Liberals are so self important that whatever is happening to them right now is always "the worst" or "the biggest" whatever.  

The tens of thousands of American deaths in prior wars have zero meaning to you. 3,500 deaths is now the biggest disaster in the history of big disasters.  Iraq is officially "Custer's Last Stand" to you.  The civillization is ending as you cry in cowardly hysterics (but secretly hoping for more deaths).  Ironically, you also downplay or ignore things that go against your beliefs.  The millions that were slaughtered in Southeast Asia due directly to the pullout in Vietnam is ignored by you.  The millions that will be killed in Iraq if we leave early mean nothing to you.  But you cry your little eyes out about Darfur, Somalia, and Kosovo. A genocide is a genocide only if George Clooney speaks out against it. The millions that have died from Malaria due to banning DDT also is irellevant.

The avg. temp was down a couple of degrees in the 70s and the world was freezing and WE WERE ALL GOING TO DIE.  Now it's up a couple of degrees AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE.  

You little bitches bore me.

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Regarding the slaughter in So Asia, I assume you are referring to the Killing Fields in Cambodia which happened under the rule of the Khmer Rouge which was supported by the U.S. If you wanna blame someone, it could easily be argued that it was actually the presence of U.S. involvement in Asia that helped it happen as a result of economic and military support to the Khmer Rouge! And, it was actually stopped by the communists from Vietnam.

So stop trying to revise history and say it happened because we left -- it happened because we went to begin with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_Fields

Oh, and lets see, what are you guys lying about now? What reason are we on now for this stupid war in Iraq? Are you saying it is now to stop a genocide that is happening due to our very presence in the first place?

And you guys wonder why we think you are not so smart?

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wrong.

So you say, "tens of thousands of Americans" died in earlier wars, who cares about a few more?

Well I FUCKING care!!  They're MY people, and I'm sick and FUCKING TIRED of DRAFT-DODGING ASSHOLES sending MY FRIENDS out into a fucking kill zone before they think WTF they're doing.

So you go to war with the Army you have, when you had a 2 year run-up to war, and picked the time and place you wanted.

We can't prevent every 3rd world death, or maybe even none.  But we can make sure our people don't die in vain.

I'm tired of your little boy chest-thumping from a safe place across the ocean.  Sign up or shut up, little bitch.

They are all a bunch of wing-bag COWARDS!

Hey, rightees: Put up or shut up! You go fight this stupid war since you think it is so great!

because we had faith in the program.  Vietnam was a mistake, but shit happens.  

Iraq isn't a mistake.  The Republicans knew it was going to be an unnecessary diversion and clusterfuck when they went in.  They talk about *us* supporting the troops because they know *they* sure aren't gonna do it.

Men sign up to protect their country.  They don't sign up to be fucked in the ass by mendacious leaders.  

I cannot look my son in the eye and tell him that it's a good thing for him to sign up, as people did before him.  I could accept his loss if I thought it would do the country any good; but I would never forgive myself if I lost him to this.  And this is what pisses me now, thinking of the men I served with being sold down the river by these assholes.

was the last president to invade Iraq - his dad.  Something tells me that this immitation of a man pays lip service to respect.  He neither respects his elder (his dad), his country nor the sacrifice made by our military.

His presidency will be the first failed presidency in the 21st century.  And much as Jimmy Carter - I predict that he will become a bitter scorned, and hateful shell of a human.

2 down, 1 to go.  and he's still a serving President.  At least JEC waited until he was an ex-President.

That statement was so moronic on so many levels.  If you had any intelligence you would be so ashamed of yourself and your ramblings. Your truly insane satatemnt could be "easily argued" only by a functioning retard.  Run Forest...Run!

I consider liberals to be self righterous, knee jerk reactionaries.  You're just a walking embarrassment.  Is there any murderous regime that the USA is not responsible for causing in that vast intellect of your's?  We even start the communist ones now?  

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considering it comes from a fucking illiterate

When did you start losing your sense of reality? When did you get the weak knees? do you ever think you might  be better off without the meds?

my 1st responsibility was using my head to keep my people from getting killed unnecessarily.

Neither you nor the Republicans have figured that out, because you're all a bunch of pansy-assed draft dodgers who cheer for other people to do the bleeding.  

A social clue, quad: those are fighting words.  Don't be saying anything like that to my face.

http://webb.senate.gov/jim/

Because we're coming from the same place.

WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU???!!!!

Oughta send you hunting with Deadeye Dick Cheney, so you learn what rounds over your head sounds like.

most did not survive. 250,000 were executed and another 250,000 were sent to reeducation camps.

I've had rounds over my head you fat little dip shit ..I"ve had the barrel right between my eyes but the dumb ass didn't pull in time / Why you got to go on and on and on about the shit.. You living in some kind of fairy tale where you pat your own self every night ? Are you so stupid to think that you are and your hatched  again lib friends are the only people who have served? Sure I got lib friends who are ex but plenty of Right wing MotherFuckers who served and are still serving don't give a shit about your little sloppy mouth punk talk!! So you served and got out and now  you  talk shitty about Military being dumb for joining. Thems fighting words you fucking loud mouth sissie!Fuck you Jacko..Take another pill Jackass

easier to hold your aim when you aren't shaking with rage.

ROFLMAO.. I sure ain't a shaking and I definitely am not raging.. I'm going on vacation in the morning. Got to give the big little guy  some of his own medicine .. I figure he is going to spout off about 40 posts at me when I am not here cuz thats the way he is....Just making sure he knows what I think of his tasteless bull shit before I go .. He is nothing but a shell of what he "thought" he was.. And FUCK OFF anyone that belittles our Military. If you think I am worried about that punk and his weapons you are sadly mistaken and I am not doing no shaking..And I never pack anymore unless its lunch or clothes .  

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figuring out we couldn't change it.

Just as in Iraq, we couldn't figure out a militarily acheivable goal (up the hill, down the hill, back again); and we couldn't figure out why the locals didn't like us enough to tell us what was going on.  

We never lost a battle.  We lost the war because of the failure of politicians to connect goals with the military means.

The politicians lost it because they couldn't see what was going on.  

In Iraq, there are enough people who see what's going on.  The State and Defense Dept is full of them.   The GOP is pimping America out.

you're so fucking stupid, you can't figure out that you - don't - know - me.  

what I've said.

And of course the story sounds very likely.  Very likely to have been lifted from a John Wayne outtake.

Well, you could be fucking illiterate - but I think you know enough to be responsible for your actions.   I think you're just an incredibly dumb fuck with the usual Republican reading comprehension problems.

Let's try this:  what was your MOS?

and see where you're coming from.  I'm just used to assuming that everybody on a computer has a more or less conventional education.

Just don't blow smoke, OK?   Don't bluff.  Don't mistake what you think, for what you saw.   You should wind up embarrassed, but it looks to me like you're so used to it, it doesn't even register.

Read every line of a post, all the way thru to the end.  Don't assume the title is the bottom line.  BE sure you understand how the ideas in each sentence work together.

Some of us here are pretty sarcastic, and I'm one of the worst.  That's sort of like a mental ambush - looks like one thing, really means another.  It's called irony.  It's the way overeducated people get their rocks off.   Just don't be thinking that every overeducated person is a wuss, or never learned to throw fists, because you'd be wrong.

We aren't gonna get along because I don't like blowhards, even if they're compensating, and you don't trust people who came up thru the system.  I'm sure you've done pretty well by following directions, but you have to understand I've always been hired to think for myself and others too.   That's just the way it is.  To each his own.

So take your vacation.  Nobody's gonna talk behind your back.

Strawman fallacy first: that were whining about what are comparatively small casualties.  No, we're seeing lives being thrown at a strategy that can't succeed.  "Mission accomplished" was the strategy, remember?  Knock down Saddam and Iraq will blossom into a Democracy.  We accomplished our strategic objective.  What we couldn't accomplish was the political results.  

If we lose as many people as we did in the civil war, we could accomplish the complete de-population of Iraq and Iran and then openly colonize it.  Since that's not what we want to do, at least openly, we're stuck throwing lives away a dozen at a time waiting for the right political results.    

Another strawman with a false comparison: for liberals Iraq is like Custer's last stand?  Custer's last stand was a mere skirmish.  Iraq is a calamity.  

The millions who were slaughtered in SE Asia due to liberal policy: the same thing would have happened in 1954 if it weren't for us.  We bought them 20 years to either get themselves together or get out of Vietnam.  We bought them that time at a high price, and it was certainly better than what was done after WW2, which was to repatriate people who fought the Nazis right into the maw of Stalin's Gulags.  

The dirty little story about the end of Vietnam is that conservatives were just as relieved it was over as anybody.  

About DDT being banned, if it were a mistake, conservatives would have gotten it unbanned long ago.  You conservatives love to make it a political point, but none have ever tried to lift the ban.  Why?  Because once you even glance at the facts, they don't support lifting the ban.  So, occasionally, conservatives will call this genocide.  Reconsider the ban on DDT can go nowhere.  The stuff is too harmful for everything.

Given the pace of the killing in Iraq, it's difficult to say if more would be killed if we go.  It could be that bad.  The evil of Bush's policy is that anyone would find it difficult to leave Iraq.  So, we're left their throwing lives away trying to come up with something better.

The problem with Iraq as well as Vietnam is that we don't have a real ally of any stature running the country: our war has to create one.  Set up somebody and hope they could handle it.