Meanwhile, the percentage of Americans who are in favor of complete repeal of HCR is 36%. Whoops, that's not right. That's how cold it is outside here in DC. Actually, those in favor of complete repeal is only...wait for it...18%.

To the House Republicans: Thank you for the red meat. See ya in 2012.

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HC repeal won't pass in the Senate, which means it won't pass, period. Snow, you should stop drinking your own type of Kool-aid-----

And I did say on a prior post that Obama has the veto power regardless, and it will become an issue for the courts to decide. As much as I hate our wasteful court system, it will be up to them.

BTW, I am glad that you are showing your computer literacy by uploading a photo. I can't say that I am proud of you, but I acknowledge that you exist. Are you happy now?

nor do I want to pay for the health care of the other 300+ million people in this country. There is no such thing as "free" health care, it just means the burden for your grandmother shifts to people like me. Your fucking welcome, now pay your own goddamned bills, and get your fucking hand out of my fucking wallet!!!

Just because someone believes in self reliance and is against socialism doesn't make one a "right winger", or does it? lol

These are the same assholes who think it's fair to tax a self employed person that is fortunate enough or works hard enough to earn a  million dollars, they think its fair to tax that person over $150,000.00 a year in payroll taxes alone, not to mention the federal, state and local taxes he already pays.

I'll use that description against "Pirogen",who comes across as malleable stupid punk who takes his moronic talking points stright from right-wing media.

As for HC reform, being self-employed & seeing my premiums rise steadily evey year ( particularly due to pre-existing conditions---I have high BP managed by meds----NEVER been hospitalized & have yearly checkups. Yet, my premiums go up every year. Not exactly fair. )Clearly SOMETHING had to be done about HC, but was "Obamacare" the way to go about it ? Time will tell.

On other topic--lately,  you seem to be unofficially functioning as right-leaning "board arbiter" & I'm doing same for the left. Somehow, I think we're both too biased for those unofficial positions------LOL !

Something does have to be done about HC costs, unfortunately nothing in Obamacare does anything to address spiraling costs, it simply shifts the burden. I realize that is popular with the masses who see it as "free health care", but those paying the bill see it for what it is.

I haven't spent more than a couple of grand on personal health care issues over the last three decades, but I still pay close to a hundred grand a year in premiums for my employees. So yes this effects me in the wallet big time.

yet those damn service stations keep raising the price of gasoline. That's unfair too, isn't it?

   The lesson is that your health care provider charges premiums based on the expected future cost of having that care available to you, if you need it. While we are delighted that you have not needed those services in the past, that is pretty much irrelevant to setting the price of future services for you.

    So there is nothing "unfair" about your premiums rising every year. And if they did shift to a business model where they looked at your past use solely to determine premiums, your premiums would still go up bc of the substantial cost of doing this for each individual customer.

and if enough of you board liberals get together she will not have a want in the world. Hell, you can make her car payment too while you are at it.

BTW, you are not officially or unofficially playing arbiter around here for any side but your own back-side.

and I also stated that nothing in Obama care addrressess spiraling health costs. Both of those points I stand behind.

The point about my lack of  medical expenses is that I should have the right to "self insure". I  have not had health insurance for most of the last thirty years, if I had incurred any health related costs they would have been my resonibility, and that should be my right.

The premiums I pay on the behalf of my employees is a different matter altogether, but as one of the people paying the bills, my voice should be at least as important as the parasites that keep reaching into my pocket for "free" health care.

Not only is "Iago" an ambulance chaser, but now he fancies himself to be an "actuary" What's that old saying ? Wanna-be jack of all trades, master of none?!"------

As for " Pirogen", I have it on good authority that he's living off his parent's $, so why should he give a shit about the heathcare costs of others ?-----

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Just pandering to the clueless few (18%).

"Looks like "Pirogen" & "Iago" are obsessed about me"



The only person that is obsessed about you is yourself.

A healthcare plan that will never see the light of day will also never be repealed in the Senate.  Just two agendas with no representation.

My grandma got $250 when her annual drug cost exceeded.    Never got any help before.   Also, this year she will paying 50% less for some of her drugs after she exceeds her annual benefit.    Without this, she will not only be paying monthly premium to the insurance company but also pay an average of $160 per drug for a 30 day supply.

I'm sure there are thousands and thousands like her in the country.   Why would someone repeal this?

As a child. He was kidnapped as a child and it was caught on tape.

It didn't come from the Huffington Post, but ABC News. By the way, the popularity of HCR repeal has fallen even among Republicans and conservatives from 61% in November to 49% today.

Passing the Repeal was the #1 item on the platform they ran on, and they kicked Liberal Ass!!!

Your 18% number is so friggin wrong it is scary. My guess is the Huffington post asked a question like "Is there ANY part of the Health care bill you would like to keep"

Come on buddy, you are smarter than that, stop drinking the kool-aid...

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Too late to vote Republican, or at least give up your liberal ways.
There is more to life then collecting cans and bottles and the life of a squeegee man.
We are all here to help you, lmao.

Clearly "Pirogen" is a neer-do-well BUM-------

"Could you break down how someone who makes 1 million dollars pays $150,00 in payroll taxes?"

Depends on the accountant. I  made 322,000.00 last year, my Fed tax was 107,000.00
My accountant keeps telling me I need more deductions.
Damn I say! They are deducting enough already.

nippleguy, that's amazing, considering that the majority of plans don't kick in until 2014. She get a waiver? If she's on Medicare, I'd have to say your full of shit, because I am, and that hasn't happened. Also, my private insurer doesn't have that drug coverage either. I think granny is pulling your leg.

should pay for? I don't like paying taxes but they are a fact of life. Once I pay the taxes I dont give a fuck what happens to the cash. I give as much to charities as I can so that the amount that I have to fork over to the IRS is minimized. What I hate most are sales taxes and property taxes. It is very hard to weasel out of paying them.

your first post comes up with 18%, your second post comes up with 49%.

All these numbers, and none consistent, what will your next post say, 112%

When I talked about kicking ass, I was referring to the elections and the fact that the repeal vote was the cornerstone of the platform they ran on....

I assumed you would be able to at least pick that up...

I over estimated you...

18% of the total populace want HCR completely repealed. In a separate poll that asked this question ONLY of self-identified conservatives, only 49% want it repealed.

You do know that not everyone is a conservative, right?

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Search the internet long enough and you can probably find some poll some where that backs your side.

Polls are only as good as the people who take them....

BTW, I am glad you came back on the board.