Politics and Religion

“In sleep a king, but in waking no such matter”
Snowman39 1944 reads
posted
1 / 15

Since everyone seemed to lack the courage in the last thread to challenge the facts of the story and just attack the source (an old and discredited liberal trick, just ask all those involved in the Lewinsky story).

Here is the story, there is a photo. If you can prove it is fake, by all means post. If you can justify Pier's blatant hypocrisy, by all means post. However, if the best you can do is attack the source, do us all a favor and STFU and move on....
 
It's the classic "do what I say, not as I do" hypocrisy seen in so many other Establishment Mockingbirds who demand that all citizens deserve to be disarmed, at the same moment they are packing serious heat.  The list is massive:  
 
1.  Michael Moore, the hygiene-challenged, gun-grabbing director of the propaganda flick, "Bowling for Columbine," who has repeatedly called for citizen disarmament while being personally protected by a detail of armed-goons.  
 
2.  Mayor Michael Bloomberg who has been behind a new wave of persecution of gun-owners in New York, is protected by taxpayer-funded armed goons and a concealed-carry permit.  
 
3.  Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), also has a detail of armed private security as well as a nearly-impossible-to-obtain-at-any-price NY concealed-carry permit.  
 
Now, there's that piece of putrid English Redcoat, Torry Dog Snot known as Piers Morgan; who regularly uses his bully CNN pulpit to tout the complete disarmament of American citizens. Some enterprising reporter went out to his home and found that he is a client of a "home protection system" that guarantees "fully-armed response" to any and all those cowans and interlopers who may linger too closely on Morgan's property line.  
 
It would seem that Morgan is a pea from the same pod with the rest of the anti-constitutional collaborator brethren, they make damn sure that first their asses are well-covered and that their needs are taken care of, and it's "to hell with the little people," "let 'em die," or "go buy a watchdog."  

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 356 reads
posted
2 / 15

...can someone give me a direct link to the picture, because I'm not seeing it.

marikod 1 Reviews 390 reads
posted
3 / 15

hypocritical about that sign or Mr. Morgan's using an armed security firm - and made absolutely no comment about the source of the article which I agree with you is irrelevant to the hypocrisy issue raised by the OP.

      There is no hypocrisy here bc Mr. Morgan has never said that private security guards should be unarmed, because these armed security guards are in fact "veteran police officers" with proper carry permits and bonds, and they are not armed with assault rifles or machine guns but with the same handgun as that used by local LE.

       Significantly, the OP for once was so at loss for words of rebuttal that he did not attempt to rebut any pf these points other than to assert that I put too much weight on their having a license. OK fair enough but that does not rebut the bottom line that these are highly trained off-duty veteran police officers who do no more than secure the premises, detain any suspect, and call the police. This is not the rampant and dangerous gun use of which Mr. Morgan to his credit has objected.

mattradd 40 Reviews 355 reads
posted
4 / 15

Not fruitful to resurrect a highjacked post! Chinese saying? Well, nope! I just made that up. However, it's quite obvious that I did, and no less obvious than the statement.   ;)

-- Modified on 4/9/2013 9:47:29 AM

mattradd 40 Reviews 358 reads
posted
5 / 15

Hell, not just the Huffpo; the whole "Lamestream Media."   ;)

marikod 1 Reviews 287 reads
posted
6 / 15

Let’s see if the facts –remember the facts? – will wake you and Snowman from your slumber.

        You find Mr. Morgan’s use of an armed security service hypocritical bc, in your somnolescent view, Mr. Morgan purportedly believes “no one in America should be allowed to OWN firearms either."  

       The only problem with your argument is - he’s never said that and in fact that view is contrary to his published statements.

       Mr. Morgan recently summarized his gun control positions as follows. Raise your hand when he gets to the part about “no one in America should be allowed to own firearms" (what? you say your hand is um… “busy?” please not now):

 
“My argument with guns is not based on some universal, pathological hatred of them. ..

Nor do I have a problem with those who use guns for hunting or for sport. I also understand, and respect, how there is an inherent national belief in America, based on their understanding of the 2nd Amendment, that everyone should be allowed to have a gun at home for the purposes of self-defence.

But where I have a big problem is when the unfortunately ambiguous wording of the 2nd Amendment is twisted to mean that anyone in America can have any firearm they want, however powerful, and in whatever quantity they want.


Yet I can saunter into Walmart – America’s version of Tesco – and help myself to an armful of AR-15 assault rifles and magazines that can carry up to 100 bullets at a time.

That weapon has now been used in the last four mass shootings in America – at the Aurora cinema, a shopping mall in Oregon, Sandy Hook school, and the most recent, a dreadful attack on firemen in New York.

The AR-15 looks and behaves like a military weapon and should be confined to the military and police force. No member of the public has any need for a death machine that can fire up to six rounds a second when modified and can clear a 100-bullet magazine (as used in Aurora) within a minute.

 

So Morgan does not seek a ban on gun ownership at all. He acknowledges guns can be used for sport or hunting and even in the home for purposes of self defense. It is only the assault rifles and similar powerful weapons that he would ban. I agree with him wholeheartedly, although in fact it is I who would further adopt the view that  “no one in America should be allowed to OWN firearms either."  

 

 
Posted By: meinarsche
Ah mari, you managed to put the spin on both my OP and my response to the pointless Red Herring which you proffered as proof of Morgan's non-hypocrisy (if that is even a word). A "loss for words?"  Not is this universe.  
   
 So, here we go again.      
   
 Mr. Morgan's main objection has never been "rampant and dangerous gun use."  I haven't spent an overly large amount of my time watching his pasty face on TV, but whenever he opens his talk-hole on the subject of gun control, his main thesis seems to be something on the line of, "there's a total ban on gun ownership in Old Blighty and we enjoy a trouble-free existence as a result, therefore no one in America should be allowed to OWN firearms either."  
   
 As you probably know, Morgan is a fugitive from British law, living here in a place that kicked King George's limey ass back to Plymouth about 246 years ago.  As a foreigner, Morgan is the last person who has a right to come here and attempt to undermine the Constitution by lecturing Americans about the evils of the 2nd Amendment, especially given the disastrous results achieved by Britain's firearms ban has had.  
   
 It is doubtful that Morgan's hired goons would have access to ownership of  "the same handgun as that used by local LE," in the world he suggests where The State and their designates enjoy a coercive monopoly on the right to keep and bear arms.  As such, Morgan (by his use of armed guards to provide his "security") now enjoys the uniquely American freedom to protect himself and his family as well as the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness that the 2nd Amendment helps to guarantee. A right, which he would like to see denied to the rest of us.  The 2nd amendment isn't there to equip duck hunters and security guards.  
   
 Accordingly, Morgan is both a liar and a hypocrite indulging in sedition against the Constitution who deserves to be deported back to England.    
   
 This is the way that nitwits like Piers Morgan should be spoken to!  
   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWQPZ-taYBs

Panthera12 393 reads
posted
7 / 15

was one of my favorites in my pre mane days.

Yes, Laffy's right/left schtick is old and tiresome just like trannyboy's copy and paste adventures.

Panthera12 270 reads
posted
8 / 15

But Obama is the worst president in history, hands down. Even you know that. You just don't want to admit it.

GaGambler 363 reads
posted
9 / 15

I think all by itself, it also makes you a hyper partisan righty and a racist to boot, at least according to Daffy,

but Daffy's a moron, so who gives a fuck?

mattradd 40 Reviews 356 reads
posted
10 / 15
Panthera12 277 reads
posted
11 / 15

How can a President be ranked 15th when he has helped to further destroy the economy and thwarts the constitution at every turn? He is the most hated president in our time. He is a divider and liar.  

We also know how skewed and biased these polls can be when they are loaded with liberals.

Sorry, but that poll is a joke. When you get some time, look at the comments. From what I read you are in the minority if you believe that poll.

Snowman39 393 reads
posted
12 / 15

so you believe in special rights for those who can afford it...

Where the HELL do you work to get that kind of mentality, K street????

Snowman39 375 reads
posted
13 / 15

Still so bitter at the world, poor little Laffy...

Perhaps you don't get it. Let me draw it out in crayon for you.  

the problem is if your ONLY argument is to attack the source. If you want to dispute and proves someone wrong AND THEN say, btw, the source you are using not reliable, that's fine.

But if the ONLY argument you can make is to attack the source, then a big care of STFU is in order...

You know, like so many of your posts :-)

Panthera12 357 reads
posted
14 / 15

I took GaG's advice and started to ignore the retard and he begged on each of my posts last night.
I can envision him throwing a temper tantrum at his keyboard with a nee nee required to calm himself down.

Please send him that box of crayons.

mattradd 40 Reviews 474 reads
posted
15 / 15
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