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Balcony for photos of the WH (a) before (b) before with awnings in place and (c) after the balcony was added.
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"... Once the balcony was completed, several of those who had opposed the project wrote to the President acknowledging that the balcony had in fact improved the south face of the Residence. ..."

"... Once the balcony was completed, several of those who had opposed the project wrote to the President acknowledging that the balcony had in fact improved the south face of the Residence. ..."

Democrats should wait "until they see the finished project" before getting upset? This is ridiculous on two levels.
First, when we have "the finished product" it will be TOO LATE to do anything about it.
That's why we have processes and institutions to vet projects like this, which Trump has completely bypassed.
Second we already know quite a bit about what it will look like. Apparently you have failed to read my earlier post which had an attachment showing a model of what this excrescence will look like. It's FAR bigger than the White House itself and is actually grotesque. So there's more than enough to go on to become enraged with what Trump is doing.

And that is Trump LIED to the public about his intention to preserve, as much as possible, the East Wing, since he claimed he was aware of its historical significance. He even once declared that only four windows in the East Wing need to be removed to allow for a passage way to the "big, beautiful ballroom". I'm not aware of any of the other Presidents lying or intentionally misleading the public about his intentions. It allowed for public criticism, which is to be expected as with any construction/modification project. In Trump's case, the public was denied that opportunity, because Trump didn't give a rat's ass about what the public thought about his vanity project even though they owned property.  

Doesn't know how to work with architects or construction companies?  Would you feel better if some unelected bureaucrat from the swamp stamped something on the plans that shows it was also approved by some GS11 cubicle guy?  

I think he's trying to kick up enough dust to people won't see what's going on. What he can't conceal is...
1) This has zero to do with Trump's ability to "work with architects or construction companies." It's about the rule of law as it applies to historic, publicly-owned national treasures. And, yes, I would feel better if the legally-appointed bureaucrats were allowed to do their jobs. Question: have you even looked at the model of this thing? It's hideous.
2) Don't throw up questions about who approved other, far more minor projects, most of which were smaller, indoor renovations or re-purposings of pre-existing space. Go look up the answers to your own questions and stop diverting.
3) Also stop diverting about Obama's library. Do I really need to point out it has nothing to do with demolishing a national landmark?
CDL is so transparent I can read a newspaper through him.

Quoting . . .
Two historic magnolia trees originally dating to the 1940s -- designated as commemorative trees for Presidents Warren G. Harding and Franklin D. Roosevelt -- appear to have been removed during the construction.
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A magnolia tree commemorating Harding was originally planted by first lady Florence Harding in 1922 northeast of the entrance to the original 1902 East Wing, according to the National Park Service. The tree was replanted in 1947 and later re-designated as a commemorative tree in the 1950s, according to the park service.
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The Roosevelt tree was originally planted in 1942 southeast of the entrance to the newly constructed East Wing, according to the park service. The tree was designated as a commemorative tree in the mid-1950s.
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The White House did not respond for a request for comment about the removal of the trees.  
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/historic-magnolia-trees-kennedy-garden-removed-east-wing/story?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&id=126822108

....It's an inanimate object and just sits there being a structure.  Hey, you wrote it...not me.  That's the game we're playing now though I guess.  Several of you lib/prog/Marxist idiots are ignoring what is being said and screaming to the clouds about how it was said, lol in some sophomoric game of grammar gotcha.  

"The White House is the official residence and workplace of the U.S. President and their family, located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C.. It is also the center of the U.S. executive branch, housing the offices of the President and their staff. Beyond its political function, the building serves as a living museum of American history and a symbol of the American people." - Gemini AI

You didn't need to prove my point.  Everyone know the white house is....a house.

You IGNORE the fact that every other President has sought and obtained approval of their requested renovations from the legally required commissions, etc., and gave consideration to the committee requests.  Some of the articles I cited included the costs of some of the renovations / remodelings. Turning a basketball court back into the pre-existing tennis court in the same or better condition would be an easily achieved and low-cost endeavor. How are you going to reverse the Ballroom construction and restore the East Wing and the lawn?
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This thread needs to be further updated with Trump's latest cost estimate of $350 M.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSmrLpeJSMo
As prices soar and workers go upaid, "Let them eat cake."
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It has also been reported that the bomb shelter underneath the East Wing is going to be remodele0d.  
https://forward.com/fast-forward/778675/white-house-east-wing-demolition-trump-fdr-bomb-shelter
"... Koch said while she supports building improved entertainment spaces at the White House, how the Trump administration went about the demolition was “distressing” as a historian. “It really demanded consultation, discussion and assurances for everybody that it would be done in the most sensitive possible way, respecting the building,” Koch said. “It is sad to see the outright destruction of it, rather than taking a thoughtful approach to replacing it.” "
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I know from personal experience with other (smaller) historical renovations that historians given ample notice to go in and photograph and catalog the structure prior to demolition. They like to salvage relevant interior and exterior portions of the structure for display or archives and for future generations to acess.  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower#Incidents
When Trump tore down Bonwit Teller to make room for Trump Tower (5th Ave, NYC), he agreed to donate the famous Art Deco parts of the facade to the Metropolitan Museum of Art (the Met would pay the cost to transport them).  After yanking their chain for many weeks, ***Trump ordered the Art Deco sculptures and grille DESTROYED***: "Trump later acknowledged he had personally ordered the destruction of the sculptures and grille. Trump said these "so-called Art Deco sculptures, which were garbage by the way," had been informally appraised by three different individuals [unverified] as "not valuable," and they had pegged the sculptures' value at $4,000 to $5,000. He also told the media that carefully removing the sculptures would have cost him an extra $500,000 and would have delayed his project. In a New York Magazine article in November 1980, Trump said the decor of his Grand Hyatt New York included "real art, not like the junk I destroyed at Bonwit Teller." " [There is contradictory testimony about Trump's CLAIMS about costs and delays and valuations. $500,000 in 1980 is approx $2 M in 2025. The sculptures and grille were ALREADY REMOVED on April 16, 1980! The Met was prepared to retrieve the pieces. But Trump ordered them destroyed. I'm not going to read all of the source articles but my recollection is that Trump ordered them to be JACKHAMMERED and smashed on site. I.e., Trump was and is dirty fucking liar.] This is the guy that CDL thinks paid for renovating Wollman Rink out of his own pocket! (A Trump Lie / Trump myth! NYC paid!)
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Some skeptics have expressed the opinion that a remodeled bomb shelter will be used as a staging ground for Trump trying to remain in power after expiration of his term.

People who have worked with and for Trump know that Trump does not know how to work with architects and construction companies. PROFESSIONALS working for Trump dealt with the PROFESSIONALS on the construction side. Barbara Res has said that Trump doesn't know anything about construction and he just tells people to do stuff. Then, they go away and do their PROFESSIONAL construction jobs. She said that although he didn't learn anything about construction (others have said that Trump is too stupid to learn anything), he started to learn to listen to the experts that he hired. She also said that, as POTUS, he no longer hires "the best" and he just surrounds himself with yes-men. She also said that Trump is a racist and he instructed her to keep blacks out of sight on the construction projects: "I don't want people to think that the buildings are being built by black people." Trump spoke disparagingly and sexually about women. And on and on ...
http://www.c-span.org/program/washington-journal/barbara-res-on-tower-of-lies/586867
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Res has said the Trump would sit around his office picking out fancy chandeliers and choosing fabric swatches for the casino and hotel furniture. THAT was Trump's BIG contribution to the construction projects. Any kid with Legos or woodblocks or Lincoln Logs probably knows more about construction technicalities than Trump.
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Others have commented on Trump's lack of knowledge and actual STUPIDITY when it comes to architecture and construction. Trump insisted on architectural design of his casinos that experts told him would lead to failure. Trump ordered projects (casinos, Park Plaza, and MANY other projects) to be built HIS way; his casinos FAILED for the very reasons the architects and designers warned him about! He overbuilt and overborrowed and declared bankruptcy six times ... because he is a such a brilliant businessman who knows architecture and construction?????
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Barbara Res wrote "Tower of Lies: What My 18 Years of Working with Donald Trump Reveals About Him" about Trump and his fraud-show. Others have added to the book list.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/similar/63063236-101-indisputable-facts-proving-donald-trump-is-an-idiot-a-brief-backgro

"Donald Trump Flew In His 'Gold Guy' to Give the White House a Mar-a-Lago Makeover"
http://people.com/donald-trump-flew-in-gold-guy-white-house-makeover-11718960

...show how tasteless and classless Trump is...just like his New York apartment:

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to oranges you are likely to ALWAYS be wondering about what is going on.  

They have raised $1 billion.  The library will cost $850 million.
COEUR-DE-LION is a liar.

...in a Star Wars movie.  Futuristic and Fugly.  

...and getting thru the process than you think.

I don't think so...I KNOW SO!!!

Can't Do Links. Can Do Lies.