He said some stupid things about Obama.  Well, that ends his run.  Oh the hypocricy!  If any republican had said that, democraps and the media would be demanding he resign from the senate. ie  Contrast what's happening to Biden to what happened to Trent Lott---  night and day!!

Oh the hypocricy.

from the Senate for what he said. It is total hypocrisy that Trent Lott had to resign from the Senate for reminiscing about the good ol' days of Jim Crow...Oh wait...did Trent Lott resign?

"In addition, Lott has been elected Senate Minority Whip, the No. 2 Republican leadership position in that chamber."

Never mind.

to help present facts and not postures... it would be really nice to see the press present just the facts.... This was only a stupid comment - much like Lott's and should NOT IMHO be getting the coverage it is.

Dyke Hillary?  John, "sue thy neighbor" Edwards?,  Al Gore, "I invented the internet"  blowhard extraordinaire  Gore ?  Al "Tawana didn't smear shit on herself" Sharpton?  Bi Polar Kerry?  No experience/ black Alfred E Neumann Obama ?

Biden's a winner by contrast!

You should probably listen to the audio first before passing judgment.

Biden pauses in the middle of his statement, making them two independent clauses.  The comma was left out of any transcript I've seen of the interview.  It was still a moronic thing to say, but not as moronic as it appears in print.

Of course, even before this gaffe Ben Dover had a better chance of winning the Democratic nomination than Joe Biden.

As for the media, the media's screaming about it.  Just like they screamed about Lott's moronic statement.  Where's the difference?

The poor sap was just trying to be nice, trying to think of some kind words, unprompted, for the 100th birthday of a man whose time and ideas had long passed [Strom Thurmond].

No love for Lott per se, but that really was a molehill turned into a mountain.

Seems the real argument should have been with Thurmond's beliefs [which he claims to have abandonded] not the hapless Lott.  Seem the ral argument might be whether the current GOP is the mutant bastard offspring of those ideas which animated Thurmond waaay back in 1948.

There's so much Lott stuff that's real and awful and of the moment.  How this got magnified to th point where it brought him low, it's crazy.

Oh well, water under the bridge.

kind of a pun there.   They're not going nuts over Biden's gaffe.  The press went nuts w/Trent's innocent statement at Strom's 100th birthday party.  His 100th birthday party!!!

Trent Lott was paying Strom a compliment at his 100th birthday party!  (did I say 100th birthday party)  All Lott said was "this country would have been better off if Strom had won the presidency"  

For the press to infer that that was a racist statement is a real slap in the face to Strom Thurmand.  

The democrats forgave Robert KKK Byrd.  He was a grand wizard.  I wonder how many blacks he lynched.

Oh the hypocrisy!  HAVE YOU FILTHY VERMON DEMOCRATS NO SHAME?!?!?!?!!!!  ans.  no

Just look at Kingfishrat Willie!!  I rest my case.

things wrong with it I hardly know where to start. First of all, Strom Thurmond ran solely on segregation. By default, anyone who wanted him to win was by definition a racist.

Second, Byrd has been reelected by voters just like Trent Lott. That is why both of them are in the Senate. The only difference is that Byrd was never Majority Leader or Whip unlike Lott.

Finally, while Byrd was in the klan I find nothing saying that he was Grand Wizard.

Back in your box, crazy man.

lots of people want segregation now!!!  Strom mellowed.  He was a good man.  

Unlike your KKK Byrd.  Good old KKK was a top-dog cross burner and the head recruiter!!!!  Byrd uses the "n" word on camera too.

He says he's seen lots of "white n*** as well as black n***"   He said that on camera.  

And, your Kingfishrat Willie called J.C. Watts a "dumbass n**." You democrap are the racist ones.
 
And Strom has a daughter that has a black mother.  He did not abandon her neither.

You've been reading too much "NY Post" & "Washington Times" I'm afraid...Papers like those (and several others) & news outlets like FOX Noise (this is their new name) will pollute the mind...

As far as the recent Biden statements, well, as they use to often say on Hawaii Five-O, "ain't no big thing bruddah"....

and the Al Gore Beetle.  More history revision by the pseudos.

...After all, had Lincoln not faught for their freedom, they'd still have to work to eat on the plantation, rather than sit around on the porch and wait for the welfare checks to come...

There, you needed to see a REAL racist statement so you'd have some standard of refrence, since you have a habit of labeling anything that you don't agree with as "racist" just to attempt a leg-up in your weak assed arguments!

segregation is racist. Most people who are not racist agree with me. I am not surprised that you don't.

Just because Byrd bats for your team, you negate his involvment, then lambast Strom. You suck!

was in the KKK. I do not live in that state and he is reelected regularly by his constituency--including the majority of black voters. Despite saying some dumb and prejudiced things he has repudiated his racist past and voted accordingly. He does not have a leadership position in the party. He's an old coot who should hang it up, but what are you gonna do?

Trent Lott was Majority Leader and is now Minority Whip. He has repudiated nothing and votes accordingly. I have never called for his resignation from the Senate.  Personally I have no problem with the Republicans putting him in a leadership position because that way people of color will know where the Republican Party stands.

Try not to be so stupid next time.

those comments because at the time Bush was trying to court minority voters. Since there is no chance of that happening anymore, Lott can come back now.

At least the Xtian Fundies with a sense of humor [both of 'em] might like that one.

Your "old coot" aka KKK Byrd just happens to be the king of pork.  Millions and millions of dollars wasted each year because of your "old coot."

KKK Byrd is the racist.  He's repudiated NOTHIN.

Your KKK Byrd still uses the "n" word on camera.
Your good old KKK "coot" calls people  he doesn't like "n*****s." and he does it on camera and gets a pass.  

Why don't YOU, Jeremy, take a look at their records.

And one more thing, Jeremy.  Trent Lott is the man who said no to YOUR MAN, Kingfishrat Willie from being Tried in the senate after being impeached in the house.  Lott thought it would be to taumatic on the country and that Kingfishrat Willie had been shamed enough.  Whow, was Lott ever mistaken on both counts.  Kingfishrat Willie has no shame and I beleve the country would have found out the truth- that your man,Kingfishrat Willie, is a scumball.

oh well.  The truth- You can't handle the truth.  And no gratitude for not trieing Willie in the senate.  You democrats----  I just don't know.

"gets a pass"? The Hannity/Rush brigade criticize him all the time. Neither Byrd nor Lott have resigned from the Senate. The only difference is that the Republicans chose Lott as a Senate Leader while the Democrats have not done the same for Byrd. You are the stupid ass who brought up Trent Lott. It really is not up to me to kick either of them out of the Senate so I do not understand what your point is.

WHY! Do republicans continue to extend grace to demo-scum, then act like a deer caught in the headlights when a dem fucks em over??

I wish the GOP would grow some balls and take every little thing about democrat-scandel to it's absolute bitter end!

Maybe then the Reps wouldn't have so much time on their hands to sit in bi-partison meetings and sell us down the river on EVERY fuckin bill they write!

He never used the word "invented", but he DID say that it was HIS "initiative that created the internet". Invent vs. create? Same difference.

So you are openly admitting that the left's tolerance for "right vs. wrong struggles" is guided solely (or at least in part) on their need for power or success in gaining power.

Gosh, I always thought those types of things were guided by morals.

be referred to as the left before. Then again, Ben thinks that the Nazis were commie pinkos so I am not surprised. Please tell me. If Bush is on the left, what could possibly be on the right?

you are a liar or just plain stupid. "Invented" would me that he was a computer programmer geek building and designing the infrastructure for the Internet. Sponsoring an "initiative" is what people in Congress do. He actually did sponsor the initiative that created the Internet so he was telling the truth. Then again I should not be surprised that you don't know what "truth" means either.

LONG BEFORE GORE.

point is since he never said that he "invented" it or "created" it. He sponsored the legislation that made it what it is. Again I have to ask if you are a liar or just stupid? Since you still have not learned what quotation marks mean, I have to lean toward you being stupid.

You are right on one thing, my slight misquote actually does not give him the same credit he gave himself.

His exact words were "...I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Keep on parsing it anyway you like, I predict it won't be long before you rationalize this into also labeling me as a racist.

stupid nor a liar like you, I would not call you a racist based on your post. Funny that you bring up parsing, though, since that is what this whole thing is about.

"Did Vice President Gore “invent the Internet?” Better yet: Did he say that he did? Here is what the VP said when he chatted with Wolf on March 9:
GORE: During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

And of course Gore did take the lead, within the Congress, in promoting and advancing the technical developments that have led to our now-beloved Net. Here’s what Internet guru Vinton Cerf told the Post’s John Schwartz:

SCHWARTZ: Vinton G. Cerf, a senior vice president at MCI Worldcom and the person most often called “the father of the Internet” for his part in designing the network’s common computer language, said in an e-mail interview yesterday, “I think it is very fair to say that the Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given it and related research areas by the vice president in his current role and in his earlier role as senator.”

"They're not going nuts over Biden's gaffe"

What channel are you watching?  There was virtually no political coverage over two days that did not include something on Biden's gaffe.

"The press went nuts w/Trent's innocent statement at Strom's 100th birthday party"

A) Trent's statement was not so innocent.  He was literally saying things would have been better if segregation was still around.  Perhaps Lott wasn't thinking about what Strom's platform was, but that's what makes it A GAFFE.

B) The setting for the gaffe is irrelevant.

"The democrats forgave Robert KKK Byrd.  He was a grand wizard.  I wonder how many blacks he lynched."

A) Byrd apologized.  He has since spoken out often against the KKK and similar groups.  He's been "forgiven" in as much as he now works against groups like the KKK.

B) Byrd was never a grand wizard.  The only ex-grand wizard in politics today is David Duke.

C) He lynched 0 blacks.  Or at least no one has brought forth any evidence.

That's just the top listing.  There are many more new articles listed underneath.  Yeah, the press is ignoring this all right.  

Care to explain how that shows they're poo pooing it?  The press is at least taking it seriously.  

If you say that they're all for Biden, I can also  list quotes from random articles chosen by dice.  I'd rather you test your honesty and do it yourself, though.  That's a hell of a lot of work to cure somebody of his ignorance.    



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he wasn't involved in its progress,

BUT GORE DID NOT CREATE THE INTERNET. Nor did any of his initiatives CREATE the internet. And Cerf did not say he created it.

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that you are not a serious person and the only thing that you are interested in is word games, semantics and parsing words. You live to take one sentence out of context and twist whatever meaning you want out of it. This is tiresome. If you read the whole section of the interview you know what he was saying. Obviously you only have the attention span of a four year old so you can only focus on 8 words. I guess that is why you support a president who is a retard.

you wish to make up your own selective definitions for words.

Words MEAN things, and you cannot change that.

But you are getting better at this. It took you slightly longer this time before the Ad Hominem pharses of stupidity came out. Keep practising at this and some day you will be able to go several day without calling someone an idiot and calling it debate.

Rove tactic of accusing your opponent of the very thing you are doing. You parse words and then accuse me of parsing just like they accused Kerry of being a coward when W was the coward.

I said that you were either stupid or a liar. Apparently you are offended by being called stupid. I guess we know what that makes you.

Thanks for the reminder.

your semantic games and obfuscations somewhere else. You should do what Rush does and just debate with people who already agree with you.